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		<title>By: notme</title>
		<link>/how-relakksed-is-relakks/#comment-467812</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@teimu
The &quot;nothing to hide&quot; argument is a fallacy.
Seeking privacy is not proof of any guilt.
If you have nothing to hide, would you mind an IRS audit every year?
There&#039;s a good, but rather heady essay on the subject at ssrn.com/abstract=998565]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@teimu<br />
The &#8220;nothing to hide&#8221; argument is a fallacy.<br />
Seeking privacy is not proof of any guilt.<br />
If you have nothing to hide, would you mind an IRS audit every year?<br />
There&#8217;s a good, but rather heady essay on the subject at ssrn.com/abstract=998565</p>
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		<title>By: teimu</title>
		<link>/how-relakksed-is-relakks/#comment-423665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[teimu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ralph said:
&quot;On the issue of how &#039;secure and anonymous&#039; is Relakks I think it reasonable to ask what do you mean and/or want from &#039;secure and anonymous&#039;? My own feeling is that I&#039;m not doing hellish much wrong.&quot;

Wait, so if what you&#039;re doing isn&#039;t &quot;hellish wrong&quot;, then what do you have to fear? Don&#039;t use Relakks then.

By using it, you admit compliance with the view that what you are doing is wrong and can get you into trouble.

Can&#039;t have your cake and eat it too man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph said:<br />
&#8220;On the issue of how &#8216;secure and anonymous&#8217; is Relakks I think it reasonable to ask what do you mean and/or want from &#8216;secure and anonymous&#8217;? My own feeling is that I&#8217;m not doing hellish much wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait, so if what you&#8217;re doing isn&#8217;t &#8220;hellish wrong&#8221;, then what do you have to fear? Don&#8217;t use Relakks then.</p>
<p>By using it, you admit compliance with the view that what you are doing is wrong and can get you into trouble.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t have your cake and eat it too man.</p>
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		<title>By: dane</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is something seriously wrong with PayPal, they are working on the problem. But it&#039;s a big technical solution that might take up to one month to accomplish. During the time you can always pay directly to our bank account. I will load your account for a week so you can use our service until your payment have arrived. 2008-06-25 15:57:51
 
IBAN: SE7712000000012210110645
SWIFT: DABASESX
 
Don&#039;t forget to put in your alias or UserID.
(It will take a couple of days before we get the paper form the bank that you paid, so please be patience.)
 
You can also pay directly to us 5â‚¬ (50SEK) one month 50â‚¬ (450SEK) one year. Send money to  
 
Martin Norneus 
Relakks
Winstrupsgatan 1
222 22 Lund 
Sweden
 
(don&#039;t forget to write your UserID or  alias so I can load you r account manually. This will take a few days for me to receive the payment).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something seriously wrong with PayPal, they are working on the problem. But it&#8217;s a big technical solution that might take up to one month to accomplish. During the time you can always pay directly to our bank account. I will load your account for a week so you can use our service until your payment have arrived. 2008-06-25 15:57:51</p>
<p>IBAN: SE7712000000012210110645<br />
SWIFT: DABASESX</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget to put in your alias or UserID.<br />
(It will take a couple of days before we get the paper form the bank that you paid, so please be patience.)</p>
<p>You can also pay directly to us 5â‚¬ (50SEK) one month 50â‚¬ (450SEK) one year. Send money to  </p>
<p>Martin Norneus<br />
Relakks<br />
Winstrupsgatan 1<br />
222 22 Lund<br />
Sweden</p>
<p>(don&#8217;t forget to write your UserID or  alias so I can load you r account manually. This will take a few days for me to receive the payment).</p>
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		<title>By: RelakksUser</title>
		<link>/how-relakksed-is-relakks/#comment-421767</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s a good sign if paypal barks! Why? Because it&#039;s a snooping company &amp; a legal entity in the US. Prob. HomeDept. wants access to relakks via paypal, but can&#039;t due to relakks refusal. So paypal takes revenge and cuts off relakks. Next step are the creditcards....all happened before --&gt; mp3.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a good sign if paypal barks! Why? Because it&#8217;s a snooping company &amp; a legal entity in the US. Prob. HomeDept. wants access to relakks via paypal, but can&#8217;t due to relakks refusal. So paypal takes revenge and cuts off relakks. Next step are the creditcards&#8230;.all happened before &#8211;&gt; mp3.com</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to say a few words in defence of Relakks:

Firstly, you can try it for free.  Go to the site now and just sign up for a free one month trial.  It&#039;s not difficult to do.  After you&#039;ve used the trial then decide from experience if it is worth it to you or not.

I have just finished a free trial and am now looking to subscribe (but can&#039;t because just now they are &#039;reviewing payment *methods*&#039; [my emphasis] notice on the website.  Nevertheless, because I didn&#039;t fully appreciate the value of subscribing and supplying a &#039;disposable email address&#039; at the time of my free trial, before trying to subscribe and make a month payment, I opened a new user account.  In doing that I got issued with another free trail - have it running now.  Have been back to Relakks site several times to pay but still can&#039;t do so.  My point is you can try it for free and see what you think.

On the issue of how &#039;secure and anonymous&#039; is Relakks I think it reasonable to ask what do you mean and/or want from &#039;secure and anonymous&#039;?  My own feeling is that I&#039;m not doing hellish much wrong.  Yup, I do P2P, it&#039;s the way the wind is blowing and a *great many* people participate and don&#039;t see it as fundamentally wrong.  But just how much security and anonymity do you need for that?  My own guess is not a great deal (at least so far).

I feel a lot more comfortable about doing P2P via Relakks than without it and I get that comfort at a fairly reasonable price.

Relakks has warts, yes, a few but nothing is perfect and it&#039;s a damn site better than just P2P-ing directly from your own ISP.

Give it a chance, it&#039;s a good move in the right direction.  In time I&#039;m sure some of the warts will be ironed out but suspect that some are pretty well inevitable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to say a few words in defence of Relakks:</p>
<p>Firstly, you can try it for free.  Go to the site now and just sign up for a free one month trial.  It&#8217;s not difficult to do.  After you&#8217;ve used the trial then decide from experience if it is worth it to you or not.</p>
<p>I have just finished a free trial and am now looking to subscribe (but can&#8217;t because just now they are &#8216;reviewing payment *methods*&#8217; [my emphasis] notice on the website.  Nevertheless, because I didn&#8217;t fully appreciate the value of subscribing and supplying a &#8216;disposable email address&#8217; at the time of my free trial, before trying to subscribe and make a month payment, I opened a new user account.  In doing that I got issued with another free trail &#8211; have it running now.  Have been back to Relakks site several times to pay but still can&#8217;t do so.  My point is you can try it for free and see what you think.</p>
<p>On the issue of how &#8216;secure and anonymous&#8217; is Relakks I think it reasonable to ask what do you mean and/or want from &#8216;secure and anonymous&#8217;?  My own feeling is that I&#8217;m not doing hellish much wrong.  Yup, I do P2P, it&#8217;s the way the wind is blowing and a *great many* people participate and don&#8217;t see it as fundamentally wrong.  But just how much security and anonymity do you need for that?  My own guess is not a great deal (at least so far).</p>
<p>I feel a lot more comfortable about doing P2P via Relakks than without it and I get that comfort at a fairly reasonable price.</p>
<p>Relakks has warts, yes, a few but nothing is perfect and it&#8217;s a damn site better than just P2P-ing directly from your own ISP.</p>
<p>Give it a chance, it&#8217;s a good move in the right direction.  In time I&#8217;m sure some of the warts will be ironed out but suspect that some are pretty well inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Lurch</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I signed up to Relakks about 4 months ago. I&#039;ve paid for only 2 months of service (somehow getting about 2 months free). Relakks works great. I have a firewall setup to force all torrent connections through Relakks.

Only complaint is now I am trying to renew my account, and it appears their billing system is being looked over (for the good or bad).

Relakks is good! Dont hate because your too retarded to figure out some simple login instructions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed up to Relakks about 4 months ago. I&#8217;ve paid for only 2 months of service (somehow getting about 2 months free). Relakks works great. I have a firewall setup to force all torrent connections through Relakks.</p>
<p>Only complaint is now I am trying to renew my account, and it appears their billing system is being looked over (for the good or bad).</p>
<p>Relakks is good! Dont hate because your too retarded to figure out some simple login instructions.</p>
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		<title>By: Relakks sucks</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Relakks sucks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried Relakks after reading this article. 

If you&#039;re thinking of doing the same, DON&#039;T!!

Relakks refuses to provide any support and you&#039;re likely to need it.

I have signed up for a Relakks account twice. Both times I ended up needing support as the result of a billing problem. 

The 2nd time I signed up for a 1 year account at a cost of $84 ($50 EUROS).

After paying (using Paypal), I was unable to login with the credentials they provided. I then noticed that when I logged into their webpage, it said that my account was &quot;inactive&quot; and my payment had &quot;expired&quot; even though there was a record that I had just paid $84 to set up the account.

I have emailed Relakks more than 3 times over the period of 2 weeks, each time waiting about 4 days for them to answer. No response.

The Relakks attitude about customer support is very apparent from their website: https://www.relakks.com/faq/qna/#6

They say they will NOT answer any emails that do not follow the exact guide defined on their website. If these people had any technical skills, they could create a support form on their website that could collect the information they want in the exact format they require, but no, they want you to put it into an email.

They also don&#039;t support OpenVPN, the standard and trusted open source VPN solution, and instead require that you use PPTP which isn&#039;t as secure.

Either way, it&#039;s a moot point for users like me who paid but never were able to login due to non-existant support from Relakks.

Oh, if you sign up for a 1 year account and fail to use it for a month, they shut off your account.

Also, they have trouble with any login/passwords that are not alphanumeric, but LET YOU choose  login/passwords that are NOT alphanumeric. How smart is that?

As a result, lots of users having problems with that issue as well.

Relakks sucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried Relakks after reading this article. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re thinking of doing the same, DON&#8217;T!!</p>
<p>Relakks refuses to provide any support and you&#8217;re likely to need it.</p>
<p>I have signed up for a Relakks account twice. Both times I ended up needing support as the result of a billing problem. </p>
<p>The 2nd time I signed up for a 1 year account at a cost of $84 ($50 EUROS).</p>
<p>After paying (using Paypal), I was unable to login with the credentials they provided. I then noticed that when I logged into their webpage, it said that my account was &#8220;inactive&#8221; and my payment had &#8220;expired&#8221; even though there was a record that I had just paid $84 to set up the account.</p>
<p>I have emailed Relakks more than 3 times over the period of 2 weeks, each time waiting about 4 days for them to answer. No response.</p>
<p>The Relakks attitude about customer support is very apparent from their website: <a href="https://www.relakks.com/faq/qna/#6" rel="nofollow">https://www.relakks.com/faq/qna/#6</a></p>
<p>They say they will NOT answer any emails that do not follow the exact guide defined on their website. If these people had any technical skills, they could create a support form on their website that could collect the information they want in the exact format they require, but no, they want you to put it into an email.</p>
<p>They also don&#8217;t support OpenVPN, the standard and trusted open source VPN solution, and instead require that you use PPTP which isn&#8217;t as secure.</p>
<p>Either way, it&#8217;s a moot point for users like me who paid but never were able to login due to non-existant support from Relakks.</p>
<p>Oh, if you sign up for a 1 year account and fail to use it for a month, they shut off your account.</p>
<p>Also, they have trouble with any login/passwords that are not alphanumeric, but LET YOU choose  login/passwords that are NOT alphanumeric. How smart is that?</p>
<p>As a result, lots of users having problems with that issue as well.</p>
<p>Relakks sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Karin A</title>
		<link>/how-relakksed-is-relakks/#comment-380442</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For everyone who wonder what Relakks is, or just want to know more... :

I saw a great interview with the owner and founder of Relakks, Jonas Birgersson. He is interviewed by Thomas Crampton and many interesting questions are answered.

Here is a link to the short interview:  http://light.vpod.tv/?s=0.0.201364]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone who wonder what Relakks is, or just want to know more&#8230; :</p>
<p>I saw a great interview with the owner and founder of Relakks, Jonas Birgersson. He is interviewed by Thomas Crampton and many interesting questions are answered.</p>
<p>Here is a link to the short interview:  <a href="http://light.vpod.tv/?s=0.0.201364" rel="nofollow">http://light.vpod.tv/?s=0.0.201364</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/how-relakksed-is-relakks/#comment-379855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I read, it seems that if they keep logs or through your credit card it seems possible for the MPAA or RIAA to nab you for file sharing.  What I question is whether or not they would bother dealing with Sweden considering they have millions of people sharing through US ISPs in which case they know they can file suits against people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I read, it seems that if they keep logs or through your credit card it seems possible for the MPAA or RIAA to nab you for file sharing.  What I question is whether or not they would bother dealing with Sweden considering they have millions of people sharing through US ISPs in which case they know they can file suits against people.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/how-relakksed-is-relakks/#comment-314387</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they are back-in-business...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they are back-in-business&#8230;</p>
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