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Hurt Locker Makers Sue 5000 BitTorrent Users

A few weeks ago the makers of the Oscar-winning movie Hurt Locker indicated that they would sue tens of thousands of U.S. BitTorrent users. In a classic ‘pay up or else’ scheme, the first 5,000 victims have now been officially reported to court. If ISPs cooperate these downloaders can expect a settlement request in their mailboxes soon.

Hoping to recoup some of their claimed losses, the makers of Hurt Locker have partnered with the very lucrative ‘pay up or else’ money making scheme of the U.S. Copyright Group. The goal of the scheme is to identify as many infringers as possible, and threaten them with ruinous court action. Of course, they will also be given the offer to settle for a relatively low amount of money.

The first step of the scheme has now been officially initiated as a complaint against 5,000 ‘unidentified’ BitTorrent users was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. If the court approves, the ISPs of the alleged infringers will be ordered to hand over the personal information of the users associated with the IP-addresses.

All infringers that are identified will then be kindly asked to settle the dispute, or face further legal action. In the UK these schemes have been highly criticized by the public, consumer organizations and politicians because of the intimidating tactics and lack of solid evidence.

In the U.S. this particular case has not gone unnoticed either and it generated many headlines before an official complaint was filed. Although the U.S. Copyright Group say that 75% of ISPs are cooperating, most of the bigger ISPs remain skeptical, with Time Warner publicly resisting U.S. Copyright Group’s demands.

The U.S. Copyright Group, on its turn, went on to accuse Time Warner of inducing copyright infringement because of the refusal to expose its users. The group claims that Time Warner’s refusal to cooperate is a publicity stunt to gain the favor of consumers concerned about their privacy.

Then again, the U.S. Copyright Group is not totally open about its intentions either. Although they say it is their intention to sue individuals who do not pay, in reality that eventuality is impossible to maintain on any scale. Their aim will be to scare as many people as possible into paying, perhaps backed up with legal action against a tiny minority to prove a point.

The real winner in this soap opera is in fact the U.S. Copyright Group. As we reported before, the ‘pay up or else’ scheme is not only lucrative for the rights holders, who get only 30 percent of the settlement money. The remaining 70 percent goes to the U.S Copyright Group and its anti-piracy partners.

Ca-Ching!

We encourage people who receive a settlement request to contact us, so we can look at the details and possibly assist in countering the threats of which many more are expected to be sent out in the months to come.

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  • VuzeBloat

    Good! Sue them all! Sue everyone with a internet connection!

  • Anonymous

    Shame on Voltage Pictures!

  • piratepal

    Bollox to ‘em – use a good vpn download it then give copies to everyone you know.

    PB forever

  • cvc

    How much are they being asked to pay?

  • Editor

    Step one:Get all together and sue random people.
    Step two:Sue each other.
    Step three:Humiliation.

  • bootytape.com

    I’m assuming there going to be suing for around 20 to 25 times the actual value of the hurt locker dvd. Which would mean there goal is to try to make over a million dollars.

    The problem now is 5,000 people showing lack of favor towards your company and brand. That in return could cost you way more than you’ll be getting from suing these people.

  • *D

    This is 100% extortion and scam.
    US courts allow a crime like that?

    Also, it’s sooo easy to insert random IP
    numbers in screenshots and then have mafia claim that they “infringed” their precious “copyright”

    And 1 IP doesn’t make it 1 user.
    Anyone with half a brain knows that.

  • Wanged

    Oh sure, next time you make a failed movie/book/game, claimed it failed due to piracy and sue the snot out of anyone with an internet connection.

  • Anonymous

    “copyright” is what the establishment are using to justify trying to bring in a filtered, monitored corporate internet. Its not really about the money on its higher levels, its about control, with the world essentially turning towards a one world goverment run police state. Just look at the digital copy right bill in the UK for one small example.

  • Mickey1

    You are a moron VuzeBloat. Not only is what you say stupid, you want yourself sued which is probably the dumbest thing anybody can every say. Do everyone a favor and download some brains

  • Anonymous

    I hope I get a letter, I need something to happen in my life other than sitting in front of a computer. Maybe sitting in front of a judge will get my heart pumping…

  • duane

    Let’s just all pop on Amazon and give The Hurt Locker a 1-star review, warning people to stay away from it!! :D

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  • hmm

    cool, can’t wait for my letter. need to test of my new shredder

  • Not so Innocent

    It’ won’t go that far. Chances are EFF will put it’s foot down. As well as a few others. US courts aren’t as lazed as others. If they see a bad thing going through the court. They normally handle it. It just sucks because this has violation of privacy written all over it. And look how easy they can receive 5,000 peoples private information. Over some ridiculous collection of IP’s.

    If I was a evil Attorney and wanted a few 100 peoples personal information on people I wanted to sue. I would use the method above. Even if they are innocent. I will still get what I needed to harass the victims.

  • Mogwai

    One thing I’m unclear on, is an IP address the only evidence needed to make a case?

    It seems to me that these extortionists are gambling on people becoming terrified when a letter arrives and thus paying whatever sum these rogues think appropriate.

    To my mind, these people have to prove that a ‘criminal’ act was committed. So, if people stood their ground, would they seriously start to pay for very expensive computer forensics, just to prove someone downloaded a movie.

    If it was one or two people sharing hundreds or thousands, maybe, but 5000 plus, for one movie…

    There again I could be totally wrong.

  • Anonymous

    The minute Time Warner releases my personal information is the minute I terminate my account with them. I will also begin a campaign against Time Warner so others will consider terminating their accounts.

  • IknowWhatuDon’tKnow

    Sue them ALL! Everyone with an internet connection is only accessing filth and corruption. Destroy the ‘Net! Destroy it, U.S. Copyright Group!!!! SAVE THE CHILDREN!

  • Anonymous

    We need Class Action lawsuits against any ISP releasing personal information.

    Class action lawsuits against these scumbags looking to scam thousands into paying what is essentially blackmail.

    Where the f..k is the ACLU on this?

  • VuzeBloat

    @ 17 Yes, the net has to be destroyed!

    We have to save Hollywwod also, not only the children!

  • James

    Nothing old fashioned methods wont stop.

    Find the producer, visit with baseball bats in hand, show him what happens to extortionists.

    Layers and courts are bullshit. Only the rich get the outcome they pay for. Everyone else needs to turn to other methods for justice.

  • Ryan Jones

    It should be interesting to see these cases get thrown out of court for lack of evidence.

    What idiots.

  • MJFox

    With a minimum of $1,500 per case in extortion claims. That’s 7.5 million dollars.

    That on hell of a good scam.

  • IknowWhatuDon’tKnow

    So there’s going to be only 5,000 lucky winners of the Hurt Locker lotto. I never win anything. : (

    I wonder if you can later sell the later in E-bay like a collectible.

    I am going to ROFL once the first news comes out about some old veteran grandpa living on a pension that gets targeted with a thousand dollar lawsuit. Can’t wait!

  • IknowWhatuDon’tKnow

    *letter

  • bitfiddler

    John Adams said it well when he told the French “Millions for defense, not a penny for tribute.”

  • AnarchyNow

    This is a bad worse-than-nazi propaganda u$ movie, it only won oscars because of that and because avatar is too much hypocrite “hippie” with indians winning at the end.
    U$A = worse than nazi totalitarian imperialist country ever

  • CGGGwydion

    Protection racket again. People’s greed never fails to astonish me…
    I am embarrassed to be human…

  • EOTW

    Boo motherfucknig hoo!

  • BLACKALiCE

    I’ll be honest, this movie was great, people SHOULD have went out and bought it..

  • qwerty

    actually this movie was pretty good, i liked it :D

    Will probably get the bluray

  • peter

    the bluray version is available for download :)

  • erinLT

    i got a letter. they are demanding. $5000 as settlement charges. if you give me your email, i can forward the letter to you.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve seen the reviews of the hurt locker, I must admit that it that it freakin sucks. I don’t know how it won oscars.

    But because of this act I will make damn sure that no one watches it in my family/friends because of this act.
    These corps aren’t looking for ‘loses on it’ I mean go look they are out trying to sue people because it’s fun for them.
    They like seeing people lose their houses and they wanna make damn sure people gets big ass lawsuits that they can’t pay in their entire life times.
    I really don’t support piracy and also I’m against those who steals and sell it. But sueing 5000 people for illegal downloading is to proof that they wanna hurt people lives.

    And if the bible is real and was not written to scare people to control them. I hope they go to hell for being so rude/evil asses trying to ruin people lives.

    Sure, illegal downloading prob wrong. But guess what don’t go after the freaking downloaders. Go after the people who runs the tracker/uploads movies since their making it publicly available.
    But to me going after 5000+ illegal downloaders is a sign of evil-greedy assholes looking for money when they already got what? billions? While we’re suffering trying to make 20k a year to live.
    It isn’t fair, but I will stand up against those who try to take away freedom of speech.
    Like acta is gonna try.

    And those seeking to buy the movie/rent/download, I would caution you not to. When you support these companies which uses the money to sue more illegal downloaders or people who has open wifi.

    So call me mental, but we’ll see whos right at the end.

    Anyways to those who are already brainwashed from the media companies, there isn’t much I can say but to open your minds.

    Do you really need media? I mean it’s bullcrap get a life.

    -Anonymous

  • Kaptain Krunch

    LOL. Five thousand victims hardly makes a dent in the p2p wars. Five thousand people could easily boycott the companies who sponsor such p2p terrorism. I have already been boycotting all Sony products for the last few years because they fund these goons. Sony is way over priced anyway.

  • Reggit

    I acctually downloaded this movie before it won any Oscars, and enjoyed so much that i actually bought the DVD off amazon once it was available – i thought that the producers deserved some of my cash for making a decent movie…how wrong i was! Reading what these assholes have now started doing, i am ashamed of myself, i should never have given them a dime.
    Im throwing my copy of hurt locker away, and downing the blu-ray version…as mentioned here, i am also going to go round as many movie review websites as i can, and give the movie as many bad reviews as i can =)
    These morons make a successful movie, make a ton of money and even win Oscars….and still they want more! There on my “never give money to these asshole’s” list now ;)

  • duane

    @erinLT

    Could you send it to TF so we can all have a look at it? Just use the email on their contact page (see top).

  • RoestVrijStaal

    For the one who don’t know: ‘Time Warner Cable’ and ‘Warner Bros’ are under the same umbrella company ‘Time Warner’.

    Just nice to know on which side your ISP belongs :)

    But I really wonder how 2 subsidiaries can fight against each other in 1 company.

    A little hypocrisy in a company…

  • LxrKan

    wow thats crazy, i liked that movie…
    good luck to those who get the letter…

  • rohan

    cunts!

  • gorehound

    Do yourself a favor and join the war.Do not buy new movies from Hollywood.Buy them used instead.
    And shame on you Voltage cause I do not care what the hell you make in the future as I will never buy it new and you will never get a dime out of this person.

  • Anonymous

    @20

    or hire “security men” to give them the china syndrome :P aka follow them and run them off the road causing them to have an accident. that would give them second thoughts about doing this crap again.

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  • Anon

    Do we have any idea when US Copyright Group started to collect IP addresses? Before or after the Oscars?

  • jm

    did Voltage hunt people using the torrent method of downloading?

  • Forest

    Gotta love vyprvpn

  • tones

    These a-holes want $1500. If you don’t pay by a certain date, it goes up to $2500. If you still refuse, they take you to court and go for the max. amount offered in copyright cases, $150 grand.

  • Hells Angel

    You are so stupid – why using bittorrent to get that title???

    Dumbasses

  • MrGz0r

    Wow i didn’t know they can get any lower.Dose download it with rs count?

  • AmeriKKKa

    Piracy is great if you don’t live in the US. The land of the free my ass.

  • blabbities

    My number one rule of torrenting is do not download brand new hot releases off of torrents, if I can help it. Or at least get in early.

    I dont think Time Warner is giving up the names anyway.

    http://blabbities.tumblr.com

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who downloaded such piece of shit war glorification propaganda deserves to be sued.

  • Lucky Man

    this movie ain’t that good cuz once you watch this movie then it will not be watched more than 2 times anyways why would they want to sue someone over this crap? i saw it myself cuz it ain’t that good. it is getting old now. 5,000 ppl but how much they want to cost each of them? if $5,000 for 1 film? they’re joking…

  • Hom3r

    I’d reply with: “Okay, I will pay, but I will send the money directly to the studio to save you some time”

  • Anonymous

    I’d reply with: “Okay, I will pay, but I will send the money directly to the studio to save you some time”

    You are out of your mind!

    The response to these parasites is this:

    …………………./´¯/)
    ………………..,/¯../
    ………………./…./
    …………./´¯/’…’/´¯¯`·¸
    ………./’/…/…./……./¨¯\
    ……..(’(…´…´…. ¯~/’…’)
    ………\……………..’…../
    ……….”…\………. _.·´
    …………\…………..(
    …………..\………….\…

  • fuckthestate

    A concise, logical argument why this tyrrany like this should be stopped. Liberterianism bitch.

    http://mises.org/journals/jls/15_2/15_2_1.pdf

  • Acce

    One MAFIAA to rule them all, One ISP to find them,
    One COURT to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

  • Jared

    Did they ever think that they just made a shitty movie?

    And that 5000 people made the worst mistake of their lives?

    Dumbass.

  • Legal immunity holder

    I am a foreigner living in Germany that speaks absolutely no German. Have received last month, an 8 page settlement letter asking for 1400 Euros, claiming I downloaded the movie “anti-christ”.

    They have already called me by phone and discovered that I speak no German. They must be feeling very happy about this. Hope they will not discover they can not take me to court until I discover all further steps.

  • z

    @8 – actually one IP does make one user in a civil responsibility sense. No matter how many ‘real’ persons are using that connection, someone does own it, pays monthly for it, is an ‘owner’, and thus responsible for anything what is happening on that connection.
    Silly? Sure, but a fact.

  • Anonymous

    Would tools like Peer Block prevent the copyright group from collecting your IP, thereby preventing that letter from arriving? Or is this something different…?

  • carpetbomb

    I downloaded it a few weeks ago, but to be honest, it was a complete waste of bandwidth. The movie totally sucked.

    However, I’d like to hit back these criminal extortionists by sharing the movie as widely as possible in some way so that people wanting to download it could do so without risk.

    Any suggestions?

  • Annoyed

    I’ve stumbled on this issue today and have done a little research, I’m amazed.
    What amazes me is how Hollywood is now responsible for laws being passed in so many countries other than the USA on the basis of copyright infringrment.
    How Hollywood is now steering the direction the WWW is going to take.
    When did copyright infringement become more important than civil liberties, or customer rights?
    I mean how can ISP’s be forced to give over the private information of their customers to people who have no real proof that a crime has been committed?
    How can Hollywood get the Dannish(?) supreme court to pass a law that a websites cannot be accessed via DNS?

  • StevO

    Well if I had to settle then I would SELL copies to make my money back.

    Insert DVD: BURN $5
    Insert DVD: BURN $5
    Insert DVD: BURN $5
    Insert DVD: BURN $5
    Insert DVD: BURN $5

    They MUST want people to be ACTUAL criminals. If thats the case we might as well actually become criminals.

  • Wade

    This movie has made 25,000,000 dollars more than their budget. Fuck off and go to hell, you’ve made enough money already.

  • duane

    @59 carpetbomb

    You don’t want to share it, you want to bury it.

    Like I said before, all you need to do is give it bad reviews, to discourage people from buying it. Just go on Amazon and write something like “This movie sucked and the producer is now suing file sharers who cared to watch this filth. Vote with your wallet and don’t buy the movie.”

  • Anon

    This law firm claims to have “Over 70 years combined experience.”

    Even if they have 70 lawyers each with one year experience, they don’t have the resources to actually litigate this many cases at once.

    If nobody settles they’ve essentially fucked themselves.

  • dncholas

    For those who do get a threatening letter do not even respond to them. Let them pursue you, don’t make it easier for them. I got one threat before and I never responded which is part of the trick. They will get more information on you by dealing with them. If they pursue then refuse to pay and go to court and have them waste their money and time trying to sue you and make them prove you specifically downloaded anything.

  • Just Me

    I agree with 62 duane
    bury it or burn it
    This movie sucks, a waste of 131 mins.
    When you watch it you can’t wait til it’s over.
    All this law suit is doing is getting more people talking about how bad this movie is.
    Dumb a$$’s are losing money by all the bad reviews they are getting now.

    If you get:
    email – don’t open it, right click, delete
    snail mail – burn it, I doubt it will be registered mail.

  • some dude

    i will surely NEVER move to america or UK

  • Anonymous

    i’m curious, if you recieve one of these letters, can’t you go out and buy the DVD then say you’ve always had a legit copy and you just wanted a digital copy for your own use?

  • Dogg

    fuck’ em
    just use an ip bounce

  • dwpbike

    i tried twice to get through this thing on justin.tv. i have trouble believing anyone would possess a copy. about as many who have copy of “alice in wonderland”?

  • Anonymous

    fake notice

  • Me

    fake notice

  • StopTheMadness

    This film got an Oscar? Seriously?!
    I call bullshit! Avatar was a thousand times better. Hell, 9 was a billion times better. They deserve Oscars way more than this crap.

    There’s solid proof that the awards are rigged. :(

    Voltage should sue themselves for not having any talent or origionality. And the soldier they ripped off the story from and mutilated into this hideus monstrosity should sue them for gross misrepresentation.

    I should sue them for the ticket price lost on this trash.

  • dave

    I’m waiting to hear about the servicemen among those 5000 people, especially any EOD or bomb squad techs. There’s got to be a few of them.

  • ctk

    how smart was i to go to the local redbox, use a 1 night free promo code, rip a high quality copy to my hard drive, and return the dvd the next day?

    there is no way to track me and the usage of that specific disc. and i could if i chose to sell a near exact copy (everything minus all non-english additions) and now not feel bad about it because these producers are being such dicks about it. i would have been happy that people were seeing my movie than any loss of revenue, especially since that loss of revenue isn’t that significant.

  • neostyles

    Dear god, people are being held responsible for their actions!

  • m3

    @73, I think I have a copy of Alice and wonderland. I read torrentfreak and get lots of suggestins (news articles like this one) to find movies to download. I am going to download hurt locker because I heard about it (here) and I also read the previous article about it I think on tf also. Basically they are just extorting their customers and getting pr for it.
    Without this article or the previous one, I probably wouldn’t have downloaded it as my internet has been cut off because sprint fails to upgrade their network and wants me to pay $700 for over usage charges because they failed to tell me that I only had 5gb I could download per month. I told them shove it up their ass I’m not paying. I am now looking for another provider because they like to rip their customers off and fail to upgrade their networks. When I find another one I will download this movie. I had to resort to dial up until I find another one. (child abuse) yes dial up is but the phone company failed also for making the top speed 53kbps.

  • Brandon

    They think that their steaming Turd of a movie is going to make alot of money and it didn’t. Ha ha got an Oscar. I would rate it about 2 out of 10. If you get a letter DO NOT respond at all! They are just hoping that the dumb people will automatically pay up. I guess they think they deserve even more money for a lousy poorly made movie…

  • Ben

    Phew! So glad I hopped on my neighbors wireless when I torrented this one!

  • Ntpiracy.com

    The Hurt Locker team should keep in their mind about innocent people. Many of them (file sharer) may not understand about the piracy issue.

  • hmmm

    I’m still wondering why everybody downloads those bad movies. Oscars ? lol, yeah whatever.

    Somehow I don’t pity the guys who get caught.
    If you want to screw a dealer, he’s gonna run after you with thugs.
    Holywood style ;D

  • Anonymous

    “I’m assuming there going to be suing for around 20 to 25 times the actual value of the hurt locker dvd”

    How does one determine its value? Note that value is different from price. I couldn’t care less for that crap, so for me, the value of a Hurt Locker DVD is exactly zero.

    I wouldn’t pay a cent for it. Why are you people even downloading that garbage? All this hating Hollywood, is just talk, yet you race to flock to download all their latest shit…

  • Chris

    Well I ended up downloading it 3 Times on BT Once I downloaded it and watched it myself then I downloaded it again to burn it to a DVD for a friend and I downloaded it a 3rd time to watch it myself from 3 diffrent users, and the worst part of it I got Comcast lol…

    I have received at least 4 DMCA notices from Comcast in the past year.

  • Anonymous

    does this only refer to bit torrent users? what about users that downloaded from direct sites like rapidshare or megaupload?

  • Steve

    This is why people should use sites like http://ddl0.com and http://katz.cd to search for downloads, these sites are 100% legal and the downloads are not via bittorrent – they are direct http downloads.

  • Anonymous

    @88: No, since rapidshare/megaupload links are direct downloads. Like @89 said, downloads via the http protocol are direct from the server to your computer.

  • Anonymous

    I am not going to give any money to these parasites because I need it to pay for the bullets.

  • Dre

    For anyone out there that gets the letter,

    I would like to know how much they are offering to settle for, when you download the movie, what site you downloaded it from, and if you use any type of program like Peerblock.

    Thanks.

  • root@amsix

    That movie sucked, big time. It will not become better dragging this power-eager bullcrap machine forward.

    I would have been VERY disappointed, had I really paid to see it.

    Stupid female director too. Hope they fail at the box-office for years to come.

  • Anonymous

    Aww to bad for me! Another movie I didn’t see nor do I have any urge to download.

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  • purple durple

    they might aswell just say all ips between 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 is infringing… because it fucking everyone god damn it

  • Anonymous

    what if you downloaded the film, liked it, then bought it on blu ray to get the home cinema experience like many people do? granted you shouldnt have downloaded it for free but dont go for the monkey, go for the organ grinder. its not their fault its readily available for free.

  • Ezio Auditore Da Firenze

    Hey guys, is this suing have any effect on downloaders from other countries like africa, china, india, russia, vietnam or is it only valid in us or uk?

  • Wisdom

    It’s false, through and through. There’s no way for them to PROVE you did it, as IPs are pointless. ANYONE who knows computers to the point they use torrents can proxy an IP and therefore make it look like someone else is responsible.

    They have to PROVE you’re guilty- as in, have HARD evidence you did it. And an IP provided to the through invasion of privacy via your ISP isn’t hard evidence.

    All it proves is someone was able to mimic YOUR IP.

  • grr

    @38 just because there under the same “umbreala” doesnt mean there together in a way biz 101

  • Anonymous

    @89 how is downloading from a http site “100% legal” can anyone give me a brief reason as to the reason.

    cause if anyone can reassure me I would be very grateful, give me a peace of mind

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  • me

    This is exactly why i have time warner, not saying i use my connection illegally- but i prefer my privacy.

  • Doink

    those 5000 should counter sue hurt locker makers for putting out such a god awful crappy movie.

  • walter

    Considering that there are well over 5000 people seeding and leeching on public trackers as I type this, I don’t think the BT community is fazed. The producers want a war. They’ll get one.

  • Facebook=$#!T

    I hadn’t downloaded–or watched–that piece of crap movie, but decided to download it as soon as I read this article.
    Seeding/leeching now!

  • Facebook=$#!T

    Oh, and one more thing:
    The Hurt Locker should be glad they got an Oscar they didn’t even deserve. Then again, Hollywood and politics have become inseparable! That’s why the academy award was given to a crappy movie that promotes war, and which was so disliked that it didn’t make any money; as opposed to Avatar, a movie that broke records and which promotes environmental responsibility.

  • Anonymous

    “38 May 29, 2010 at 15:12 by RoestVrijStaal

    For the one who don’t know: ‘Time Warner Cable’ and ‘Warner Bros’ are under the same umbrella company ‘Time Warner’.

    Just nice to know on which side your ISP belongs :)

    But I really wonder how 2 subsidiaries can fight against each other in 1 company.

    A little hypocrisy in a company…”

    not true at all, In March 2009, Time Warner Cable was divested from the company in a spin-out. It’s good to see that the spin-out cable company is looking after it’s customers and isn’t just a schill to it’s former holding group.

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  • markie

    Trying to make more money of a crappy movie. I guess this will be a new trend now.

  • C0RR0SIVE

    I don’t think peerblock really does much good, as the people can still see your IP in the swarm, it just blocks them from downloading/uploading to your computer, so they would have no real way of knowing if you really ARE downloading/uploading the video file.

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  • mistamosh

    I’ve been following the actions since they first were reported on Youtube, and well, Voltage is f*cked for the future, theres a large group of people that are boycotting Voltage. GOOD! It’s what they deserve, it won’t stop any downloading at all. 5,000 out of 10,000,000… Good luck “finding them all” Nicolas Chartier!

  • Anonymous

    lol… I downloaded HD version from the “internets” and didn’t watch it yet.

  • Soundwave

    Nicolas Chartier (Voltage Pictures, LLC)is a really stupid dick.

  • Soundwave

    Academy Bars ‘Hurt Locker’ Producer Nicolas Chartier From Oscars

    http://www.deadline.com/2010/03/academy-bans-nicolas-chartier-from-attending-oscarcast-for-violating-campaigning-standards/

    ‘Hurt Locker’s Nicolas Chartier Admits Sending Private Emails About ‘Avatar’

    http://www.deadline.com/2010/02/hurt-lockers-nicolas-chartier-admits-sending-private-emails-about-avatar/

    Hurt Locker producer: criticizing our lawsuits makes you a moron and a thief

    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/18/voltage-pictures-pre.html

  • Anonymous

    @89 how is downloading from a http site “100% legal” can anyone give me a brief reason as to the reason.

    cause if anyone can reassure me I would be very grateful, give me a peace of mind

    does anyone have any answer to this question?

  • ebch

    We should make a “Download Hurt Locker” day.

  • kjhe

    ebch, I was thinking the same… ;)

    I heard you could find the 720p rip on Torrentz, just for looking the statistics though. Downloading pirated films is STEALING! ;)

    http://torrentz.com/8712c3948e8f73a8eaaf0d9e758f776002c349e4

  • *D

    ^^I’d “Steal” it, but it’s so crap that you’ll have to pay me to do it
    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    Personally, I have not seen the movie yet and wanted to download it but never had the time, I been out if town a lot. Was the movie any good?

  • MikeonTV

    Is there some documentation as to how they get the IP address’ of the people they claim pirated the movie? These are defiantly downloaders and not uploaders?

  • Helen Lovejoy

    “Will someone please think of the children?”

  • leonidas

    The US Copyright Group got all the IP’s from a anti-p2p program called Guardaley. The Guardaley server is located in Germany. I suggest that everyone start blocking German IP’s thru PeerBlock or your IP filter.

  • Wondering

    Dear users,

    I was wondering whether a point may be expressed in this case where the company sues individuals for “damages” we hear all the time about individuals getting sued for thousands of dollars. The point which I would like to point out and maybe hear peoples responses is this: When you download a movie, lets say Hurt Locker in this case using any bittorrent application, lets say that the whole file is 1.39GB, you download the whole 1.39GB however you only share lets say half of the file for arguments sake with your fellow bittorrent “friends”. Now even though you are as an individual carrying out an illegal act in some countries, the damages which these companies impose upon individuals must go hand in hand with the degree of the crime should it not? Why should they be able to dictate the “damages” for specific individuals? Share your thoughts please

  • fukdakids

    Whats all this bull about children..
    save hollywood? lol fuck hollywood give us new plots someday plz..

    Yes this movie was good, and i streamed it, didnt pay a dime.
    But i bought a box with 10 movies
    back in feb. and they all sucked. only like 1% of all the movies are worth watching and they want full price for all of them.

    They are making more money than ever, they dont need saving lol.

    But screw kids and screw hollywood, this is about corrupt companies who inside their own structure have people who steal the movie, maybe they should try and regulate that first.
    Own garden first ?

    How do you think all the movies get there.. And how much money do you think they make in court?

  • Anonymous
  • DaFoo

    Estupido totally just gave his password to his account on here…

  • retaliate

    Go rate the movie a 1 on imdb.com whether you saw it or not.

    A lower IMDB rating will eventually result in lower DVD sales and cost the studios real lost sales.

    Hit ‘em where it hurts.

  • 55

    It says they’re suing people who downloaded it in “recent months.” How recent is recent?

  • Bring the Pain

    @ US Copyright Group

    Go ahead and sue. Oh, and keep looking over your shoulder a$$holes.

  • Anonymous

    @ 61 (… No matter how many ‘real’ persons are using that connection, someone does own it, pays monthly for it, is an ‘owner’, and thus responsible for anything what is happening on that connection.
    Silly? Sure, but a fact)

    So if somebody uses your car to commit a crime you are responsible?

    moron.

  • bbear

    Use hosts like Netload, Rapidshare and hotfile?…all this torrent stuff will only get you caught.

  • Christophe T.

    reading Germn news : seems the problem with the missing revenue is due to bad marketing rather than online piracy … here the link : http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,694770,00.html

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  • guy

    @128

    I’m guessing around or after oscars, but I can’t back that up

  • US JUSTICE SYSTEM

    US JUSTICE SYSTEM is a for profit entity, period! They fight for the guy with the deepest pockets, duh!!!

  • Has anyone…

    So, has anyone (you or those you may know/have heard of) actually received a letter yet?

    I mean, obviously 5000 out of a conservative estimate of at least 3,000,000 is 0.17%, so chances are slim at best, but regardless.

  • Abbernomad

    I contacted my ISP (Shrewsbury Cable) over the phone. They are in complete compliance with any complain requests received. The latest was for the movie “Sherlock Holmes”. After restoring the connection, they warned that there are plans now for the complaintants to send out fines of $300-$500 and to shut off the connection permanently. Shrewsbury Cable is a monopoly ISP for the town. If shut off, there are few if any viable opportunities. When speaking to the man on the phone, he did not know what ‘net neutrality’ meant, never heard of ‘time-shifting’, and was in the dark regarding privacy rights of the customer. I am aware the ISP is unlikely to advocate for the user.
    One other thing, the ISP told me that it was only a handful of users who download illegally when I asked if they would have any customers left after the ‘infringer’ banning. One idea I have is to advertise the shit out of PB and Utorrent, then get the library, Borders, and coffeehouses banned permanently.

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  • djklyde

    all this hulabaloo and the movie was lame

  • TorrentFreak

    Hahhaha… you can try to sue… Torrent aint illegal. And secondly most of people uses BTguard and HideIP programs etc… But anyway torrent aint illegal and never will be.

  • Avatarwasbetter

    This is my absolute new favorite quote.

    “Attorneys for Voltage wrote in the complaint that unless the court stops the people who pirate “The Hurt Locker,” then Voltage will suffer “great and irreparable injury that cannot fully be compensated or measured in money.” ” – CNET

    HAHAHAHAHA

  • BOBBY!

    Doesn’t Time Warner own movie companies or something?? bit ironic don’t you think?

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  • Brianca

    Small fee?
    So how much is the settlement then? I can sure as hell assume its more than the $20+ dollars of the actual DVD/BLU RAY sales price.

  • Fred the cave man

    It sounds like the 5000 are possibly the one’s that seeded it for days on end You know the ones that most flagrantly flaunted there noses at the copy right laws and more apt to lose a law suit I read that the movie was downloaded by over three million people so again why just 5 to 50 thousand people

  • MrGz0r

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  • Anonymous

    I feel like suing them for my time wasted in downloading and watching this utterly crap movie….

  • Dave

    Is the action just been taken in America or are users from the UK involved in this aswell? Is it just from bittorrent they are tracking it down??

  • unknown

    Can they get people in Canada?

  • Bob

    Same lawfirm involved in the farcry lawsuit. I say we involve them in a little witchhunt

  • Screw Them

    Its almost about time to begin building a new internet, get these idiots out and make a new private network, with faster connections and no legal worries.

  • Zizzul

    IF THEY ONLY KNEW…….IF THE PRICES FOR THE MOVIES WERE NOT SO OUTRAGEOUS…..AT LEAST HALF THE PPL DOWNLOADING IT…WOULD NOT BE. SEEMS LIKE THEY GET MORE DUMB AS THE YEARS PASS….NOT MORE SMART. GO SPEND YOUR MILLIONS ON TRYING TO GET PPL TO PAY YOU $1,000-$2,000 OR EVEN $3,000 IN COURT COST….AND LETS SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT. PPL DONT HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR GAS THESE DAYS….YOU REALLY THINK THEY WILL BE PAYING THAT? GET SMART….WORK WITH THE FANS AND LOWER PRICES…….O WAS $10 MILL FOR EACH PERSON IN THE MOVIE NOT ENOUGH FOR THEM? BS SHARING IS CARING!!!! LONG LIVE PB&BJ

  • Grrrr

    Just don’t buy anything from Voltage Pictures, they will soon lose money. It’s about time we started standing up to these companies and not giving them our cash in the first place. We as a society always seem to give in and accept the crap they dish out. Boycott the internet providers, boycott the film studios. Is it really going to be the end of the world because we missed an over rated film, game, music track or whatever? I don’t think so. When their overall legal sales start diminishing they will soon change their minds. I can guarantee that some unfortunate individual who hasn’t done anything wrong will end up getting sued. Always happens.

  • George

    Are you at risk of being sued if you live in the UK?

  • MercuryBlue

    They just want the free publicity. And they’re counting on people who don’t know their rights caving and forking over the cash.

  • Nicholas Chartier

    I would have handed this personally, but I don’t have the time to sift through IP addresses.

    I got things to do… like masturbating to pictures of myself while burning money and laughing at people who are different than me.

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha ha ha!! I love living in Mexico… Go ahead, sue all you want. You can’t touch me down here, motherf**kers.

  • ANONY

    Jokes on you, you live in Mexico Gross.

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  • RandomGuy

    Reading through the responses here are pretty funny – what gives you all the right to steal someone else’s work? You can’t tell me that paying $5 to rent a DVD at your local video store is OH SO EXPENSIVE that you can’t afford it. That’s pure BS. It’s not about the money; piracy is rarely about the money.

    Instead, it’s about the greedy, narcissistic attitude that pervades so much of modern online culture – that somehow you guys think you all deserve to be able to take any song, movie, book, or game just because you feel like it. What gives you the right? Few of you give any thought to the fact that by stealing that creative content, you’re not supporting the people creating it, and thus eventually they might not be able to create that kind of stuff any more…then what will you have to steal?

    We live in an awful world for anyone who wants to create and be fairly compensated for it. The lack of even the most basic of morals is astounding.

  • STEVE

    SO ARE PEOPLE FROM THE UK AT RISK TOO???

  • Thinker

    Randomguy, I agree with your main point. The guy made a movie and now people are watching it without paying him for it. That’s wrong.

    However, here’s where I have a problem. It seems, I’m responsible for everything that is downloaded using an internet account that I paid for. So if a brother, roommate, grandkid, maid, employee, spouse or anyone else using my wireless router downloads something, I’m going to get sued? I hope the gentleman that owns Volt never lets his kids, employees, cleaning lady, or grandkids use an internet account he or his company has paid for. If one of them gets an email with an embedded picture or video that’s copyrighted, he might get blackmailed into paying 2500 bucks for a 10 dollar picture.

  • Aemaeth

    I live in England, where money really is the aim of everybody’s game. I can’t think of a person who wouldn’t screw someone over for a few hundred pounds.

    I completely agree that this disgusting act is not just about making money, but scaring hundreds of thousands of others into paying for (defo in this case) absolute rubbish.

    Our country recently passed a law that anyone ‘suspected’ of downloading pirate material can have all internet connection severed, no chance of future connection, and your only hope a trial paid for out of your own pocket. This was pushed through by corporate media lobbyists with a generous hand (more like wallet) towards the members of parliament.

    The BBC is force funded by the taxpayer – the price of approx £150 a year for a license. Even if you don’t have or watch a TV, you must pay if you have a computer now (try proving you can’t watch TV over the internet!). Another law pushed through by a corporation. And if you don’t? How did you guess, a fine – £1,000. For 2008-09 the BBC got £3.49 billion from license fees alone, plus commercial interests and government grants (covered by taxpayer money of course!) of over £1.1 billion.

    Now BT (British Telecommunications) are preparing for nationwide super internet. This is being given massive backing from the government (financially as well as vocally/legally) – apart from monopolising the entire internet in our country, it is likely we will be paying further license fees of their choosing, and further laws being passed in their favour, with all personal information held by a government funded telecommunications giant.

    The companies and corporations are starting to make the laws now, and they will scare, blackmail, and ruin anyone to make money. It’s time to make a stand!

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  • blackmail

    Hurt locker maker #1: hmmmmmmm….. well our reviews sucked, dont know how we won oscars.
    Hurt locker maker #2: but to prove to america that our movie was great, lets take the money of all the people who thought the movie was too crappy to spend 25 bucks to buy it. Because you know how much taking 25 bucks reaaalllly puts a hole in our wallet.
    Hurt locker maker #1: lets do it! but we have to first get the downloaders personal info and find some really good lawyers….

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  • noCS

    WTF is Hurt Locker?
    I’ve never even heard of it.

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  • Borderliner

    > Would tools like Peer Block prevent
    > the copyright group from collecting
    > your IP, thereby preventing that
    > letter from arriving? Or is this
    > something different…?

    No. PeerBlock & Co. prevents banned IPs from connecting to you and downloading, but they have no effect on the tracker that has your IP and gives it to anyone who asks. PB might help if the case goes to court, as there is no real evidence that the accuser could download from you. Theoretically this could mean that you won’t be bothered at all (why send you a notice when other users exist from whom downloading was possible), but at the same time it could be the other way around – you’ll be accused to shake you up (you were using PB and probably though that nobody could have anything on you, so when a notice comes you might be too shocked to understand that your defence didn’t really fail).

    For those who asked about the legality of direct downloads: cosult your local copyright laws, they are different in different countries. For example: in my county there is a paragraph in the copyright law that allows to use a copyrighted work, without specifing how the copy you’re using is accuired, without pay as we already have an “author tax” which exists on blank CD/DVDs/cassettes/VHSs and equipment needed for recording. So I can, legally, download movies from RS that others have illegally uploaded. Now, some might say that such a tax is worse, but for me, personally, this is an acceptable solution. I get my share, the authors get their share, if not from their creation then from the DVDs I’ll be using to store their creation ;)

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