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I Was a Member of Centropy, The World’s Leading Movie Piracy Group

During the first half of the last decade, people downloading movies from the Internet would very often be looking for the same things as they are now. They wanted movies that were only available officially in theaters but not only that, they wanted them in the absolute finest quality. There was one group that met all of these requirements, a group so influential that the FBI mounted a massive operation to catch them. That group was called Centropy.

In 2005 and along with many others, then 22-year-old Matthew Thompson of Lubbock, Texas, was raided by the FBI as part of Operation Sitedown. This international initiative spanning 10 countries was aimed at bringing leading figures of the so-called Warez Scene to their knees.

Thompson was involved in movie piracy, but not just with any old group. Wicked1, as he was better known online, was a member of Centropy, the world’s leading movie piracy group.

Today, 7 years on, Thompson is sharing with TorrentFreak readers an excerpt from his forthcoming book, This is the Scene.

This is the Scene

My name was Wicked1 and I was a member of Centropy. For people not around in the early 2000’s and/or think the pinnacle of movies comes from the likes of IMAGiNE or aXXo, allow me this chance to correct you.

Centropy (CTP), when we existed, was the biggest release group in the world. Most people tend to think of ISO games groups as the leaders of The Scene, but there has always been more than one group operating at a given time. During my time, there was Razor1911, Fairlight, and Deviance. There was only ever one group the quality of Centropy in the movie scene.

We were the pioneers in how to pirate a movie in theaters. Our releases of The Matrix Reloaded, and Star Wars Episode 2 were part of the reason why one of the most common phrases in the pirating of new release movies was “I’ll wait for the Centropy”. The quality of our releases is virtually unmatched to this day.

Through our former DivX release partners in Deity, and later under our own spinoff, Brutus, we also released some of the largest DVD copies of movies ever, such as Lord of the Rings The Two Towers. Our most famous release was the March 1st release of The Return of the King, almost 2 and a half months before it came out on DVD.

Centropy

What was my job in the two years I was a member of CTP? Was I the guy sitting in the movie theaters or the guy who uploaded movies to our encoding boxes? No, I was the guy who supplied computer hardware to the guys who sat in movie theaters and the person who found the suppliers who gave us the vast majority of our movies.

I was also one of the guys in The Scene who people would come to with fast business Internet connections to help set up topsites for Centropy, like a site run out of Michigan in a Comcast datacenter.

I became a member of Centropy in 2002 after having been a member of some very different groups. First, there was A-Team, a scrubby movie release group. Our only claim to anything was a subpar release of the first Harry Potter movie.

After bouncing around a few other groups like Esoteric and Obus, I ended up helping the TV group FFN pay for the internet connection for one of its cappers. It got me a leech account on some of the better sites around then, and it helped me join the racing group Enrage.

The leader of Enrage, a guy who went by the name of Blackjack, was someone fairly high in the Scene. After I had left Esoteric, he came to me one day telling me that Centropy was looking for someone to help keep their supplier happy. Within two months, I was supplying hardware, money, and bringing in new potential suppliers. Random topsites like AKSISO, a gigabit site in the Czech Republic, decided to give me site-op privileges in hopes that Centropy would become an affiliate of the site.

Things were great for me as a pirate; I had access to whatever I wanted and was a member of some of the biggest groups that have ever existed. Then Operation Fastlink happened.

Operation Fastlink was a multi-year, joint-operation run by the United States Department of Justice and the Computer Crimes and Intellectual Property Section of INTERPOL designed to take out the groups Fairlight, Kalisto, Echelon, ProjectX, and Class.

I had been around somewhat in 2001 during Operation Buccaneer, but that had very minimal effects on the world of piracy. Fastlink was different, as Fairlight (FLT) and their associated acts were some of the largest groups and some of the most secure in all of warez.

I woke up the morning of April 22, 2004, to what could pretty much be called chaos on IRC [Internet Relay Chat]. The private Centropy IRC server was down, and nobody from the group was on Efnet or Linknet, and virtually all of my sites were down for security reasons.

When I finally got in touch with a few of my other Scene buddies, they had told me that FLT and most of their sites had been busted and that I should probably lay low for a while. The fact that FLT had been busted didn’t bother me all that much; what bothered me was that their two US sites, Optical Illusion and DOH, were both sites I was on and both had been busted.

Like most rational people who are scared of going to prison would do, I freaked out and destroyed my hard drives and burned every burned CD and DVD I had in a random field outside of my town. For the next two months, I disappeared from piracy until my friends korax and Dact told me about this cool gigabit US topsite run by a guy named Griffen.

That topsite’s name was CHUD, or Can’t Hold us Down. Griffen and his site would later come back to haunt us in the biggest way imaginable….

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Want to hear more? We certainly do. Matthew is currently running a Kickstarter campaign to raise funding to continue work on his forthcoming book, This is the Scene.

The campaign page and accompanying video are available here.

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  • yaright

    centropy existed before you BUT not long after

  • ofproto

    That will definitely be a interesting read.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Superdanowns Dan Remi R. Eliassen

    This is would like too get more of :D

  • yaright

    ill add this post system sucks
    and DRINK OR DIE was far larger FAR FAR LARGER i know as i was a member….HAHA

    • BRiTiSH

      me too ;)

    • Liquidlicker

       Was a member of DoD, too. Though back in the days there was little to worry about. I still remember the race with rzr. Now i’m a useless accountant in some useless firm. Good old teen days back then.

  • Master

    Great read.

  • Dongle crack was genius

    never into movies back then…..

    Tips beer in remembrance of …..H2O , PARADOX ,BEAT

    • Asashii

      never into movies back then ? 2005, makes it sound so long ago, i am just old, and would like to thank Bram Cohen for sitting at his desk and given me good shares.. me share with you long time !!!!!

    • TehPARADOX

      TehPARADOX.c

      hella big site

  • Anonymous

    Interesting. Can’t wait to get my hands on the book. I would like to know how the whole piracy thing works, and if its really all about sharing. I mean, I really want to know what drives these individuals. I haven’t heard of centropy, but I was there in the time of aXXo and other release groups. I hope this book will come out soon.

    • Me

      It’s hardly all about sharing. The Scene is extremely secretive, closed off and competition-driven and have never really been about sharing outside the closed off space they use.
      The only reason why The Scene releases are available through more public means is because some individuals of The Scene leaks them.

      The modern and public “P2P Scene”, however, operates more on the “sharing is caring” mantra. aXXo is of the latter, while most other release groups are of the former.

      Remember that this book will mostly only cover the former, and not the ever-growing modern and open P2P Scene. If you’re looking for some form of “nobel” excuse why groups of The Scene does what they do, look somewhere else.

    • http://twitter.com/BustaLinx David

      Lol, aXXo…

      • ZarathustrA

        I know, rofl!

        “I was there in the time of aXXo and other release groups”

        Classic.

        • Jerry Garcia

          Whoa Man, Like I was there in the time of AoxoMoxoA, I think ¿¿¿ uhhhhhhh, before I died and shit.

        • Mental Extension

          Holy fucking shit you guys are cool! Can I join your super secret club?

    • t

      The scene is based on sharing between FTP servers. Groups upload releases and then couriers (people with accounts to different FTP sites) spread them across the global network of FTP sites, then eventually someone uploads them to bittorrent sites and all the other public venues. Within the FTP scene there is a whole community based on competition between groups, and getting access to sites to leech stuff.

      One thing I think changed a lot from the FTP days to the bittorrent days is how BT kids seem a lot more entitled to piracy than FTP people did. There wasn’t any of this ‘we have a right to do this’ crap, and there weren’t all these mainstream political movements or controversies like there is today. Piracy was just a form of harmless crime, and more of a game for fun. It’s a whole other world now.

      Piracy back then was all about having fun with competition, and chatting on IRC, etc. I was in a few MP3 groups and also did some console/handheld games, and that was a lot of fun. I miss the old days!

      • Blah

         It was all competition based like it has been stated above and dump site axx as well :-)

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  • bro

    This would be a book that I wouldn’t pirate.

  • Anonymous

    WTF is with this “new” Disqus system?!

    This shit now looks more like a facebook comments section. What the hell..

    edit: and comments seem to appear in totally random order.. my post got plonked somewhere in the middle instead of the end.. seriously?! -_-

    • Anonymous

      I’m guessing it’s sorting by rating. Yours has one downvote, so it goes to the bottom since it’s the worst ranked comment.

      I’ve only just noticed it myself…

    • Fred

      I’ll keep clicking “negative” to keep you at the bottom

    • Scream at me

      Your comment sucks, thats why it shows up at the bottom.

      I love the new disquis, better than the crap basic one,

      • Anonymous

        Ah I see.. I managed to get all the retarded trolls like you out of their holes…

        • Guest

          Indeed. The new comment system only increases troll activity. Trying to be funny so they get #1 top liked comment. I come here to get AWAY from sites like Facebook ^_^

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    I want to read this book. And though i don’t like reading books, I certainly want to read this one

    p.s. damn discuss couldn’t make it shittier -_-

  • punky

    I think I will wait for the kindle version and download it lol

  • Randy_Lahey

    I’m still wondering about the Nfo from Herbie: Fully Loaded. Was he ever caught?

  • Worried

    As long as the fight for an open internet continues, publishing aspects of how the scene operates is considered by me as dangerous for the common good of the pirates, ban this book hehehe

    • wicked1

      I’m not really giving any information away about the “secrets of the scene”, not that there are really any secrets about the scene that you can’t find on google. It’s more about what the FBI did during the 3 main busts: Buccaneer, Fastlink, and Site Down.

      • wicked1isafag

        you only added “fastlink” after I mentioned it, you’re a faggot

        • DT

           why the hate everywhere now? Is it a campaign to thwart his plans?

      • -=-=-=-=

        OMG i remember Buccaneer, Fastlink, and Site Down
        I was caught up in site down june 2005
        i remember it like yesterday  Guns in my face when i opened the door
        i remember GTD in previous  and JD333

  • Just Me

    Speaking of Griffin and Operation Site Down, there was an ongoing conspiracy theory over here on Slyck Forums:

    http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12404

    As you can tell, it’s very old news. The short version to this theory is that the writers of the show knew about the imminent busts and attempted to “warn” the scene by inserting clues..The name “Gryffin” and “The.Yankees.Suck” along with the soundtrack of “He works for the FBI” sent a lot of people into conniptions over whether there was any plausibility to it all. There’s also the connection of “LuckyChi” being “Chirayu Patel” which was the name of the leader of BOOZERS. Chirayu was the one who introduced everyone to CHUD apparently, and I guess Gryffin and him were friends of the sorts.

    Thanks..I’ll show myself out.

    • wicked1

      most of the book, and most of the kickstarter funds are going to go to answering those questions. Even though this article was a lot of me just talking about myself, the majority of the book is about how the FBI and the entertainment industries tried to stop The Scene.

      • Just Me

        Thanks for the reply, look forward to seeing the finished product. I read a lot of books and documentaries are by far my favorite subject.

        Main reason I brought that up is because that’s the only conspiracy theory I’ve ever read that has a chance of being
        true. I understand that it’s incredibly unlikely, I’m the most critical person I know. But with all of the stories and connections tying the two together there is at least a chance of it being a legitimate story. Consider that it happened so many years ago, it’s been stuck in my mind since I read it and I remembered exactly as if it were yesterday. I’ve been asked over the years by a couple of people if there’s any conspiracy theories that I believe, that’s the only thing that’s stuck out because there’s just so many similarities. I would like to finally know if there was anything true to the story once and for all..A lot of people are probably wondering still, the internet has a way of never forgetting.

        Anyway, thanks for writing back..Again, I look forward to reading your book.

  • http://Not.Telling/ Kr0nZ

    Will the book be availible on TPB?
    If so then I might give it a glimpse

  • quantocks

    I won’t fund the kickstart, but I will pirate the book. If it’s good I will buy it, if it’s just a hardware supplier talking rubbish, I won’t!

    • wicked1

      I wasn’t just a hardware supplier, that was just what I did for CTP. The majority of what’s in the book is about how the FBI did the busts on the scene, from Buccaneer to Site Down.

      • quantocks

        Fastlink?

        • wicked1

          When the FBI quits saying they don’t have anything about it, then yes.

  • jax

    if any of you think aXXo is even remotely “scene” or “quality”, you are very much mistaken.

    • Anonymous

      If you think many people give a shit you are mistaken.

      As much as I hate crap filmed in cinemas – people still download them.

      The “Scene” should get over it – doing it not for wider release, that is rubbish too. Why tag it then… its showboating, a race, whatever you want to call it.

      These days with dvd/bluray coming out so much sooner after cinema release, all the groups are doing is ripping and uploading.

  • Admiral Ackbar

    I’ll wait for the pdf. :D

  • vi

    lol yeah OK buddy centropy can suck my balls, they were absolutely terrible until they got few decent suppliers like 3-4years later, their releases were nuked all the time

    there were HUGE vcd groups before them in late 90′s that were releasing shitload of movies while these guys were still children, this guy needs to fuck off thinking he’s super cool..

    think THCiSO, TFE, EViLiSO <– these guys pretty much invented the VCD scene, i'd prefer to read a book by these guys

    • Anonymous

      Word.

      Oh, and you forgot VCDEurope.

      • Anonymous

        Exactly. Centropy came along much later after EViLISO did the first packaged movie release in 1997. #vcdrs did a few movies, non-packed that sites did not take, but EViLISO started it all..

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  • Faker

    Back in the day, when I was young! I’m not a kid anymore, but some days I sit and wish I was a kid again!

  • TVL2

    It’s not that fucking hard to cap a movie to scene standards.
    As for quality, you go past those standards, you’re wasting all our time.
    I have been offered leechslots, and always turned them down.
    They were never free.
    Why pay for axx on some shitty dumps, or even good dumps?
    My money goes further on p2l tor sites or usenet…

    • Anonymous

      lol pay to leech is not get offered a leech slot
      anyone can pay to leech off some colo

  • TVL2

    “Disqusting” comment section Ernesto, seriously.
    I will try to like it, but meh
    x3c, change handles, christ dude

    • lip

      Bad removals

      1) No noticeable separation between comments.
      2) The “in reply to” is gone.

      Overall , without the separation it looks messy , hard to read.
      You don’t know who is talking to who.

      good updates

      1) addition of down-vote.

      2) Discussion auto update ( show new comments )

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  • LSD

    VideoCD pwnd Centropy

    • wicked1

      VideoCD was a good group, I had plenty of scene buddies that were members.

  • wickedOne

    I am writing a book about giving carded hardware to piracy members for leech access to a topsite, HERRRRR DERRRRRR….I wasn’t actually good for anything in the scene, but please donate money to me to hear my crappy story

    buy my book please!

    • http://twitter.com/Itr0ll Pat Patterson

      im glad you piked up on that just like i id… hewas curry and hardware supplier with leech to topsites…..low low level minion

  • stunt

    Ha, what a douche.

    Who in their right mind would pay money to read this guys self absorbed thoughts?

    “I was in the scene group Centropy, and we were uber leet, we released all the movies before everyone and our quality was far superior.”

    • Monster

      Totally agree. Next we’ll be hearing the crazy ramblings of that Phara idiot from ninja. Trips me out how some of these people actually think they can walk on water. lol

  • Guest

    Bad decision, Disqus! We shall continue “Guest” saga!!!

    • Guest@das.com

      Why the hell Disqus broke the encryption?

  • Anonymous

    Sharing has to be one of the easiest things to call yourself “good” at.

    It’s like saying “I’m a good road sweeper”

    And this guy want’s $10k to get this project going LOL

    • wicked1

      FBI FOIA requests aren’t cheap, with over 20000 pages of documentation.

      • Danny

        Ignore peluser, he is our current pet MAFFIA troll.

        • Anonymous

          Good morning Danny, stalking again ?

        • Danny

          No stalking just poking you for a quick jolly. It obviously had the desired effect!

        • Anonymous

          poor lad, you have a simpletons sense of humor.

        • Danny

          Fail, you login as guest to like your own comments.

        • Danny

          Fail, you login as guest to like your own comments.

        • Anonymous

          poor lad, you have a simpletons sense of humor.

      • WikiMe

        Time for a wikileak I guess :)

      • Anonymous

        How much are the FOIA requests you want to see ? The FBI website merely states “I am willing to pay up to [$____ ] for the
        processing of this request. Please inform me if the estimated fees will
        exceed this limit before processing my request.”

        • wicked1

          The going rate is 20 dollars a CD for the first 3, then 15 for each additional CD. Each cd holds around 700 pages. Then there is a quality editor.

  • oaje

    There should be a tag [ADVERTISEMENT] in the title, since this is what it is

    • Techanon

      I agree. Blatant advertisement, and worse, it’s for a kickstarter for a book-to-be of the memories of a leecher… so we don’t even know if it it will be made.

  • Anonymous

    chud had an evil brother called lad
    also check out episode 9 of the scene mini series made by sony/jun group, it aired the week before the busts and had a charater called gryphen who worked for the fbi :P

  • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

    He seems cool enough, I guess. Good luck on your book!

  • An anonymous contributor

    I’m going to pirate the hell out of that book

    • tsunku

      hahaha i was just thinking that too!

      • tsunku

        as an aside, i hope he releases it in .mobi instead of pdf or epub

      • Anonymous

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    • http://twitter.com/Aranjedeath Jacob Taylor

      The irony is palpable.

  • Super Gogetdanson

    MONIES YEH

  • Jerry Garcia

    This new format is givin’ me a Bummer Man! We should protest against
    Dicksuqus.

    • 3c905b-tx

      Occupy!

  • gold55

    Centropy who? Best quality, my ass. Since when does “the scene” with it’s ricidulous encoding rules no ANYTHING about quality?

    • Anonymous

       maybe you should go read the releasing standards

  • Anonymous

    Been a while since I read an entire article from start to finish. Thank you Matt and TF.

  • guest

    I’ve never heard of centropy and I’ve been a pirate for like forever. Interesting story though, I’d read it.

    I despise the idea of kickstarter though. He would and could write the book without the money I bet.

    • tsunku

      heh yea right you’ve been a pirate forever. bet you never even heard of INC or THG eh? probably was still sucking your mom’s teat!

      • what is 1337

        Late 80′s, Teh absolute best time 4 the scene… 

        The HUMBLE Guys core members are from FBR, (c=64 Crack/Import)… Back in the BBS era when single line 1200/2400 baud modems & $7.00 a minute LD charges effected release times, File size was a serious issue & programmers wrote good code that was ultra-packed. Everything was original vs. today where the same game engine + different gfx = $new. Teh true “Elite” was 1,200 -1,500 talented users & “Optical Illusion” thats listed above went live in 1989 by Optik Freeze & was an official FBR site. Eric survived the whole “Not So Humble Babe” (Amy from 313 areacode, NOT the Amy from 615 areacode/Candyman’s wife) credit card fraud problems. I did not know Eric was busted in 2004, We have not talked for over 20 years.

        ***Note 2 self: Do not place BBS #’s on Intro/Crack screens…

        If anyone wants more reading on this topic search “Bruce Sterling” it’s a free book with an online audio version by “Cory D” in Google. I think Jason Scott has a copy on Textfiles.org.

        Search: Roy/SAC, Radman/ACID.org, Defacto2.org,CMDB.org or C64.org and you will find everything related c64. ***Use VICE Emulator and see all cracktros/intros on your PC.

        Wiki has a full page related to THG and our little creation called .NFO files.

        Candyman (Dave Frances) FBR/THG passed away (Heart Attack).

        Thank you:
          EFF.org – Multi Resource.
           ChillingEffects.com – Legal Resource.
            TorrentFreak.com – Information Resource.

        We all spill milk, it’s how you clean it up that counts. 

        • 2600 Article 1990

          true history/stats/dates was lost b4 .nfo’s.

          everyone had a different view of the scene: Like the Chaos Club, the Cyberpunks are less hung up on getting hold of the latest technology and more interested in educating the public and spreading information. Invited to participate in the Santarcangelo Arts Festival, held in Rimini last Summer, they organised lectures on virtual reality and multi- media, flying in speakers from Germany and Britain and running an ‘information wall’. This comprised of a wall of old TVs playing feeds whichwere processed by an Amiga video editing system and mixed raw footage of thefestival events, computer graphics and the Cyberpunks’ own videos. Therewere also plans to set up a pirate TV station and broadcast in a narrow 2kmband towards Rimini. Unfortunately, after technical problems and concernvoiced by members of the Mutoid Waste Company (also present at the festival)that the material transmitted might be X rated, this had to be called off.Whilst groups in Europe seem to be gradually evolving into artful campaignersand consciousness-raising pranksters, the majority of US hackers haveremained simple tech freaks. However, things may be changing. US hackerculture has been going through a crisis in the last two years. In a full-blown moral panic, they have been systematically hunted down by the SecretService and have become the focus for hysteria reminiscent of the red scaresof the ’50s. (A time magazine cover from 1988 talked about “The Invasion OfThe Data Snatchers”.) Things began to happen, Shit hit teh fan shall we say… in January 1990 as the Secret Service began to arrest members of The Legion Of Doom and other knowledgeable hackers. LOD, MOD, Napalm, Excess, G0Dz, Chaos+, Acid, Telco1 were some of the most celebrated US hacker groups,on suspicion of having entered the computer systems of the Bell Southcompany. Although in many cases no charges were filed, electronic equipmentand discs were confiscated. things came to a head with “Operation Sun Devil”in May 1990, which involved 28 raids in 14 days; 42 computers and 23,000discs were confiscated, many of which have never been returned. Governmentagents carried out dawn raids on teenage bedrooms across the US, confiscatingcalculators and answerphones. All quite comical. Except things began to getmore serious. Raids became like precision strikes on terrorists and teenagersfound themselves threatened with jail sentences for accessing computersystems with no password, copying files or just being vaguelymischievous. Their offence might have been no more than the electronicequivalent of walking on the grass or breaking and entering, but thepunishment they faced was ten times more severe. FBR Wardialer In addition, the authorities began to target and close down electronicbulletin boards. In the States, there are now boards for every obsessiongoing, every hobby, belief, vice or fagc. So many that regulation of the kindof information being circulated is increasingly difficult. For that reason,it has been argued that the powers that be don’t like the idea of boardsper se. Although a lot of the information that is circulated on some of themore underground boards (how to build bombs, or mix kitchen sink soap for example) is available elsewhere, they feel spooked by the thougth that it can be accessed by anyone with a computer. -They feel particularly spooked by the idea of hacker bulletin boards, and have begun to charge people merely for allowing ‘dangerous information’ to pass through their systems. Hacked Voice-Mail & listed codez. Posted on the Hack boards wHo had special access acker reaction to all this has been varied. After receiving prison sentences for their activities, the majority of the Legion Of Doom have decided to golegit and have set up as Comsec Data Security Corporation, a computerprotection consultancy. Others have taken a campaigning stance reminiscentof the Europeans. The East Coast hacker quarterly 2600, Phrack, Opeum, Sgt News, Black Files, Commodore SEQ Files. 2600 which publishedhardcore hacking info on phreaking and accessing computer networks, has triedto highlight the hypocrisy of the hacker busts. “An individual cannot takea big credit checking corporation like TRW to court because they collectpersonal data on them without his or her permission,” 2600 editor EmmanuelGoldstein comments. “But TRW could claim its privacy was violated if a hackerfigures out how to access their system.” Whats wrong with this picture…Other organisations have been set up to raise concern about civil liberties and freedom of speech, the most high profile being the Blue Boxing, Electronic Frontier Foundation, which was set up by Mitch Kapor, a millionaire software pioneer, along with other big cheeses from the computer industry (including Steve Wozniak of Apple, an ex-phone phreaker), as a direct response to anti-hacking hysteria. A self-confessed hacker/software pirate in the ’70s, Kapor is worried that the current panic may lead to the formation of restrictive regulations which may hamper the development of cyberspace in thefuture. However he isn’t in favour of legalising hacking. He thinks hackersshould still be punished. Although the EFF has had some success in its moves to end Secret Serviceexcesses, not all hackers are happy with the way it draws a line between theold ’60s hackers and modern computer intruders. “There are a lot ofsimilarities between these 15-year-olds who are playing around in corporatecomputers and the 40-year-olds who played around with phones and are nowwriting software somewhere,” comments Emmanuel Goldstein. “They may be legit now, but they weren’t always legitimate”. Goldstein is also sceptical of the ‘cyberpunk’ tag which hackers appropriated from the fiction of William Gibson and Bruce Stierling, dismissing it as a fashion thing. Whilst it may have helped to give hackers a sense of identity, the image of leather-cladanti-social rebels backfired when the authorities started to take itseriosly. Something which places original cyberpunk writers like Bruce Sterling in a tricky position. “I’ve had law enforcement people tell me that if they see acopy of (William Gibson’s) Neuromancer in a kid’s bedroom when they’re doinga raid, they know he’s bad, he’s gone,” he observes. “There are people whouse the word ‘cyberpunk’ as a synonym for computer criminal now. There’slittle that we can do about it really.” Except write a book, somethingSterling decided to do when anti-hacker hysteria reached his home town ofAustin, Texas. The Chicago Computer Fraud and Abuse Task Force seizedhardware and software from a texas SF publisher and made statements to thelocal press that cyberpunks were dangerous. “Being quite well-known as acyberpunk myself, I thought I’d better find out what was going on”. Theresults of his investigations will be published as  The Hacker Crackdown inOctober in the US. As an outsider, Sterling offers a refreshingly sceptical perspective on the scene. Of the  5,000 or so hackers currently practicing in the States, he says the majority are just mischievous teens, electronic joyriders who are more curious than malicious. Most of them don’t hack beyond the age of 22. They get bored and get a life outside of cyberspace. He laughs off the idea thathackers might be seen as radicals. “The idea that these are like fresh-facedidealistic genius kids who are linked arm-in-arm to deal a telling blow tothe establishment is just bullshit. They all hate each other’s guts. Theyturn each other in at the drop of a hat.” Far from being proto-political rebels, he argues that young US hackers are actually political footballs, part of a larger game which is about the future and management of cyberspace. Thats why the rich software entrepreneurs of the Electronic Frontier Foundation have become involved. “The EFF and their civil liberties fellow travellers are an interest group like any other. They shouldn’t be shrouded in this air of ‘Oh they’re old ’60s people, look how idealistic and non-materialistic they are. These guys are pretty sharp operators who’ve made a lot of money in the computer industry, and would now like to get their mouse gripping mitts on some lever of political power thatis consonant with the amount of money they have and the influence they wieldin the business world”. A cynic might argue that the EFF aren’t just concerned with the  freedom of speech. They really want to make sure that in the heat of hacker hysteria, a set of excessive laws don’t get passed which might restrict their business operations in the future. This kind of thing is only to be expected, since as Sterling says, the electronic community is expanding daily. In the rush to go digital, hackers may even find themselves sidelined. “Every aspect ofsociety is moving into electronic networking and that includes hippies,criminals, lawyers, politicians, bikers, knitting societies, even cops. Copshave their own bulletin boards now. There are hacker cops(bad). All thesesubcultures and sub-groups are moving in, and in a while what was once calledhacker culture may get swamped by other kinds of electronic bohemia.” US hackers may have acted as the pioneers of the new electroniclandscape. But like the real pioneers who first explored the American West,they may find it difficult to find a foothold in the new communities theyhelped to create. The simple thing is to go in to business for the peoplethey formerly thought of as the enemy. Alternatively they could band togetherin informal vaguely politicised pressure groups like the Europeans. But theyneed to update their act. Otherwise they could even wind up a dyingbreed. “In the end the thing about American hackers that’ll kill them off isthat they’re  dilettantes,” Sterling concludes.

          “They’re not getting any money for this. They’re doing it for free, because it’s like a cool subculture do.  They’re doing it for power and knowledge. But anything these jerk-offs can do for power and knowledge, a real operator can do for a lotof money.” -MORE>> Mad Hatter and The Inter Circle. Wired Article. 
          Newsgroups, NewsBIN, EFNet, Hacking AOLl, Underworld Story Released >>MORE 

    • guest

      you’ve never been a pirate, you retard. Unless you’re 12 years old, then all is forgiven.

    • wicked1

      If you want to know the truth, I hate it too.  The problem is getting an editor isn’t cheap for a book of this type.  FOIA requests to the FBI are also expensive as hell.  Combine it with the face I have to pay for everything including physical copies of the book means the numbers are getting out of hand fairly quick.

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    TorrentFreak SUCKS now with this new DISQUS crap.

    Looking back on previous articles the “attachments” are broken. HAHA. Click them and they say …

    “You broke TorrentFreak!!!”

    THIS TOTALLY SUCKS!

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    Do an AMA on Reddit

  • dididave

    PMSL-Just how many young pirates are on here ???
    Have not heard of Centropy !!!!! You must be young to have not heard of them or you were living on a different planet.
    Take it from an old timer Centropy were the best in there time and to be honest there releases are far far better then some of the crap we see released today .
    If you downloaded a Centropy release you just knew it was going to be worth it and as most of the uk was still on dailup or at the best 0.5mb adsl we realy did need to know what we were getting so not to waste so much time .
    Many thanks to Centropy for all the great releases you gave us …CDDVDHeaven DIDIDave iShare

    • Joker

      I had 1 Mbps broadband back in 2002 with Blueyonder. It must have sucked not living in a cable area.

  • Anonymous

    Brings back memories of my days with Paradox, Crystal, FLT, Skid Row, etc. (back in the 16-bit days), parents freaking out about me making phone calls across Europe (BBSs, etc)… and years later helping some FXP boards use [redacted] servers rather than pub FTPs which eventually were frequent honeypot traps.

    As for Centropy… didn’t they appear around the time that FXP boards were used for distribution, I remember seeing Fairlight (early 1990s) around a decade before I’d seen Centropy on the scene… maybe I was just too focussed on the gaming side of things?!

  • YARIGHT

    when the drink or die raids happened 
    two things
     i logged into a top site to warn the “sceners” still going and let them know a major hacker working for them was popped and was still loggin in to topsites

    the second was a lord of the rings release by centropy i got right after the raids off the topsite
    with 3 cdrs 
    fuck.fbi
    die.fbi
    kill.fbi

    an as to axxo well he wasnt ever scene but gave you p2p’ers a taste of what its all about i was also member of his website and he seemed to release when i did
    btw what the scene does as sd.x264 ive been doing since 2004
    us hackers are that far ahead of you always….

    • ZarathustrA

      You call encoding hacking? That’s worse than calling people who download video game trainers hackers.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like a pretty cool lifestyle to me dude. Wow.
    Anon-Bits.tk

  • Baba

    I do remember back in the early 2000′s and being on irc trying to find proper scene groups but was always met with silence, it would be interesting to read a bit more of this and see how things really were.

    Would it be wrong if I waited for the book to release then pirate it? ;p

  • Stinky

    WHAT A SCAM! Raising “funds” to write a book? All it takes to write a book is a pencil and some paper!

    THIS GUY IS A CON-ARTIST!!!

  • D@||G3R

    F.B.I. Pay 4 it Now ! !

  • ViTALiTY

    I have donated some.

    Not much, but some. Hope it helps.

  • Anonymous

    I can only assume that, in the spirit of sharing, this book in its entirety will be available for free to anyone who wants to read it?  Ideally, a couple weeks before the official release date (surely you’ll encourage the kickstarter backers to see to this)?

  • Rboy

    I remember back in the days how exciting it was to get on a good ftp that had all the good stuff. I would be interested in this book despite the negative comments. I respect all those that are willing to risk prison to bring us all the releases.

  • Anonymous

    “I’ll wait for the Centropy”

    He has his head so far up his arse, that I would wait for the Centropy copy to view it.

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  • JustAnotherGuy

    Wow, you’re definitely breaking the “don’t talk” code that was usual in the scene. You’re not afraid of retaliations?

    • wicked1

      If the scene is using the same practices to secure itself as it did when I was in it, then everyone deserves to get busted honestly. I’m not in the market to give up names of people or anything like that. I’m much more interested telling the story of how a bunch of us were busted by the FBI.

  • BSNeverEnds

    So this homo is trying to make money off for being an ex-criminal? friggin typical… Ya I used to upload/download movies illegally and now I am just like Sammy the bull, ex-hitman for the mafia and writing the book about it and hoping some dumbasses would buy it on amazon. You know what, just for the hell of it, we’ll pirate your dumbass book. How about that? Biatch!

  • http://twitter.com/Itr0ll Pat Patterson

    lol hardware supplier and curry?

    this guy was lowwww level. getting leech ona topsite is like level 1 into the scene.. racing…. come on.

    only reason u were there was because u supplied hardware and kew how to idle in a ssl irc chatroom.

    you were not a membe of entropy, you were a slave to entropy.

    dont brag plz

  • HooKarez

    Yawn.

  • Derrick

    i remember xvid cant say i remember centropy, but then i was never a big fan or vcd or cams rips.

  • Kk

    I guess we’ll be able to download this book once it comes out and he wouldn’t mind would he?

  • Hush

    I would like to read this. Although, the $10,000 goal to fund it is absolutely absurd.

  • Korax

    wicked1 long time no talk, this is korax.
     

  • -=-=-=-

    hello. Long time no see.. say hi to our buddy dact, have you seen nebs too?

    ill be in touch. were also working on a book/movie too.
    let us know if you want to collaborate.

    zzzz
    -=-=-=-=

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