Comments on: IFPI: 2.8 Million File-Sharers Break Law Daily In Sweden

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Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:22:41 +0000

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Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:12:31 +0000

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Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:16:39 +0000

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By: Daniel

Daniel — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:35:11 +0000

What’s humourous about this is it proves that pursuing legal actions against file sharers is impossible. What really needs to be developed is some legal easy way for such actions to happen. This is all part of the revolution of the internet. Rejoice, for change is good. This will bring about so many good things, I just wish everyone would get past the stigma of “it is wrong” and focus on “how can we make this okay/acceptable?”

By: TRYER

TRYER — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:40:50 +0000

Ages 15 to 74. That isn’t a statistic, that’s a good guess. And they were trying to be nice. Try more like 10 to 65.

I would like to see them try and use that survey in court.

By: pbp

pbp — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:33:27 +0000

“According to new research carried out by music group IFPI, around 40% of Swedes between 15 and 74 illegally share files every single day. ”

Yeah, lots of 73 year old Swedes listen to illegally downloaded speedmetal.

By: ilold

ilold — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:26:54 +0000

@reasoned

how the f can you compare speeding on a highway with sharing music & movies? dont u know one is dangerous and another one is culture??

reason some more nascar boy

By: OPP

OPP — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:36:14 +0000

The most embarrasing part of IFPI’s numbers and surveys is that, with their own logic, 40% of swedes sharing files illegaly must mean that neaither the music industry nor the movie or gaming industry can be macing any money, seeing that those who can use a computer or a remote controle for a television knows how to file-share.

By: Reasoned *

Reasoned * — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:34:42 +0000

Here’s an insight for those who say it can’t be a law if millions break it: 99.9999999(repeating)% of Americans speed on the highway. The speed limit is and always will be 70-75 MPH. Yet everyone will do 80 as long as the cops aren’t looking, when they do 65.

For most filesharers right now, smuggling copyrighted content over the interwebz, the cops aren’t looking. Or they are too busy racing down the information superhighway after an 18 wheeler full of files, with copies of them flying around and sometimes hitting your little Prius.

They’re on a high speed chase after the big file sharers. And they aren’t even writing down your tag number when they race by.

By: Reasoned *

Reasoned * — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:26:11 +0000

@71

The USA only cares about workers in china. Without them, we would have no cheap stuff at wal-mart to buy.

By: omfg

omfg — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:12:18 +0000

why dont they start a national referendum ? 40% of all the people ? thats way enough to make it into a law

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:18:58 +0000

So let me get this straight: By its own admission, IFPI is trying to eliminate rights from 40% of the population.

Here’s a thought: They’ve gone out of their way to remind everyone that these are people who fileshare EVERY SINGLE DAY – What about the people who only do it once a month, a couple times a year?

I’d bet that the annual number of file sharers is well north of 50% of the Swedish population, and that the number of copyright infringers (of any sort) is above 90%.

With this being the case, it’s time for Swedish people to stand up and make it a ballot issue. The rest of the world is ready to follow you – just lead the way!

By: nobody, actually

nobody, actually — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:07:29 +0000

is that why i can’t connect to my relakks-vpn-account? :-(

By: Darth_Tater

Darth_Tater — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:02:30 +0000

IFPI
Italian Fascist

See:
copyriot.se/2008/04/08/what-the-ifpi-tries-to-conceal-about-its-origins-in-fascist-italy/

They edited there own WIKI to hide this.

By: lsc

lsc — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:26:40 +0000

Time to teach my younger siblings the finer things about internet brb ;)

By: me

me — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:03:07 +0000

Wow, there’s a lot of potential growth for Sweden’s PP in there… provided that IFPI continues its arm twisting tactics to “criminalize” the mainstream.

By: warsystems » IFPI: 2.8 Million File-Sharers Break Law Daily In Sweden

warsystems » IFPI: 2.8 Million File-Sharers Break Law Daily In Sweden — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:54:54 +0000

[...] TorrentFreak According to new research carried out by music group IFPI, around 40% of Swedes between 15 and 74 illegally share files every single day. The research, carried out through a web survey, reveals that there are 2.8 million sharers in the group, an increase compared to earlier surveys. Comment this post [...]

By: NoSympathy

NoSympathy — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:35:18 +0000

@A Victim…

By not spending money on crap that should be dirt cheap, they’re going to become a 3rd world country?

WTF are you smoking?

Remind me… which country’s currency is tanking globally?

Oh yes, the country where people are encouraged moreso than any other nation.. to consume crap they do not need! ;)

By: NoSympathy

NoSympathy — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:26:08 +0000

THE SOLUTION:

Change the law so that it fits in with the wishes of “we the people”, the majority.

(Rather than just the wishes of the wealthiest.)

By: Adam Sandford

Adam Sandford — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:06:20 +0000

So swedes are a bunch of childish criminals? What exactly si this meant to prove?
Go back 100 years or so and find that “Millions of Americans routinely own slaves”
Guess we should have kept slavery, coz everyone woz doing it right?

By: Kickass_Sid

Kickass_Sid — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:52:38 +0000

Well it is natural that the promotion made by the lawsuits popularized p2p.

By: Kickass_Sid

Kickass_Sid — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:51:52 +0000

Well it is natural that

By: Happy Monday

Happy Monday — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:45:14 +0000

‘Spotify dead within a year’ – according to Record industry executive.

http://www.swedishwire.com/business/1221-spotify-dead-within-a-year

By: Think

Think — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:30:41 +0000

Someone seems to miss a point, what’s the BIG difference between listening music on your PC from an internet radio or TV station and listening the same music from an mp3, do you see any difference ?

By: Just some guy

Just some guy — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:55:57 +0000

40% of population actively sharing files.

That should mean the entertainment industry in Sweden has collapsed. Or has it?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:36:08 +0000

“When the pirates are all serving lengthy custodial sentences the record labels will become profitable again. It’s simple math.”

Yep! May be the dogs who could not be arrested because too nasty might still buy music unless they all decide to attack the records label exec and chop off their winy in lieu of hot dog. He! these thing need a lot of food!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:24:58 +0000

Even my dog is sharing!

Come and try to sue my dog!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:22:43 +0000

“All this article tells me is that Sweden is a rogue country that cares nothing about the rights of workers in other countries.”

and then USA, Canada, Mexico, France, England, Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Finland, Austria, Spain, Portugal, China, India, Newfoundland, Australia, Monaco, Mozambique, Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, Russia. . . . . . . . . . . .

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:17:03 +0000

“It’s much more complex than X amount of people are file-sharers, meaning that X amount don’t buy their content.”

Nobody should buy their content. Those that do are just lengthening their death. This make it more painfull for their victims.

It is like germs. you have to wipe them out with a big dose of antibiotic followed by lower doses for long enough to make sure they don’t come back.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:23 +0000

With this army of 2.8 million soldiers we are going to flaten the 7 corporations of criminals and put all these criminals executives, judges and lawers in jail for the rest of their life!

Mark my world!

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By: hmmm

hmmm — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:50:25 +0000

The next big thing to be written in every country’s Constitution is to forbid the use of statistics in non-mathematical publications.

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By: slipitin

slipitin — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:43:14 +0000

millions cannot break laws. those laws are de facto dead and need to be eliminated.

that’s it, problem solved

By: adda

adda — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:25:02 +0000

This just in!

By: Wulfgar

Wulfgar — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:20:15 +0000

There I was completely wasting, out of work and down
All inside its so frustrating as I drift from town to town
Feel as though nobody cares if I live or die
So I might as well begin to put some action in my life

Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law

So much for the golden future, I cant even start
Ive had every promise broken, theres anger in my heart
You dont know what its like, you dont have a clue
If you did youd find yourselves doing the same thing too

Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law

You dont know what its like

By: Soundwave (Have A Cigar)

Soundwave (Have A Cigar) — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:10:02 +0000

It’s over 9000

By: TheTruth

TheTruth — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:38:02 +0000

The entertainment mafia has changed its strategy. They know they’ve lost the war on file-sharing so now they are fighting for a “Culture Flatrate”. The more file-sharing people there are (according to statistics) the more money per person they will demand. This would allow the content mafia to survive and keep on stealing money that belongs to the artists. The content mafia must be eradicated before we ever agree to a Culture Flatrate!

By: A Victim

A Victim — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:00:15 +0000

All this article tells me is that Sweden is a rogue country that cares nothing about the rights of workers in other countries. They will try to stay alive by stealing the innovative works from other countries. In the end, they will lose their innovative spirit and become a third-world country.

By: prodigydancer

prodigydancer — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:52:39 +0000

Go Sweden!
3m today – 7m tomorrow!

By: Reasoned *

Reasoned * — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:45:46 +0000

Why hasn’t the entertainment industry there crashed yet?

Maybe we should rethink what piracy actually does to the music industry. It’s much more complex than X amount of people are file-sharers, meaning that X amount don’t buy their content.

By: Sweden

Sweden — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:16:46 +0000

“It is important to arrange all filesharers to jail for 2 years”
Ludvig Werner, chairman of IFPI Sweden, told AFP.

By: the guy who came on Reasoned Mind's face

the guy who came on Reasoned Mind's face — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:47:45 +0000

Oops, I got him in the eye.

Again.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:34:39 +0000

I’m curious to know the definition of “shares”.

If the question posted on the survey was “do you use P2P” to share files then the real number probably is higher as people use e-mails, IMs, flash memory cards, storage sites, FTP, news groups, BBS(this is old and still people use it) and other means.

By: StevO

StevO — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:34:22 +0000

I will quit downloading when i can get a refund on the junk I have bought in the past. I can get a refund on a poor tasting meal. I can get a return on poorly sewn clothing. Bu tyet I cant get a refund on a poorly written book, or a poorly made movie, or CD or game. Whats the difference?

By: One

One — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:18:41 +0000

People break laws everyday, not just copyright infringement. This article is ridiculous.

Besides 15 – 74? lol, I don’t know a single person over the age of 60 that can operate a computer properly and let alone know how to use torrents or an p2p app.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:16:41 +0000

Ars has a good article about the 100 years whining(chipmunk style) of the industry and how the rhetoric just keep the same monotonous tone over the years.

And the interesting part is that, all innovation greatly benefited the industry and none of that innovation came from the industry, they just use what others discover.

Came to think about it, Those big names in the industry are all self-made people. Most of them hit it big on their own without help from the industry and then got into it. They were mostly indies. that struggle to make it and that struggle was what made them good.

Why do we need a music industry anyway, their success rate is something like one digit percentile and that is no better then chance they don’t make artists they buy those that are good.

Ever heard of a label or studio that had an R&D sector to help develop new technologies for the coming years? They don’t innovate they hold society back.

By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:43:48 +0000

We’ve all read Reasoned Mind’s poorly written and poorly reasoned troll posts; they’re nothing to be proud of.

By: Reasoned Mind

Reasoned Mind — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:26:29 +0000

Any here who think these RM posts are by the genuine ReasonedMind haven’t been reading TF long enough to see through the poorly constructed ruse.

The real RM may not agree with us. But he’s far better spoken on the issues than these morons. lol