you are getting real good, dude

well done

And that’s how much they are genuinely hated.

Any organization reaching a major anniversary would be proud of this fact, with press releases, interviews and celebration. The IFPI hasn’t said anything about reaching its 75th birthday. Instead, one of their staff has edited their Wikipedia page to…

Believe me I’m not oblivious to your position. I could see me saying much the same thing if in a similar position.

The BPI had it right in ways when they said file-sharing is (or has become, which isn’t really true, as it’s always been…) too easy. It is really, and it’s apparent presupposed levels of morality just don’t cut it as an effective regulator of your ‘consumer’ habits.

As much as you might like to preserve aspects of your old established systems, if they’re proving non-viable in the new enviroment then they need to adapt or die. You can’t roll back time to before change ocurred (the evolution of technology), you can only evolve along with it. You could strive for technological solutions, new laws, education, and so on if you believe they’ll help, though personally I’m less than confident any of these will revert things back to your liking.

That they are all gay-people, and only want to steal my money for some shitty record! FUCK YOU IFPI! You can lick my balls and THEN I´ll give you 2 cent…

Nice day to the rest og you :-)

/Pantonamia[/quote]

Homophobe.

Also I don’t aim for the path of least resistance as you do (and suggest everyone does)… I aim for the path of personal moral choice. Which isn’t to say yours is any worse or better… I just believe that if you’re a fan of a band than it’s worth giving something back.[/quote]

Most people want to give something back to the band. I want to pay for some of the music I have downloaded. But I can’t. There’s no way I can contact the band to give them money.

Why can this be done?

Also I don’t aim for the path of least resistance as you do (and suggest everyone does)… I aim for the path of personal moral choice. Which isn’t to say yours is any worse or better… I just believe that if you’re a fan of a band than it’s worth giving something back.

Point is that you’re not producing the media are you?

It’s not a hard pill for me to swallow. I still make plenty of money in the music business, just that the recorded sector is dying. And more and more people are getting out of it. You’ll see the effect soon. You’re right, nobody owes me anything. But the same logic applies that artists don’t owe you shit. And at a certain point why should they bother to lose money on something so everyone can have it for free.

It’s not doom-saying, it’s pointing out that the environment will be what you make it. You don’t want to support, people don’t owe you shit. And knee-jerk reactions like the ones on this board to what is pretty much a non-relevant article about anything happening today in music is symptomatic of the the fact that everyone’s just looking for excuses to justify their greed for the most part.

So I say it again… before you go and paint the music business as greedy… look at your habits first.

I aim for what I desire via the path of least resistance. Who doesn’t?

Why should I *care* about what YOU want? The world is, and quite contrary to your doomsayer beliefs, awash with media. I’d argue there’s never been more media available out there than there is right now (thanks in no small part to the internet and file-sharers). Why should I care about supporting a few dying ends incapable of existing in the current enviroment? It might be a hard pill to swallow, but nobody owes you anything. People like you want control for personal gain and you’re upset because you’re finding it too hard to attain.

“Erasing it from the history books” is not a moot point. It’s the reason why we don’t learn from history. There might be some reason to cover up a fascist past to suppress the polarization of a society. But as we see in Spain, Greece and some countries in South America it takes decades to consolidate a society, after covering up fascism.

An organisation has no bearing at all to botch with history books. It’s not theirs to scribble or wipe. The history book is ours.

And yes, I really honestly believe they should bring it up. They had time enough. They should have brought it up long ago. There was no need to wait for an anniversary. Now, someone else brought it up*). How stupid of a corporate strategist are you allowed to be to get a job at IFPI? Do you really honestly believe it’s good enough to pay some pawns to edit the wikipedia? Alone the idea you could “erase” something when there is internet is foolish.

*) Thanks Copyriot and Torrentfreak. Good work.

P.S.
I posted not the link I wanted to in the last comment. This here should be the original ( http://www.vaniercollege.qc.ca/Auxiliary/Psychology/Frank/Thirdwave.html ) of “The Third Wave”.

It took you 5 minutes to write that non-topical diatribe? What did you do, go through 2 drafts before writing the final or something?

What’s more greedy and sketchy at the end of the day. An industry of people that for the most part is made up of people working insane hours and investing personal risk into advancing art and culture…

Or a group of people with a misguided entitlement complex to the fact that they should receive all the end results of that for free based on reasons that for the most part are completely false, hyperbole, or based on the fact they paint an entire view of an industry with the same brush.

I’ve owned an indie record label for 15 years. Trust me, there’s great records you’re not hearing because it makes no financial sense to back them anymore. Why should I or the artist lose money? It makes more sense to license a song to a commercial and just listen to the album ourselves. We’re not obligated to release it or share it with anyone.

Anyway, I’ve broken my 5 minute rule of don’t bother trying to explain it… but there you go. I should also say that I don’t approve of the actions of a lot of trade bodies either and there heavy handed approach… so really all I’m saying is… support art or it disappears.

On another note. I hear that the U.S used to believe in slavery. Please bring this fact up whenever one of the southern states celebrates a birthday.

Douchbag.

Italy was run by a fascist government. Get over it. Companies worked for the government that happen to be around today. Get over it. If I was the president of the IFPI I would be ashamed too. Doesn’t mean he is evil. (wrong, not evil)

Pizza is famously thought to come from Italy. Pizza is as relevant today as it was back in fascist Italy.

Get the fuck over yourself. And start to report some real news you moron.[/quote]

Fascism is not a sad footnote in history. It’s alive today, because we all have the potential for it. Teach your people a concept of someone or something that evokes feelings of hatred or fear. Find a leader, throw in some nationalism, some populism and use Newspeak and you are on your way.

If you get over it, you are specially susceptible because you start to turn a blind eye. You can read up on how easy it is to become a fascist in “The Third Wave” ( http://www.ronjoneswriter.com/wave.html ). It’s a 2-3 page summary of a teacher and his class who tried fascism as a history lesson.

If the IFPI attempts to bury their roots during a fascist climate that can only mean that they themselves think it is still relevant today. They should spend their money to do proper research of where they come from. It would help the public to understand how fascism is not over when we don’t speak about it anymore. It lives on in organisations, where a corporate statement is all there is as a reason to exist and self-criticism would hurt the business.

http://copyriot.se/2008/04/08/what-the-ifpi-tries-to-conceal-about-its-origins-in-fascist-italy/

Indians getting free money, Jews getting checks from people who’s grandfathers happened to be nazis,
Ancestors of slaves getting reparations.

Italy was run by a fascist government. Get over it. Companies worked for the government that happen to be around today. Get over it. If I was the president of the IFPI I would be ashamed too. Doesn’t mean he is evil. (wrong, not evil)

Pizza is famously thought to come from Italy. Pizza is as relevant today as it was back in fascist Italy.

Get the fuck over yourself. And start to report some real news you moron.[/quote]

Are 75 year old pizza companies (a) celebrating their diamond anniversaries or (b) going to extreme lengths to conceal such?

The point wasn’t that they once dealt with fascists; it was that they erased it from the history books.

That _was_ real news & _you_ are the moron.

HTH
HAND
kthxbai

Wikipedia page re-edited – balance redressed. =]

P.S. “In March 2008, a Seattle court sentenced a man to four years in prison in the first Federal case against someone using file-sharing software to steal identities. Gregory Kopiloff had used the software to search users’ computers for personal financial documents which he used to commit aggravated identity theft to support drug and gambling addictions.”

LMFAO!

Indians getting free money, Jews getting checks from people who’s grandfathers happened to be nazis,
Ancestors of slaves getting reparations.

Italy was run by a fascist government. Get over it. Companies worked for the government that happen to be around today. Get over it. If I was the president of the IFPI I would be ashamed too. Doesn’t mean he is evil. (wrong, not evil)

Pizza is famously thought to come from Italy. Pizza is as relevant today as it was back in fascist Italy.

Get the fuck over yourself. And start to report some real news you moron.

Combining a ‘good read’ with historical content (& well-researched source matériel) made for a most interesting article.

=]

[quote]Any company, firm or person producing sound recordings or music videos which are made available to the public in reasonable quantities is eligible for membership of IFPI. In those countries where there is a national group of IFPI or an affiliated organisation, potential members should first join the national body before seeking membership of IFPI.[/quote]

I do qualify for membership of IFPI. I’ll become a member and eat them up from the inside like a maggot.

IFPI = International Fascism Preservation Institution

They want to cause a torrent site holocaust. Fight for your freedoms, free the music.

“IFPI – 75 years of failing”

I went through the torrentfreak archives to dig up some context for the dates stated in the article. August 25th 2006 was right after TPB released their first movie “Steal This Film” and the MAFIAA had a lot of bad press. The RIAA sued a dead man, the BPI mistreated children, the MPAA did not go after Gates, who admitted in the Wall Street Journal that he watched pirated movies. This came of course all in the wake of the disasterous failure against TPB and the rise of the pirates.

I think “revisionist bastards!” is in order.

How fast things can change. Of course this does not apply to companies which have had several major makeovers, change of laws, business models, and so on.

oh, and he has a message for them as well: ” Rot in hell you greedy dipshits.” – God

Oh and were gonna sue all you guys.. just because we can.. and you owe us 4.2 billion.. bye now.

- IFPI
‘Dont even THINK about file sharing’

That they are all gay-people, and only want to steal my money for some shitty record! FUCK YOU IFPI! You can lick my balls and THEN I´ll give you 2 cent…

Nice day to the rest og you :-)

/Pantonamia

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15531

Here is the ORIGINAL, WELL-RESEARCHED ifpi article on Wikipedia, not the crap we have there now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IFPI&direction=prev&oldid=12494615

http://www.ezee.se/

Clearly thats the case.