Whats more it leads a dangerous trend in censorship that i would not be willing to pay for.

Fat fucking middle men protecting “their” copyrights

Also, it appears I cocked up the quote tag.

Looks like eircom refused to put limiting software on their servers. Good for them.

He said legal actions brought against individuals with a high number of illegal files on their computers at specific times were very costly and time consuming.

NO! Really?!

Many fair points made in your post, I dont agree with all your conclusions perhaps but very nice post all the same, cheers.

I apprecieate you truly sharing what you have through takin a loss from running your site. If your not making any income from it, can’t blame you for what you do than homie!

However, I think you may be in the minority, as most torrent and free download sites I’ve seen have TONS of ads Flying everywhere (like pop-ups and what not). I know there are blogs that pormote stuff for free, but even most of them have a “Donate” button listed either at the top or the side of there pages.

All I’m saying is that if something is truly shared, if the server that is hosting the file is not collecting income (Like paying for faster downloads, Ads, Donation buttons, and the like) then hey, the entertainment industry can’t hold a candle to that, as that proves the the files truly are shared!! But if passive income is made from the traffic that the promise of getting free files brings to the website, than I beleave it is only right that the content creator gets a share of the money, however little that may be.

And to Alan, I hear you dude, LOUD and CLEAR!! And I agree! The internet has made more millionares and at the same time destroyed whole industrys, so there is good with the bad. But be careful when you contribute to the complete destruction of an industry, because with that goes jobs (Even the ones that are passively made from the success of a product, intellectual and hardware!), which means people get poorer, which means more and more people complain about shit being “to high” and justifiing there reason to steal.

Look, I’m not saying people won’t do it anyway when the oppurtunity presents itself. Hell, riots throughout history will tell you that most people had more fun takin shit out the stores when they broke the front door glass. Alot of times it was more about gettin’ shit free than it was about the “cause”, so yeah, human nature is FUCKED UP!! But that is what society is about Alan UK, to provide the structure and stableness to allow people to do what they love, make a profit off of it, and create more jobs in return and helping the economy as a whole! (Excluding govt’ taxation, thats a whole nother’ beast!!)

The rebels in Dufar (I think thats how its spelled, but you know what I mean) Call there cause a “Revolution”, justifying the mass genocide of thousands of people. Yet in the end, it only justifys the destruction of a countrys system for the transference of wealth, meanly the control of diamonds!

The evolution of society and economy has gotton so that EVERYONE in this nation gets a chance to make a living doing what they love, as long as there is a demand for the product and no one gets hurt in the process, that what the american economy is SUPPOSEDLY all about, which is the reason why forigners are still tryin to get into this country now!

I agree the entertainment industry needs to adapt. But I don’t think you guys really want the industry to go down in flames (By industry I mean artist, in whateva way possible, making some type of compensation for there work). Alot of your favorite musicians and even some people in non-musical positions took alot of time and effort to get into the position that there in. They give jobs to the manegers, bus charter services, caterers, recording studios, software providers, music equipment stores, live venue workers, etc.

I hear what your saying: “Who GIVES A FUCK? I Work at Blank-ka-ti-Blank (fill in whateva job you work at) spot, that shit don’t effect me, ADAPT OR DIE, HAHAHAHAH!!!)

Ummm, thats true, for now! But think of it this way, its not like your killing these people off the face of the earth, so there still there when the industry goes down! And guess what? Now there eyeing YOUR JOB, because less jobs create MORE competition for what remains, standards go up, and now your working even harder to KEEP your job that pays you SHIT CHANGE for the work you do anyway!! Adapt or die? That shits gonna be changed to Suffer or Die if you guys keep thinking only of NOW and not the Future. (Not speaking to u alan, just in general!)

whoo, I typed a alot of shit! Kinda hard to make that kind of point in one paragraph!! Forgive me if you were to impatient to read all of that guys, had to get my point across!!

We run at a loss on purpose so that when folks like yourself fly out to attack filesharing I can take a place also on the moaral highground, now as equals in routing out greed can you show me your site if you have one or in fact anything you do online for free to help others ?

The reason I,m asking this is simply because I didnt notice your posts of protest when the artists and songwriters where getting shafted a short while ago, why could this be ?

Could it be you have an agenda of your own ?

The horse has bolted. Too late to lock the stable door. Right or wrong, copyrighted files are being shared. Asking the millions of file sharers to stop isn’t going to achieve anything. The internet is heralding a revolution. From music, films, blogs etc., the whole media landscape is undergoing an unpredictable seismic shift. Can anyone accurately predict the outcome?

Regards.

Thought it might be worth mentioning at this point, that this is a P2P news website without any downloadable content at all…

But nice rant anyway.

Do you guys really have any idea how this website can exist in the first place?

Oh, thats rights, it takes MONEY to run a site like this and keep it running over the LONG HAUL!!

Don’t beleave me? Try searching for a torrent, try reading an article, without avoiding contact with ads on the side of every page on the torrent sites, including this one.

Those ads on the side of THIS website are called Goggle Adsense. Basically, everytime someone clicks on the ad, the website owner gets PAID from goggle!! And if its not goggle adsense, most of the torrent websites (Like pirate bay) are charging for adspace, selling there custormer base (which is likely in ages ranging from 13 to 35 or something like that) to potential ad buyers hoping to get more income from custormers like you who download content, illegal and legal.

So yes, it is pirating, not file sharing, because at the end of the day, the website owner is making a profit off the potentialy thousands of visitors that come here everyday to download content!

It would benifit Ernesto and others who run similar sites to tell you guys that its not bad when you download whatever, because it keeps the flow of Business going. But last time I check, I don’t see him breaking his neck to pay the content creators a portion of the goggle check he recieves every month, if wrong, please inform me.

No, I don’t think its right to sue people directly for the file sharing, but I do think if the content providers who are providing the content for free without regulation are making money from it somehow someway, then someone should get payed. Otherwise, your even WORST than the record company, YOU ARE THE NEW RECORD/MOVIE/BOOK COMPANY, because you bring people in the provide the content, some click on ads, goggle or whoever pays you, and you get to keep ALL the MOLA!! THATS GANGSTA!!

Then you feed the fire by egging people on to justify there downloading and making it seem “cool” to get shit for free, calling it “Human Nature”, making it seem easy and moral, all benefiting you and the torrent site industry (which by the way folks, is an industry as well, because there sites make money selling AD SPaCE). I think its brilliant, but BOGUS as HELL!!

So in a nut shell, you LET PEOPLE, and I repeat, YOU LET PEOPLE put copyrighted material on your server, they download it, word speads, more people come to your site, you get high rankings in goggle meaning even MORE people come to your site, which means even MORE people to click/or use to sell ad space to other folks. And in the end, you make some MOLA!! NICE!!!

But how much money does the content provider get???? I REST MY CASE. I don’t blame people for downloading shit. I blame cats like you for contributing for calling out and promoting the greed of the BIG WIGS when, with a little thinking, I see your in this for the money too. And really, I don’t blame the RIAA for doing what there doing, because all you guys are really doing is fighting over the potential future income the intellectual content could bring, except the record/movie/publishers/ARITSTS want to make money directly, and you want to make money PASSIVELY!! Wanna prove me wrong? Take down the ADS, then we can consider it sharing and not Stealing!! Up for the challange?? ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!! Please prove me wrong??

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The IFPI has no control or membership from film studios, why are they trying to argue this point. Ditto with regards to ISP’s bandwidth. What do they care about how anyone is using their own bandwidth. The IFPI is not in the ISP business or the movie business. Its like asking someone why they are doing carwheels and them answering “because I like ice cream.”

It’s sad to see that the IFPI try to censor the internet, simply because they are UNABLE to adapt their own business-model to a dynamic and changing world.

Congratelations IFPI, Himmler would’ve been proud…

Only *economic* terrorists? You’re going too easy on them. The IFPI, RIAA, and MPAA are *all around* terrorists, by the definition of very the word itself.

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there will be another civil war in America before my life is over.[/quote]

Heh, no way.

The collective American people are in too deep of a coma for anything like that to ever happen. The fact that there aren’t mass protests rioting in the streets, demanding the abolishment of the Electoral College, is proof alone that most Americans would rather sit on their asses watching the latest “reality” TV bullshit and reading tabloids, then even think about faulting their own government. For anything.

The closest you’re ever – EVER – gonna see to a second civil war, is minor paradigm shifts in the status quo.

The same holds true for every First World country, and essentially most Second World countries, too, I’d say.

If this court case is lost another should be launched using this as a base against the Big Media economic terrorists.

I have no idea what the Irish equivalent of the “interception of communications” act is but I,m sure it can be leveraged for use in this case also as voip users would be protected under its descriptive definition.

Dont run and hide folks call “Liberty” in Ireland and get something set up to back Eircomm in their fight, perhaps formulate an “Amicus brief” as the EFF do in the US cases that affect privacy and public rights.

Dont let apathy win.

All I can say is, I’m happy I’m on BT.

THAT’S EXACTLY THE SAME.

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I am not paying lot’s of money to check my e-mail and read online news.

This might be the end of several ISPs if they have to block torrent traffic.[/quote]

SAME HERE.

As for the MPAA, no one wants to sit through a movie where people are rude, talk on cell phones, act like complete idiots, have young kids running around, screaming, laser pointers, and who can forget the 1/2 hour of commercials and previews.

If any ISP tries to block access to any site from my ISP, that is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Unfortunately in this case, the ISP looses either way.

Shouldn’t private cars be illegal ? I never charge a friend when I drive him somewhere, or when I shop for my parents and transport their goods. Am I a road pirate ? If I buy a faster car, I’ll even overcome more those transportation or cabs companies !!! I am a danger for the whole Road Economy !

So, I can’t wait to see transportation companies go to court, demanding people to remove their cars from the streets !
Did I mention that traffic jams slow down exchanges ?

IFPI or how to use ridiculous sophisms.

tell me about it when u got busted,how it’s like to be arrested for selling pirated dvd in your country.

and what happened to the IRA ?
didnt see them in news for quiet a while…

Send ME your donations. I need it more!

Also, whilst we’re on the subject, I’m sick of record label and film companies equating estimates of pirate downloads with lost revenue. That’s absurd. People download far more than they would ever (or could afford to ever) legally buy.

The only way forward is unlimited DRM free content downloadable whenever you want it for a monthly subscription. That is what will happen once the companies wake up to the fact their business model of selling digital content is unsustainable when digital content can so easily be distributed online.

I sent a bit of abuse to the cunts there just to make me feel better, worked well.

Either way it wont stop me using p2p, nobody will!!