Comments on: IFPI Loses Another P2P ‘Wireless Defense’ Case

By: ¿Puede Telefónica desconectar a los usuarios que comparten WiFi?

¿Puede Telefónica desconectar a los usuarios que comparten WiFi? — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:08:23 +0000

[...] han dado ya varios casos en los que el usuario denunciado por compartir material protegido ha sido exculpado gracias a que [...]

By: ISP Disconnects Customers with Open WiFi : The BB Network

ISP Disconnects Customers with Open WiFi : The BB Network — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:56:32 +0000

[...] having an unsecured wireless router creates plausible deniability. In recent months, we have seen several cases where accused filesharers have successfully argued that someone else may have used their WiFi to [...]

By: ISP Disconnects Customers with Open WiFi | InstantIdiocy

ISP Disconnects Customers with Open WiFi | InstantIdiocy — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:45:44 +0000

By: ISP Disconnects Customers with Open WiFi | Torrent Searcher News

ISP Disconnects Customers with Open WiFi | Torrent Searcher News — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:37:42 +0000

By: ISP Disconnects Customers with Open WiFi | TorrentFreak

ISP Disconnects Customers with Open WiFi | TorrentFreak — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:46:16 +0000

By: Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law at IDTorrent Blog

Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law at IDTorrent Blog — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:08:12 +0000

[...] many unsecured Wireless routers complicate the evidence gathering even further, and BitTorrent trackers have also [...]

By: Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law - Zwartbaard

Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law - Zwartbaard — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:15:14 +0000

[...] many unsecured Wireless routers complicate the evidence gathering even further, and BitTorrent trackers have also implemented countermeasures of their own. Earlier [...]

By: Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law | InstantIdiocy

Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law | InstantIdiocy — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:30:05 +0000

[...] many unsecured Wireless routers complicate the evidence gathering even further, and BitTorrent trackers have also implemented countermeasures of their own. Earlier [...]

By: Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law | Torrent Searcher News

Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law | Torrent Searcher News — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:21:24 +0000

[...] many unsecured Wireless routers complicate the evidence gathering even further, and BitTorrent trackers have also implemented countermeasures of their own. Earlier [...]

By: IFPI Wins Danish File-Sharing Case at IDTorrent Blog

IFPI Wins Danish File-Sharing Case at IDTorrent Blog — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:08:06 +0000

[...] proposals and then the anti-piracy group lost two court cases where alleged file-sharers used the so-called ‘wireless [...]

By: Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law | TorrentFreak

Sweden to Introduce Controversial Anti-Piracy Law | TorrentFreak — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:53:24 +0000

[...] many unsecured Wireless routers complicate the evidence gathering even further, and BitTorrent trackers have also implemented countermeasures of their own. Earlier [...]

By: IFPI Wins Danish File-Sharing Case | Torrent Searcher News

IFPI Wins Danish File-Sharing Case | Torrent Searcher News — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:39:27 +0000

[...] ISPs rejected the IFPI “3 strikes” proposals and then the anti-piracy group lost two court cases where alleged file-sharers used the so-called ‘wireless [...]

By: IFPI Wins Danish File-Sharing Case | TorrentFreak

IFPI Wins Danish File-Sharing Case | TorrentFreak — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:05:18 +0000

[...] ISPs rejected the IFPI “3 strikes” proposals and then the anti-piracy group lost two court cases where alleged file-sharers used the so-called ‘wireless [...]

By: David

David — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:54:09 +0000

Any innocent person can fall victim to downloading. It’s addictive like a drug; once you do it once you can’t stop. We all know it’s illegal and bad to download songs, we just can’t stop. I doubt a lawsuit would even stop some people. It’s just like drugs; you know they’re bad but you can’t stop once you start. Our society is afflicted great greed and selfishness. This selfishness is very destructive and as we see costs millions every year. I am very saddened to see this.

By: Stay Tooned

Stay Tooned — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:30:01 +0000

We should take this to the next level. I propose the “brainless defense”. It goes like this: “Huh?”

Let’s see how this is gonna work out!

By: Maroan

Maroan — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:49:58 +0000

Theres still a problem. IFPI has the right in Denmark to invade a privat home and confiscate what ever they can find, without warning their targets… Their press attache has allready stated that it will be the next step in the war against pirates, since they cant be sure they will be able to gather enough evidences against copyrights infrigents with ISPs proves only. “And it will be more expensive for the defendant if he/she is found guilty” he said… Dark clouds over Denmark…

By: Andresarchus

Andresarchus — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:29:04 +0000

We need to start taking personal revenge against the lawyers.

They are the Mercenaries of the Copyright Nazis

I view the RIAA snooping unto what I do online as an invasion to my personal privacy.

How?

Start making invasions of privacy against the lawyers.

Start using government records to find where the live; follow them home if you must.

Find their home addresses; get their home phone numbers; learn what kind of vehicles they drive and their plate numbers.

Use this information against them.

Send a message THROUGH CYBERSPACE.

“These profiteering gluttons SUE CHILDREN AND GRANDMA’S”

HERE is THEIR HOME ADDRESS

Go fsck with them. Use Grass Killer to make a giant swastika and copyright symbol on their lawn

HERE is THE CAR THEY DRIVE

Go SLASH their tires. Key their cars. Put cement in their gas tank.

Make it clear to the RIAA AND their Greedy lapdogs; we WILL make personal attack those who wage Ridiculous lawsuits against who don’t want to pay for something that could be free.

The Time Is Right To Make Them Fear Us. Let’s Make An Example Of THEM.

After All THEY Can Easily Afford to Buy a New Car; With All That Stolen Money They Took From Grandma.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:09:05 +0000

Surely that only works until somebody checks your computer and finds a few Gigabytes of infringing material…..what then?

That damn hacker must have put them there?

http://www.torrentfly.org

By: Jiffy Jones

Jiffy Jones — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:31:40 +0000

Ha Ha ha, good for him. To heck with the stupid loser MPAA and RIAA idiots.

http://www.anonymity.at.tc

By: IFDF OR W?E

IFDF OR W?E — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:20:59 +0000

owned

By: Byte Into It - 08 Oct 08 « Byte Into It - Computing and new technology

Byte Into It - 08 Oct 08 « Byte Into It - Computing and new technology — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:06:36 +0000

[...] IFPI Loses Another P2P ‘Wireless Defense’ Case | TorrentFreak A man accused of being a music pirate has been cleared by a Danish court. The man denied the claims of the IFPI, based on his assertion that someone else must have accessed his wireless router to commit the infringements. This is the second major defeat for the IFPI in Denmark over the so-called ‘wireless defense’. [...]

By: Lolnotheydont

Lolnotheydont — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:15:19 +0000

@28

Im am danish, and we dont use euros now, and we never have.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:13:44 +0000

@17,
Its not danish krones anymore, Denmark uses euros now, it has for several years

By: s2pid

s2pid — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:19:45 +0000

Commodity = Ip = User

one day people will be traded on the foreign exchange.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:58:29 +0000

I have a computer and a laptop. All my dirty work is on my laptop. My router/cable modem is on wep NOT wpa for personal reasons. WEP is so fuckign easy to crack its not funny… I WIN for life bitches!

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:35:53 +0000

@Guss – Piratgruppen.org

Only 12,000 dollars?
You must be one reallll rich person to say *only* 12k U$D for 99c songs.

And since you are so rich perhaps i can ask you to contribute/donate 25% of that towards eZee.se?

Would be much-o appreciated!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:25:05 +0000

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By: Norm

Norm — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:36:52 +0000

Wireless Routers – they are like garlic for anti pirates.

By: Jonnara

Jonnara — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:27:41 +0000

Or you can just come and live in Australia where the department of justice has told these clowns they will not prosecute single individuals over alleged copy right infringement.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:14:06 +0000

subnetting FTW.

Externals + clean wipes + wifi + secret underground hiding spot you dug in your closet when your house was getting built = ultra FTW

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:40:27 +0000

Once you get the letter you back up your stuff onto portable hard drives and hide it somewhere. Wipe your drives multiple times and hide the externals. I don’t think they have the right to seize your computer anyway.

By: NastyBedazzler

NastyBedazzler — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:04:14 +0000

I don’t expect the IFPI to accept that they’re wrong, because truth be told they’re probably right, at least according to the law.

I just don’t give a fuck most of these copyright laws suck anyway, I want to see them lose because they’re pricks anyway.

By: Guss - Piratgruppen.org

Guss - Piratgruppen.org — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:24:47 +0000

IFPI ordered the man to pay 62.000 danish krones. That is only 12.000 dollars.

By: Pixelated

Pixelated — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:18:49 +0000

If someone sniffed your credit card number over your wireless connection and then racked up a $62,000 bill would you be forced to pay your credit card company? I don’t think so. The same applies here.

By: btw

btw — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:00:06 +0000

tpb just hit 17 million peers oO
first time?

By: Tribunal dinamarquês volta a desresponsabilizar legalmente administradores de redes WiFi | Remixtures

Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:48:00 +0000

[...] Desta vez, o Tribunal de Recurso Vestre Landsret anulou uma decisão de um Tribunal Distrital de Randers que considerou um homem de meia idade residente naquela localidade dinamarquesa como culpado de pirataria online em resultado de uma queixa de Direito Civil apresentada pela IFPI em nome dos detentores de direitos sobre as músicas, conforme refere o site Comon.dk (Google Translator – via Torrent Freak). [...]

By: what?

what? — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:41:24 +0000

What? What do you mean a bunch of porn got on my computer? Thats rediculous! I would never download all 400 seasons of horse pounding! A hacker must of put that on there..

yep.. a hacker. damn.

By: ...

... — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:13:14 +0000

@11

A hacker once filled my computer with videos of Pamela Anderssen pole dancing..
Not only was that Intellectual Property stolen from me (god knows how they got inside my brain) and put into a movie, they had to rub it in and make me a copyright infringer of my own intellectual creations..

By: fuck

fuck — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:10:15 +0000

what will taking it to the supreme court do for them?

why should anyone have to police their wireless connection 24/7?

o ya thats right a $62,000 cash grab from reaaal criminals.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:04:39 +0000

Surely that only works until somebody checks your computer and finds a few Gigabytes of infringing material…..what then?

That damn hacker must have put them there?

By: haha

haha — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:25:32 +0000

Pwnt loser.

Change the copyright laws or be destroyed, 2 choices, your 3rd choice isnt working.

We win, you loose, again and again and again.

We will download.

You will not stop us.

By: Colin

Colin — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:55:26 +0000

Has this worked as a defense in the states?

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:34:18 +0000

Did anyone even notice the amount these sons of bitches wanted?

$62,000!
$11,000!

For 99c songs!!!!!!

Torben Steffenson, go back to licking dirty monkey balls and leave us alone, its lawyers like you who give lawyers in general a bad name.

http://www.eZee.se

By: Roze

Roze — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:29:34 +0000

@6
Indeed, people should stop trying to get around the law, and directly challenge the law itself. Band together with other people, and confront the law directly – that is the way to do it.

Roze

By: The Cheat

The Cheat — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:18:44 +0000

it seems so bad that such a tactic is needed to get out of these charges.

By: Phishybongwaters

Phishybongwaters — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:18:18 +0000

Told ya. This is literally what my ISP told me to say years back when I got a complaint, say someone cracked your wifi.

It’s so simply it works. Keep in mind, most ISPs that supply you with a router also mention in your contract that you are liable for anything anyone does on said network. Yet, if you secured it, and it was cracked, it’s not exactly your fault.

Don’t tell them it was unsecured, but tell them it was hacked. They can’t prove you are lying, and it gives you an out.

You don’t have to prove you are innocent, you merely have to prove there’s a possibility.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:18:01 +0000

International Federation of Pirate Interests

By: !!ZNZNZNii

!!ZNZNZNii — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:13:29 +0000

Let’s see what happens at the Supreme Court level.

By: Roze

Roze — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:11:27 +0000

Of course they would not accept the decision, they would never admit that they are wrong, even if they are wrong. It’s not in their interest to act for the purpose of truth or justice, they act only in their own interest. Hopefully there can be more decisions like this in the future.

Roze
http://www.28chan.org/fs/ <- file-sharing discussion board

By: anon

anon — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:05:34 +0000

lol