Comments on: IFPI Prepares IPRED Complaints Against File-Sharers

By: gambler

gambler — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:20:15 +0000

P2P is not piracy, it’s marketing. In fact, if your music or movie is NOT being downloaded, you should be WORRIED !
If you can’t even give it away for free, how do you expect to sell it, stupid ?

By: ROLF

ROLF — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:47:08 +0000

since when are comments moderated ?

f**** them ? better now ?

sry, but this is rather funny..

By: HNicolai

HNicolai — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:28:54 +0000

“iPredator”

Lol, dude they didn’t “steal” apple’s “i”! It’s called “IPREDator”.

But anyway, nice story.

By: Norwegian

Norwegian — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:00:19 +0000

@ Alfred Bernhard Nobel
“i deeply regret inventing dynamite and unleashing explosives on the world. but there is an upside! for every person killed in wars where explosives have been used there is more food remaining for everyone :-D

us Swedes know what we are doing. trust me”

Thats why Nobel said us norwegians should hand out the peace price ;)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:33:50 +0000

@35 Sep 09, 2009 at 09:39 by foo42:

Please take a look at GmailFS and see if that changes your mind about using email as a form of storage :)

By: foo42

foo42 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:56:32 +0000

I mean, running some I2P stories could drastically increase the amount of users of I2P instead of relying upon inferior solutions like VPNs.

By: foo42

foo42 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:55:06 +0000

Authorities are those who have bigger guns. The sole modus operandi of the police is the use of violence or the threat of violence. Without it this abusive organization couldn’t exist.

@38
TF needs to run some stories about I2P. It’s pretty stable right nao and way faster than TOR.

By: Sanderman

Sanderman — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:02:16 +0000

Why pay for vpn servers when a) there is a chance they have to log everything sooner or later like the isps and b) anonymous networks like TOR and I2P already exist? Sure, their performance might not be that great but that will only get better when it matures and more people use it.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:04:50 +0000

@12 P/Simplemind/Guys

“You’re an idiot.
At the end of the day file sharing is illegal, if you do it you have to be aware that you run the risk of getting caught.”

Since you are there warn your masters that they are fool because they run the risk of being shot.

It doesn’t matter what “Authorities” who are not longer reconized as such by the people say to be legal or illegal.

The law is dead and there is no law.

The corporation of parasites you are working for just killed the law.

You can not deal with that and I don’t think this was worth it.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:45:45 +0000

I Am cleaning my guns right now.

By: foo42

foo42 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:39:25 +0000

#34 mail isn’t really meant for sharing large files and some postmasters ban messages larger than few megabytes.

Also note that email doesn’t handle binaries inside the body, 8bit characters have to be encoded using base64 or quoted-printable which increases the size a bit.

And since spam is sent using computers of regular Joes, it takes the bandwidth off of their seeding.

By: me

me — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:38:04 +0000

#20 foo42: You do realize that spamming is also a wonderful hidden channel for distributing copyrighted files, right?

I wouldn’t wonder if the current spam bots could also be used to piggy back more useful files (chunks) than silly ads.

Wouldn’t that be wonderfully subversive? Imagine opening up your mail server to suck up 70% spam (and destroy it with SpamAssassin), and getting 30% music, movies etc. as a reward? ;)

By: Alfred Bernhard Nobel

Alfred Bernhard Nobel — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:19:29 +0000

i deeply regret inventing dynamite and unleashing explosives on the world. but there is an upside! for every person killed in wars where explosives have been used there is more food remaining for everyone :-D

us Swedes know what we are doing. trust me

By: TrollWithBullockSizedBullocks

TrollWithBullockSizedBullocks — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:14:48 +0000

@19 M, ‘@17: It’s not bollocks. My ISP have a page showing monthly statistics, and there was a huge drop in traffic. It’s back up now though.’

Yes it was complete _bullocks_!

They only used the statistics from one feeble owner of a few routers. Not directly a major owner of backbone routers.

Easter week holidays for everyone in educations started that week, this year. It’s the Swedes version of spring break. Every school choose a week in and around easter, and not everyone at once, so as not to clog neither the skiing “paradises” in sweden nor the limited mediterranean hot spots for sun and fun.

Parents tends to take the week off. Not too shabby having five to seven weeks paid vacation after all.

About six to eight month prior to first of april a few more hundred of thousands got actual broadband, that would be 2mbits full duplex up and down, and most of the rest got a chance to get higher download rates, from ten to 100, from 24 to 48, from eight to ten or to 50, et cetera.

Of course there most likely was a psychological april-fools effect. But, even going from that little router owner, traffic only fell down to what it was before all those people got actual broadband or higher download rates, even though it was the spring break time of year in sweden.

By: Sir-Real

Sir-Real — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:48:01 +0000

Its kinda cute, they think that there really making a difference in a noble cause… Awww…

By: Mr. Briggs

Mr. Briggs — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:18:23 +0000

Umm… I meant 28.

By: Mr. Briggs

Mr. Briggs — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:18:01 +0000

@38 (Anonymous):

Because piracy isn’t bad for your health. (Well, not directly, anyway.)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:02:05 +0000

ifpi needs to get it that the fact is YOU cannot fight the youth cause they are your future

as such YOU have lost its only a matter of time making us all criminals now only makes us all brothers and sisters of the future where ifpi will be outlawed.

How come drugs ain’t legal now then?

By: Mr. Briggs

Mr. Briggs — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:53:45 +0000

@article:

You missed a comma between “activity” and “which” in the paragraph about Bahnhof and Tele2. The way I’m reading it right now, I’m getting a message that it’s the Internet activity that seriously hampers IPRED. (Yeah, a stupid comma can change an entire sentence… grammar is a bitch.)

By: @ P

@ P — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:35:31 +0000

possibly at the end of the day file sharing will be illegal, but its not night yet. and i agree with the above comment that it depends on what is being shared. ill spare the analogies of what could be shared for free without infringing copyrights if you spare the demonization of emerging (emerged?) technologies

::middle finger::

By: wtf

wtf — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:25:33 +0000

Lol. Looks like @23 just called all you public tracker nubs computer illiterate.

enjoi

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:27:10 +0000

They are forcing p2p underground, but it will all return once people get used to VPN clients and/or when file sharing can be sufficiently anonymized.

By: M

Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:41:58 +0000

Actually lots of people I know have stopped torrenting almost entirely since the new law, especially those who are less computer literate and use only public trackers like TPB. Other friends who mostly use private trackers or other networks have not changed their behaviour. So I guess the biggest drop in filesharing was among the less computer literate.

By: dubmasre

dubmasre — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:50:21 +0000

@19 “M”

Maybe it’s true then, though I find it hard to believe so many people would switch off like that at the rate they did. It’s entirely possible I underestimated the effect the law was to have.

If it is true, then with a dose of new law here and there around the world I guess you really could see a big drop in file sharing, at least until something more secure comes along, or until people move away from BitTorrent (which is old vulnerable crap nowadays anyway) and onto other (safer) services (that already exist).

By: Em

Em — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:40:44 +0000

@15 “it all depends what you’re sharing”

When all that it should matter would be if what you’re asking in return is money or nothing.

By: foo42

foo42 — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:34:41 +0000

Bunch of hypocrites.

Spamming is also illegal in the european union. I receive dozens of spam messages in German daily.

Does any government care? It’s a commercial activity unlike piracy. Does any ISP want to disconnect zombie computers sending spam from the Internet? No.

Obviously, interests of bourgeois record labels are more important than all Internet users receiving spam.

By: M

Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:17:57 +0000

@17: It’s not bollocks. My ISP have a page showing monthly statistics, and there was a huge drop in traffic. It’s back up now though.

By: Anon

Anon — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:57 +0000

Oh, it’s all about music? Well, seeing as I have Spotify I guess I’m of the radar then? ^_^

By: dubmasre

dubmasre — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:57:51 +0000

Sorry, but I reckon it’s complete bollocks that IPRED caused that apparent traffic drop. Are there any other graphs, from ISPs for instance, that indicate the same?

By: MM99

MM99 — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:51:15 +0000

Damn greedy corporates…wonder how much they will sue their first victim…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:41:34 +0000

@12
File sharing isn’t illegal in itself, it all depends what you’re sharing.

By: Anon

Anon — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:36:03 +0000

Again – if the idiots prefer we give out money to VPNs instead of a “culture” / all content flatrate, then they cannot be helped.

I would gladly pay 10 EUR a month, every month, if I knew that _ALL_ my internet activity, regardless of content, were tolerated that way.

By: P

Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:21:28 +0000

In response to United Hackers associations post:
“get ready for a actual riot is all im gonna say
ifpi needs to get it that the fact is YOU cannot fight the youth cause they are your future

as such YOU have lost its only a matter of time making us all criminals now only makes us all brothers and sisters of the future where ifpi will be outlawed.”

You’re an idiot.
At the end of the day file sharing is illegal, if you do it you have to be aware that you run the risk of getting caught.
Just do your best to avoid it, but don’t complain when you have a massive fine hanging over your head.

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:20:09 +0000

I’m in Stockholm Sweden, its kind of become a habit for me now:
after putting on the computer, 3 clicks, then behind a VPN then use the net without any thought of the silly measures that morons are trying to come up with.

Peace of mind for 50kr a month, since i pay 320kr a month for my connection, just 50 more is a small price to pay for peace of mind.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:11:45 +0000

‘two ISPs – Bahnhof and Tele2 – both announced they would stop logging Internet activity’

check http://www.integrity.st for all who joined.

By: Ernesto

Ernesto — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:52:49 +0000

Please keep the responses on topic. If you want to address something not related to the article you can do it at the forums http://www.p2pfreak.com/forum/ or contact us.

By: helgi

helgi — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:51:36 +0000

we are swarm we are legion. True or false?

By: the elephant

the elephant — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:38:23 +0000

Not exactly a secret

http://tinyurl.com/llfrvk

By: Mad Scientist

Mad Scientist — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:36:04 +0000

It’s actually what CERN is trying to find out. What happens when White Hats and Black Hats collide

lol

By: UNited Hackers Association

UNited Hackers Association — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:28:36 +0000

get ready for a actual riot is all im gonna say
ifpi needs to get it that the fact is YOU cannot fight the youth cause they are your future

as such YOU have lost its only a matter of time making us all criminals now only makes us all brothers and sisters of the future where ifpi will be outlawed.

By: THE SWARM

THE SWARM — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:26:55 +0000

we’re hangin, workin on new techniques ;)

http://btguard.com/

http://www.itshidden.com/

http://openvpn.net/

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:11:37 +0000

By then we’d have technology that’s not p2p anymore =D

By: Billy

Billy — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:02:11 +0000

The answer is for ISPs to stop logging who is assigned which dynamic IPs.

The other side will then make laws forcing the ISP to log IP assignments, so then it will be time to use either an anonymous p2p system of some sort, or use TOR, or other proxy systems.

By: Al

Al — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:58:47 +0000

Bring it on!