Comments on: iiNet v AFACT Anti-Piracy Case Appeal Set For August 2010 http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Tue, 22 May 2012 21:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: anti-gun http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-662037 anti-gun Tue, 18 May 2010 08:27:57 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-662037 isn't it amazing - if MPAA holds the seller of bandwidth responsible for the use of its bandwidth, then NRA should hold responsible the use of the guns that people buy... and criminally prosecute ARMS DEALERS each time someone is shot - columbine, etc. isn’t it amazing – if MPAA holds the seller of bandwidth responsible for the use of its bandwidth, then NRA should hold responsible the use of the guns that people buy… and criminally prosecute ARMS DEALERS each time someone is shot – columbine, etc.

]]> By: Borderline Voter http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-662033 Borderline Voter Tue, 18 May 2010 08:12:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-662033 “Neither the original case nor this latest appeal will stop piracy — even if in the unlikely event they won the appeal,” AFACT concludes. So why spend the time and money for an outcome which will do nothing. “Neither the original case nor this latest appeal will stop piracy — even if in the unlikely event they won the appeal,” AFACT concludes.

So why spend the time and money for an outcome which will do nothing.

]]> By: Si http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-662021 Si Tue, 18 May 2010 07:26:14 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-662021 @26 iiNet is the 3rd largest ISP in Australia...wouldn't exactly call that small Will be good to see iiNet's appeal :D thanks for the info 13 @26 iiNet is the 3rd largest ISP in Australia…wouldn’t exactly call that small

Will be good to see iiNet’s appeal :D thanks for the info 13

]]> By: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661739 xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mon, 17 May 2010 19:01:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661739 I was so impressed with iiNet's stand on this issue that I changed from Optus to iiNet when I moved house. AFACT deliberately targeted one of the smaller ISPs, hoping to set a legal precedent that could be used against the more powerful ones later. Thank goodness they failed. I was so impressed with iiNet’s stand on this issue that I changed from Optus to iiNet when I moved house. AFACT deliberately targeted one of the smaller ISPs, hoping to set a legal precedent that could be used against the more powerful ones later. Thank goodness they failed.

]]> By: Whatever http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661465 Whatever Mon, 17 May 2010 08:01:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661465 @“unworkable environment for content creators and content providers” and represented “a serious threat to Australia’s digital economy.” Since the trolls always scream about LAW, where is the law argument here ? This is really an American argument where laws are put aside to go to war or screw other countries in other ways. Both arguments are the MAFIAA's problem and no reason for a judge to change the verdict in their favor. I don't know Australian law but i assume there is no part mentioning "if there is an unworkable enviroment for content providers or the Australian digital economy is in danger then Mickey Mouse wins any needed courtcase" Could be funny in court when the MAFIAA starts explaining that the Australian digital economy is in danger by not sending money to mostly US companies. Then the defense merely has to point out that ISP's, PC sellers and IT personel which are part of the 'digital economy' don't appear to be an endangered species by the use of bittorrent. @“unworkable environment for content creators and content providers” and represented “a serious threat to Australia’s digital economy.”

Since the trolls always scream about LAW, where is the law argument here ? This is really an American argument where laws are put aside to go to war or screw other countries in other ways.

Both arguments are the MAFIAA’s problem and no reason for a judge to change the verdict in their favor. I don’t know Australian law but i assume there is no part mentioning “if there is an unworkable enviroment for content providers or the Australian digital economy is in danger then Mickey Mouse wins any needed courtcase”

Could be funny in court when the MAFIAA starts explaining that the Australian digital economy is in danger by not sending money to mostly US companies. Then the defense merely has to point out that ISP’s, PC sellers and IT personel which are part of the ‘digital economy’ don’t appear to be an endangered species by the use of bittorrent.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661406 Anonymous Sun, 16 May 2010 22:20:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661406 Law or no law, piracy is not going away. Law or no law, piracy is not going away.

]]> By: Fazer*27 http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661303 Fazer*27 Sun, 16 May 2010 05:57:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661303 im Sayin, as per like all you are sayign Now, that just as per as Jon Lemon of Beetles, and cinnaman chalenges and such as that stuff. And further researches, just as like all You Are sayin. Plus if you are your usin good gramer and like that, it helps you now? im Sayin, as per like all you are sayign Now, that just as per as Jon Lemon of Beetles, and cinnaman chalenges and such as that stuff. And further researches, just as like all You Are sayin. Plus if you are your usin good gramer and like that, it helps you now?

]]> By: Trelew http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661229 Trelew Sat, 15 May 2010 17:47:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661229 If the corporations loose the suit they probably will buy out iiNet and change the user agreement and screw over everyone anyways. That seems to be general consensus now, buy out the ISP, change the user agreements, and that way they can screw all internet users without having to worry about what is right. Regardless how many times we show the corporations they are in the wrong, they will just ignore it because they don't care about the truth and what's right; all they care about is furthering their greed and power. If the corporations loose the suit they probably will buy out iiNet and change the user agreement and screw over everyone anyways. That seems to be general consensus now, buy out the ISP, change the user agreements, and that way they can screw all internet users without having to worry about what is right. Regardless how many times we show the corporations they are in the wrong, they will just ignore it because they don’t care about the truth and what’s right; all they care about is furthering their greed and power.

]]> By: TerribleTony http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661156 TerribleTony Sat, 15 May 2010 13:28:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661156 I wonder if iiNet are seeing an increase in subscriber numbers... I wonder if iiNet are seeing an increase in subscriber numbers…

]]> By: anon2 http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661133 anon2 Sat, 15 May 2010 09:53:36 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661133 wish iiNet all the good luck going. although they have won once already, they better be prepared for more than just this appeal by AFACT. if the case goes iiNet's way (hopefully) again, there will be another appeal and another and another until eventually AFACT gets what it wants. seen too much of this elsewhere to believe they will stop. they just need to find out who to give how much to. once they know that, then they will get the 'epic win' and out will come the comments of 'how justice came to its senses'. wish iiNet all the good luck going. although they have won once already, they better be prepared for more than just this appeal by AFACT. if the case goes iiNet’s way (hopefully) again, there will be another appeal and another and another until eventually AFACT gets what it wants. seen too much of this elsewhere to believe they will stop. they just need to find out who to give how much to. once they know that, then they will get the ‘epic win’ and out will come the comments of ‘how justice came to its senses’.

]]> By: Turbis http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661129 Turbis Sat, 15 May 2010 08:49:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661129 Hollywood and ISP's are run by the same people so who the hell cares. Hollywood and ISP’s are run by the same people so who the hell cares.

]]> By: trollfeedingfrenzy http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661127 trollfeedingfrenzy Sat, 15 May 2010 07:43:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661127 lol'ed at neoqueef just now after seeing her trolling innocent bystanders on FREAKBITS.. they re talking bout the hitler clips takedown requests.. and sure enough, that little douche neotroll is preaching about 'even DLing you tube videos is stealing' and other such nonsense... loser.. lol’ed at neoqueef just now after seeing her trolling innocent bystanders on FREAKBITS.. they re talking bout the hitler clips takedown requests.. and sure enough, that little douche neotroll is preaching about ‘even DLing you tube videos is stealing’ and other such nonsense…

loser..

]]> By: Unauthorized Content Consumer http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661125 Unauthorized Content Consumer Sat, 15 May 2010 06:43:33 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661125 @12 Thanks for the spam. @12

Thanks for the spam.

]]> By: Drake3 http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661121 Drake3 Sat, 15 May 2010 05:26:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661121 "Lets hold the gun makers responsible for every crime. Lets hold car manufacturers resposible for every accident. Lets hold beer makers resposable for every liver damaged drunk." Yeah, perhaps we should start holding MAFIAA responsible for any crimes which occur in the vicinity of the airing of one of their movies! (i.e. A plane was hijacked at gunpoint and the in-flight movie was playing at the time, so MAFIAA facilitated the crime.) Something tells me they wouldn't get the point if I were to suggest that to them. ;) “Lets hold the gun makers responsible for every crime. Lets hold car manufacturers resposible for every accident. Lets hold beer makers resposable for every liver damaged drunk.”

Yeah, perhaps we should start holding MAFIAA responsible for any crimes which occur in the vicinity of the airing of one of their movies! (i.e. A plane was hijacked at gunpoint and the in-flight movie was playing at the time, so MAFIAA facilitated the crime.)

Something tells me they wouldn’t get the point if I were to suggest that to them. ;)

]]> By: danni http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661119 danni Sat, 15 May 2010 05:02:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661119 Scott, I read the article you linked to, and it appears that iinet is not appealing the win judgement. It is, however, seeking clarification on a couple of points the original judge was unable to confirm, since AFACT is already bringing the issue back into the courtroom through it's appeal. Agreed with your last comment, if they win, it will be a blow to AFACT. I hope iinet win again. Scott, I read the article you linked to, and it appears that iinet is not appealing the win judgement. It is, however, seeking clarification on a couple of points the original judge was unable to confirm, since AFACT is already bringing the issue back into the courtroom through it’s appeal.

Agreed with your last comment, if they win, it will be a blow to AFACT. I hope iinet win again.

]]> By: StevO http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661118 StevO Sat, 15 May 2010 04:56:16 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661118 This is just retarded. If they can make ISPs responible, they will do it with every ISP. These people are insane, and every government/court should be very scared of this type of tactic. Lets hold the gun makers responsible for every crime. Lets hold car manufacturers resposible for every accident. Lets hold beer makers resposable for every liver damaged drunk. ETC> ETC> Christ, what is their problem. This is just retarded. If they can make ISPs responible, they will do it with every ISP. These people are insane, and every government/court should be very scared of this type of tactic. Lets hold the gun makers responsible for every crime. Lets hold car manufacturers resposible for every accident. Lets hold beer makers resposable for every liver damaged drunk. ETC> ETC> Christ, what is their problem.

]]> By: scott http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661113 scott Sat, 15 May 2010 03:09:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661113 uncharacteristically for a torrentfreak article, you missed an important point: iinet is _also_ appealing the decision. They argue that their original win didn't go far enough and want clarification on several points (see here http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/340072/afact_iinet_appealing_its_win_judgment/) should they win, IMHO it will be a lethal blow to AFACT since it will mean that ISP customers' privacy will trump their subpoenas. uncharacteristically for a torrentfreak article, you missed an important point: iinet is _also_ appealing the decision.

They argue that their original win didn’t go far enough and want clarification on several points (see here http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/340072/afact_iinet_appealing_its_win_judgment/)

should they win, IMHO it will be a lethal blow to AFACT since it will mean that ISP customers’ privacy will trump their subpoenas.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661097 Anonymous Sat, 15 May 2010 01:19:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661097 There is absolutely no way to prevent people from sharing digital files. It is just not possible. The notion that they can slowly impose a software or hardware so DRMed that hacking is impossible is a pipe dream. It is time to Hollywood to surrender to the people before there is nothing left of them. There is absolutely no way to prevent people from sharing digital files. It is just not possible.

The notion that they can slowly impose a software or hardware so DRMed that hacking is impossible is a pipe dream.

It is time to Hollywood to surrender to the people before there is nothing left of them.

]]> By: gorehound http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661092 gorehound Sat, 15 May 2010 01:09:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661092 illage Roadshow, Universal Pictures, Warner Bros Entertainment, Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation, Disney Enterprises, Inc. and the Seven Network boycott them all by not buying any new movies and only buying your movies used.screw these big studios.they have a lot of nerve trying to do this to company that has nothing to do with "piracy". I want to see Hollywood's Stocks Go Down !!!! illage Roadshow, Universal Pictures, Warner Bros Entertainment, Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation, Disney Enterprises, Inc. and the Seven Network boycott them all by not buying any new movies and only buying your movies used.screw these big studios.they have a lot of nerve trying to do this to company that has nothing to do with “piracy”.

I want to see Hollywood’s Stocks Go Down !!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661090 Anonymous Sat, 15 May 2010 00:41:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661090 "derp derp we didn't get it our way let's appeal hurr" - MAFIAA “derp derp we didn’t get it our way let’s appeal hurr” – MAFIAA

]]> By: JayD http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661089 JayD Sat, 15 May 2010 00:27:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661089 May 15, 2010 at 01:34 by Anonymous damn afact wasting money if we remain buying their products they receive more money so they can sue the hell out of us... Stop buying!!! May 15, 2010 at 01:34 by Anonymous
damn afact wasting money

if we remain buying their products they receive more money so they can sue the hell out of us…

Stop buying!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661084 Anonymous Fri, 14 May 2010 23:34:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661084 damn afact wasting money damn afact wasting money

]]> By: Matthew http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661083 Matthew Fri, 14 May 2010 23:33:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661083 Gosh the studios are stupid! If a drunk driver kills an innocent bystander, can the police charge Holden? Same thing applies. iiNet FTW!! Gosh the studios are stupid! If a drunk driver kills an innocent bystander, can the police charge Holden? Same thing applies. iiNet FTW!!

]]> By: Seasoned Goat http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661082 Seasoned Goat Fri, 14 May 2010 23:22:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661082 damage penalty time to hand over teh keys (hollywood) damage penalty time to hand over teh keys (hollywood)

]]> By: chris http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661081 chris Fri, 14 May 2010 23:20:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661081 So AFACT think the judge was wrong, come on ! So AFACT think the judge was wrong, come on !

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661080 Anonymous Fri, 14 May 2010 23:09:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661080 Go iiNet! Hollywood just doesn't know when to throw in the towel do they? Go iiNet! Hollywood just doesn’t know when to throw in the towel do they?

]]> By: duane http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661079 duane Fri, 14 May 2010 22:59:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661079 Australia NEEDS that victory. A lot of bad news from that side of the world lately. Australia NEEDS that victory. A lot of bad news from that side of the world lately.

]]> By: Simon http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661078 Simon Fri, 14 May 2010 22:58:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661078 Seriously, just give up. Seriously, just give up.

]]> By: Anon http://torrentfreak.com/iinet-v-afact-anti-piracy-case-appeal-set-for-august-2010/#comment-661077 Anon Fri, 14 May 2010 22:55:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=23855#comment-661077 Go iiNet! Go iiNet!

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