Comments on: 5 Reasons Why Illegal Downloaders Will Not Face a UK Ban http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:32:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Deadhouse Gates » Norwegian Police Deal Massive Blow to MPAA Lawyer http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-498348 Deadhouse Gates » Norwegian Police Deal Massive Blow to MPAA Lawyer Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:14:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-498348 [...] Giske, Minister of Culture in Norway told VG.no: “We have no plans to do anything similar to the Brits. To identify the users is quite a substantial process, so we plan to focus on only those who upload [...] [...] Giske, Minister of Culture in Norway told VG.no: “We have no plans to do anything similar to the Brits. To identify the users is quite a substantial process, so we plan to focus on only those who upload [...]

]]> By: RAD1CAL http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-472871 RAD1CAL Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:52:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-472871 Just to add that if every downloader paid 5 or 10 bucks wouldnt that be better than all downloaders paying nothing??? Just to add that if every downloader paid 5 or 10 bucks wouldnt that be better than all downloaders paying nothing???

]]> By: RAD1CAL http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-472865 RAD1CAL Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:46:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-472865 The rights owners say they are loosing revenue from illegal downloaders but speaking from experience the only reason i download something is because i DON'T have to pay for it. If i did have to i just wouldn't. I had a great idea which is to offer a reasonable flat fee payable once a year which entitled you to download whatever, i know most of my friends would be up for that and the rights owners get paid too! What you think??? The rights owners say they are loosing revenue from illegal downloaders but speaking from experience the only reason i download something is because i DON’T have to pay for it. If i did have to i just wouldn’t.

I had a great idea which is to offer a reasonable flat fee payable once a year which entitled you to download whatever, i know most of my friends would be up for that and the rights owners get paid too!

What you think???

]]> By: wild3jeff http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-465437 wild3jeff Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:49:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-465437 They will only stop me on the day that riot-gear police break down my door to cart me away for my downloads. Heck, I will still be downloading in the van on the way to my incarceration! They will only stop me on the day that riot-gear police break down my door to cart me away for my downloads. Heck, I will still be downloading in the van on the way to my incarceration!

]]> By: 5 Reasons Why Illegal Downloaders Will Not Face a UK Ban | MarksWeblog http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-414474 5 Reasons Why Illegal Downloaders Will Not Face a UK Ban | MarksWeblog Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:47:14 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-414474 [...] read more | digg story Rate this: 2.5 [...] [...] read more | digg story Rate this: 2.5 [...]

]]> By: Deathhand640 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-369881 Deathhand640 Sat, 03 May 2008 05:44:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-369881 yep yep

]]> By: Azureus http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-362297 Azureus Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:53:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-362297 Thanks Matt, i was getting worried. I'm new to p2p and was nervous at first, but at the end of the day, it's just so easy. And the amout of people who fileshare is unbelievable; "Over 40 million people in the UK download and share illegal files. " As Pete said. They cant stop us! They never will!! Thanks Thanks Matt, i was getting worried. I’m new to p2p and was nervous at first, but at the end of the day, it’s just so easy. And the amout of people who fileshare is unbelievable;
“Over 40 million people in the UK download and share illegal files. ” As Pete said.

They cant stop us!
They never will!!

Thanks

]]> By: will http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-359365 will Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:03:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-359365 Nice. So now I can leave Azureus on all day and night! Cool, Ta. www.willbrownonline.co.uk Nice.
So now I can leave Azureus on all day and night!

Cool, Ta.
http://www.willbrownonline.co.uk

]]> By: Провайдеры Японии согласились банить пользователей файлообменных сетей « Ktulkhu’s Weblog http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-313466 Провайдеры Японии согласились банить пользователей файлообменных сетей « Ktulkhu’s Weblog Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:10:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-313466 [...] сетей. Пока такие предложения были внесены во Франции ,Великобритании и [...] [...] сетей. Пока такие предложения были внесены во Франции ,Великобритании и [...]

]]> By: Zwartbaard.nl » Blog Archive » Japanese ISPs Agree to Ban Pirates from the Internet http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-313111 Zwartbaard.nl » Blog Archive » Japanese ISPs Agree to Ban Pirates from the Internet Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:18:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-313111 [...] file-sharers could be banned from the internet. So far there have been proposals in France, the UK and [...] [...] file-sharers could be banned from the internet. So far there have been proposals in France, the UK and [...]

]]> By: Japanese ISPs Agree to Ban Pirates from the Internet at IDTorrent Blog http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-312976 Japanese ISPs Agree to Ban Pirates from the Internet at IDTorrent Blog Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:48:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-312976 [...] file-sharers could be banned from the internet. So far there have been proposals in France, the UK and [...] [...] file-sharers could be banned from the internet. So far there have been proposals in France, the UK and [...]

]]> By: zarathustra http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-312580 zarathustra Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:16:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-312580 [quote comment="292408"]well i had problems with my isp with internet speeds im with tiscali by the way!! 8 meg [/quote] BZZZT! Your ADSL connection is advertised as "UP TO" 8Mb. Very important distinction... That gives arseholes like tiscali all the manoeuvrability they need to give you a shitty connect. Get yourself some fibre - or, if not available, at least standard cable. [quote comment="292408"]well i had problems with my isp with internet speeds im with tiscali by the way!! 8 meg [/quote]

BZZZT! Your ADSL connection is advertised as “UP TO” 8Mb. Very important distinction…

That gives arseholes like tiscali all the manoeuvrability they need to give you a shitty connect.

Get yourself some fibre – or, if not available, at least standard cable.

]]> By: Fansubbed Anime Screwed? - Baka Wolf Anime Direct Download http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-312060 Fansubbed Anime Screwed? - Baka Wolf Anime Direct Download Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:11:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-312060 [...] file-sharers could be banned from the internet. So far there have been proposals in France, the UK and Australia. During December last year we reported that the number of internet users file-sharing [...] [...] file-sharers could be banned from the internet. So far there have been proposals in France, the UK and Australia. During December last year we reported that the number of internet users file-sharing [...]

]]> By: Brent Spiner http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-307494 Brent Spiner Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:21:36 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-307494 Set up more CD trading/swapping stores. Trade disks online, chat coms etc. Never buy from big labels. Still don't know why govts would want to stop a major revenue source. We pay tax on every payment. If ISPs did ban users they would force said users to pay out their contracts, rubbing their greedy illicit hands together. Refuse to pay. That will deter them. Set up more CD trading/swapping stores. Trade disks online, chat coms etc. Never buy from big labels.

Still don’t know why govts would want to stop a major revenue source. We pay tax on every payment.

If ISPs did ban users they would force said users to pay out their contracts, rubbing their greedy illicit hands together. Refuse to pay. That will deter them.

]]> By: Redtel pide “orden” en la Red: sobre la neutralidad en Internet « Barraquito.net http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-305057 Redtel pide “orden” en la Red: sobre la neutralidad en Internet « Barraquito.net Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:47:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-305057 [...] propio, la que se subió al carro (aunque de momento no es más que una propuesta de ley y hay quien piensa que es irrealizable). Ahora son las telecos españolas las que empiezan a presionar para seguir un modelo similar a la [...] [...] propio, la que se subió al carro (aunque de momento no es más que una propuesta de ley y hay quien piensa que es irrealizable). Ahora son las telecos españolas las que empiezan a presionar para seguir un modelo similar a la [...]

]]> By: Norwegian Police Deal Massive Blow to MPAA Lawyer http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-303433 Norwegian Police Deal Massive Blow to MPAA Lawyer Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:41:38 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-303433 [...] Giske, Minister of Culture in Norway told VG.no: "We have no plans to do anything similar to the Brits. To identify the users is quite a substantial process, so we plan to focus on only those who upload [...] [...] Giske, Minister of Culture in Norway told VG.no: “We have no plans to do anything similar to the Brits. To identify the users is quite a substantial process, so we plan to focus on only those who upload [...]

]]> By: Zwartbaard.nl » Blog Archive » Norwegian Police Deal Massive Blow to MPAA Lawyer http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-296468 Zwartbaard.nl » Blog Archive » Norwegian Police Deal Massive Blow to MPAA Lawyer Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:23:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-296468 [...] Giske, Minister of Culture in Norway told VG.no: "We have no plans to do anything similar to the Brits. To identify the users is quite a substantial process, so we plan to focus on only those who upload [...] [...] Giske, Minister of Culture in Norway told VG.no: “We have no plans to do anything similar to the Brits. To identify the users is quite a substantial process, so we plan to focus on only those who upload [...]

]]> By: buzz http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-296455 buzz Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:04:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-296455 The music and film industries are losing money because they are currently churning out a load of crap that no one is interested in. These dicks still want money for old rope. Anyway, if they do succeed, we can always go into Asda and buy the media, take it home, copy it, damage the disk and return it for a refund under the consumer credit act. That'll teach the greedy fat twats. The music and film industries are losing money because they are currently churning out a load of crap that no one is interested in. These dicks still want money for old rope.
Anyway, if they do succeed, we can always go into Asda and buy the media, take it home, copy it, damage the disk and return it for a refund under the consumer credit act. That’ll teach the greedy fat twats.

]]> By: Elliot Ness http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-296063 Elliot Ness Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:58:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-296063 By Kate Holton LONDON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - The bruised and bloodied music industry appears finally to be winning its battle to force Internet providers to act over illegal downloading, after years of seeing its wishes fall largely on deaf ears. Britain said on Friday it would impose legislation on Internet service providers (ISPs) in 2009 if they did not work with the music and film industries to curb illegal file-sharing. France has introduced a policy of denying Internet access to those who repeatedly download illegally. And in the United States, ISP Comcast Corp has complained that customers overwhelm the network by using file-sharing applications like BitTorrent. But the plan is hotly contested by British ISPs, who argue they are mere conduits and not responsible for content, while analysts caution that those engaged in piracy will simply discover new methods to share music without paying. The developments follow years of lobbying by the music industry -- which has been turned upside down by illegal downloading -- and latterly by calls for help from the powerful movie business. Global music sales fell around 10 percent in 2007 and the industry estimates that only one in 20 of the tracks downloaded was licensed, costing the industry potentially billions of dollars. "This is a major turning point," John Kennedy, the head of the international music trade body, the IFPI, told Reuters. "Three years ago I stood up in Brussels and appealed for help from the ISPs and initially I got a very warm reception. But since then there has been almost no cooperation." RAMPANT PIRACY The music and film industries argue that ISPs benefit from the songs and movies available online, making their Internet connection more valuable, but they have done little to counter the rampant piracy that can follow. Under one plan by the IFPI, the trade body would search peer-to-peer networks like Limewire to identify those heavily sharing files. It would then take a screen grab, noting the IP address, number of files shared and the time and date, which could be passed on to the ISP for a warning letter to be sent. If the user does not desist, they could lose their Internet connection. But a spokesman for ISPA, the body that represents ISPs, said there were many problems with the suggestion, such as who would pay for the enforcement. Nick McDonald, an intellectual property expert at law firm Browne Jacobson, also questioned what would stop infringers from simply joining another ISP. "A system of data exchange would need to be implemented and this would require unparalleled cooperation between competitors," he said. The music industry, and increasingly the movie business, has been forced to seek legal means after seeing piracy eat into its business. But high profile law cases around the world have yet to deter illegal downloaders. A report due out in the next few weeks by media law firm Wiggin and Entertainment Media Research suggests 70 percent of users who download unauthorised content said they would stop downloading illegally if they received an ISP warning. And that would be welcomed. The British Video Association estimates that online piracy in the download market alone costs the audio visual industry around 53 million pounds ($104 million). At the annual industry meeting in Cannes earlier this year, Janus Friis, who once terrified the media industry with file-sharing network KaZaa, said the music industry was beginning to move from "stick" to "carrot" approach, citing legal online services Last.fm and Imeem as leading examples. And Screen Digest music analyst Dan Cryan agrees that this is the route the industry needs to take. "I'm just not sure this ISP plan will change much regarding piracy," he told Reuters. "(There are) other systems that get around this, where you can't see who is uploading." "I'm afraid the horse has bolted and the only way the record industry is going to be able to contain piracy is to offer better services at a price that is right." (Editing by David Cowell) http://www.guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7330191 By Kate Holton
LONDON, Feb 22 (Reuters) – The bruised and bloodied music industry appears finally to be winning its battle to force Internet providers to act over illegal downloading, after years of seeing its wishes fall largely on deaf ears.
Britain said on Friday it would impose legislation on Internet service providers (ISPs) in 2009 if they did not work with the music and film industries to curb illegal file-sharing.
France has introduced a policy of denying Internet access to those who repeatedly download illegally.
And in the United States, ISP Comcast Corp has complained that customers overwhelm the network by using file-sharing applications like BitTorrent.
But the plan is hotly contested by British ISPs, who argue they are mere conduits and not responsible for content, while analysts caution that those engaged in piracy will simply discover new methods to share music without paying.
The developments follow years of lobbying by the music industry — which has been turned upside down by illegal downloading — and latterly by calls for help from the powerful movie business.
Global music sales fell around 10 percent in 2007 and the industry estimates that only one in 20 of the tracks downloaded was licensed, costing the industry potentially billions of dollars.
“This is a major turning point,” John Kennedy, the head of the international music trade body, the IFPI, told Reuters.
“Three years ago I stood up in Brussels and appealed for help from the ISPs and initially I got a very warm reception. But since then there has been almost no cooperation.”
RAMPANT PIRACY
The music and film industries argue that ISPs benefit from the songs and movies available online, making their Internet connection more valuable, but they have done little to counter the rampant piracy that can follow.
Under one plan by the IFPI, the trade body would search peer-to-peer networks like Limewire to identify those heavily sharing files.
It would then take a screen grab, noting the IP address, number of files shared and the time and date, which could be passed on to the ISP for a warning letter to be sent. If the user does not desist, they could lose their Internet connection.
But a spokesman for ISPA, the body that represents ISPs, said there were many problems with the suggestion, such as who would pay for the enforcement.
Nick McDonald, an intellectual property expert at law firm Browne Jacobson, also questioned what would stop infringers from simply joining another ISP.
“A system of data exchange would need to be implemented and this would require unparalleled cooperation between competitors,” he said.
The music industry, and increasingly the movie business, has been forced to seek legal means after seeing piracy eat into its business. But high profile law cases around the world have yet to deter illegal downloaders.
A report due out in the next few weeks by media law firm Wiggin and Entertainment Media Research suggests 70 percent of users who download unauthorised content said they would stop downloading illegally if they received an ISP warning.
And that would be welcomed. The British Video Association estimates that online piracy in the download market alone costs the audio visual industry around 53 million pounds ($104 million).
At the annual industry meeting in Cannes earlier this year, Janus Friis, who once terrified the media industry with file-sharing network KaZaa, said the music industry was beginning to move from “stick” to “carrot” approach, citing legal online services Last.fm and Imeem as leading examples.
And Screen Digest music analyst Dan Cryan agrees that this is the route the industry needs to take.
“I’m just not sure this ISP plan will change much regarding piracy,” he told Reuters. “(There are) other systems that get around this, where you can’t see who is uploading.”
“I’m afraid the horse has bolted and the only way the record industry is going to be able to contain piracy is to offer better services at a price that is right.” (Editing by David Cowell)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7330191

]]> By: Gerd Leonhard (Media Futurist) http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-295832 Gerd Leonhard (Media Futurist) Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/illegal-downloaders-will-not-face-uk-ban-080212/#comment-295832 On this subject, I just posted a reply to Paul McGuinness' 'police the internet so that we can keep making money' speech at midem, here: http://www.mediafuturist.com/2008/02/welcome-to-paul.html I thought you may enjoy this "...Let me ask you this, Paul McGuinness: do you really advocate web sites, communities and networks scanned and censored, emails read and screened, Instant Messenger conversations monitored, Skype calls supervised, USB sticks DRM'ed, hard-drives sealed, flash memory cards locked, rootkits and software locks on our computers, a read-only web, the end of remixes, and the implementation of an online police state that without a doubt will only bring us new censorship and the demise of fair use and free speech while the un-paid and unlicensed trading of music will soar to new heights in 100s of new ways that we don't even know about today..." On this subject, I just posted a reply to Paul McGuinness’ ‘police the internet so that we can keep making money’ speech at midem, here: http://www.mediafuturist.com/2008/02/welcome-to-paul.html
I thought you may enjoy this

“…Let me ask you this, Paul McGuinness: do you really advocate web sites, communities and networks scanned and censored, emails read and screened, Instant Messenger conversations monitored, Skype calls supervised, USB sticks DRM’ed, hard-drives sealed, flash memory cards locked, rootkits and software locks on our computers, a read-only web, the end of remixes, and the implementation of an online police state that without a doubt will only bring us new censorship and the demise of fair use and free speech while the un-paid and unlicensed trading of music will soar to new heights in 100s of new ways that we don’t even know about today…”

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