Comments on: Internet Doomsday: Wrongs and Rights of Copyright Fortune Telling

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By: Floppy Copy

Floppy Copy — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:14:00 +0000

@ Lulz

“Wow… someone missed out on the AOHell days of WaReZ”

And before that we used BBS, and prior to BBS it was computer clubs where everyone got together every other week to share everything they had with one another. No matter what the copyright industry does, they will lose. It didn’t have to be this way, but that’s what you get for turning a truly massive opportunity into an excuse to wage war against your own customers. ;-)

PS: Convenience always takes priority over free, and I’ll happily pay a reasonable monthly fee for that despite the fact that I am a long time sharer of files. Copyright trolls say they can’t compete with free, and to that I say your full of BS.

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ISPs: Blocking The Pirate Bay Violates Freedom of Expression | We R Pirates — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:40:16 +0000

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By: Jay

Jay — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:05:00 +0000

I am always mystified why some people hate DMCA law.

Because of the notice and takedown proceedings. It is a prior restraint which allows no one to be able to fight the takedown until after it occurs. I would prefer a notice-notice so that the holder of the copyright could talk to the supposed infringer and figure out a way to negotiate.

Quite simply YouTube could not exist without DMCA safe-harbour protection when getting their butt sued, in court cases lasting years, every time some user uploads infringing media is in no way to run a business.

If copyright laws weren’t so strict, we wouldn’t need the safe harbor laws.

DMCA law respects the age old fact that rights holders have to police their own creations.

Actually, they’re trying to control copies. If rights holders really want to try that, they haven’t been paying attention. They have no moral rights to control what others do.

This also highlights the fact that online services simply do not know the copyright status of mystery media and it is a lot easier for rights holders to simply point out what is theirs and what is infringing their happiness.

But they get it wrong more often than not.

Once released they have lost control and all the law gives them is a “fair” (not “absolute”) right to profit.

No, the law doesn’t give them a right to any profit. There are no handouts. If they can’t learn to compete, they can go home. I know it sounds unfair, but if they want to make content, there is no guarantee that they can profit from it. None. That’s why they build a better service than what pirates can. That’s the incentive that they have, not to destroy the internet through false takedowns of content.

By: Common Man

Common Man — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:36:00 +0000

Finaro is basically right: the conflict between technology and money is basically one between socialism and capitalism. It’s hardly a coincidence that the most pro-capitalist countries (USA, UK) are also the ones that have the weakest pirate parties and the strongest copyright lobbies.

By: Common Man

Common Man — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:31:00 +0000

The Soviet Union defeated Germany, not the United States.

By: Regra

Regra — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:44:00 +0000

1. Admittedly possible. That would be a reason for him to claim that liberty is secondary to killing pirates. Anonymity could just be bringing out his worst side.
2. I doubt this simply because if someone was going to be paid to post here, the MAFIAA would want someone who has a chance of convincing people, and Anon fails in that measure. (I’m just going to assume that pirate groups wouldn’t pay anyone to stir up their own people like this).
3. Possible, although if that’s the case, he may be getting the Mark Twain problem of making people believe that the satire is meant to be serious.
4. Well, he wouldn’t have to be a reporter, he could just be an average commenter. I favor this one because it seems to me that he’s trying to get people riled up and angry.

By: Alyssa Blindy

Alyssa Blindy — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:53:00 +0000

@regra and anonsucks:
Let’s break it down.
First, we know we have a troll who acts like a copyright extremest who wants to, exterminate all pirates.
Now, we know that many of the people who usually are anti-piracy will not come here and comment, but there has to be a circumstance, a stimulus, if you wish, which is causing him to decide to read and comment. It is very logical for anti-filesharing groups to read these articles; look at the other side maybe, to bash it somewhere, but to comment right in it? That usually doesn’t happen. At least, not on a news site. If this were a forum, and people just asked a question about piracy, it would be different, but these are news articles.
So, off of that tangent, let’s briefly analyze the different reasons Anon could be here:
1. He has a lot of anger, and takes it out on pirates. This is possible; sometimes, people will go and troll on the web just to get out their anger.
2. He’s paid to do it. That could be another case.
3. He’s making a satire of the MAFIAA. Has anyone ever heard of Mark Twain? He wrote satire, esp. in Huckleberry Fin; he made satire of the slave trade. The Crucible (which was not by Mark Twain, lol) was a satire of the “Red Scare.” It could be possible that Anon is making satire of the MAFIAA.
4. This is the one I was enlightened about in a meditation. He could be one of our own torrent freak reporters, coming on and trying to cause a havoc in the comments.
Now, I am not trying to slander. All I am trying to do, is point out possibilities.

By: Finaro

Finaro — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:59:00 +0000

Are you people really out of touch with reality? Copyrights/Patents IS part of capitalism which is a another manifestation of property (hence what I mean that the wealthy few control the means of production by stealing everything of what everyone could have used for example we still breathe the air around us and in the past anyone could pick apples from a tree or drink water from the stream but someone puts a fence around that it’s clearly theft) which is putting a fence around ideas & innovation which is exactly the same as putting a fence around land (private property) putting a fence around women (marriage), etc. Also another thing that most people seem to forget that capitalism revolves around the exploitation of workers hence it’s exactly like slavery.

I think I maybe wasting my time arguing with liberals who would also call me a idiot if I said the sky was blue and totally ignore reality.