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	<title>Comments on: Irish RIAA Takes ISPs To Court To Force 3 Strikes</title>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572896</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is going to be bad for eircom at the end of the day, its the internet, freedom to the people.</description>
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		<title>By: Entertane.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572736</link>
		<dc:creator>Entertane.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Indústria discográfica processa ISPs irlandeses para obrigá-las a adoptarem resposta gradual &#124; Remixtures</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572587</link>
		<dc:creator>Indústria discográfica processa ISPs irlandeses para obrigá-las a adoptarem resposta gradual &#124; Remixtures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] agora e de acordo com o jornal Irish Times (via TorrentFreak), na semana passada a IRMA instaurou processos judiciais contra a BT Ireland - a segunda maior [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] agora e de acordo com o jornal Irish Times (via TorrentFreak), na semana passada a IRMA instaurou processos judiciais contra a BT Ireland &#8211; a segunda maior [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Uldis Bojars: http://digg.com/d1uR35 - voted for the &#34;Irish RIAA Takes ISPs To Court To Force 3 Strikes&#34; #blackoutirl story on digg &#124; www.gisvold.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572521</link>
		<dc:creator>Uldis Bojars: http://digg.com/d1uR35 - voted for the &#34;Irish RIAA Takes ISPs To Court To Force 3 Strikes&#34; #blackoutirl story on digg &#124; www.gisvold.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bojars  http://torrentfreak.com/irish-r... - voted for the &quot;Irish RIAA Takes ISPs To Court To Force 3 Strikes&quot; #blackoutirl story on digg  8 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bojars  <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/irish-r.." rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/irish-r..</a>. &#8211; voted for the &#8220;Irish RIAA Takes ISPs To Court To Force 3 Strikes&#8221; #blackoutirl story on digg  8 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; GetAnswers.ws</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572318</link>
		<dc:creator>Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; GetAnswers.ws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IRMA would like to put that to the test. It&#8217;s now sued two other Irish ISPs: the second largest telco (BT Ireland) and the largest cable ISP, UPC Ireland. UPC Ireland seems [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] IRMA would like to put that to the test. It&#8217;s now sued two other Irish ISPs: the second largest telco (BT Ireland) and the largest cable ISP, UPC Ireland. UPC Ireland seems [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572292</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: neostyles</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572291</link>
		<dc:creator>neostyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well atleast ireland has a pair.  Good job ireland.</description>
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		<title>By: KBKarma</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572175</link>
		<dc:creator>KBKarma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone brought up why IRMA is allowed to propose Eircom use the Three Strikes thing when it&#039;s illegal in the EU.

As I recall, the EU directive is that it&#039;s illegal for a government to force their ISPs to follow this. This doesn&#039;t apply to individual ISPs. Thus, IRMA has found a rather handy loophole, which they will exploit like mad.

I&#039;m currently connected to UTV Internet, which means they are sourced in the UK, which has quite plainly, as I recall, thrown out the Three Strikes thing as being breach of privacy or something similar.

BT may have the same protection, since it is originally a UK company that expanded into Ireland. UPC, on the other hand, is originally a Dutch company.

Of course, if each country&#039;s individual members are let alone, then it&#039;s doubtful that this will make a difference to any ISP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone brought up why IRMA is allowed to propose Eircom use the Three Strikes thing when it&#8217;s illegal in the EU.</p>
<p>As I recall, the EU directive is that it&#8217;s illegal for a government to force their ISPs to follow this. This doesn&#8217;t apply to individual ISPs. Thus, IRMA has found a rather handy loophole, which they will exploit like mad.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently connected to UTV Internet, which means they are sourced in the UK, which has quite plainly, as I recall, thrown out the Three Strikes thing as being breach of privacy or something similar.</p>
<p>BT may have the same protection, since it is originally a UK company that expanded into Ireland. UPC, on the other hand, is originally a Dutch company.</p>
<p>Of course, if each country&#8217;s individual members are let alone, then it&#8217;s doubtful that this will make a difference to any ISP.</p>
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		<title>By: Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; DodaPedia</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572170</link>
		<dc:creator>Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; DodaPedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IRMA would like to put that to the test. It&#8217;s now sued two other Irish ISPs: the second largest telco (BT Ireland) and the largest cable ISP, UPC Ireland. UPC Ireland seems [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; dv8-designs</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572128</link>
		<dc:creator>Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; dv8-designs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IRMA would like to put that to the test. It&#8217;s now sued two other Irish ISPs: the second largest telco (BT Ireland) and the largest cable ISP, UPC Ireland. UPC Ireland seems [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] IRMA would like to put that to the test. It&#8217;s now sued two other Irish ISPs: the second largest telco (BT Ireland) and the largest cable ISP, UPC Ireland. UPC Ireland seems [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open Rights Group Newsblog : Blog Archive &#187; Major music labels in court move to force Irish ISPs to act on downloads</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572127</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Rights Group Newsblog : Blog Archive &#187; Major music labels in court move to force Irish ISPs to act on downloads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source: IrishTimes.com via: Techdirt, TorrentFreak [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; Design Website Easy</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572121</link>
		<dc:creator>Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; Design Website Easy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IRMA would like to put that to the test. It&#8217;s now sued two other Irish ISPs: the second largest telco (BT Ireland) and the largest cable ISP, UPC Ireland. UPC Ireland seems [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] IRMA would like to put that to the test. It&#8217;s now sued two other Irish ISPs: the second largest telco (BT Ireland) and the largest cable ISP, UPC Ireland. UPC Ireland seems [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; Design Website</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572102</link>
		<dc:creator>Recording Industry Sues More Irish ISPs For Not Implementing 3 Strikes &#124; Design Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IRMA would like to put that to the test. It&#8217;s now sued two other Irish ISPs: the second largest telco (BT Ireland) and the largest cable ISP, UPC Ireland. UPC Ireland seems [...]</description>
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		<title>By: xn</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572053</link>
		<dc:creator>xn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is more than a battle over who should and shouldn&#039;t be allowed to download music. This is a battle over privacy and who you want snooping on your personal internet activity. 

Not only that but If enforced an ISP will have to come up with complex and expensive means for monitoring your connection. This is a problem in Ireland where lots of small wireless ISPs exist in the country-side many with a relatively small customer base and smaller profit margin. Will they too be forced to shell more than is profitable for a monitoring system? Most likely not and thus we may see a reduction in internet dispersion in the country....as if it isn&#039;t bad enough already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is more than a battle over who should and shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to download music. This is a battle over privacy and who you want snooping on your personal internet activity. </p>
<p>Not only that but If enforced an ISP will have to come up with complex and expensive means for monitoring your connection. This is a problem in Ireland where lots of small wireless ISPs exist in the country-side many with a relatively small customer base and smaller profit margin. Will they too be forced to shell more than is profitable for a monitoring system? Most likely not and thus we may see a reduction in internet dispersion in the country&#8230;.as if it isn&#8217;t bad enough already.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572046</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only the principle of what&#039;s good for the goose applied here. Then the IRMA could be accused of copyright infringement three times (say by a disgruntled artist ripped off by the recording industry), and then have its internet access cut off.

But we all know damn well it won&#039;t work that way. I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a clear double standard that excludes the IRMA or any major corporate entity from being treated the same as ISP users are.

And what about due process? Seems that you ought to be innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. And will there be an appeal process where the accused infringer can dispute the claims of those making the accusation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only the principle of what&#8217;s good for the goose applied here. Then the IRMA could be accused of copyright infringement three times (say by a disgruntled artist ripped off by the recording industry), and then have its internet access cut off.</p>
<p>But we all know damn well it won&#8217;t work that way. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a clear double standard that excludes the IRMA or any major corporate entity from being treated the same as ISP users are.</p>
<p>And what about due process? Seems that you ought to be innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. And will there be an appeal process where the accused infringer can dispute the claims of those making the accusation?</p>
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		<title>By: StevO</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572028</link>
		<dc:creator>StevO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>welcome to RIAA internet. Just goes to show you that the RIAA is more powerful than governments and Companys. They are the king and we are the servants. Fuck em. Bring back AOL so I can start paying for dial up modem and READ stuff on the internet. Lord knows I dont need to be paying $50 no more a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome to RIAA internet. Just goes to show you that the RIAA is more powerful than governments and Companys. They are the king and we are the servants. Fuck em. Bring back AOL so I can start paying for dial up modem and READ stuff on the internet. Lord knows I dont need to be paying $50 no more a month.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Gli ISP irlandesi si adeguano alla legge delle tre disconnessioni</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572027</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Gli ISP irlandesi si adeguano alla legge delle tre disconnessioni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Via &#124; Torrentfreak.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pirateprideWW</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572019</link>
		<dc:creator>pirateprideWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why you don&#039;t give in to terrorists. You only embolden them. If the Irish have any brains, an ISP that doesn&#039;t cave in to the MAFIAA will be able to steal some pretty impressive market share from the collaborationist ISPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why you don&#8217;t give in to terrorists. You only embolden them. If the Irish have any brains, an ISP that doesn&#8217;t cave in to the MAFIAA will be able to steal some pretty impressive market share from the collaborationist ISPs.</p>
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		<title>By: brim4brim</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/irish-riaa-takes-isps-to-court-to-force-3-strikes-090621/#comment-572003</link>
		<dc:creator>brim4brim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting about my tip :D

I don&#039;t think UPC will give in. Their network is so advanced over the rest of Irish ISP&#039;s that file sharing doesn&#039;t damage their contention with other users.

They want to get more market share so will support the file sharers IMO as long as they can.

Eircom are going bankrupt and owe probably in the region of 3 billion to banks so cannot afford to fight the case and a few other companies are looking at buying them out because of their financial difficulties.

I hope this gets resolved and that Irish consumers aren&#039;t treated as criminals for file sharing of any kind which I&#039;m sure is IRMA&#039;s intention.  They don&#039;t seem to really care if it is legal file sharing or not.  All file sharing is bad as far as their concerned because it all effects their bottom line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting about my tip :D</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think UPC will give in. Their network is so advanced over the rest of Irish ISP&#8217;s that file sharing doesn&#8217;t damage their contention with other users.</p>
<p>They want to get more market share so will support the file sharers IMO as long as they can.</p>
<p>Eircom are going bankrupt and owe probably in the region of 3 billion to banks so cannot afford to fight the case and a few other companies are looking at buying them out because of their financial difficulties.</p>
<p>I hope this gets resolved and that Irish consumers aren&#8217;t treated as criminals for file sharing of any kind which I&#8217;m sure is IRMA&#8217;s intention.  They don&#8217;t seem to really care if it is legal file sharing or not.  All file sharing is bad as far as their concerned because it all effects their bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
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		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And none of this matters anyways, since UPC is already throttling P2P uploads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And none of this matters anyways, since UPC is already throttling P2P uploads.</p>
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