http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_City_Studios,_Inc._v._Nintendo_Co.,_Ltd.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4602442.html

http://tech.mit.edu/V122/N32/long6-32.32w.html

http://www.ugo.com/music/top-50-music-scandals/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola

You want one scandal involving the industry?

I have one, when labels were paying radio stations to play some songs and not others that was a scandal was it not?

And there are so much more, from having speed tickets “cleaned out” to accounting schemes.

@63 Mr.Briggs – yes, some do, but what i meant was that ALL responses should appear instantly, and if they are flagged for moderation they can be removed later.

Reasoned Mind wrote:
“But that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve the same respect of payment for their contributions that analog factory workers (for instance) receive.”

Hey Odin, this looks like the ‘Special Pleading’ argument, using the word, ‘deserve’. What do you think?
As in; “The industry ‘deserves’ totalitarian control over everyone.”

I think I’d want to use something like a ‘Reasoned Mind’ moniker too, as an offset, if my arguments were thusly riddled. ;)

Piracy will never catch on and compel your bs “free for all” because people in general ALL want the value of their work to be financially credited back to them, regardless of the medium or the product, and people understand intuitively that to get that kind of respect for product and service, they must also give it. Anarchy is not a common thread in humanity, it’s a sad manifestation of minority social misfit.

If it will never catch on why all the fuzz then?
If it don’t catch on then there is no problem, if the majority pays what the f*** is the problem?

The problem is what you say is just BS and you know it that is why you come here and keep preaching all that BS to everyone. Calling people freetards, thiefs and etc.

But what you don’t understand or don’t care is that there is a public component in the market is called public domain and is were people do things the market for IP is a lot of bits and pieces the internet has proved it is not a market is a vector and is a vector for exchange of information and people use it, IP owners have no right to invade the public domain and demand anything and the vast majority concurs with that and that is why in Sweden people put the Pirate Party on the spotlight, that is why the majority of people said they didn’t want it another C-61 in Canada, that is why CNN, popsci, physorg all freetard sites as you put it had stories run. So the only guy who refuses to see anything is not the pirates is you.

The market for piss poor artists like yourself still exists don’t worry. No matter what there is always a dumb f*** that will by your s*** no matter how horrendous it is, radio didn’t kill the market it enhanced, video tapes didn’t kill the market it gave more revenues and so the internet will not kill the market and the people downloading are doing what they did well before a network was ever born, they are watching TV and radio, people don’t have the space in the HDD to archive every single song that they hear or every TV show or every movie it is just not technically possible today but it will be possible in the near future and still you will find morons willing to buy the next Britney Spears album with a photo that she has no panties on.

You can call what you want and get blue or explode it will make no difference people will share and will continue to do so as people will continue to buy s*** from the industry. But I’m not a costumer anymore, even if I couldn’t get it for free I wouldn’t buy(rent is more like it since I don’t own what I pay for).

And repeating the market for your kind unreasonable mind is still there you say is all free and you know it is not true people don’t storm stores to take CDs, DVDs, cups, t-shirts, caps, flops, board games, console games, mp3 players.

No you don’t see people doing that what you see is an industry that feels entitled to a market even though they never made any effort to make it happen, trying to grab more land at the expense of the people who have to let go their private lifes to let it happen, because every men, women and child is a pirate. Everyone listen to more music than they buy, everyone view more than they buy, everyone lend things to others, everyone throws a party, everyone copy and show what they learn to others and if that takes away an IP market I have no problem with it, because the owners of IP are parasites that don’t like to work for a living and keep leeching society and don’t bring real benefits to it not even commercial.