Oh boy did I get it for this one.. Atleast I got a fair trial.. My man actually threatened to drag me to court dressed in my BDSM gear.. I atleast tried to rectumfy it by by spewing more blubber from my filled mouth but it diddn’t work.. You can guess what happens next..

The thing is, technology has made the RIAA and the MPAA mostly obsolete as distribution media. They are trying to fight it just like other sharing technological advances in the past. They could change their business model
and use this new sharing technology to help them improve themselves. Instead, they are choosing to fight this new technology, this new advancement in sharing, and take thousands of people down with them using the courts. That is why I consider this to be the Copyright War. While no physical blood is being shed, blood in the form of money is being shed by both the industry giants and the thousands of people they are suing through court.

To give you some examples with some similarity, imagine how candle makers must have felt or how they reacted towards the invention of the light bulb. How about carriage builders and horse farmers with the invention of the car? What about almost every cottage artisan with the start of the industrial revolution?

Now imagine in one of those examples they had succeeded in stopping the technology by suing for damages. Would that really have been a good thing?

“at least it was meant in this way – to protect creators from distributors. Never was it meant to protect the distributors from the people”

the technology for distribution of content is for the first time in the hands of the people and what we see is the conflict between the old and the new, no prizes for guessing correctly who will win

and Bobe-On is correct there is a massive global industry earning a living wage from the bandwidth used by p2p

http://www.h33t.com when his day comes will say everything in court what tpb failed to voice

Apparently, the issue of bandwidth may be a bit of a distortion for the corporate ISP industry to both suck up to the MPAA and at the same time make yet more money. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

In a p2p mesh network– disruptive-technology and an ostensible future nightmare for every ISP– bandwidth increases with every peer:

“Wireless mesh architecture is a first step towards providing high-bandwidth network over a specific coverage area… Mesh architecture sustains signal strength by breaking long distances into a series of shorter hops. Intermediate nodes not only boost the signal, but cooperatively make forwarding decisions based on their knowledge of the network, i.e. performs routing. Such an architecture may with careful design provide high bandwidth, spectral efficiency, and economic advantage over the coverage area.”
–Wikipedia

To the minority who are still arguing against file-sharing:

It’s old hat. (10 years since Napster?) The arguments have already been made. Look ‘em up. File sharing needs to move forward, is moving forward, and needs to avoid being bogged down/lied to by the industry and its moles.

All for one and one for all.

and no i dont like the riaa or mpaa its just you faggots take this whole piracy thing too far. nobody gives a shit about linux distros or freeware torrents they want the GOOD SHIT like DVD SCREENERS that come out before the movie in theaters.

Sadly we live in a world were corporations wants come before the majority’s rights, heck look at how much public domain has been butchered in the name of cash hungry corporations greed….

anyway, my biggest gripe about these trials, from everything I’ve seen you’re convicted of a $5-million dollar crime on “evidence” that a savvy 10-year-old could reproduce for any IP in about 5 mins.

if you tried to convict me of robbing a gas-station by presenting as your evidence a note you typed and printed from your printer saying “John Doe robbed this gas station,” you would be laughed out of court. but this is essentially what the majority of these people are being accused on …

the whole thing is a freakin mess. can’t wait till the general public starts waking up and demanding better alternatives.

Hear hear! Well said!

The cartels have spent many decades if not centuries paying off politicians and lawmakers to create favorable conditions to them on copyright.

You cannot beat a system that is inherently biased from the start.

The jury system is especially flawed. How can you have a fair trial when you are not allowed peers with an understanding of the technology being used? Juries should be randomly chosen and NOT inspected or questioned on their knowledge or beliefs prior to a court case.

Seriously now. We in the world don’t have sane IP laws that make sense.
Those laws were preached and signed in a time when people didn’t need nor cared about those rights and now that they do there is an industry firmly planted inside and that won’t go away, without a fight which is fine I love challenges and will be fun to watch them screaming and trying to pose themselves as victims is all part of that big show called “life”.

So the industry don’t adapt but society also is slow to change, in many countries there is no infra-structure to defend people, EFF, UCLA and other organizations exist only in the U.S. and they should exist in all countries that is the civil infra-structure that will guarantee that governments and companies stay honest, this thing have many fronts, one is political, the other one is the civil structures that the people create to coupe with problems, and there is then the personal level.

1. To the law, technology matters, because law is only a guideline which has to be applied on a case by case basis. That is why we have courts. If those who make the decisions don’t understand the technological matters, how can they make just decisions? Hence the spectacles some courts have become …

2. There is no “intellectual property”. Property is a civilised solution to the problem of scarcity – but ideas and information, once published, are not scarce.
From this it follows that violation of a copyright is not a theft, since you are not taking anything from anyone else.

3. Copyright is not a right, it is a privilege that we the members of society give creators in the form of a temporary state enforced monopoly to provide incentive to create.
Or at least it was meant in this way – to protect creators from distributors. Never was it meant to protect the distributors from the people. But the distributors used their financial power to twist laws to their benefit. Is it such a surprise that so many are fighting against creating nonsensical scarcity where none naturally exists?

Distributors are becoming obsolete, since with internet anyone can become their own distributor. They are dinosaurs fighting the last battle against us, the people. They will lose, the only question is how far will they go – or more precisely how far will we let them go.

If artists used internet to distribute themselves, they would make much more money that they are currently given by greedy corporate distributors. Some already realized it, most still didn’t. The best thing we can do is support those artists who did, to prove they can be successful without bankrupting normal people. That will show other creators there is another way, and that will take the power away from the likes of MAFIAA.

So ergo that one cannot expect to win a P2P case in the majority of scenarios only a very narrow and still diminishing set off those said scenarios.

We the people were robbed of our rights and people just didn’t care enough before but that is changing soon the industry together with other industry may find themselves demonized like the catholic church is today and will lose control and power we just are not at the tipping point just yet, people still didn’t feel pain enough to spring them into action but it will happen because they will push for more insane laws and more land grabbing and it will reach a point were not only the hardcores will stop caring about hiding but joe on the corner will too.

Athenians, the first democracy in the world, considered elections undemocratic because it gives advantage to the rich and popular.

and democracy is the fake system they impose to lull the slaves into the false sense that they have some control of their destiny

http://www.h33t.com is Sparta!

This!

What people haven’t realized yet is that in this world there are only two types of people: The Rich and The Slaves. Slaves being that no matter how hard they try, not matter how much they work, they will always be working to pay bills, and TRY to go on with life with small things that make them still feel human. They will always be slaves to their jobs, corporate leaders, governments, bills, and many other rich individuals of society. The Rich however have a simpler definition; They have no worries. The laws protect them, and adhere to them, Our governments protect them, and we are slaves to them.

To this day The Rich have not realized that we (the slaves) are the reason why they are rich. We work for them. With out us as consumers and workers they are nothing! Yet they don’t care about us.

My name is Matthew Cusanelli
and I am a Slave

RT
http://www.anon-web-tools.net.tc

our own torrentfreak has been a big player contributing to the close association of filesharing with criminal piraxy due to its blind support of the “pirates” at tpb and the repeated “pirate” hyperbole. even when Sunde himself says the concept of “piracy” on his site was more in humour and not at all to do with criminal activity, people in the p2p scene who should have known better have been screaming from the mountains their support of “pirates”

prior to tpb and their jolly gang of followers, filesharing was in the mind of those who knew anything about it a fair use activity divorced from the criminal activity of copying retail products for distribution for profit. today, in the mind of the courts, the media cartel, the public at large, who do not know anything about filesharing except from what they have been provided from the anti-p2p propaganda machine, filesharing more or less equates to piracy

it is useful to note that 99.99% of the world’s media content, including the news, is owned and operated by the same cartel that produces the games, movies, music etc. the books in the schools, the tv content the potato people consume daily, the newspapers, all come out of the same source

this intrinsic link filesharing now has with criminal activity defines the context in which a court sits to consider the rights and wrongs of the contest. if a judge and a jury can be criticised for being biased then the big players in the filesharing world can be criticised for helping to create and support that bias. not one article exists on freak where a legal definition has been attempted to diferentiate filesharing from criminal activity and help forge a public understanding that in the new world of digital distribution filesharing is distinct from criminal action by the fact it is undefined in law due to the destructive nature of the technology. to be very clear: to fileshare is to break the current incumbent system for no other reason that bittorrent is very well understood to be economically a “destructive technology” and that in itself cannot be inherently criminal nor civily liable. to oppose filesharing is an attempt to criminalise technology, luddite is a term the cartel is familiar with

http://www.h33t.com banging on about it again, sorry but the message is not yet out there sufficiently. maybe the criminalisation of technology argument will gain ground

honestly, even though you “recover damages” on the creators behalf…do the creators actually even see a SINGLE DIME from what you`ve recovered??

funny thing, of all the P2P articles, that is never even brought up (except in those cases where the creator didn`t even know someone was being sued on their behalf…i guess if you don`t tell them you won`t have to pay them, right?)

I think we need to wait another, say 20 years, before the general populace catch up with us pioneers.

One download does not equal one lost sale.

As a matter of fact, the bands I listen to have profited from the one single download I made in high school years ago which got me interested in music.

Point the finger of blame at the multinationals. They ruin it for all the normal people.

The laws are unfair aswell as the trials. Laws and penalties are geared towards commercial/criminal levels of involvement rather than social/civil levels even if they do go under the guise of civil disputes.

The business models for entertainment industry will soon be 10 years out of date. Change the laws change the business model and stop criminalizing a large percentage of your citizens.

-Obey Music (OMB001D) // Nov 09

If you use your analogy, the man is already dead….

Law is generalizations. If law would’ve been applied blindly, we’d all be dead by now. That’s why courts exist – to solve situations, with the law trying to outline the ethical norms. But when law is blindly put above ethics and common sense – there is nothing to be proud about.

If someone would go to court and say – I was hit by electricity – so I was damaged and I want to sue the electricity company. Would the court not hear out how electricity works and how can one get hit by it? And then perhaps instead of suing the company who provides electricity, tell the man to not touch the wires with the bare hands?

The “industry” behaves like this person – it continues to hold the wires with bare hands and keeps on suing the electrons. All you have to do is let go of the wires.

American justice system does not even have laws anymore, just “guide lines”.

It takes only few lawyers who know how to talk and do theater to get a murderer walking free and the victim in the jail.
(And money for bribes, research, ect..)

As he noted,science, technology and production develop faster than laws and customs – thus the latter are always ‘behind the times’ – and in order to get them up-to-date – political and social agitation is necessary.

You can get the book, (and some others by Veblen) here:

http://www.vertor.com/torrents/371050/Four-Books-by-Thorstein-Veblen

Bankrupting people for life over a $20 album isn’t justice, they are hijacking that part of the legal system.

WE RULE THE WORLD WITH MONEY. YOU KISS OUR ASSES.