Isohunt and Torrentbox are determined to fight back

Ernesto
February 24, 2006
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Yesterday the MPAA launched their new round of lawsuits against some of the bigger torrent sites. Today Isohunt says they’re teaming up with torrentbox and other p2p-site operators, willing to fight for the “right for technological progress” and the legality of the (torrent) search engine itself.

Isohunt.com states:

At this point, it is still uncertain what they are actually suing us for, considering we have a thorough copyright policy outlining our stance and takedown procedures. It is sad that despite our best efforts in helping out copyright owners, in both disabling copyright infringing links to their works everyday while for others, helping them distribute their works globally and cheaply using P2P technologies, it is still not enough for the MPAA. Have they ever learned from the VCR or Napster? When will corporations stop fighting technology and learn to embrace it?

To this end, us, isoHunt.com and TorrentBox.com, are forming a coalition together with other P2P operators being sued and yet to be sued, and if possible with the help of the EFF, we will fight for the right for technological progress and the legality of the search engine itself. It is too early right now to say what we need for help from you, but if the MPAA will not back down, I’m sure we are going to need your help. And no, we will not go the way of LokiTorrent or Suprnova.

Anyways, nobody panic, and let the torrents flow.

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EMM

thank fuck for that at last a coalition getting together to fight the fuckers, much needed because united you stand and divided you will fall.
Flippy

I’ll help out gary any way I can.
http://torrentfreak.com Ernesto

I know flippy ;)
Vegetunks

hell yeah! i’ll help out in everyway i can!
Alexander De Large

This fight is insane. They will wear you down with their huge war chest. The best thing you can do is think laterally, and move the site(s) to a safe jurisdiction, where search engines are legal, like Sweden. No one cares where you are hosted, all the users want is to be able to search for torrents. Your country is undergoing conversion into a USSR style state. In this age, you can do something about it; publish somewhere else. All you have to do is get out your credit card, tar and bzip2 up the site and move it. If you don’t do this, you have only your selfs to blame. “Billy, don’t be a hero” the song goes…it applies directly to you. Unless you are going to go the “Tell me why!? I don’t like Mondays” route….lets not even go there.
Flippy

Well Gary is from Canada, torrentspy is on the line here. And the host in NL, but the company itself is in the USA. So it’s not about shutting down anymore, MPAA can actually do something if you live there. Thank god I’m polish.
ukaze

Once again enable dht and seed
ant

I am sure that SKY (the UK digital TV service) is using a p2p service for their download programme…which is very disimular to torrent…if not the same!!!!
ant

poked that last post !!!!!
I meant the same as torrent !!!!
whoops..
ukaze

Well the first one has gone

Just to recap for everyone just joining us now:

- The MPAA announced in a press release that they plan on sweing a bunch of torrent sites, search indexes, and other large P2P networks.
- We have not recieved anything legal from the MPAA, or their lawyers at this time.
- We have volunterilly removed all the torrents, related software, and databases from the site.
- We will more then likely NOT have anything to do with the P2P scene in the future.
- I understand that a lot of people are feeling upset, disgusted, angry, afraid, and suspicious about recent things relating to the forum, but please try and remain calm, and objective.

http://www.niteshdw.com
nVa

this is cool! Its like a tv show, every week a new episode!
Marten

I don’t know what to do with the dumb MPAA. It shouldn’t be hard to understand for a child but I think the MPAA is dumber :P

The technology isn’t to blame ! I can find stuff on Google to (so shut it down) and if google stays then the torrent search engines should to.

Also I think they should ban cars also. Think about how many lives would be saved when there is no cars to be abused by people(roadaccidents etc.)

This should prove that EVERYTHING we(humans) have inveted should be banned and shut down because there is a slimm change that somebody would abuse it.

The thing to do is let the torrent sites be and manage the content on there site as laws require.

Thank you!
lukos

I use torrent to wath tv series, I do not have a vcr so, when I miss a show, I download it, what’s wrong with that, recording it or downloading it, what the f– difference, except that I do not have to fast foward the tv ad …
lukos

MPAA don’t seem to be able to think that people does not have enought money to go to the theater to watch all movies, I pay to watch movies that I like, but, I download what I’ll never pay for. I’m not rich, and I’m not poor, but I have a life to live, and I don’t want to put all of my money to spent 7days/7 on the theater. I think that the movies industry are loosing more money trying to sued torrent site.
slepec

I agree with Marten, but…
If you shut down the servers, MPAA wins, and soon there will be some other “agency” sueing somebody else for doing some other, “illegal” thing. And in the end, they will sue the world for using the internet. And so goes the first amendment…, ironically.
So, I think, the most visited torrent sites should unite and fight back. Only an American agency full of stupid individuals that call them self MPAA is trying to sue everybody for the air we’re breathing.
slepec

Oh, and another point: what if somebody sued them because he’d paid whatever the price of the ticket, watched a “so-called” movie of the year, and only at the end realized how Sony, or Warner, or any other major studio had screwed his afternoon again, so it would be better if he donated that money to the local charity?
Myself

I use torrentbox :)
iceman

Well i hope torrentbox shuts down bcoz its the most piece of crap tracker i have ever seen.All the time torrentbox is just offline.I HOPE IT SHUTDOWNS.DEMONOID tracker which is inferno.demonoid.3389 rules the roost in the case of trackers.Also no prob if isohunt shut downs too bcoz we have got torrentz.com which is a better torrent search engine than isohunt.
ukaze

I cant even post what i think about that i dont want to get banned for my foul language.
Hawkeye

ICEMAN you are a stupid moron.
Chineseslayer

ICEMAN you suck … plain and simple
Norbert

It is obviously just about money. It is pointless to try to convince the MPAA that what they do this is unfair or injust. The employees of the MPAA need to show publicly that they are doing exactly what the Industry pays them for. It is therefore not the MPAA, but the Industry for whom it plays it’s role as watchdog that has to be convinced.
Martin

Loki Torrent was a scam, that guy didn’t get sued, he made it up so he could rake in thousands of dollars in donations.
iceman

Ya i know ppl u would critise me for sayin torrentbox is a piece of crap but ppl i have got proof see i have been tryin to dload Sleppless in Seattle which is a 1.37 gb torrent but for my misfortune it is tracked by torrentbox so whenever i start dloadin in the best torrent torrent client Azureus 2400 i always get a error of sort tht the tracker is offline and stuff and tht basically suckzz.The only time this torrentbox has worked nicely for me when i dloaded 2fast 2furious tracks due to some miracle it was online at that time.I really hope MPAA AND RIAA put torrentbox in its right place which is DUMP.
dee-man

fuck MPAA and their fathers. isohunt and torrentbox, coalition..gr8.

iceman….f U biatch
Chris

MPAA are greedy and ignorant…
Il live in Italy and now in Public Libraries they BORROW AT NO COST movies, including the best and several of the newest released DVDs, that of course apart VHS… What I at last want to say is that these sites, as much as the torrent itself is a new way of enhancing personal culture and nobody must fight back but learn to work aside it.
And one last but not least thing I want to say is; Many people who download many things, including any apps, movies or music if it weren’t free, probably would never get to have it. I download several things as well, but if it were to be based on my financial situation, I would have not possessed half of it.
a different chris

I think someone should also close down the libraries. How will the poor publishers make money if I borrow my books at no cost?
djad

mpaa, motion picture ass-ociation a$$hls…

well, pardon my english, perhaps i have mistaken on the acronym? who cares…

sharing isnt making a profit out of it. if i loan a tape to my friend to watch, is it a crime? its just a worldwide set of friends…

besides, its stuff we already saw on tv, or already watched on dvd… if i dont want to buy it, and i rent it or watch it at a friends house, isnt it the same?

of course they have some ground over copywright and stuff, but hey, im allowed to copy a tape for my own backup, and i am allowed to watchit with whoever i please, be it my home or his home, or anyones home…

fight MPAA… where do we sign?

by the way, what was that about the torrentbox? is that the reason all my tor which are at that tracker simply dont download any more? it just went up to some point, and now it wont download any more… and keeps doing it all the time, only with his tracked torrs…
Screw the MPAA

Why does the entire world fear and and usually bow down, pack up, and get the hell out of town, because of United States corperate giants, attorneys, bullies, like the MPAA?

How can a US judicial system control the way the ENTIRE world acts, and thinks?

Is there not a country or company with the balls to say (politly speaking)screw the US, and what there money hungry attorneys want?

In other words is there not a place, ex…(Sweden,Denmark,Germany,China,Japan, hell even Russia would do) to have a host that can and will say I don’t give a shit what the MPAA, there mother grandmother, father, uncle, attorney, hey for even that matter the damn president of the United States himself, or there affiliates like or dislike?

I’m gonna make this server burn the dam world down with free content?
colin

more attacks by US agencys on torrents site and P2P in general???.think about it a bit more????why is this and whos orchestrating these moves to close these web sites.doesnt take a lot of working out does it,think about all the names of the film studios,,,,meyer,goldwin,and the list goes on,well the profits and royalties from all the films ,where do they all end up????well you may ask yourself,the answer is simple,supporting the beloved homeland that doesnt belong to them.israelÂ¡Â¡Â¡Â¡Â¡Â¡Â¡but then i am a stupid idiot
Oss0-RS-~TOC~

Is there a way we can help because the government can’t force us or others to do or say anything.
Oss0-RS-~TOC~

Ice you better bend over and be ready to take it up the…
Google is a romodel for all sites, when the government told the major search sites to hand over the search records, all but Google handed them over…Google is small compared to AOL, Dog Pile, Microsoft, Yahoo, Jevees, etc.
So I salute you torrent sites (and Google).
Gerald

I salute all the major torrent search engines…
Let’s speak of the legality of their situation…
How in the world are they being sued for copyright infringement? That is just plain ridiculous!!! I have downloaded quite a few torrents and NEVER and I mean NEVER have I ever found a “Torrent” that was copyrighted.
A torrent is a small text file containing info on the larger file (sometimes copyrighted) that it points to. It contains the data necessary so that peers can transfer large files without straining anyones bandwidth. IT IS NOT THE COPYRIGHTED FILE! How stupid is the MPAA? The sites even have a takedown policy to satiate the greedy f^@kers… but are they satisfied, NO!
I don’t believe that legally ANY of the torrents should have to be removed…
Most of the sites I visit clearly state the disclaimer that the files themselves are not hosted via the site. I honestly think that they should fight back… the MPAA is required by our judicial system to meet a burden of proof, which obviously, they cannot…
If it were me in the battle, I would show the court the data comparisons to the two totally disimilar files. A torrent is a data file, but it is not copyrighted… and vice versa, a Copyrighted program is not a torrent file.
Regardless of their opinions of torrent trackers, they do not have the legal right propose frivolous lawsuits… Show this to be the case and they can no longer pursue these lines of altercation. The programmers and keeper of the torrent sites in their wisdom should know this…
These same individuals should file class action lawsuit against the MPAA, asking for monetary reimbursement, pain and suffering and punitive damages… the paper work is not very difficult and anyone who wishes to join in the suit feeling that the MPAA has wronged them, can do so. If nothing else the action will divert the industry’s attention and possibly gain notice in the News and other Media forms thereby further undermining their efforts to harass the innocent in pursuit of such a laughable cause. When they can prove that the torrents are copyrighted I will eat my hat…
There are many, many, other techniques that can be initiated to bring this Monster (namely MPAA) to its knees, and some of them also lack the legality as does their frivolous actions and threats.
Long live the Bit Torrent…

“If you aren’t part of the solution, you are part of the problem…” —-

Bruce Willis
from the movie ‘Die Hard’.
James

You nerds are so funny
MPAA

We’re going to get all you little Bit Torrent pricks until you are forced to buy Usenet access, which we now control. But when you start posting too much there, we will take it down also and force you to download over XBox Live for a premium per show/movie. We have won, biotches!
Platy

Interesting. The MPAA is going after search engines now. It is a smart move on the MPAA’s part though- Through the destruction of the indexes torrents will be difficult to find; thus slowing their use. The problem though? Torrents aren’t illegal. The act of downloading copyrighted material is (much like, in America, owning a gun is perfectly legal but shooting somebody is not). Repeat: TORRENT’S AREN’T ILLEGAL. They just plain aren’t. A torrent file only instructs the client to create a folder, reserve the hd space for the file, connect to other clients, and transmist data. That’s it. If I am correct about the MPAA on this, their main argument will be repeating their interpretation of the outcome of the Grokster case (the verdict was that p2p is legal as long as it doesn’t actively promote transferring Copyrighted work; such as by saying “OMG download the new movies here!!!”). The RIAA and MPAA misinterpreted the ruling as “All p2p is illegal!”, though I guess they don’t realize that a lot of programs used by people function in a somewhat p2p manner (such as Instant Messengers providing a fixed p2p arrangement; most chat clients can be said to function in a more loose-p2p/torrent manner, one person uploads their message to the chat server which is then downloaded by everyone’s client who is in the room. Which begs an interesting question, would posting text from a copyrighted source into a chat count as Copyright Infringement akin to torrents and p2p?). Sites like Torrentspy are search engines. Their only purpose is to index the data. It’s what people do with it that matters.
frosty

MPAA, i dont think you should be talking that way. your making yourself look bad. anyways i dont know why downloading is illegal. People will continue to do it no matter what the consequences are. I dont download myself but makes no sence of makin it illegal to download when we should be worrying about other big things like GANGS and MURDERES. this is small compared to that…..i also think is better for teenagers to download movies and have something to do instead of being out with bad influences and see them grow up in a unpleasent way and catch bad habits…. Thats My Point Of View…
frosty

MPAA, i dont think you should be talking that way. your making yourself look bad. anyways i dont know why downloading is illegal. People will continue to do it no matter what the consequences are. I dont download myself but makes no sence of makin it illegal to download when we should be worrying about other big things like GANGS and MURDERES. this is small compared to that.i also think is better for teenagers to download movies and have something to do instead of being out with bad influences and see them grow up in a unpleasent way and catch bad habits.Thats My Point Of View…
jonboy

What is it with the MPAA ??? cant they work it out for them selfs , they will hopefully loose the fight again . but not just that the money hungy cock suckin whore wont win either way .
bittorent is ere to stay and they wont solve anythin , all them idiots will do is make it bigger lmao!!! so they can kiss my english ass …. fight on isohunt nd good luck
nakho

Who agrees with frosty ??? I do 100%

[quote comment="41047"]MPAA, i dont think you should be talking that way. your making yourself look bad. anyways i dont know why downloading is illegal. People will continue to do it no matter what the consequences are. I dont download myself but makes no sence of makin it illegal to download when we should be worrying about other big things like GANGS and MURDERES. this is small compared to that.i also think is better for teenagers to download movies and have something to do instead of being out with bad influences and see them grow up in a unpleasent way and catch bad habits.Thats My Point Of View…[/quote]
Collin

I totally agree with Frosty. If I had teenage kids, I’d much rather they be locked in their rooms downloading movies and music than out egging cars and doing drugs…
master02

I totally agree the same
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Dave

hell shut the site down. start 10 more. they threaten to sue shut them down start 100 more etc.. I will donate through paypal to that cause!!!!!!
bill1

i know how to fight back. I vow to never go to another movie in a theater again!!

most of the movies out there are total crap anyways. if everyone did this, the mpaa would cease to exist. this is a simple solution, and it can work!
jimmy

fuck the record companies,and movie industry!
Allan

I download movies,music,T.V programs and may sound like a hippocrate, but I can see where there coming from, if there were no sights allowing the downloading of torrents of major movies and software these big companies would be making millions more, but at the same time I think movie theaters and CDs and software like everything else is way too overpriced. So the way I see it is that the public is getting even and a little justice, some people pay the full price and others do not. Technology rules. Too bad for the big companies. I’m sure companies didn’t like DVD burners either, why not sue them because dvd’s are used to COPY movies,software and etc, but again too bad thats technology. So the bottom line is I support you guys in your fight against the big companies who like to fleece the general public, it’s a dog eat dog world so enjoy it while we can.

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