Isohunt and Torrentbox are determined to fight back
Written by Ernesto on February 24, 2006Yesterday the MPAA launched their new round of lawsuits against some of the bigger torrent sites. Today Isohunt says they’re teaming up with torrentbox and other p2p-site operators, willing to fight for the “right for technological progress” and the legality of the (torrent) search engine itself.
Isohunt.com states:
At this point, it is still uncertain what they are actually suing us for, considering we have a thorough copyright policy outlining our stance and takedown procedures. It is sad that despite our best efforts in helping out copyright owners, in both disabling copyright infringing links to their works everyday while for others, helping them distribute their works globally and cheaply using P2P technologies, it is still not enough for the MPAA. Have they ever learned from the VCR or Napster? When will corporations stop fighting technology and learn to embrace it?
To this end, us, isoHunt.com and TorrentBox.com, are forming a coalition together with other P2P operators being sued and yet to be sued, and if possible with the help of the EFF, we will fight for the right for technological progress and the legality of the search engine itself. It is too early right now to say what we need for help from you, but if the MPAA will not back down, I’m sure we are going to need your help. And no, we will not go the way of LokiTorrent or Suprnova.
Anyways, nobody panic, and let the torrents flow.
This story will continue…
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MPAA are greedy and ignorant…
Il live in Italy and now in Public Libraries they BORROW AT NO COST movies, including the best and several of the newest released DVDs, that of course apart VHS… What I at last want to say is that these sites, as much as the torrent itself is a new way of enhancing personal culture and nobody must fight back but learn to work aside it.
And one last but not least thing I want to say is; Many people who download many things, including any apps, movies or music if it weren’t free, probably would never get to have it. I download several things as well, but if it were to be based on my financial situation, I would have not possessed half of it.
I think someone should also close down the libraries. How will the poor publishers make money if I borrow my books at no cost?
mpaa, motion picture ass-ociation a$$hls…
well, pardon my english, perhaps i have mistaken on the acronym? who cares…
sharing isnt making a profit out of it. if i loan a tape to my friend to watch, is it a crime? its just a worldwide set of friends…
besides, its stuff we already saw on tv, or already watched on dvd… if i dont want to buy it, and i rent it or watch it at a friends house, isnt it the same?
of course they have some ground over copywright and stuff, but hey, im allowed to copy a tape for my own backup, and i am allowed to watchit with whoever i please, be it my home or his home, or anyones home…
fight MPAA… where do we sign?
by the way, what was that about the torrentbox? is that the reason all my tor which are at that tracker simply dont download any more? it just went up to some point, and now it wont download any more… and keeps doing it all the time, only with his tracked torrs…
Why does the entire world fear and and usually bow down, pack up, and get the hell out of town, because of United States corperate giants, attorneys, bullies, like the MPAA?
How can a US judicial system control the way the ENTIRE world acts, and thinks?
Is there not a country or company with the balls to say (politly speaking)screw the US, and what there money hungry attorneys want?
In other words is there not a place, ex…(Sweden,Denmark,Germany,China,Japan, hell even Russia would do) to have a host that can and will say I don’t give a shit what the MPAA, there mother grandmother, father, uncle, attorney, hey for even that matter the damn president of the United States himself, or there affiliates like or dislike?
I’m gonna make this server burn the dam world down with free content?
more attacks by US agencys on torrents site and P2P in general???.think about it a bit more????why is this and whos orchestrating these moves to close these web sites.doesnt take a lot of working out does it,think about all the names of the film studios,,,,meyer,goldwin,and the list goes on,well the profits and royalties from all the films ,where do they all end up????well you may ask yourself,the answer is simple,supporting the beloved homeland that doesnt belong to them.israel¡¡¡¡¡¡¡but then i am a stupid idiot
Is there a way we can help because the government can’t force us or others to do or say anything.
Ice you better bend over and be ready to take it up the…
Google is a romodel for all sites, when the government told the major search sites to hand over the search records, all but Google handed them over…Google is small compared to AOL, Dog Pile, Microsoft, Yahoo, Jevees, etc.
So I salute you torrent sites (and Google).
I salute all the major torrent search engines…
Let’s speak of the legality of their situation…
How in the world are they being sued for copyright infringement? That is just plain ridiculous!!! I have downloaded quite a few torrents and NEVER and I mean NEVER have I ever found a “Torrent” that was copyrighted.
A torrent is a small text file containing info on the larger file (sometimes copyrighted) that it points to. It contains the data necessary so that peers can transfer large files without straining anyones bandwidth. IT IS NOT THE COPYRIGHTED FILE! How stupid is the MPAA? The sites even have a takedown policy to satiate the greedy f^@kers… but are they satisfied, NO!
I don’t believe that legally ANY of the torrents should have to be removed…
Most of the sites I visit clearly state the disclaimer that the files themselves are not hosted via the site. I honestly think that they should fight back… the MPAA is required by our judicial system to meet a burden of proof, which obviously, they cannot…
If it were me in the battle, I would show the court the data comparisons to the two totally disimilar files. A torrent is a data file, but it is not copyrighted… and vice versa, a Copyrighted program is not a torrent file.
Regardless of their opinions of torrent trackers, they do not have the legal right propose frivolous lawsuits… Show this to be the case and they can no longer pursue these lines of altercation. The programmers and keeper of the torrent sites in their wisdom should know this…
These same individuals should file class action lawsuit against the MPAA, asking for monetary reimbursement, pain and suffering and punitive damages… the paper work is not very difficult and anyone who wishes to join in the suit feeling that the MPAA has wronged them, can do so. If nothing else the action will divert the industry’s attention and possibly gain notice in the News and other Media forms thereby further undermining their efforts to harass the innocent in pursuit of such a laughable cause. When they can prove that the torrents are copyrighted I will eat my hat…
There are many, many, other techniques that can be initiated to bring this Monster (namely MPAA) to its knees, and some of them also lack the legality as does their frivolous actions and threats.
Long live the Bit Torrent…
“If you aren’t part of the solution, you are part of the problem…” —-
Bruce Willis
from the movie ‘Die Hard’.
You nerds are so funny
We’re going to get all you little Bit Torrent pricks until you are forced to buy Usenet access, which we now control. But when you start posting too much there, we will take it down also and force you to download over XBox Live for a premium per show/movie. We have won, biotches!
Interesting. The MPAA is going after search engines now. It is a smart move on the MPAA’s part though- Through the destruction of the indexes torrents will be difficult to find; thus slowing their use. The problem though? Torrents aren’t illegal. The act of downloading copyrighted material is (much like, in America, owning a gun is perfectly legal but shooting somebody is not). Repeat: TORRENT’S AREN’T ILLEGAL. They just plain aren’t. A torrent file only instructs the client to create a folder, reserve the hd space for the file, connect to other clients, and transmist data. That’s it. If I am correct about the MPAA on this, their main argument will be repeating their interpretation of the outcome of the Grokster case (the verdict was that p2p is legal as long as it doesn’t actively promote transferring Copyrighted work; such as by saying “OMG download the new movies here!!!”). The RIAA and MPAA misinterpreted the ruling as “All p2p is illegal!”, though I guess they don’t realize that a lot of programs used by people function in a somewhat p2p manner (such as Instant Messengers providing a fixed p2p arrangement; most chat clients can be said to function in a more loose-p2p/torrent manner, one person uploads their message to the chat server which is then downloaded by everyone’s client who is in the room. Which begs an interesting question, would posting text from a copyrighted source into a chat count as Copyright Infringement akin to torrents and p2p?). Sites like Torrentspy are search engines. Their only purpose is to index the data. It’s what people do with it that matters.
MPAA, i dont think you should be talking that way. your making yourself look bad. anyways i dont know why downloading is illegal. People will continue to do it no matter what the consequences are. I dont download myself but makes no sence of makin it illegal to download when we should be worrying about other big things like GANGS and MURDERES. this is small compared to that…..i also think is better for teenagers to download movies and have something to do instead of being out with bad influences and see them grow up in a unpleasent way and catch bad habits…. Thats My Point Of View…
MPAA, i dont think you should be talking that way. your making yourself look bad. anyways i dont know why downloading is illegal. People will continue to do it no matter what the consequences are. I dont download myself but makes no sence of makin it illegal to download when we should be worrying about other big things like GANGS and MURDERES. this is small compared to that.i also think is better for teenagers to download movies and have something to do instead of being out with bad influences and see them grow up in a unpleasent way and catch bad habits.Thats My Point Of View…
What is it with the MPAA ??? cant they work it out for them selfs , they will hopefully loose the fight again . but not just that the money hungy cock suckin whore wont win either way .
bittorent is ere to stay and they wont solve anythin , all them idiots will do is make it bigger lmao!!! so they can kiss my english ass …. fight on isohunt nd good luck
Who agrees with frosty ??? I do 100%
[quote comment="41047"]MPAA, i dont think you should be talking that way. your making yourself look bad. anyways i dont know why downloading is illegal. People will continue to do it no matter what the consequences are. I dont download myself but makes no sence of makin it illegal to download when we should be worrying about other big things like GANGS and MURDERES. this is small compared to that.i also think is better for teenagers to download movies and have something to do instead of being out with bad influences and see them grow up in a unpleasent way and catch bad habits.Thats My Point Of View…[/quote]
I totally agree with Frosty. If I had teenage kids, I’d much rather they be locked in their rooms downloading movies and music than out egging cars and doing drugs…
I totally agree the same
hell shut the site down. start 10 more. they threaten to sue shut them down start 100 more etc.. I will donate through paypal to that cause!!!!!!
i know how to fight back. I vow to never go to another movie in a theater again!!
most of the movies out there are total crap anyways. if everyone did this, the mpaa would cease to exist. this is a simple solution, and it can work!
fuck the record companies,and movie industry!
I download movies,music,T.V programs and may sound like a hippocrate, but I can see where there coming from, if there were no sights allowing the downloading of torrents of major movies and software these big companies would be making millions more, but at the same time I think movie theaters and CDs and software like everything else is way too overpriced. So the way I see it is that the public is getting even and a little justice, some people pay the full price and others do not. Technology rules. Too bad for the big companies. I’m sure companies didn’t like DVD burners either, why not sue them because dvd’s are used to COPY movies,software and etc, but again too bad thats technology. So the bottom line is I support you guys in your fight against the big companies who like to fleece the general public, it’s a dog eat dog world so enjoy it while we can.
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