The pay-for model will work when enough people have been sued or put behind bars. Which is a remote possibility depending on the success of MPAA in the courts.

As it stands, it likely will have a small market. The copy-right owners really don’t have a lot to lose. As it stands, people are already downloading their stuff for free. So why not offer legitimate downloads for 25 cents a pop. Anything is more than nothing.

Several years ago, no one would have thought that people would pay for music downloads. But I know tons of people who use services like itunes, walmart, etc. and pay for music.

Keep it cheap and make it easy to use. that’s the key. It will just take a little time to change people’s download behaviors as it relates to movies, anime, porn.

If there’s enough of a legal threat to downloaders, and the prices are reasonable, why wouldn’t people pay for it?

cowdung and co are trying to force the world to adapt to them.

they will always be stepped on, and rightfully so!

Then I realized I was on the internet.
:D

IH, personally I think that’s a great idea.
Will it work? No.
What about people who sign up, and download these high-quality torrents and then put them up on TPB? You can’t put DRM because the world is going to hate you for that.

If you can make this work, then by all means go ahead. Just don’t turn your back on free p2p :)

Now, please, eat shit and die.[/quote]

LoL you make me laugh, surely the prize for the most cliche ridden troll should go to you! Those few statements you have made are so stupid i dont even have to counter them… just PMSL

3. I use to use your site constantly but dwindled in turn of the lawsuit from the MPAA… Nobody said you had to take on that fight… You are in CANADA!.. Let the CRIA etc come after you, then fight a lawsuit. What reason would you fight this? Will they arrest you if you travel into the US? Will they send the Cdn police after you?? What possible reasons?

6. Gary now cmon your in Canada! Without much choice for an ISP… Id love to hear from you regarding a GOOD ISP!! Rogers = HELL ON EARTH for P2P. Bell = Bandwidth charges yet, anybody? I just got done testing a dsl setup.. Couldnt even get highspeed dsl.. So should I stick with rogers or? HTTP is FAR FASTER on Rogers without a doubt.. To sum it up.. P2P is becoming usesless within Canada… We may not even be able to p2p within Canada, within a few years.. Yes it is that bad..

This article is designed to “get a response” but it wasn’t the one I was looking for.. To all those **tards out there stop bashing something/someone you know so little about, hell I bet most of the bashers havent even used isohunt.

Music will still be made without copyright. Just there will be a lot less annoying pop stars that are in it for the money and a lot more real artists who can use the internet to get their music out to the world. Now, as it is, those real artists have a hard time getting through to the world on the internet because of the profit driven people.[/quote]

The original goal of copyright is, as I said, to encourage the creative arts. Sure, musicians will continue to make music and people will continue to play, but people also have to eat.

And I’ve heard about the “profit is in live performances not CD/downloads” argument many times. Sure, concerts have always been a money maker for artists. Same applies for the movies’ Box Office. But if you can profit from CD/DVD/downloads also, will you? And people do buy from iTunes.

The problem is not with copyright, but a legal environment and marketplace that allows new internet distribution services to be developed in a way that people can easily buy what they want, free of DRM’s useless inconvenience, while still giving copyright holders some recourse against mass piracy. I don’t need the DMCA to give copyright holders that, it’s only fair. Put yourself in their shoes.

And don’t argue fair use, I know. I am in fact doing something about that.

[quote comment="147427"][quote]6) And why P2P for paid downloads? Because P2P is cheaper and faster than server-client (regular HTTP) and part of that cost saving will be passed to you who pay.[/quote]

While technically true, savings for companies are rarely ever passed down to the people who buy stuff.

Companies will think “With lower costs for us, we have two choices: Keep the same profits and make the price more fair, or keep the price the same and make more profits”. Which do you think they will choose?[/quote]

I will pass cost savings to you if/when we sign up content producers on our sites (present and future). That was my point.

[quote comment="147425"]IH,

I can’t agree with 6). P2P is only faster under particular circumstances, such as when there are a lot of seeders. Anyone familiar with torrent downloads knows that there’s usually a “window of opportunity” when a download is fast, reliable, and frankly, available. That’s just a consequence of the “social” nature of torrents.

Paying customers won’t tolerate slow downloads because they’re selection is six-months old and the original seeders have moved on.[/quote]

Not true. You are talking about 100% consumer to consumer download. I’m talking about the same but supplemented by large server bandwidth. Think iTunes download bandwidth + your usual P2P bandwidth from consumer level peers. The resulting sum can only be faster than either alone.

And you have shown yourself as the true good shepherd, now fuck off unless you have something smart to say. Go back where you came from and polish your useless bachelor degree in arts.

[quote comment="147476"] you will see he has his head screwed on and is working on solutions.[/quote]

Oh, his head IS screwed, I can commend you on saying that, but until you worthless fuctards come up with a new economic model of content distribution, and present it to the RIAA and MPAA assholes, don’t even bother to brainstorm.

Now, please, eat shit and die.

If any of you can lay of the abuse and derogatory attacks for fiv minutes and and actually look at what the guy is saying, you will see he has his head screwed on and is working on solutions.

The whole tone of this article is propaganda like anyway, its deliberately intended to be provocative.

What the fuck is wrong with you man? No one will EVER pay for P2P downloading, because you can always find it for FREE! It’s the economic model that needs to be changed, not the people’s habits, you moron. When you get your head out of your ass, you might even realize that people will never pay for something available somwhere else, like those 25.000 private sites or those public ones that beat the shit out of your lame IsoHunt.

P.S. I stopped using your site over a year ago, because it sucks balls. You’re going down boy, and TPB owns your sorry ass.

I agree, being racist over this is stupid and it makes one look ignorant.

[quote]1) My communist comment was sarcasm, sorry if it wasn’t obvious[/quote]

No matter who you are, incase you havn’t noticed, sarcasm is not the most easy thing to portray over the internet ;)

[quote]For ppl not in the US asking why we are “caving in”, you don’t understand the complicated legal issues involved but I have my reasons,[/quote]

I understand that facing a lawsuit is probably pretty scary and stressful.

Maybe you should move to sweden?

[quote]Afterall, you don’t get to share what is not made.[/quote]

Music will still be made without copyright. Just there will be a lot less annoying pop stars that are in it for the money and a lot more real artists who can use the internet to get their music out to the world. Now, as it is, those real artists have a hard time getting through to the world on the internet because of the profit driven people.

[quote]6) And why P2P for paid downloads? Because P2P is cheaper and faster than server-client (regular HTTP) and part of that cost saving will be passed to you who pay.[/quote]

While technically true, savings for companies are rarely ever passed down to the people who buy stuff.

Companies will think “With lower costs for us, we have two choices: Keep the same profits and make the price more fair, or keep the price the same and make more profits”. Which do you think they will choose?

I can’t agree with 6). P2P is only faster under particular circumstances, such as when there are a lot of seeders. Anyone familiar with torrent downloads knows that there’s usually a “window of opportunity” when a download is fast, reliable, and frankly, available. That’s just a consequence of the “social” nature of torrents.

Paying customers won’t tolerate slow downloads because they’re selection is six-months old and the original seeders have moved on.

You want to make us to believe that you are that Asian who runs IsoHunt. If that’s true, you should be ashamed by yourself. You made (and still make) money with us. When we visit your site, we are good, because maybe we will click your SPAM! Why in the hell you call us TARDS? Probably because we used your lame site?

Let me tell you something You shitty china face… Take your site and finger it deep right in your yellow ass you stupid gay. Don’t you realize that WITH or WITHOUT YOU is the same thing?

And now Go To Hell!

The intent would be that the content you pay for would be better quality than the pirate versions, at a reasonable cost. Whether that is possible or not remains to be seen.

Of course people will continue to pirate stuff, that’s a fact of human nature. But some of us are willing to pay for legal copies after downloading a pirated copy of media that they liked.

I download a CD first. Then if I like it I pay for it. If I don’t like it I delete it. Same theory as people that borrow music/movies/books from their local libraries.

1) My communist comment was sarcasm, sorry if it wasn’t obvious

2) We run 2 trackers on torrentbox.com and podtropolis.com. Torrentbox’s tracker should be 2nd biggest after TPB’s, and I have always commended their large tracker (although we have different stance on copyright)

3) Capitalist sold out? Incredible. TPB made more from porn ads and I have always said no to them. But lets not point fingers again. All sites of size we are talking about makes money, and not money you have to pay for so STFU.

4) For you ppl from the US, I’m fighting a much expensive lawsuit from the MPAA because of your stupid laws. For ppl not in the US asking why we are “caving in”, you don’t understand the complicated legal issues involved but I have my reasons, and the way we handle copyright issues and US laws will change eventually.

5) Say what you will about copyright, capitalism, so on and so forth but if you stand to reason, the intent of copyright _was_ to encourage the creative arts. Copyright laws need reform, not abolishing. And the only way forward is together with copyright holders. Afterall, you don’t get to share what is not made.

I don’t know if I can explain any clearer.

And Torrentfreak, shame on your baseless sensationalized commenting yet again. WTF did I say we are after “MPAA-approved movie downloads”? Copyright and all things that can be copyrighted is far bigger than MPAA and their movies, Long Tail et al. and I didn’t refer to want to work with any copyright holder in particular, just in general. Stop putting words in my mouth.

I’m done with isoHunt.

I’m confused still on why he called TPB admin a communist?