but this just makes me WANT to create something new like that!

Lookin4Trouble, I think you should label yourself IANAL as I don’t think you are giving informed legal opinion as you think you are.

Hello @ Hello !

Fair points, allow me to respond.

No, I don’t expect them to say “come and get someone else’s beer”. But I was surprised to see that they are using hyper politically correct language in their t.o.s., including severe limits on content and “speech”, regardless of the copyright status.

Furthermore, a distinction can be made between this (Hexagon) and other sites, as this one wants users to establish a social
network part-and-parcel to file sharing. Connecting the two allows the provider to establish a robust database about you, your
likes, your media habits, and your opinions all connected to an email address, IP, (even your picture?) ALONG with a circle of
people sympathetic to your views/media tastes. You are also supposed to use your “real” identity, according to the TOS, so I guess you have to come out of the closet on every front – no privacy vis-a-vis their policy.

All this has lots of potential for abuse there – more so than ISOHunt. It’s like a honey pot with the bees still in it when the bear puts his claws in.

Or, are users not rrreally expected to follow the TOS – as it is just there for “legal” reasons? The “don’t post copyright stuff”
disclaimer didn’t protect the PirateBay, so it isn’t clear how it will help them at Hexagon – it serves no tangible legal purpose
- it seems more like a placebo or wishful thinking on the part of the admins that it will somehow, magically protect them from
prosecution. The recent ruling against Mininova, that they don’t do enough to remove disputed content fast enough, demonstrates
that a disclaimer is moot and wholly a useless appendix. Time and time again history has shown that a TOS that forbids copyright
material sharing has no impact on the (il)legality of the behaviour of users and the liability of those who run the site: think
Piratebay, Torrentspy, Mininova, Napster, etc.

When was the last time a judge ruled in favour of a defendant that the TOS made a file-sharing site operator not responsible for

what was posted there? References? News articles? Show how and when that a TOS protects them.

All torrent sites have to use such terms. It’s for their own protection. Or what did you expect? Terms like: “Here it’s allowed to share warez”? Even on the piratebay site it says it’s not allowed to share copyrighted stuff without permission.

And if they want to run a honeypot they wont have to open a second site. They would use isohunt for that purpose.

Read their terms of use agreement: they don’t consider your IP to be private. IE they record it.

They state that they also record all your account activity and permanently back it up. What you upload, download, when, for how long. All permanently backed-up and associated with your IP. Unlike other sites that don’t do that, they will happily make available all of that information to the MPAA, RCMP, PTA, YMCA, etc. etc. should you happen to upload a video you made with a Jessica Alba poster hanging in the background (You are using a copyrighted image and likeness) and the copyright holder complains… and copyright holders employ people for the express purpose of complaining to authorities.

They could easily dump that data when your session ended, but NOOOO.

You cannot delete your account from their backups. So your disobedient behaviour will be there forever! Lake of fire here I come. The baby Jesus(TM) is going to cry!

Furthermore, they encourage you to give a VALID email address (yes you can set one up for just this purpose…) which many people will divulge at their potential peril – all permanently backed up.

They also have a draconian, un-free speech policy. Apparently, you cannot use avatars or names depicting/impersonating cartoon characters or celebrities. So forget using your Spongebob(TM)-head-Tia-Carerre-body (is that body TM-ed?) animated jpeg. Das ist Verboten!

If that wasn’t bad enough, neither can you claim to be president of the world, the queen of Sheba, or Howard Sterns’ inflatable doll, I quote:

“(you cannot) create a false or misleading identity of, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent, your affiliation with, a person or entity.”

Oops! No data for you!

You cannot post anything that MIGHT be harmful to children like: Pokemon(TM) cartoons that caused seizures in the 90s or re-enactments of your favourite A-Team episodes – violence; or news clips of Michael Jackson hanging his baby over the railing
(That’s vulgar, obscene, and harmful/disturbing to children, isn’t it?) I imagine saying “BOO” isn’t allowed as it might scare the elderly, the faint of heart, and college kids on LSD.

You cannot say or post anything ‘obscene’ or ‘vulgar’ or ‘racist’ – all nice terms that are open to wide-as-the-Suez-canal interpretation. So no videos of the Toronto Film Festival protesters saying Palestinians are being left out by some Israeli sympathetic organizers! So says Naomi Klein! That’s racist x2! The CBC can report it, but don’t post it on Hexagon ‘cus it’s hate, racist and ethnically vulgar! What about news reports of how some Chinese restaurants in Toronto in the 1990s Toronto failed basic health and safety inspections? Racist! Ethnically vulgar! Defamatory! Full of MSG!

Off with your head!

Naw man, nice idea, except it’s a bad idea. They are enemies of everything that the internet is about. The only thing you are allowed to post is:

-Anything that is not copyrighted (unless you have permission to post it): NO popular music (sucks anyway); NO Feature Films; NO Smurfs; NO Yul Brynner pics; NO books (but I guess you could post pictures of yourself BURNING Books unless, of course, a librarian complains)

-Anything that no one will find offensive, vulgar, racist, obscene, intelligent, or truthful: NO politics, NO violent images, NO ‘dirty’ jokes, NO quotes from the Bible(TM), NO full monteys, NO Carebear-count-downs.

Maybe you could post videos of a static-snow screen, but then you’d be impersonating THEM from Poltergeist.

Can’t work out how to upload torrents though.

Or whether they actually have a tracker or not.

Does anyone know?

Thanks! <3

It’s amazing! But I have to say that from an outside observant perspective, because it doesn’t FEEL amazing while I use it… It just feels “natural” and “normal”! Which is why it’s amazing! LOL, I bet only two people will understand what I mean…

But yes. I hate Twitter, I hate Facebook/MySpace. But I can totally dig this. When you’re sharing personal creations, Hexagon just plain does the things I’ve wanted sites to do without even realizing it.

500 reg: http://film.hexagon.cc/invitations/zBzAMljG24

@IH, H33T, … Tribler next upcoming version will include group creation-like features. The Tribler version will be crafted without the requirement of a central server bottleneck.

10 invites

thanks in advance :)

http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:hexagon.cc/invitations/&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=BSE&filter=0

actually that is an excellent idea …

good bunny, i love and trust that your code is opensource, it means you are one of us :-D

http://www.h33t.com having a great week

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