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By: The laughing Poster

The laughing Poster — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:28:31 +0000

Although the industry may have a few hurdles to go through, like the commercial interests of the ISPs, human rights declarations, the right to privacy, &c., they will eventually get around them if they are not opposed by the populace. And for sure, they have gotten around the lot of these hurdles at least in Ireland. But still, these kinds of things can be reversed: the vote is supreme, and that is the only way to oppose them.

Roze you can keep printing your bullshite all you want, but please enlighten us on exactly WHAT does this “human rights declarations, the right to privacy” have to do with anything? I have checked the laws in The Emerald Isle and the EU as well and NOWHERE does it say that having an internet account is a human right. Also Roze, NOWHERE in Ireland NOR the EU does anything give it’s citizens the “right to privacy” I am very sorry Roze and this is going to be hard for you in Europe to deal with considering that you constantly try to imply that it is some kind of paradise just because you pay 70% of your pay in taxes and then claim you get “free” stuff that your taxes actually pay for (an oxymoronic statement if I have ever heard one)
But now you have to understand that you can be shut off from the net a any time. So you go on and continue to post your bullshite if it makes you fell better, me? I am going back to doing what I have always done because I was seemingly smarter then the whole pack of posters as I got my internet account via the people in the US midwest who actually RUN and OWN the internet according to the World Court in the Hauge and the UN. And they have old the record and movie companies to shut up and leave them alone or they would turn THEM off form the net. So unless xxxnet changes their mind, I am really the only safe person on this thread!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 04:55:16 +0000

You bunch of thieves

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By: Faquarl

Faquarl — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:07:31 +0000

Well personally yeah i dl lots and lots of music and they may not think that is right so there going to start tracking for peer to peer but i mean its only music right? I mean it just seems to me that instead of wasting the time and effort on trying to catch out usually law abiding people on dl music that they should try sort out people who dl things like kiddy porn and stuff, isn't that a bigger, more serious issue than people getting a few free tracks? priorities seem to be quite lacking sense here….

By: sharky

sharky — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:29:52 +0000

but im on a kickass tracker :(and im no scener

By: Finton

Finton — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:38:41 +0000

I doubt people will leave Eircom. I just figure the Eircom users will ignore their letters, let themselves get cut off eventually at which point they'll then move to another ISP. Do that until you find one that won't risk losing customers.

I'm not on Eircom. I don't know if I'd move, myself. Preempt them with a giant F*** you! or just wait it out. Meh. Suffice to say, this little cop out will have no real effect, except to screw Eircom up a little more. Never a bad proposition.

By: Finton

Finton — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:33:45 +0000

Our Minister For Health is not just grossly over weight, she's on the booze in a serious way while also facing marital difficulties.

And Bertie, dear Bertie. What a legend. How many people here think its believable that a Minister for Finance wouldn't have a bank account?

As you said, AA, the place is in shit.

On the matter of Eircom, I don't care. I'm in the 25%. My ISP is so new that they won't even bother paying attention to this thing. Eircom would have done better to pay damages than capitulate. Wait for them to be forced to cut people off in this new agreement and we'll see people flocking to Perlico. Which I'm not with either, who'll be the next target of MGM or whoever. Which suits me fine.

Problem is, of course… You get cut off by Eircom. What stops you from signing up to another ISP? Eircom cuts your line too? Satellite. Works for me. We do need Encryption. And we do need political pressure. I just don't see the latter working very well short of the Socialists picking up the pace. Which I don't expect.

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By: Roze

Roze — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:58:55 +0000

It is not good argumentative form to presume certain assumptions which are not true, namely, that sharing is stealing, which is false.

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By: Binsy

Binsy — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:43:34 +0000

This is an absolute disgrace. The irish should be ashamed for letting this happen. I'd leave Eircom immediately and sign-up with another ISP, let them know your feelings by leaving in big numbers.

By: goatster

goatster — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:39:22 +0000

then i guess you will lose your customers. what a shame….

By: Totz

Totz — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:04:06 +0000

This has got fail written all over it, the Irish people won't take kindly to threats by the big 4. If anything, people will download more and just leave eircon

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By: brim4brim

brim4brim — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:15:32 +0000

Everyone opposed to this, please email comreg (communications regulator) consumerline@comreg.ie

You don't have to be Irish to email them but it helps if you are I guess :shrugs:

Should mail bomb them with privacy concerns. They don't do anything about us having the second highest line rental in the world or the fact that eircom have a complete monopoly in most of the country or the thousands of problems with 3 mobile BB users (who got fucking awarded 90 million by the state the other day to roll out a new network so everyone can get their shit service).

Send the same mail to the Minister for communications on the issue (contact details on below page) who will also do nothing and who lies all the time about the state of infrastructure because most people are too stupid to know any better.

http://www.eamonryan.ie/contact/“target=”_blank”>http://http://www.eamonryan.ie/contact/
Then email the last word with Matt Cooper who highlights these on radio at a time when everyone is stuck in traffic on the way home. One of the most popular radio shows in the country.

http://www.todayfm.com/Contact-Us.aspx“target=”_blank”>http://http://www.todayfm.com/Contact-Us.aspx

Let them know you contacted each of them on the issue. Doesn't matter what you say as long as you voice opposition to this.

By: Chickenuts

Chickenuts — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:39:27 +0000

You're totally right Sharky I know at least 6 people who download through hacking their neighbours modems. Whats Eircom going to do when they cut someone off for p2p downloading and it turns out that it wasn't them at all and their modem was hacked by some random person? I don't think they'll be able to cut anybody off.

By: ragbagsoc

ragbagsoc — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:02:25 +0000

Apart from cable and wireless/satellite broadband, all irish ISPs pay Eircom for use of their exchanges and phone lines. Cable is available in only a few small parts of a few large cities, and even then is very poor. Satellite and wireless broadband are completely useless for most broadband applications – gaming, voip, etc.. Therefore if you want decent broadband in Ireland you go through Eircom whether you want to or not, and Eircom get a cut of your money.

By: ragbagsoc

ragbagsoc — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:57:36 +0000

perhaps its because not everyone is a thief like you and don't mind paying for music?

By: ragbagsoc

ragbagsoc — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:55:42 +0000

quitter!

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By: fooe

fooe — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:27:40 +0000

with so many false accusations of piracy against people already, i dont understand how they could disconnect people without taking them to court first. Surely Eircom is going to get sued when they disconnect an innocent IP?.

By:

Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:03:28 +0000

you mean like hippies that never took over

By:

Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:00:07 +0000

18 M/y ? lol thats peanuts for a country budged

By: Antirip

Antirip — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:08:42 +0000

I wouldn't worry about it too much sharky, there are plenty of ways to download. Stay away from the likes of Limewire and stick to hosting sites, usenext etc. This will not work, FACT

By: mark

mark — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:07:46 +0000

If they start disconnecting poeple. I can’t imagine how that’s not vigilantism. And that as far as i know is forbidden in every democratic country.

By: Captain

Captain — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:32:41 +0000

Awaiting the Digital Britain review to see whether the UK is terminally fucked. The 3 strikes rule doesn't look likely but "Legislation Labour" will probably be up to their usual Orwellian recipies.

By: sharky, shannon

sharky, shannon — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:25:53 +0000

yeah im on upc now to ,20mbit ftw
fuckin eircom shite.
hey man you know the way eircom are changing ppls lines for free?
use the wepgen to get their serial from the bottom of a 'hacked' router (tis intrinsic to how it works) ring eircom say the address and the serial number they change the line from 1 or 3 mbit to 7, all for free n their end. the 'victim' gets faster lines.
faster means you can obtain more torrents off public trackers and shit, BEFORE EIRCOM ARE FORCED TO DISCONNECT THE CUSTOMERS LOL
FUNNY THING IS I DONT EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF OUR MINISTER FOR COMMUNICATIONS.
I MEAN, WHAT IS THE FUCKIN POINT?
/ME SIGHS….

By: jos

jos — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:12:09 +0000

dosen't ireland have privicy rights which prevent irma and eircom from monitoring internet activity .
I use UPC bb and bt at home no eircom. never will use eircom now

By: sharky, shannon

sharky, shannon — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:07:52 +0000

the pirate bay has already helped hosting the wepgen here:http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3831026/Eircom_Ne…

if you need a carrier i can ul to RS….

By: sharky, shannon

sharky, shannon — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:04:39 +0000

in fact Torrentfreak, i would like if you made the availability of this knowledge widespread.
no worries about legal issues, its white-hat, proof of concept if you will.

ONLINE WEP GEN: http://s4dd.yore.ma/eircom/
DO SOME RESEARCH TO FIND THE METHOD, IT MAKES A GOOD STORY + ITS INFORMATIVE……

By: sharky, shannon

sharky, shannon — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:59:48 +0000

im fuckin ashamed to be irish, but what eircom seem to forget is that if you google 'eircom:torrent' you get a wep key generated from the broadcast ssid, allowin axx to an eircom customers router/line/network.
i personally have been goin nuts dl'in everything from everyones lines not givin a fuck.
AND NOW……HAHAHAHAHAHA JUST YOU WAIT EIRCOM.
I KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY WILL DISCONNECT ABOUT 9 CUSTOMERS OF THEIRS, MINIMUM.
ON PURPOSE.
my friends laptops are all equipped, anyone in Eire with the knowledge of this has the jar file on their phone for a java app.
i will tell all my mates and anyone who'll listen to do it.
im not worried about security dont make me laugh.
the gardai wont have a fuckin clue.
+ i may forge mac addrress, obtain them store them USE THEM.
this is fuckin ridiculous, what an embarassment for us all.
as stated thats 36% of my entire fuckin country can be insta-hacked by any shmuck like myself, with a pre made programme, thats all over the fuckin web.
THEYLL RUE THE DAY.HAHAHAHA.
NOW I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS, IT MAKES ME SMILE.
OF ALL THE UNDER-TABLE CORPORATE AGENDAS AND QUANGOS, THIS ONE, ALTHOUGH EQUALLY OUTRAGEOUS, IS NOT HOPELESS.

By: Ben Jones

Ben Jones — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:57:54 +0000

Yes, we’re all waiting. I’ve not seen 6am in a long time, yet here I am.

By: mister_playboy

mister_playboy — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:31:40 +0000

Maybe people shouldn't switch ISPs right away. Maybe they should let themselves get disconnected. If that happens to enough people, then Eircom will be forced to change its tune due to loss of revenue.

Business seem to understand only the language of profit, as they cannot AFFORD to be ethical.

By: EZEE

EZEE — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:26:12 +0000

Roze, while I do agree with you that people have to take a stance and something must be done… quite honestly i dont have a **real* clue as to what.
But what I *am* doing is waiting for the pirate party to come in power (lucky I am in Sweden, even with super slut Beatrice Ask).
We are seriously outgunned here, we have the manpower to drown these scum, but not the firepower in terms of clout,money and the ears of powerful people who make laws, but dont have a clue about what they are legislating. So the best we can hope is they older fat cats slowly die away and the younger generation guys with a clue get into office/power where they can make a change.

http://www.eZee.se

By: EZEE

EZEE — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:20:06 +0000

"I agree on all other parts, maybe leave his suit out of it :) "

No problem mate, it would give me equal pleasure to know someone beat the crap out of these bozos and left then naked in the alley, like their brethren.. the rats in the alley.

"..but Irish people dont bother their arse looking for it"
When circumstances change… people generally change as well, I know its frustrating.. but wait for it ;)

"The extinction of the EMI &c. just can't come soon enough. "
True, pity its actually taken this long :(((

Cheers!
http://www.eZee.se

By: elgeebar

elgeebar — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:13:03 +0000

Unfortunately, these are global scum… so it will take a global boycott to take them down… But I'm up for it… hell been doing it for years… not bought a non-independent CD since 2000… and normally only buy independent CD's at gig's so the money is straight in the artists pocket. As for downloaded music? Never paid a cent.

By: asd

asd — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:12:29 +0000

Not quite, if it can be used to take away freedom, it's suddenly very mandatory.

By: elgeebar

elgeebar — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:58:08 +0000

Which is why you'll find us sensible Irish in every country in the world… except Ireland… where you'll only find pope lovers and the others of our brethren stupid enough to stay!

By: Roze

Roze — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:47:57 +0000

There is a problem with that: this would work only if everybody or at least a vast number of people are boycotting. There seems to be very few people who are boycotting the big four as of now.

By: kill4

kill4 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:34:52 +0000

Simple answer is for the Irish people (and all people) to speak with their wallets, refuse to buy any music produced by big four. Hitting their bottom line will put these leeches out of existence.

By: everybody

everybody — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:08:41 +0000

Maybe The Pirate Bay could be called in to help?

By: Roze

Roze — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:57:32 +0000

You mean a popular political movement against the MAFIAA can't come soon enough. All that's needed is some support and some initial idea, but unfortunately, I can't really come up with good ideas on how to oppose the MAFIAA and IFPI. Perhaps it would be good to ask everybody about how to oppose the MAFIAA. Petitions? Contacting representatives? Perhaps at least something to symbolically declare intentions to oppose the MAFIAA, like an oath or declaration or something.

By: Shantih

Shantih — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:45:04 +0000

Whatever the IFPI does, it's best not to forgive them for it. They'll just start up more shit.