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By: DrmChsr0

DrmChsr0 — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:51:42 +0000

Interesting footnote to add:

Odex is starting up it’s scam machine again.

Apparently they’re targing an unknown business ISP.

By: mmmk

mmmk — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:50:00 +0000

if media was not ridiculously overpriced you would see an increase in sales and revenue. people often use the internet to find what particular type of movie or music they most enjoy. it results in people buying media they know they enjoy instead of not spending money on something they’re not sure about. i buy CDs/vinyl containing songs/albums that i already have.

who wants to spend $20US to buy a movie/cd? i don’t. i’d rather pay $10US and support the work instead of download the media illegally. however, a reasonable cost is too low for greedy corporations such as the RIAA/MPAA and similar groups. people will search for cost effective and simple method of getting what they want at a reasonable price. unfortunately, the current price is free, because of the industry’s inflexibility with prices and technology.

p.s.
anime is jejune, unless you’re a child. grow up.

By: polyprophylen

polyprophylen — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:13:40 +0000

[quote comment="275911"]I can\’t wait until this happens world wide and they catch all you thieves, You all think that it\’s ok to steal peoples work, because You think they make to much money, You don\’t see us coming to your work and saying \” I think these people are making too much money everything they make now should be free\” do you?

I am an online affiliate trying to earn money to feed my family, and you guys think it\’s ok to steal what I am trying to make a living with?

Well it\’s not ok with me and I hope every last one of you get robbed one day or some bastard starts fucking with your business and I really hope it affects your family as all your theft has affected mine, fuck all you thieves,

VIVA LA GFY.COM[/quote]

Fuck us? Well, we’re a flexible bunch of folk, change your condom every time and everyone should do fine… Once you’re into it, though, you might want to get a sponsorship from some powerdrink company…

As for you earning no money… Not everyone can get the best chance of survival these days… Usually, the folk who spend too much time ranting rather than DOING SOMETHING are, sooner or later, removed from the gene pool. At least that’s how it was going for the past few millions of years, and the outcomes are promising…

You either assimilate to changing environment, or you run out of pancakes. It’s really that simple.

By: oneplusone

oneplusone — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:28:46 +0000

How long can/will the media corps effectively do business by suing for profits? Wow, what our world has become….

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:55:17 +0000

These days no one wants a real job. Easier to make money sitting at home online where all the vast internets of knowledge are there for the taking. Then you get jerks thinking so high of themselves and whatnot. To me piracy has gotten abit out of hand. Was better off small and resolute but who am I to judge. Hence all the tards floating around :/

By: joe@mama

joe@mama — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:35:14 +0000

are you kidding me?? think about it for a second, any person from the US that can find a file called hagane no renkinjitsu without looking it up is probably not going to be caught for copywright… we are the guys you have fix your networks buddy… as far as the guy who posted about how that is the way he puts food on the table for his kids… i hope you have daughters you can put on the street to bring home the bacon, or else your sons are going to come home not wanting to sit down because you are backing a losing cause buddy. they could not stop the mix tape, they can’t stop this… get a real job!!

By: PaulRay

PaulRay — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:58:36 +0000

Some things you may not know that I bothered to find out…

1) Odex did not wage a flat $3500 fee. There were a few cases that came up to that amount, but not many.

2)Odex did not collect the money and never made a cent directly, nor will they.

3)fees included filing, lawyers etc. The proceeds are to go to the Copyright holders.

4)At this point, everything is in arbitration. No money has changed hands except court costs borne by Odex

5)Thanks to excessive downloading Geneon is closing its doors. All other distributors are cutting releases by 50% or more. Many, many hard-working anime fans are losing their dream jobs.

6)Without Distribution, Anime companies will begin to fold since they make their livings by selling their product.

To sum that las bit up. Bye-bye anime.

The company, Odex is Singapore’s biggest licensor, but only has a staff of about 50 people.

Anime is a small industry when compared to other entertainment companies. They don’t have a huge resources that big music and film companies have to withstand the onslaught of illegal downloading. They are suffering from the very fans that claim to support them. Many people claim to buy what they like and are just downloading to help them make good decisions. The numbers don’t back this claim up.

Geneon is the best example. They catered to the fans. Then tried to bring the best titles the fans wanted at a good price to market. They are all but gone now.

Singapore has a very high per-capita download rate. Odex is trying to fight that and also help their country to be a ligit player in the media market. Lucas, Universal and other producers are looking very closely at Asia which is notorious for all types of piracy.

I personally think the movie and music as well as anime industries need to change their business model. But, at this point, it looks doubtful that Anime will survive the transition without massive losses.

This is just my opinion, but it’s an informed one.

By: ferre_kun

ferre_kun — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:30:42 +0000

edit: in my town only, there are around more than ten rental software/anime spread accross the town, untouched by legal rights lol.

you can say it’s heaven of piracy it is.i’m not saying that i’m proud of that fact, but what can i do? the legal stuff never reached here, while buying it online costs too much (thanks to dollars exchange rate to rupiahs lol)

anyway, no need to buy monopolised anime distribution if the product is suks like hell. if they improved their products instead of pursuing the sharer, then it maybe worth consideration. until then, spread the word not to buy any product from it at all. you can find what you need right next door. country boundaries is not an issue for anime

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anime bless those who help spread it out

By: ferre_kun

ferre_kun — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:11:57 +0000

come to indonesia once in a while. or find a friend on indonesia. we here are nice to our neighbours who share the same interest. to some, who share the same necessity on anime.

we here have no rule (yet) on torrent or downloading anime. the only crime as i can recall ever pursued by local authority was to make money from copyrighted stuff. sharing is not a crime, as long as it is not used to make provit.

even so, in my town, we have a rental software shop that renting all kind of softwares with cracks included, and anime of (most) all kind.

singapore is a hell for anime for now? come to our place. we will (i will) definitely help my brothers&sisters who love anime.

email me if you can’t live without anime or disscuss it on a site that i know have disscussed some things about odex’s tyranny

ferre_kun@yahoo.com
http://www.anime2leech.com

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anime bless those who help spread it out