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Has Your ISP Joined the US “Six Strikes” Anti-Piracy Scheme?

In the coming months U.S. Internet providers will begin to warn and punish alleged copyright infringers. The “six strikes” plan is the result of a deal between the MPAA, RIAA and several large ISPs. However, only a small minority of U.S. ISPs are participating and many were never even asked to join. Talking to TorrentFreak, the CEO of Sonic.net argues that it’s not the task of ISPs to police the Internet, and that the entertainment industry should work on improving their business models.

Later this year, the Center for Copyright Information (CCI) will start to track down ‘pirates’ as part of an agreement all major U.S. Internet providers struck with the MPAA and RIAA.

The parties agreed on a system through which copyright infringers are warned that they are breaking the law. After six warnings ISPs may then take a variety of repressive measures, which include slowing down offenders’ connections and temporary disconnections.

While we’ve written a fair number of articles on the topic, many people assume that all ISPs are part of the agreement. However, this is certainly not the case. In fact, only five Internet providers have agreed to send out warnings to their customers.

In alphabetical order these are AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon.

In total the ISPs above cover roughly 75% of all U.S. broadband internet customers. This is significant, but it nonetheless begs the question – why are the rest of the providers not involved?

Quite a few prominent names are not listed. Centurylink, Charter and Cox all have millions of subscribers, but are not taking part in the “six strikes” scheme. Not to forget the 100+ smaller providers across the United States who are also missing in action.

TorrentFreak contacted several of the larger Internet providers above to find out why, but they were reluctant to comment on their motivations. A Cox spokesperson was most vocal and said that they “have decided not to participate for internal reasons.”

Luckily Dane Jasper, CEO of the much smaller Sonic.net, was willing to comment on the efforts to make ISPs responsible for online piracy. He told TorrentFreak that ISPs are not setup to police the Internet and that the entertainment industries should look for a solution closer to home.

“ISPs provide an essential utility: connection. We are not equipped to police the actions of individuals,” Jasper says.

“I think history has shown that you cannot solve piracy by force, but that industries need to adapt around it with business models that allow consumers to access the content they want easily and at a not-unreasonable cost.”

However, the above is not the reason why Sonic.net isn’t taking part in the “six strikes” scheme. As it turns out, the RIAA and MPAA never bothered to ask Sonic and many other smaller Internet providers to join in.

“It isn’t because we refused, but because we were not asked. I know at least 100 small to medium ISPs through my trade association memberships, and have heard of no independent ISPs being approached at all,” Jasper says.

It’s not clear why they were left out, but it’s likely that it would have been too much trouble to reach consensus with so many parties involved.

When it comes to finding a solution to online piracy Sonic.net’s CEO is clear. The entertainment industries should ensure their legal offering is superior in terms of convenience and availability compared to that offered by pirates.

Jasper believes that taking away people’s incentive to pirate is key, and he mentions Pandora and Spotify as good examples of services that are able to deflate piracy.

“The point is that the music business has had to evolve to survive, moving away from albums and record stores to more innovative methods of distribution that consumers have responded to rather than turning to piracy out of an unwillingness to participate in the old model,” he says.

“I suspect that Apple TV, Roku and Netflix have similar beneficial effects on video, but a lack of uniform availability plus rather high prices and restrictive viewing terms hold back this solution,” Jasper concludes.

The MPAA and RIAA would not directly disagree that innovation is an important factor to curb piracy. But nonetheless, they hope that warning emails will also help. That people can bypass the scheme by using a VPN, cyberlockers, or even switching ISPs doesn’t change a thing.

At this point it is still unknown when the first warning letters will be sent. It is expected that the first ISPs will start later this year, and each will roll out their participation at their own pace.

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  • BJonesTF

    And again, because people misunderstand things as well, these five are NOT monitoring your connection

    • Fredrika

      Edit: Full private comment is in your mail, or do i need to repost it?

      • BJonesTF

        I’ve not gotten anything in my mail, so I guess a repost would be needed

        • Fredrika

          I re-edited it. You don’t have mail notifications for replies turned on?

      • BJonesTF

        I’ll start working through the comments shortly, thee’s a little bit of a backlog at present, for which I appologise, and will work on correcting in a few. Now if you’ll excuse me a moment, I’ll go flog the wretch who was supposed to do it for being lazy

        • Thag

           LOL
          that comment was funny

          =============

          my isp is cox and they aren’t taking place for internal reasons that makes me like them all the better

      • xmichaelx

         If they wanted to deal with comments, they wouldn’t use Disqus.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      One’s ISP doesn’t have the same power as the NSA; don’t worry about it ;)

      I didn;t know these things concerned people…I have a folder in my email full of these complaints; I consider them trophies.

    • NSANEkid

       Just watched the movie posted in that link, with torrents on “private” trackers, wouldn’t the ISPs need to be on the tracker to see what IP addresses are downloading such files?

      • Anyone

        not the ISP, but the company tracking it, yes

        and they will most likely be on the more popular “private” trackers

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Sorry, BlonesTF, but company that Comcast hires or Comcast doing the monitoring themselves, it still comes to the bottom line that Comcast is allowing someone to monitor your connection when they shouldn’t be.

      The police don’t get to monitor people 24/7 just because they MIGHT kill/rape/maim someone, why should the internet companies be allowed to do that or hire someone to do that?

      They are supposed to be DUMB PIPES, that just pass along the data put through them.

      • Anyone

        once more, they don’t monitor your connection, they monitor bittorrent swarms

        • Guest

          That means they are monitoring thousands of people in the swarm. They shouldn’t do that either.

        • BJonesTF

          just so we’re clear, which ‘they’ are we talking about? Comcast? a company comcast hires? A copyright owner, or a company hired by a copyright owner?

      • BJonesTF

        I think you’ve misunderstood things.

        The ISPs are not monitoring. The ISPs are not hiring anyone to monitor. That’s entirely up to rights-holder companies. All Comcast (and the others) have agreed to is some sort of system for dealing with notices.

        They are not now, nor have they in the past, undertaken any sort of investigative effort, either themselves or through a contractor.
        The exception to that would, of course, be their NBC subsidiary.

        This agreement doesn’t change how things are done as far as investigations go. It just changes how the results of investigations are handled.

        • EricPost

          And as we have seen with Google, the copyright holders won’t MONITOR anything. They will simply produce bots to send out mass notices to everyone, regardless of if it’s true or not

    • Fastcar

      Am I the only one that has already been getting warnings? I received 4 warnings 2 months ago,all for porn torrents off of extratorrent emailed to me from comcast/

  • thedude321

    The companies mentioned are going to fail miserably in the next few years…why? Because they are not following the most sacred of business laws: the consumer is king. Right now, it seems as though the consumer is their bitch.

    Hadopi failed, and so will this.

    • Simon

       They are not going to fail because they have a mono- or duo- poloy in most markets. I have the choice of ~1mbit DSL through AT&T or ~15mbit cable through Comcast.

      • GuySmiley

         Your 15mbit cable through comcast is slightly better than the 1mbit atat. Playing xbox with people who use comcast sucks balls. They lag to high heaven 99% of the time. To the point you can easily tell whos using comshit without even looking up their ip info… just looking at the way the games lag tells you 99% of the time they are using comcast. At&T still sucks dont get me wrong but they at least give you what they advertise. They advertise shit speeds and thats exactly what you get. :)

        • Bw2Colour

          Your argument is not valid, could you show us some statics?

          I use Comcast for online gaming, I rarely experience ”lag”?

        • Nicklebackinblack

          im on comcast and i never lag…i get an 80 ms ping from everett wa ( north of seattle ) to miami florida and im not even on docsis 3 yet which ive heard gives you better ping

        • Mastermikeywwt

          Ever thought maybe that’s your shitty internet connection? Lol

        • http://twitter.com/Jatthewmoly Matt

          invaled i use 3g to play online works most of the time but comcast works 100% of the time at my friends house with a ping of 70 ms

    • warcaster

      But this is a partnership between MPAA and ISP’s. How do you stop it? It does feel like it’s illegal to do what they’re doing, but I don’t know. Someone needs to sue them for this.

  • Al

    I’m curious as too how they traffic “rouge” IPs downloading illicit material. Is it the bit torrent traffic they see and they send notices, or just they see torrents and just collect all of the IPs in it and send out notices, is it just reported IPs from “Trusted” groups, or something completely different?

    • John Spartan

      The ISP’s WILL NOT BE MONITORING YOUR CONNECTION. A third, un-named, party will be monitoring bit-torrent swarms, and alerting the ISP based on that.

      • Freedonia

        Correct – but one exception is Comcast, because NBC Universal Comcast is hiring the third party to look for Comcast subscribers sharing torrents of NBC Universal material. Comcast isn’t spying on your traffic but the Comcast parent corporation hired the third party to spy on the swarms.

        Also, I believe the strikes roll back to zero after 12 months with no additional notices.

        And finally, if the third party is only seeing IPs AND issuing the strikes, it will think you’re a new person if you have a new IP. So reset each time and you’ll always be on strike one.

        • Turlock

          Whatever IP is assigned to your router it is logged by the ISP. That means your router or modem MAC address identifies you, the subscriber. Only your modem or router’s IP is seen externally, not the one your computer is assgned by the router/modem.

        • Guest

          As Turlock said, the ISP can check the timestamp on who had the IP at the time.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          IP address still doesn’t mean jack, Turlock. As I keep on saying: easily hacked wireless networks, easily tapped internet connections, etc.

          An IP address doesn’t mean jack shit in the real world.

    • Camanon7

      This is an interesting question that hasn’t been addressed. If anyone has an answer I’d like to know as well.

      • BJonesTF

        If you’d checked the first comment, you’ll see I DID address it

  • rsman

     I am a Cox subscriber, am happy to see they see this as bullshit too.

    • Anyone

      so you enjoy Cox?

      • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

         do you have a problem with Cox?

        • Anyone

          not at all, whatever floats your boat

          I just can’t resist puns ;)

        • Thag

           lol one time a buddy of mine tried to write on his check

          Cocks Communications
          lol

      • Souptooth

         I like Fish Sticks

        • Guest

           I prefer taco to Cox.

          I think I did that joke wrong, let me try again…

  • http://twitter.com/tricksfordays biabia

    comcast already slows down your connections! without warning I might add – so i’m sure other do as well. 

    annnd how about the entertainment industry evolve and innovate.  (annnd charging the same price to download an album as you did to buy a CD is not helping their cases)

    • nicklebackinblack@gmail.com

      comcast hasnt been able to slow down your connection since 2008…i frequently get 16 mbits per second on torrents and 14.5 on http downloads on my 12 mbps connection

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZMZBHO6XDQEWLGUCC73KMFK3XE briand

       I had this problem about 1.5 to 2 yrs ago 3 times I downloaded over 250gb in a month and speed was dropped to less than 56k the last 3 or 4 day of the month.  Now when I download about 400gb a month nothing happens

  • John Spartan

    The only ISPs that are likely to join are the ISPs that hold a stake in the MAFIAA entertainment companies.

  • John Spartan

    If ISPs have to police the net, does that mean that a road worker can now issue me a speeding ticket when driving?

  • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

    I find this funny no politicians involved or they are staying quiet. They will all fail miserably. Mark my word!! The customers come first not the other way round.

  • http://twitter.com/binarymutant Christopher Lunsford

    Google Fiber isn’t on this list :D

    • Urmom

       Google monitors everything for their own benefit.

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  • Riii

    Is Mediacom related to any of the five?

  • hi

    Could care less if they have or not.. I don’t steal so I have nothing to worry about. Only age of entitlement kids here will be upset. 

    • Gear Mentation

       But you do violate copyright law on a regular basis.  And that’s stealing isn’t it?  Haven’t you ever forwarded a friend’s email?  That’s stealing under the law.  Now that you’re down off your high horse, try to be a decent citizen and share culture.

      • BJonesTF

        @google-bc441917e4cf81b5c8418902f8214669:disqus wrote ”
        But you do violate copyright law on a regular basis.  And that’s stealing isn’t it? ”
        @BJonesTF:disqus replies NO IT IS NOT. Nor has it ever been. http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-infringement-and-theft-%e2%80%93-the-difference-110827/
        Even the MPAA admits it’s been telling lies about that for years, finally accepting what the US Supreme Court told them back in 1986 in Dowling http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-piracy-is-not-theft-after-all-120520/

        • Guest

           That’s what GM was getting at. He was being sarcastic

        • Gear Mentation

          It’s stealing according to the rhetoric of the MAFIAA.  Let them create a culture where being a thief is the norm.  Let people say, with pride, “Yes, I AM a culture thief.”  And no defence necessary because that is considered just being a good citizen.  Let them create not just a culture of thievery, but culture as thievery. Let them create a culture where the law is considered beneath contempt, and then try to enforce that law.

    • Goosmoo

      Erm good for you, “hi”?  I fully and freely admit to downloading copyrighted material of all types (cept pron, that’s available for free! lol) and I’m not worried about this 6-strikes thing.  Not worried at all.  My downloading habits haven’t changed in the past 5 years or so, nor will they change.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       to be fair, none of us steal anything. Nobody is ever deprived of their original copies.

    • Techanon

      The phrase “I haven’t done wrong so I have nothing to fear”. Is naive.

      You don’t need to have done wrong to fear them, someone else can do “wrong” using your conection and you will fall into the sheme. 
      Also an accusation is enough to get a strike. In this sheme the burden of proof falls on the accused.

    • Jon7272

      my neighbour 65 im 40 children we are not arguament invalid haha

  • Vincent Giannell

    This Anti-Piracy scheme is going to cause a lot of complaints from users and the guys who planned this will be forced to shut it down in the process.

  • Noepenoepneopee

    Well with the accuracy of IP addresses I expect many University printers to be on their 4th or 5th warning by the time next year, but wait what am I suggesting nobody is going to get accidentally tangled up in false reports its not like we have ever accidentally sentenced people to life in prison or anything in this country, this is going to be completely infallible!

    • Anyone

      those printers have the privilege to pay $20 to prove their innocence!

      JUSTICE!

      • ispthinktheyownus

         Why should anyone have to waste money to prove their innocence?   No justice in that?   In my opinion its just another way for the isp to make more money.  False accusations will be the new revenue maker with these companies!

  • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

    “In total the ISPs above cover roughly 75% of all U.S. broadband internet customers.”

    Pretty good coverage!

    • Fredrika

      > “Pretty good coverage!”

      Definitely, it is without a doubt the biggest advertising campaign for VPN services in history, and the VPN’s don’t even have to pay for it!! =)

    • Anyone

      pretty good argument for some anti-trust investigations

      when ISPs for 75% of the country decide such customer unfriendly measures there really should be an investigation to avoid further abuse of that oligopoly

  • Gear Mentation

    LOL.  And here was me thinking I’d need a VPN so I wouldn’t get “6 strikes and we’ll stop sending you letters” letter.  My ISP isn’t even on the list

  • Gear Mentation

    I hit the reply button above, but it made a new post… why?

  • Gear Mentation

    …. and again, the first post I made here was not a reply, something in the login process made it a “reply.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ender-Wiggin/100000885624281 Ender Wiggin

    i used to work tech support for cox, they already cut you off after three, and send nastygrams when asked.

    • GuySmiley

      You musnt have worked anywhere near me…
      I received at least 30 in the last 3 or 4 years and havent even moved or anything.
      Roughly 5 of them were within the same week.

  • Goosmoo

    The ISP I use is there, but I’m not at all concerned about it.  The policy is a waste of time and resources.  If media companies / creators produced content people thought was worth buying, AND said content was at a reasonable price, that would be a better solution, and a more effective solution, than this silly 6-strikes thing.

    But hey, if it helps the RIAA and MPAA feel better, that’s all that counts!  The world does revolve around them, after all.

    • Meatball

       They know who you are, Goosmoo, AND THEY ARE COMING TO GET YOU!!!!!!

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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  • That_Anonymous_Coward

    Or they they want to show a court, see almost all of the providers in the country – 75% so you should accept this lawsuit and let us force the small guys to sign onto the program.
    Sorta like how BREIN gets 1 court order and tries to force other ISPs to follow it.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

       Could be a first step.

      The other factor is quite likely all of the smaller ISPs get their service from one of these larger providers in a typical CLEC/ILEC arrangement. competition laws wouldn’t allow the CLEC to operate at an advantage over the ILEC when they are obligated to lease their services out to the competitors. all it takes is a minor complaint to the FCC and now everybody are under the same restraints.

  • Sexystatic

     http://www.dragon-torrents.biz

    Home of ADTRG and the demonoid king Safcuk009

  • http://twitter.com/ReViewMeMedia ReViewMeMedia

     Nope, my ISP is not on that list, I don’t really download a lot anyway, just mainly comics.  I don’t download stuff that the bigshot copyright holders are looking for.

  • Andy

    If you download from cyberlockers, you should be fine. Correct?

    • Anyone

      in theory

      but the way they collect IPs you may get strikes even if you don’t have a computer (but just the internet access because it is bundled to your TV for example)

      this “evidence” is so unreliable it’s a shame courts still go along with it

  • JordanKratz

    If Slime Warner sends me nasty letter then:
    I will move to a VPN
    and/or
    Drop them and go elsewhere
    and/or
    Use some knowledge to send my traffic to another IP
    and/or
    Buy cheap Laptop and find Free Wifi

    Fuck You MAFIAA I do not intend on ever letting you near my Wallet.This is my response to the things you have done, still do, and will do in the future.I CENSOR You from my Money.I will spend my money on local art and Indie Stuff.

    • Anon

      I think you have freedom to makes choices that suit you, right? Is that fair enough?

      And I think government and industry has every right to follow the law, drive new legislation, surveille your activities, apprehend and charge you, prosecute you painfully to the fullest extent the current law allows and change your life in a permanent and very public way the first moment they have the lawful chance.The rest of us will enjoy amazing great free stuff, pay for the priced stuff, we’ll have nothing to worry about and we’ll laugh our effing ASSAS off as you follow the loser of the decade Joel Tenenbaum into financial obscurity. The internet is incredible but it was never a reason to break law and pirates are the stupidest of the planet. Stay tuned. Darwin was right.

      • Anyone

        I’m waiting until you get accused because of their “evidence”

        the current monopoly should be broken up, it is only holding humanity back at this point
        it might have served a purpose a few decades ago, but it certainly doesn’t serve any purpose anymore, except getting a few rich CEO richer

      • Happyartist

         Yes Darwin was right. The old business model is being replaced with the new one. A model that is adapting to function within the world we have instead of trying to fight the inevitable change.

        Dinosaurs died because the environment changed and they were not equipped to survive in the new reality. It wouldn’t have helped them to stomp on as many little animals as they could. Reality has a way of catching up.

        Look up corporate dinosaurs, the end of the fight is on it’s way.

        • None

           You have typed this before…

      • JordanKratz

         Darwin was right ! People who say the things you do will be extinct one day.And when that happens it will be a Day of Celebration.
        As I stated in my post I have no problem spending my money on Local Artists, ETC. nor do I have any problem spending my money on INDIE Art.I can find lots of Cool Bands, Films, and Books that are put out from INDIE Non MAFIAA Sources.
        I do not care nor am I interested in MAFIAA Content.And yes I will CENSOR the MAFIAA from my small earnings.
        Just wait till you start getting threatening letters from your ISP for stuff you did not do.Then you and people like you can go and drink the Cool-Aid.

        • ScrewEwe2

          Jordan, I checked out a few of your Meat Hammer Vids. Thanks for sharing man. I’ll be going back to check out some more. When I was watching the opening ceremonies of the Olympics I appreciated that they at least played some Bowie and Pink Floyd in their set list but while watching, I was hoping they could work “God Save the Queen” or “Anarchy in the U.K.” into the mix. With the Queen sitting there I suppose playing any Sex Pistols would have been way too much to expect.

      • Guest

        Awww, you mad that HADOPI was nothing but a big fat failure? Need daddy Pelouzey to give you ointment for that butthurt of yours?

        It’ll just take one strike of public backlash and failure to deliver for this funded “initiative” to be flushed down the toilet.

      • ScrewEwe2

        What a fucking Douche UR.

  • Afronauts

    I am surprised Century Link isn’t on this list, not the best ISP next to these listed anyways.

    • Katniss

      Just got the notice from Century Link today.

  • SuperGorilla

    Hi everyone.

    Regarding this situation, I need to ask someone’s advice.

    A little background…

    My ISP is AT&T. When I first started filesharing in 2009, I just used Peerguardian/Peerblock without a VPN. There were times when I thought AT&T was throttling me because my speeds would act uncharacteristically erratic, especially my upload speed. Once the speed would go up to my limit setting, it would get immediately shot down to zero. This would go on and on as long as I was filesharing. This happened even when I used forced encryption and port forwarded correctly.

    AT&T claims they don’t monitor or use things like Sandvine, however, based upon my experience, I think they are monitoring, at least occasionally with the most heinous offenders like myself.  :-)

    Shortly thereafter, I started using a VPN and everything has been smooth ever since. I’ve not had one problem whatsoever for years.

    Now we come to the crux of the matter.

    I’ve just joined a private site (thebox.bz) and they don’t allow members to use VPNs or any anonymizing service or they will disconnect you. Evidently, they are monitoring the ranges of all the major VPNs because I had a friend who was immediately kicked off the site for using a VPN. They didn’t even give him a second chance, they just immediately canceled his account. He had even donated money to them and been one of their best seeders.

    I use Peerblock with excessive filters and forced encryption with my client. However, I just don’t feel comfortable being this out in the open and exposed with my ISP considering my previous history with AT&T. I’m thinking of canceling my box membership and just using TPB, KAT, and others to get what I need via my VPN.

    What do you guys think? Would you consider it safe to fileshare with this private site without a VPN considering ISPs are becoming more militant about monitoring? I can’t use a seedbox because I can’t afford that right now.

    I have tried to discuss this with the administrators at the box, but they are absolutely the rudest, most condescending jerks I have ever come in contact with. There is no polite exchange with these people. Communication with them reminds you of the insulting replies from ninjavideo. You can’t ask them the slightest question or they will get irate. Trust me, they are jerks of the lowest order. So you ask, “Why are you a member?”. Well, because they have exclusive British TV content that others don’t have. The only way I would use the service is to lay low, do my thing, and not come in contact with those idiots.

    Thanks for your replies.

    • Anyone

      Peerguardian/Peerblock is worthless, it doesn’t do anything meaningful to protect you

      thebox does allow VPNs, you just can’t create new accounts while behind a VPN
      make a new account, then use the VPN later on
      or use a seedbox

      but yes, “communication” with private site admins is rarely productive, they usually have the biggest egos mankind has ever seen
      but if you just keep in the background and seed enough they won’t bother you

      thebox is really great for UK tv, it’s the only private tracker I use, because there is no substitute for it

      • TheBoxLooksShite

        “The use of ANY kind of anonymizing/Proxy/Tor service will result in an immediate disabling of your account.”Nice little IP gathering service going there

      • BJonesTF

        indeed blocklists dont work.

        thebox is useless. there are other UK-specific trackers out there, ones that actually know what they’re doing.

    • John Spartan

      “the speed would go up to my limit setting, it would get immediately shot down to zero”
      Have you tried lowering the limit?
      Sounds like your line is becoming over saturated

    • Potato

      Hello if you’re apart of private trackers, no need to use VPN as it’s unnecessary. 

      • Anyone

        you keep believing that

      • Rekrul

         If you read the original message fully, he doesn’t want to use a VPN to hide his IP address, he wants to completely hide the fact that he’s using BitTorrent, so that his ISP won’t throttle his upload speed (if that’s what’s happening).

        • BJonesTF

          it’s not. AT&T doesn’t throttle (our lead researcher uses AT&T – we’d know if they were throttling).

          I’d lay odds it’s either bad settings, or malware (such as peerblock) causing the issues.

        • JenniP13

          Unfortunately, they don’t monitor what you are doing, they monitor your bandwidth.  They throttle when they see huge chunks going in or out through your connection, so they throttle it.  VPN’s won’t help that because regardless of how you appear to the world, you still have to go through your ISP, and they can see how much bandwidth you are using (not what you are doing).  

      • JenniP13

        Hello you are SOOOOO wrong.  All a private tracker does is connect you to other people using the same tracker, their registered users (connecting people sharing the same file- swarm) MPAA get you NOT from where you download the torrent file from, you are not downloading the file from that site.  They get you through your bit torrent client and the swarm you use to download the file. But most files have more than one tracker, some have dozens in addition to the private tracker you found the file through, besides any that you add yourself!  uTorrent for example, lets you add as many trackers as you want in addition to your “private” tracker.  Chances are, there is an MPAA bastard using the same tracker, in the same swarm.  Without a VPN, you just gave them your IP, ISP, country, and open port.  Next comes a letter to your ISP, who in turn puts you in front of a firing squad.  You don’t need the VPN to find the torrent file, you need it for when you actually connect to peers to download the file.  

        Plus, “private” trackers are not that private.  Registration opens periodically, and invites are a dime a dozen.  How hard do you really think it is for some millionaire exec with an army of computer geeks to find either an invite or an open registration?  You got in, right?   Are you special?  No.  Making a tracker private only serves to make you FEEL special, somewhat monitor the quality of the site, and to make the site itself seem better than it is, just another tracker.  Find me 5 files from a private tracker with ONLY the private tracker, NO DHT, Local Peer Discovery, or Peer Exchange allowed, and I’ll show you 50 that do.  Plus, now a days, all you see is openbittorrent.com added to every single “Private” tracker, making it completely and totally public!

        Not to mention that people want VPN’s for more than just to download copyrighted material.  Some places, schools, businesses, public wifi’s, etc, even different parts of the world, do not allow you to access sites or do any large file jobs, whether it’s uploading, downloading, or even online gaming.  When I was visiting the Netherlands, I was not allowed to use Netflix!  Netflix wouldn’t work, saying that their service has not reached that part of the world yet.  So, slapped on my VPN which made me look like I was currently in New York, and I had access to the service that I pay for, and have been paying for for 10 years.   A private tracker gives you the ability to use your computer how you need to use it, and have the right to use it, minimizing the restrictions based on your current connection or part of the world.

        You should really get your facts straight.

    • BJonesTF

      Thebox is actually one of the most worthless places out there. Admins are UTTERLY clueless about bittorrent, they have so many problems with the tracker (but blame it on clients) they want you to use old, exploited clients, and your real IP address…

      sounds like some people want a botnet….

      • DocGerbil100

        Hello, Mr Jones.

        I’ve been a member there (under another name) for quite a while.  The content’s been good, DL times have been good and I’ve had no difficulties, either with the site or it’s admins (although, in all fairness, I have heard a few horror-stories from seemingly-reasonable people outside – and I did note that Daveywolf’s avatar was used as the illustration for evil admins at the now-defunct Encyclopedia Dramatica).

        My perspective (as a mere user) may be limited, but the only people I ever saw having problems seemed to be people either not following the rules or arguing over and over with staff, neither of which is ever a good omen anywhere on the internet.  If people are or were getting auto-banned without cause or warning, it’s something I can’t see, by definition.  On the whole, it’s been a very positive experience for me and the staff and mods have been friendly and helpful whenever I’ve had cause to communicate with them.  YMMV, naturally.

        My understanding of the current rules is that:

        • you can use any client you want, just so long as it’s not on the explicitly-banned list – for example, any flavour of µTorrent 3 (including the current version), with the exception of 3.1, which was banned for being allegedly very badly-behaved;

        • the proxy rules are a little strange, but make some sense for a ratio-dependant site – you can use a proxy, if you have Power User status or above or are a donor or live in a ‘geo-politically sensitive’ country, such as Iran (staff approval required).

        I can appreciate that – as someone well-informed about the tech – you might reasonably expect admins from a major site to be have a stronger grip on the technical side, I can appreciate that you want to see an open bittorent network, rather than a proliferation of relatively-insular, ratio-obsessed closed sites, but insinuating that they’re using their members to build a botnet seems like an unreasonably harsh and very unfair thing to say.

        I’ve a lot of respect for you, Mr Jones, but I can’t help but wonder why you’ve made that comment in quite the way that you have: it just doesn’t seem honest.

        • BJonesTF

          *oh boy…

          @dg_100:disqus wrote “but the only people I ever saw having problems seemed to be people either not following the rules or arguing over and over with staff, neither of which is ever a good omen anywhere on the internet.”

          The problem is that (having personally dealt with them) no matter how many facts, how much evidence you give, they’re ‘always right’. Except they’re usually wrong. Hence the problems. They’re utterly clueless. You’ll see an example just below

          “• you can use any client you want, just so long as it’s not on the explicitly-banned list – for example, any flavour of µTorrent 3 (including the current version), with the exception of 3.1, which was banned for being allegedly very badly-behaved;”
          From thebox.bz’s site (
          uTorrentRecommended version: 1.8.2  {Download Link: Windows}Only approved versions: 1.6.1, 1.7.7, 1.8.2, 1.8.3 Latest version tested: 3.0.0.0 (Result: NOT Approved): 3.0.0.0 (Result: NOT Approved)version 3.1.0.0 banned due to not rejecting bad crc data

          I had a quick check. There’s no CRC data problem. There *was*  a SHA1 problem, with a specific beta build of 3.1, but not CRC. Bittorrent doesn’t use CRC, as I’m sure you know. Their claim is factually wrong.
          They had that error pointed out in Feb (http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=114126), and haven’t corrected it (because that would be admitting they were wrong). They’ve been asked over and over to provide data for the ‘problems’ so that they can be fixed, and nothing.
          You do have to wonder why their ‘only approved versions’ are ones that have exploits though….
          Or Perhaps
          BitTornado (aka Torrentflux)
          Except it’s not. They’re two separate things.

          Go further down to the ‘generally banned clients’, and you’ll see most is for ‘not identifying properly’. I know most of them actually do. It seems they don’t understand the bittorrent spec when it comes to peerID. Something client makers have been trying to say for *YEARS* http://forums.degreez.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7070

          “you might reasonably expect admins from a major site to be have a stronger grip on the technical side”
          Actually, I’d expect them to have SOME understanding of Bittorrent, they don’t. The guy that writes press releases for the MPAA has a stronger technical understanding of bittorrent than they do. They have a badly setup tracker, with a lot of poorly implemented scripts, and blame problems on clients and users. And while the botnet comment is harsh, the only other possibility is sheer incompetence and arrogance. 

          Can you think of a third option?

    • JenniP13

      I agree, peer guardian is worthless.  I have AT&T also, and have noticed the same speed throttling.  They claim it is not them, but it’s bull.  If you look at my realtime speed, it is hills and valleys, from peak to 0 in about 10-15 second spurts, constantly and identically during my filesharing.  it looks like a perfect set of waves.  

      I would say be wary of any site refusing VPN access.  The whole point, especially now, is anonymity and identity protection, and by forcing you to share your information, you never know who’s pocket they’re really in.  It could just be a way to lure people out for this stupid “war” on pirates, disguised as a private, exclusive membership.  Plus, just because you want to remain unknown does not mean you are necessarily trying to infringe on copyrights.  It could be you just don’t want trolls and hackers knowing your IP and ports used, in an attempt to minimize the risk of malicious attacks and software unknowingly downloaded onto your machine.  Or worse yet, unauthorized access to your private files!  I very much like a wall between me and the world.  I used StrongVPN for a while, but then I got about 15 MPAA complaints (through StrongVPN, they didn’t share my info) in less than 10 minutes, then again every time I turned on my computer, WITHOUT having any file sharing client open or running!  Every time my computer connected to the internet, I would (well, Strong VPN would) be bombarded with complaints!  Funny thing was, I never downloaded the file in question.  I made it to 2% then stopped, yet I kept getting notices saying I had files on my computer infringing on copyright laws, and to delete all traces of the file.  To test, I deleted the scraps that WERE really there, and renamed another file, similar in size, to the file in question.  Guess what?  Yet another notice.  All in all, I received over 30 notices in 2 days, while only being connected to a filesharing client for about 45 minutes.  StrongVPN could not give me any info on how this could happen, and they never really knew who or where I was, StrongVPN got the notices, which had their IP, not my real one, and I couldn’t get any answers from the net.  Obviously, someone, some MPAA bastard was camped out constantly scanning my files looking for something sounding similar to one of their precious copyrighted crap.  If they can do that, they can see the rest of my files, which DO contain my personal information, and that was NOT OK with me!!  Needless to say, I switched to BTGuard, and think it’s pretty good.  Speeds are a lot slower but I am and remain completely anonymous. (I let it expire a few months ago though, but am seriously considering renewing again now!)

      SInce we’re (allegedly) breaking laws already by file sharing, why not take it one step further?  I live in a multi-family unit in a not so wonderful area.  My neighbors are pigs, both units below me, and computer illiterate pigs at that.  So, when it’s time for sharing, I simply jump onto one of 2 open, unsecured connections (one from my living room in front, one from my bedroom in back), and seed to my little heart’s desire! :o)  One especially, who has a habit of having domestic disputes pour into the hallway and street, constantly waking my family up with police sirens, breaking walls, shattering glass, and terrorizing screams from both the wife and children, does not even own a computer, they just use the internet for their Xbox.  So if their ISP complains they can easily just blame it on everyone else (I check constantly, at any one time there are between 5-20 attached devices, excluding mine… lol)  Plus, they’d have to learn to read English before they can figure out what an MPAA complaint is!

      I know it’s not the greatest thing, and people will probably talk $h!t to me for it, but I’m not hurting anyone.  What I really need to do is MOVE! lol… Or they need to learn what a password is!  Plus, I have no respect for anyone who beats their wife and children mercilessly and frequently, constantly getting away with it, even when the cops show up and pretend not to see the bloody handprints on the walls, a child with black eyes, and handprints on the wife’s neck… It’s too much paperwork, if she says he didn’t do it, he didn’t do it… SO yeah.  I’d risk his hide LONG before I risk mine!!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000391251820 Kyle Daniels

        AT&T doesn’t throttle their service, their service is just crap, that is why I no longer use their DSL service.  At the time I used them, I only had my Blu-Ray player and Xbox 360 online, and their reasoning why my internet was slow was because of a virus on my computer, which at that time I didn’t have one.  During certain times I was getting so slow speeds that Speedtest.net and speakeasy’s speedtest failed to find my speed.  All this while I was paying for 6Mbps Downstream.

        • Former AT&T Uverse Tier 1

           Here is some inside news on AT&T, from someone who used to work for
          them. They do indeed block VPNs from being used with their services, and
          if they notice a spike in usage they will throttle (we constantly had
          complaint calls from people who used torrents, but were not allowed to
          tell them that was the problem because AT&T tries to block the fact
          that they are in bed with the anti-piracy people). Other reasons why you
          get slow speeds is they try to force fake U-verse internet into areas
          that are not ready to receive the service yet (they force the signal
          through the old deteriorating copper lines and call it “IP-CO”
          internet), also they have incompetent install technicians who do
          horrible jobs that they allow to keep working for them. Between all of
          that and the flat out lies their sales dept tells people, that was the
          reason I couldn’t work in their tech support call center anymore. Some
          areas the service is excellent, but other areas they try to force
          cut-rate service on people they think they can milk money out of.

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon are only five ISPs. 

    Yet, they control 75% of Internet Access for all American Citizens. 

    In short, these five Corporations have Monopoly control over Internet connection and Transmission services. 

    So, why would AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon take their 75% control over the American Internet Market and use it to impose Six Strikes in the service of legacy Digital Distributors seeking to protect monopoly previledges under existing Copyright Law? 

    Simple answer:  Because AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon are NOT merely Transmission Pipelines excusively responsible for the quality and efficiency of technical infrastructure……God Forbid!…They see their future as Cable Companies and end-point Gatekeepers as selling premium packages of Copyrighted content to an unlimited global market at extortionate prices permitted under Copyright Law.  They expect to extract real volume earnings, not primarily from monthly connection fees paid by customers (chump change), but by monetizing their “last mile” position on every distribution pathway into American homes (real moolah) in alliance with legacy Content Distributors. 

    In this sense, Six Strikes represents a failure of American Regulatory Policy to hold ISPs to their natural Regulated functions…..Innovating Technical Infrastructure and optimizing its managemet for the benefit of Customers at the lowest possible price. 

    No such luck.  Six Strikes is what happens when you allow ISPs to adopt a transcendant messianic vision of their own Importance to the point that they believe their first priority is to sodomize their customers. 

    Customers first line of defense is quick recourse to the courts. 

    Customers second line of defense is to refocus attention on Regulators and Regulatory policies:  Out with the old.  In with the new.

    • sonofsmog

      I disagree about Verizon. Verizon is the very definition of  laissez-faire in their policies towards file sharing (or most anything else.) I have been bittorrenting for years and have only ever received one report about my copying. I didn’t even say to stop it just said someone (NBC Universal) complained. They have routinely gone to the mat to protect the anonymity of their users from copyright trolls, and their aggressive stance against the big media companies is what finally led to this relatively toothless 6 strikes law.

      • Rekrul

         I received one notice for the season finale of the show Revenge. Seems that Disney complained…

    • BName Shomething

      “AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon see their future as Cable Companies and end-point Gatekeepers as selling premium packages of Copyrighted content to an unlimited global market at extortionate prices permitted under Copyright Law.”
      Agreed.

  • xpmule

    i wonder how many unsuspecting people will have their connections killed because of the neighbors using their wifi or some business like a cafe or something ?

    ISP agrees to this than they deserve to have their business fail hard !

    Demand proof people. Just because someone says something to someone (complainer) that says something to someone (isp) doesn’t mean its fact.
    Not sure a chain of chatter from person to person with no real tangible proof can be considered evidence in a court of law.

    And as far as I’m concerned they need to prove that a user COMPLETED a download !
    So if i decide to click on every single new torrent on TPB today and
    they are ALL being monitored by the RIAA Mafia & Friends and than
    i decide to cancel every one of them except 1 torrent does that mean I’m gonna get 100 emails of infringement ?
    Ya all see what I’m driving at here ?

    • Turlock

      There is a large and very busy coffeshop in my city and they get DMCA letters almost daily…. but there’s nothing they can do. They are certainly not going to harrass their customers by tracking down their ip on their router.

      • Subbrillliant

        There is one thing that they can do…put said letters up on a Wall of Shame.

        (Shame on every entity from their ISP through the MPAA//RIAA and up to the puppets in DC.)

        And then consider pointing and laughing.

  • Rebojr2003

    Thank you optimum for not joining these scumbags

    • skeeter

      optimum=cablevision

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Shull/1619972091 Bill Shull

    My provider , Penn Tele Data (decent small provider) has a 1 Strike policy. 
    About 6 years ago I downloaded a patch for a game , not crack , cheat or game itself. I actually bought the game.
    Well the game patch was hosted on TPB , no leechers only 1 seeder. It was for an EA game.
    About a month or so after , I get a letter stating EA claimed I stole the game. No appeal no get out of jail free. 30 days until shut off.
    I got my game receipt andprinted out the torrent info and had to send to EA and provider to eventually get a reprieve , but they warned anything again (Even though my dl wasnt bad) would be immediate kick off

    • Gear Mentation

       And you didn’t get a VPN?  Seriously?

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      This is the “up-against-the-wall-mothafucka” attitude that these ISPs and their allied Cable Companies wish they could apply to their Customers without pain killer or lube. 

      Six Strikes is what they had to settle for; after the American Public sniffed out the hidden threats to Constitutional Rights buried in PIPA, SOPA, CISPA, ACTA, and TPP. 

      The American Public said “NO!!” very loudly to these efforts to write away the Constitutional Rights of Individual Cirizens.  Yet, like that red-eyed Terminator who crawls out threatening gory mayhem from within the bowels of the near-nuclear explosion, these Corporations rise again with Six Strikes……

      The American Public is exhausted……

      But make no mistake…..Six Strikes, if allowed to fester into its potential over a very short term………is every bit as threatening to the Civil Rights of Individual citizens as PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA, and TPP ever were….

      If we take this threat seriously….our very first understanding should be that NO Citizen should be allowed to be in the position of receiving one of these Six Strike notices without being able to access effective and pugnacious Legal Representation all the way to the Supreme Court. 

    • erasmus654

      I’m curious as to why you would describe a company that pulled that shit on you as a decent small provider??

      Wouldn’t be more accurate to say something like “Penn Tele Data (Piece of shit, fascistic cunt of a provider) has a one strike policy.”? =)

  • Turlock

    Well, folks, just learn how to crack WEP-encrypted networks and access the internet through your neighbour’s router. He’ll get the letter, not you. You’d be surprised how many fools still use WEP, and it’s incredibly easy to crack.

  • Turlock

    Oh, and if you do that (above), be sure to change your host-name and spoof your MAC address on a daily basis.  Never log onto a cracked network using the original MAC of your network card/adapter.

  • Gear Mentation

    A question for techies: I just switched to Kubuntu.  When installing it, it gave a name to the computer saying “this is the name your computer uses when talking to other computers.”  It has my real name in it.  Am I in any danger from the MAFIAA?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JLDW6WOBWIOFPARE3US5PY45RA Croix Allard

    F**k. I have comcast… 

  • Windy

    I just dumped AT&T and signed up for Cox’s Ultimate. Cox, you are welcome to my hard-earned dollars.

    • Likelylikey

      The more Americans that do that the more they will realise it’s not in the ISP’s interest to help the MAFIAA.

  • TiggFooo

    Man that would jsut totally annoy the heck out of me man.
    Anon-Do.tk

  • http://twitter.com/16BitGenocide Adam

    Something is cooking up in the nether-worlds of our omnipresent Government, I smell the wretched stench of a wicked bureaucracy through the pixels. You can almost feel the beast breathing down your neck, licking its chops at the prospect of cinching up the choke collar just one more notch.

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      Love this!  Man. you should write conspiracy novels…..absolutely with a supernatural twist…..

  • kurgan2001

    So far .. *knock on wood* .. I haven’t gotten any type of message from any of the ISPs I’ve used.

    I’m going to *keep calm and carry on* until I get a message, then I’ll lay low I guess.  I can’t afford a VPN .. can barely afford a roof and utilities for now.

    • Chilly Willy

      Have you ever considered getting VPN service in an annual basis? A lot of sites give deep discounts, and you may be able to get it for as little as $10/month. $10/month more is not going to break the bank.

      • SillyWilly

        So the poster is struggling to keep a roof over his/her head and you are suggesting they spend $120.

        • fonseca898

           If you are struggling to make rent, you really don’t need cable and internet services.  There are plenty of free wifi hotspots.

        • kurgan2001

          in response to fonseca898

          Well considering we’re in a bundle that includes the home phone, we can’t cancel that and also considering I live in a rural area, I’m not gonna be a creeper at a McDs just to leech wifi.  I actually have standards.

          You don’t know me, you don’t know my situation so stfu.

  • BName Shomething

    So, the three strikes will start happening sometime soon and people will continue getting Joe Doe lawsuits files against them?

    • Anyone

      yes

      and while not directly in the “agreement” the MAFIAA has hinted that they might try and force to hand over details of “repeat infringers”

      • Fantastic

         Well they did attempt to get a bill through that would allow the government to snoop thought your personal info just for kicks (without pesky warrants and other legal stuff) Thankfully it was defeated and there are a few good ones like Rand Paul who really dislike legislation that seek to infringe peoples Internet Privacy. I bet that legislation was a keystone to those plan.

  • Vagina Slim

    I’ve been to US before and it’s a problematic country.

    • erasmus654

       What country ISN’T problematic?

    • Subbrillliant

      I’ve been in slim vaginas.  They can be problematic as well.

  • $$$$$

    Kudos to Dane Jasper/Sonic.net for having some sense. The self entitlement of MPAA/RIAA is sickening.

    • Chilly Willy

      Sonic is the best if you want to run a web server. Cheaper than using any kind of hosting service. 

  • Rekrul

     One consequence of this that hasn’t been mentioned;

    If more people start using VPNs, it will make it harder for cops to catch the real criminals. For example, a user signs up with a non-logging VPN so that he can still download movies and music, but once he finds out that he’s completely anonymous online, he might use it to download child porn. Or send death/bomb threats. When the cops try to trace his IP, all they find is the VPN, who can’t tell them who used the IP address.

    • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

      Non-logging VPN will then be illegal, a natural development.

      • Guest

        Then people will swap hard drives, just as people swapped mixtapes.

        Good luck stopping that, Nej. Or do you want to outlaw storage media too? Are you still butthurt that HADOPI was proven to be nothing more than an expensive mistake? The same will happen here, as long as the methodologies employed are similarly unproven, inaccurate and disastrously overstepping.

        You still haven’t responded why the artists would benefit from all this. Wasn’t HADOPI considered a failure precisely because artists didn’t benefit from it?

      • John Spartan

        I dont see how that would work, because it really easy for ANYONE to start a VPN company. Even easier than running a torrent site.

      • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

        @dc48d3cb04f996b5f01857626f71bf57:disqus 

        Sure but legal ISPs may be required to use a blacklist/whitelist and block illegal VPN services. Or reduce bandwidth to VPN services.

      • Guest

        @nejtillpirater:disqus 
        C’mon, Nej, don’t be such an evasive little bitch; answer the question!

  • erasmus654

    Fuck those ISP’s that agreed to this….but yay for me, I get my broadband from Charter.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    If you get a warning, just call up and say you’re going to cancel your internet and other services with them. I’m sure they’ll back down as they only care about money and wouldn’t want to lose a customer.

  • Sketch

    VPN or die

  • Guest

    use FTP with AES 256bit Connection with ur friends 

  • Ztristarie3

    I freaking <3 you, Centurylink. Thanks for being not dicks for the 10 years I've been with you guys!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Maliha-Jalil/100003764143255 Maliha Jalil

    I’m curious as to why you would describe a company that pulled that shit on you as a decent small provider??

    Wouldn’t be more accurate to say something like “Penn Tele Data
    (Piece of shit, fascistic cunt of a provider) has a one strike policy.”?
    =)
    http://4jobs.pk/news/2012/08/05/afghan-parliament-votes-to-dismiss-security-ministers-over-pakistan-shelling.html

  • Miami Sunset

    It’s easy to see why they don’t bother with the smaller companies. Working with just the five gives them 75% of the market. Imagine if The Pirate Bay lost 75% of it’s torrents? Or consider that for every million people downloading a song, 750,000 no longer could? (Although that wouldn’t stop them from finding other ways.) While I think it’s unreasonable that it would automatically mean a 75% increase in sales, it might have a 10% increase.

  • HitTheBulliesBack

    Fuck these fascist comis!

    If I was you I would have retaliated immediately by switching provider if possible. If not I would have at least skip one payment and stay one payment behind just to annoy them. The next level would be  to sabotage their installation cutting off thousand of customers from their services.

  • Alsabetya

    i got 6 of best & skool for bein a retard. and arrogant im in 40 s and dam  whats changed..my isp gave me 6 of them..ill be 80 before i see light

  • Alsabetya

      retard has a lot to do with it,,but theres methods  with being challenged,,tits n honey 1st n 2nd,,  then bring it on..cause i inna gonna lose my honey

  • Alsabetya

    or tits

  • qitian

    tinyurl.com/cyk9xz2

  • Obvious

    Perhaps this situation could be resolved if someone invented a *isp plugin* company. You pay a fee and it routes all your traffic through them before it hits the endpoint :) I know vpn exists, but perhaps…oh wait…that IS what vpn does! Doh.

  • BName Shomething

    F**k the internet. I needed the exercise anyways…

  • John Eppstein

    Closer to home? What nonsense!

    There is nothing “closer to home than the ISP. For them to say that is like a pawnbroker telling a burglarized musician that they have no responsibility toi check the ownership of the guitars they take in and to find someone “closer to home” to take care of it.

    When a significant part of your business is based on facilitating the transmission of stolen property it is ABSOLUTELY your responsibility to assist in doing something about it. That’s why shops dealing in used merchandise are required by law to fill out police reports and hold items for 30 days before selling. The online world needs similar legislation.

    If you business profits from theft, either potentially or in reality, it is your responsibility and obligation as a basic cost of doing business use use a portion of your profits towards combating theft. ISPs have dodged responsibility for too long.

    They need to man up and stop being crybabies about it, they certainly can afford the Actually relatively nominal)  expense with the amount of money they pull in.

    • Guest

      >When a significant part of your business is based on facilitating the transmission of stolen property

      And again, we have another deluded idiot who thinks that people only use the Internet for downloads.

      If the ISPs were buying and selling the “stolen content” themselves you might have a point. The behaviour you’re describing is closer to the cyberlockers themselves. Do you demand payment from the building landlord who failed to check up on the pawnbroker? What about the car manufacturer who made the car the thief drove in? Or the operators who run the public transport system which everyone, including thieves, uses? Surely, by your analogy, no one could possibly want to use infrastructure aside from wanting to steal, right?

      But hey – you’re a deluded idiot. You’ve long since convinced yourself that everyone else is a thief.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000391251820 Kyle Daniels

    Charter has been doing this for a while, and what most of them are doing is they are monitoring what IP addresses you connect to, and if you connect to one that is known to distribute torrents you get an E-Mail or Letter in the mail.  I have gotten an E-Mail from Charter, and come to find out it was my neighbor who was torrenting and his internet connection was on the same IP as mine because with cable everyone in the neighborhood was on the same main drop.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BOD6T46O6RYENKPKZKR5NRQS5I jvkla

    Mine hasn’t signed on, and mine won’t be signing on.  Here’s a hint: ditch the landline cable, and stick to a wifi provider.  What you sacrifice in speed is barely noticeable, but plenty of small-to-medium size wifi providers actually boast about “no limits on bandwidth” and wink at you when you join.  Many are available all over the US, and I’m sure other countries as well.

  • OooK

    Sounds like VPN Service industry is expecting a big boom. 

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    Talking to TorrentFreak, the CEO of Sonic.net argues that it’s not the
    task of ISPs to police the Internet, and that the entertainment
    industry should work on improving their business models.

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  • scott

    They want to lock up information, just like that famous sci-fi novel where all the books were burned that they didn’t allow.  This is the beginning perhaps of some totalitarian state and nobody should stand by and accept it.

  • scott

    I write better songs than many of the bands now and it’s the ideas and while I’m not a great musician I do have a mastery of my mind, which is the most important musical instrument of all.  What’s with all the lousy songs on the radio now.  These politicians and business people are talentless, and they don’t care about the creation of good songs.  They only care about money and power.

  • RayZ fox

    Spend money doing a thing that will cause you to lose customers (either when they switch isp or reach 6 strikes) to protect the copyrights of company you have no interests in for free.

  • eXtaticus

    This is because most ISPs are owned by one of the six biggest media conglomerates. It’s totally corrupt.

  • Facts

    Screw em, trace my proxies spend the money and try and catch me. NO I dont steal content or break laws, but I do hide my online presense very well so if I were to get one of these letters… My attnys would be jumping all over those who sent it and I would be getting a nice fat settlment.

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