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		<title>By: anon.</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-578573</link>
		<dc:creator>anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all BS really, we received one of those letters from davenport lyons, didn&#039;t reply, didn&#039;t respond, didn&#039;t do anything and they appear to have left us alone. Had a call from a lawyer saying he could sort it out for a &quot;fee&quot;. Told &#039;em all to get stuffed they&#039;re as bad as each other. Anyway couldnt find anything on any computers and my network is secure so how they reckon anything got d/l I dont know, didnt even know what bitlord was until I read about it here. As far as I&#039;m concerned ignore all letters sent out from anyone !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all BS really, we received one of those letters from davenport lyons, didn&#8217;t reply, didn&#8217;t respond, didn&#8217;t do anything and they appear to have left us alone. Had a call from a lawyer saying he could sort it out for a &#8220;fee&#8221;. Told &#8216;em all to get stuffed they&#8217;re as bad as each other. Anyway couldnt find anything on any computers and my network is secure so how they reckon anything got d/l I dont know, didnt even know what bitlord was until I read about it here. As far as I&#8217;m concerned ignore all letters sent out from anyone !</p>
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		<title>By: THE PIRATE BAY DIED YESTERDAY</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-575756</link>
		<dc:creator>THE PIRATE BAY DIED YESTERDAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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http://extratorrent.com

ET is the place to be :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COME TO A BETTER PLACE, WITH BETTER RELEASES, FASTER SEEDS, FASTER SPEEDS, FOR ALL YOUR BIT TORRENT PROTOCOL NEEDS:</p>
<p><a href="http://extratorrent.com" rel="nofollow">http://extratorrent.com</a></p>
<p>ET is the place to be :-)</p>
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		<title>By: shast</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-575469</link>
		<dc:creator>shast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ISPs Doubt Accuracy of Anti-Piracy Evidence story is on twitter just search</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISPs Doubt Accuracy of Anti-Piracy Evidence story is on twitter just search</p>
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		<title>By: Sharing Is Caring</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-575082</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharing Is Caring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>acs = fail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>acs = fail</p>
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		<title>By: Clashman</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574751</link>
		<dc:creator>Clashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When ACS LAW stop sending you letters cos you have dug a trench and put barbed wire out in front of it and manned the machine gun and refused to pay. What happens then? Can they keep the allegation on file and use it again at a later date or because they have taken no further action it becomes null &amp; void?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When ACS LAW stop sending you letters cos you have dug a trench and put barbed wire out in front of it and manned the machine gun and refused to pay. What happens then? Can they keep the allegation on file and use it again at a later date or because they have taken no further action it becomes null &amp; void?</p>
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		<title>By: Misa</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574471</link>
		<dc:creator>Misa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@30 

You&#039;re getting &quot;Logistep&quot; mixed up with &quot;Logitech,&quot; which is the company that makes keyboards and other peripherals. As far as I know they are two completely different entities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@30 </p>
<p>You&#8217;re getting &#8220;Logistep&#8221; mixed up with &#8220;Logitech,&#8221; which is the company that makes keyboards and other peripherals. As far as I know they are two completely different entities.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574466</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ACS really stands for: Ambulance Chasing Solicitors.

I posted this very comment to TorrentFreak when the news broke that they had taken over for Davenporn Lyons in the extortion game.

Lawyers like these are what give the rest of the legal profession a bad name. Too bad that those like Ray Beckermann (aka New York Country Lawyer) who are helping to defend filesharers from the MAFIAA are so few in number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ACS really stands for: Ambulance Chasing Solicitors.</p>
<p>I posted this very comment to TorrentFreak when the news broke that they had taken over for Davenporn Lyons in the extortion game.</p>
<p>Lawyers like these are what give the rest of the legal profession a bad name. Too bad that those like Ray Beckermann (aka New York Country Lawyer) who are helping to defend filesharers from the MAFIAA are so few in number.</p>
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		<title>By: my 2 cent car crash.</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574465</link>
		<dc:creator>my 2 cent car crash.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the same Logistep co. that sells hardware like keyboard/mouse?
 If so folks should not buy there product if the profits go to this sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same Logistep co. that sells hardware like keyboard/mouse?<br />
 If so folks should not buy there product if the profits go to this sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Automated Copyright Settlement Letters Apparently A Lucrative Business &#124; dv8-designs</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574433</link>
		<dc:creator>Automated Copyright Settlement Letters Apparently A Lucrative Business &#124; dv8-designs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been involved in a similar settle-or-we&#8217;ll-sue letter sending campaign has been outed as sending bogus letters to people who had nothing to do with the content they&#8217;re alleged to have infringed upon. The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been involved in a similar settle-or-we&#8217;ll-sue letter sending campaign has been outed as sending bogus letters to people who had nothing to do with the content they&#8217;re alleged to have infringed upon. The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bender Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574419</link>
		<dc:creator>Bender Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old news regarding ISPA and their views on the standard of evidence currently being presented, similar was reported on BBC News on 12 May. However it is good to see the ISPA restating their postion, and additionally Which? reporting  on current developments as well.

That said why are the ISPs (who are members of the ISPA) not challenging the Norwich Pharmacal Orders if they are aware of the standard of evidence currently being presented?


From 12 May 09.
&quot;However, the Internet Services Providers&#039; Association (Ispa) - a trade body that represents ISP&#039;s - said that users could challenge disconnections through the courts and, at present, the technology available for monitoring and detecting illegal sharers was not of a standard &quot;where they would be admissible as evidence in court&quot;.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8044251.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news regarding ISPA and their views on the standard of evidence currently being presented, similar was reported on BBC News on 12 May. However it is good to see the ISPA restating their postion, and additionally Which? reporting  on current developments as well.</p>
<p>That said why are the ISPs (who are members of the ISPA) not challenging the Norwich Pharmacal Orders if they are aware of the standard of evidence currently being presented?</p>
<p>From 12 May 09.<br />
&#8220;However, the Internet Services Providers&#8217; Association (Ispa) &#8211; a trade body that represents ISP&#8217;s &#8211; said that users could challenge disconnections through the courts and, at present, the technology available for monitoring and detecting illegal sharers was not of a standard &#8220;where they would be admissible as evidence in court&#8221;.<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8044251.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8044251.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: popurls.com // popular today</title>
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		<dc:creator>popurls.com // popular today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Handsets Overheat, Turn Brown &#124; Gadget Lab &#124; Wired.com ######## digg&#160;The lost NASA tapes&#160;ISPs Doubt Accuracy of Anti-Piracy Evidence&#160;Coolest Environmental Advertising (Slideshow)&#160;Now Ubuntu doesn&#039;t need to reboot even [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 4nd</title>
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		<dc:creator>4nd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Reventon

Replying to the trolls simply encourages them. Trolls are of no consequence; pay them no mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Reventon</p>
<p>Replying to the trolls simply encourages them. Trolls are of no consequence; pay them no mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Reventon</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574384</link>
		<dc:creator>Reventon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@7 Manky and your Bollywood shite

Its people like you with your idiotic comments that spoil these discussions on torrentfreak for everyone else. You NEED to be censored</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@7 Manky and your Bollywood shite</p>
<p>Its people like you with your idiotic comments that spoil these discussions on torrentfreak for everyone else. You NEED to be censored</p>
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		<title>By: JesusHatesLies</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574380</link>
		<dc:creator>JesusHatesLies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mr Innocent

Good forum here about the ACS Law &amp; Davenport-lyons extortion racket. If you can be bothered to read through 201 pages and 5002 posts. lol. Interesting to skim through tho.

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44092</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mr Innocent</p>
<p>Good forum here about the ACS Law &amp; Davenport-lyons extortion racket. If you can be bothered to read through 201 pages and 5002 posts. lol. Interesting to skim through tho.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44092" rel="nofollow">http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44092</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Innocent</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/isps-doubt-accuracy-of-anti-piracy-evidence-090629/#comment-574379</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Innocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes i am with virgin media and yes there was a large problem in the Leeds area around 2006 - November 2008 with cloned boxes, this fact was even highlighted on BBC&#039;s watchdog at the time.

Anyone know acs laws IP ? it would be a shame if it was known to have downloaded hundreds of terrabytes of German pawn with no way to disprove it now wouldn&#039;t it...

pmsl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes i am with virgin media and yes there was a large problem in the Leeds area around 2006 &#8211; November 2008 with cloned boxes, this fact was even highlighted on BBC&#8217;s watchdog at the time.</p>
<p>Anyone know acs laws IP ? it would be a shame if it was known to have downloaded hundreds of terrabytes of German pawn with no way to disprove it now wouldn&#8217;t it&#8230;</p>
<p>pmsl</p>
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		<title>By: JesusHatesLies</title>
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		<dc:creator>JesusHatesLies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mr Innocent

Ps. 

Just tell ACS Law it must have been a cloned cable box. Ask them to prove it was you in court or F*ck off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mr Innocent</p>
<p>Ps. </p>
<p>Just tell ACS Law it must have been a cloned cable box. Ask them to prove it was you in court or F*ck off.</p>
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		<title>By: JesusHatesLies</title>
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		<dc:creator>JesusHatesLies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mr Innocent

I take it your with Virgin Media? Did you know they have a huge problem with cloned boxes? So yes someone could have downloaded copyrighted material useing a box which points the finger at you.
They really have to sort this problem out before they start clamping down and threatning thier customers. I personally wouldnt touch the company with a barge pole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mr Innocent</p>
<p>I take it your with Virgin Media? Did you know they have a huge problem with cloned boxes? So yes someone could have downloaded copyrighted material useing a box which points the finger at you.<br />
They really have to sort this problem out before they start clamping down and threatning thier customers. I personally wouldnt touch the company with a barge pole.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inaccuracy of Anti Piracy Evidence.
Next thing you know water will be wet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inaccuracy of Anti Piracy Evidence.<br />
Next thing you know water will be wet!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Innocent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Innocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could i just ask something about this quote :

Up to now, this hasn’t worried Logistep, DigiProtect, Davenport Lyons or ACS:Law since they say in their claims letters: “We do not claim that your computer was used to commit the infringing act (although we do not exclude this possibility), nor do we claim that you downloaded our client’s work. Our claim is that your Internet connection was used to make our client’s work available via one or more P2P networks. The file may not, therefore, be on your computer.”

I have a cable internet connection which comes in through my wall to a modem [ntl 210 i believe] which alas is not wireless! even my computer is not wireless infact there is as far as i know no way for anyone to intercept my data coming through my connection....so as i never downloaded the piece of crap to begin with an dont have it on my computer would this mean that someone at virgin media has intercepted my connection illegally between the isp and modem and used it to download this game ? i only ask because i can swear 100% that i have never had this game on my computer....

ps : I&#039;m on my fourth letter from acs [f]law now and have just reported them to reality pump themselves for ignoring each of my replies by email, they acknowledge receipt but ignore the contents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could i just ask something about this quote :</p>
<p>Up to now, this hasn’t worried Logistep, DigiProtect, Davenport Lyons or ACS:Law since they say in their claims letters: “We do not claim that your computer was used to commit the infringing act (although we do not exclude this possibility), nor do we claim that you downloaded our client’s work. Our claim is that your Internet connection was used to make our client’s work available via one or more P2P networks. The file may not, therefore, be on your computer.”</p>
<p>I have a cable internet connection which comes in through my wall to a modem [ntl 210 i believe] which alas is not wireless! even my computer is not wireless infact there is as far as i know no way for anyone to intercept my data coming through my connection&#8230;.so as i never downloaded the piece of crap to begin with an dont have it on my computer would this mean that someone at virgin media has intercepted my connection illegally between the isp and modem and used it to download this game ? i only ask because i can swear 100% that i have never had this game on my computer&#8230;.</p>
<p>ps : I&#8217;m on my fourth letter from acs [f]law now and have just reported them to reality pump themselves for ignoring each of my replies by email, they acknowledge receipt but ignore the contents.</p>
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		<title>By: knotwurrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>knotwurrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hoo bloody rah, about time uk ISP&#039;s grew some balls</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hoo bloody rah, about time uk ISP&#8217;s grew some balls</p>
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