Japanese ISPs Agree to Ban Pirates from the Internet
Written by enigmax on March 15, 2008Following a huge increase in complaints from the music, movie and software industries, the four major Japanese ISP organizations have agreed that they will work with copyright holders to track down copyright infringing file-sharers and disconnect them from the internet.
In 2006, a Japanese ISP decided to plan measures to stop their subscribers using file-sharing software, by tracking their activities and disconnecting them from the Internet. The plan didn’t come to fruition as the government stepped in and said that such monitoring might have privacy implications.
Now, under huge pressure from the movie, music and software industries, the four major ISP organizations in Japan are at it again, and have agreed to take drastic action against online pirates.
According to the report in Yomiuri Shimbun, the agreement would see copyright holders tracking down file-sharers on the Internet using “special detection software” and then notifying ISPs of alleged infringers. ISPs would first send out emailed warnings to those traced, then interrupt the Internet connection if action to cease the activity isn’t taken. For persistent breaches, the ISP would ultimately terminate the accounts of its subscribers.
These four major ISP organizations - which include Telecom Service Association and the Telecommunications Carriers Association - are made up of around 1,000 other ISPs, a large portion of the Japanese market. In collaboration with the copyright holders, the ISPs will set up a panel in April to decide exactly how the system should operate.
Right now, there is a lot discussion surrounding the suggestion that persistent file-sharers could be banned from the internet. So far there have been proposals in France, the UK and Australia.
During December last year we reported that the number of internet users file-sharing in Japan had increased by a 180% in a single year.
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‘infringement’!?, dont mind if i fuckin do.
does anyone here actually THINK that posting on TF gets results.Anyone?
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this ones called, dont trust those NIGGURZ over dayyer!
Animes will be worst hit
Did anyone who commented here actually read the fucking article?
THE ISP IS NOT GOING TO MONITOR YOUR TRAFFIC you dumbasses.
They will still be relying on COPYRIGHT HOLDERS to report IPs to the ISP. So NOTHING CHANGES in this regard. Traffic encryption won’t protect you, but using a proxy will.
The only thing that is ‘news’ here is that the ISPs are going to start kicking people off if they generate too many complaints. So in other words, you don’t even need to worry about anything until mass amounts of complaints start rolling in, then just use a proxy/vpn or switch ISPs and start fresh.
For the comprehension challenged, I repeat: THE ISP IS NOT GOING TO BE MONITORING CUSTOMERS TRAFFIC! Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows this is unfeasible anyways.
Goddamn I’m revolted by how stupid people in the scene are these days.
[quote comment="312418"]Here’s the dynamic:
Instead of buying a single CD for $20 (of which the artist may get 25 cents), I download fucking EVERYTHING.
Then, I LISTEN to it all.
Then, when I find the GOOD STUFF, I go to their show.
I buy their t-shirt, a button, whatever- because they make more from merchandise than they do from recording contracts and…
THEREIN LIES THE INDICTMENT.[/quote]
+1
[quote comment="312076"][quote comment="312070"]Stop using public p2p & encrypt transfers, you can be anonymous.[/quote]
what if they see a huge surge in encrypted traffic to your computer and cut you off based on that?[/quote]
be smart (like me) and start now,
i’ve been using encrypted traffic for years now ;)
Wonder if the ISPs are prepared for the revenue hit the disconnection of all the file sharers will cause ? And who will they serve when there are no subscribers ?
awww shiz. I get all of my music via illegal downloads, spesh from Japan.
I see sites like CDJapan having a massive profit in the future.
[quote comment="312218"]Used to work for one of UK’s biggest ISP’s… gotta tell you that NO-ONE in the building gave a rats-arse what their customers did online as long as they did not abuse the bandwidth and thus generate complaints about slow e-mail servers…
In fact…most of my collegues would d/l stuff at home (using the competitors ‘always on - no limnit access) and some would temp ‘increase’ their alloted webspace on their accounts (all employees needed a company account), d/l a movie in the office, go home, d/l the movie to their PC (the company hated macs and offered VERY LIMITED support…) then phone a buddy (on nightshift) and get them to delete the file and reduce their webspace back to default. The next day…lots of 700mg CD’s in the office!
As long as you gave one to the managers…no probs!
X-mas was great…networked FPS in-between very low call volumes!
My point? Only when outside forces come into play (anti-competitive laws, etc) will the ISP do ANYTHING that pisses off the customers/threatens profits.
If Japanese ISP’s have reacted this way, then it must be political or business pressures (conflicts of interest) that provoke the reaction.
[quote comment="312052"]
So if a 10Mbit connect cost 50$, they will downgrade to 512Kbps LoL
so they will pay only 8-9$/month.
Decrease of 90% income for JAP ISP’s
![/quote]
Sorry, but the real world doesn’t work like that (pity). The customers will still pay the full cost of monthly subscriptions but get the lower speed. If/when they phone the helpline, they will be pointed at whatever part of the T&C (Terms & Conditions) of their contract that covers this. Customer with ISP before these new T&C came into affect? No problem. All ISP’s (also banks, etc) have a clause hidden in saying that the T&C can be updated at any time and it is in the customers best interest to check the latest version online frequently. They know that no-one will do this so…
Don’t believe me? Good for you (shows independent thought and intelligence). Check your ISP’s T&C. If you cannot see it then it is in one of the parts of the legal mumbo-jumbo towards the bottom.
What’s that? Unjust? Unfair? Too right! Feel free to find another ISP (they are all the same) but you will have to pay your full term of contract before we let you go. Are you swearing at me sir? I’m afraid that we are not expected to put up with that sir…please calm down. If you have a problem, I can give you the address of our complaints department? Still swearing sir? I’m afraid that we are terminating your service as you have violated the T&C (the part about abusing our staff). Your web access will be terminated immediately and a bill sent for the remainder of your contract. Not going to pay sir? That’s between you and our recovery department. Have a good day!
Think I’m joking? Go work for an ISP. Easy to get in (through an agency). Ask questions then GET OUT like I did before you turn to the dark side…
Guess that’s why they are rich…
P.S. For anyone thinking that there is a legal solution to the above… their lawyers are paid bags of money to make the contracts airtight (they poach the best ones straight out of lawschool by throwing fast cars and big houses at them). Talk about a motivated law firm…
Unfair? Damn straight! If its any consilation though…those ’smug’ helpdesk employees have just found their jobs ‘outsourced’ to India (glad I finished there some time ago).
Who am I? I was the helpdesk employee who DIDN’T put you on hold then terminate the call, DIDN’T pass you to sales when you had a tech enquiry, who KNEW enough about the business to know that he did not know EVERYTHING about how ISP’s work (and found the answer from those who did instead of BS’ing you) and who CALLED you back when he said he would and stayed on the phone until your ISP related fault was fixed…a rare creature indeed![/quote]
Its usually hard to believe people like you exist.
But you do.
Thank you.
[quote comment="312333"]sigh…I was afraid that would happen, the music/software/movie companies banding together. If the book *publishing houses* and the newspaper organizations jump on their bandwagon…they’ll have so much power nothing will stop them.[/quote]
No, book publishing is a dying (or at least recessing) business [only a small fraction of people aged 3-30 read books], and online news has been making major inroads over printed [many fewer people today get international newspapers then did 10 years ago, at least in my experience]. I consider this unfortunate, because print is much more credible than digital, and the two should complement each other, not dominate each other.
But my point is, all of the other industries working together has not stemmed the flow or even growth of file-sharing, even after many hundreds of millions of dollars, tens of thousands of lawsuits, birthing several detection&enforcement agencies, and attacking a dozen sovereign nations’ civil governments and legal systems.
The addition of two crippled, marginalized, and possibly dying outside distributors is not, in my opinion, going to sway the tide in their favor.
[quote comment="312504"]consumers, not fat dicks in suits, should make the laws.
im talkin about politicians.
did anybodys country let , i say ‘let’ the people have a vote on the cannabis laws?
no?
anyone?
now is the time.
im talkin ddos attacks, and letter bombs.
fuck ‘em.let them know roger aint gettin oppressed no more…….[/quote]
FYI, they shake off DDoS attacks like water off a ducks back;
if you want them to sit up, freak out, start screaming and grab a gun though, raid their databases.
then, maybe, publish them.
Remember, Sony owns a huge amount of the pirated content.
The problem with trying to stop piracy is that honest file-sharers will be hurt in the process. One good lawsuit from a legitimate file-sharer could put an end to this nonsense.
You don’t know much about how Japan workd now do you???
I love the Japanese! Theeir humbleness, acquiessence, single-mindedness, obedience, devotion, uniformity, …. That’s whi I told my wife that if I ever remarry my next will be a japanese girl! I can already feel her toes in my back! Ahhhh.
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me chinese me no liky pirat3z me gunna shut yoz ispee
me chinese me no liky pirat3z me gunna shut yoz ispee …
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Get some legit torrents up that are titled the same as the next big movie, have them tracked and hope to get banned. Sue the fuckers and end the war.
The new excellent plan will again fail to stop filesharing. In a related development, pigs will still fail to fly.
I predict this every time and it turns to be right every time.
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