Ner..ner….nerdgasm.

Ner..ner….nerdgasm.

For you to get into troubles they’d have to produce evidence that you were uploading that stuff. And they usually can’t. They don’t even care.

There was a recent case in Switzerland where a 18 years old girl was found guilty of having shared 4200 songs and 270 movies. Her punishment: a fine of CHF 400.– and two years of probation. Only if she gets caught again during those two years she might have to do 30 days of jail time (Swiss jails are like luxury hotels in other countries …).

And that ruling was heavily criticised here in Switzerland for being “too harsh”. :-)

4470 counts of copyright infringement. A fine of about CHF 0.08948 per infringement if you get caught uploading that stuff …

Hey, that’s a good price :)

Getting caught downloading stuff here is a total non-issue because as I said it’s 100% legal. Swiss ISP’s even use this for advertisements, e.g. “Your downloads will be faster with our network! Get your Cable modem here!”, even the government-owned Swisscom does that. :-)

yes you can, there called libraries

Damn, I’m proud of you, Spain!

Now that the record button on my cassette deck has been replaced by a click and a faster more efficient way of distributing my enormous collection of music that I have purchased 4 separate times (I have 10,000 vinyl records and 25,000+ CD’s) to a life long cost of nearly $300,000.00 they are now freaking out. People will always pay for quality! The media industries produce a large amount of crap, and radio, tv and what is left of print play and promote the crap because they are getting paid to do so. Without FS or P2P we would never find what is actually worth purchasing.

I do not agree with the judges analogy, but I do agree with his ruling.

How many people test drive cars or, try on clothes before we buy? P2P allows me to test drive the music before I buy, but now that the cover art, liner notes and such are also dying, why buy? I am actually getting less for my money.

Also, this argument that iTunes saves the consumer money makes me laugh!
A. 0.99 per track + 13 tracks on a CD is $12.87
B. Led Zepplin II=9tracks for $13.15 from a label, but $4.68 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000002J03/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&qid=1276292477&sr=1-3&condition=new

With iTunes you get a file then pay extra for art, liner notes whatever. RIP OFF!

I feel I have given THESE PIRATES (the labels) enough of my hard earned money on faith that their product is worth the expense. I have no more faith in their taste. I am test driving everything from now on!

Now, with the business model failing why would the Labels allow iTunes to sell their product? It seems all the money the industry has paid out to try and stop pirating could be used to launch a store for each label cutting Mr. Jobs out therefore realizing a higher profit margin for both the label and the artist with even a lower cost to the consumer.

Did I really just type all of this drivel? To PIRATE a phrase;
That is just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Good movies do Good at theaters no matter whether there is file sharing or no file sharing.
Removing file sharing might affect a small % of sales, but it’s not even close to what they depict.

I’ve seen over 8 movies at the theaters in the past 2 months. And I’ve seen over 18 torrented movies as well.
If I wasn’t able to get those 18 movies torrented, it doesnt mean I will go to the cinema and watch them.

I just won’t watch them.

Release something of value, and I grantee that people will see it.

Oh come on now. I lend and borrow a lot of physical books. I’ve never lent out a book I haven’t read already. So much for being deprived of it. I never really want them back either. In my peer group we are always buying different books, reading and then lending them in a big circle. Should this be illegal?

You don’t need incentives for books, art or science. Jonas Salk, the man who discovered the polio vaccine (the disease that was crippling millions of people), when he was asked in a televised interview who owned the patent to the vaccine, Salk replied: “There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?”

You can’t patent information. There is no such thing as intelectual property. Its like saying you own electrons inside brains, that exchange information (culture).

Wrong I can still read it by making a copy for myself before I lend it

We will continue to share our culture. That is fact. Come to terms with this reality.

Exposure of any kind for free pretty much demolishes any incentive to buy said item. I’m not buying a movie I already saw, a book I already read or a game I’ve already played. I already have a copy stored away safely in my long-term memory and feel no need to part with my cabbage for something I have already experienced.

Other than the rare cases of reference material, there is no reason to buy something when I can borrow it. By the same extension, why borrow something when I can download it…

Since filesharing involves no robbery, your “robbing a bank” analogy fails. Hard.

Try again.

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MAFIAA lawyer/previous judge: UK precedent.
FTD: Spanish precedent.

I really don’t feel pity for the movie industry since it seems every time there is a movie release the papers say “Whatever Movie just hit a new box office record!!!!!!!!” Yes, they really seem to be in dire straits.

Also, when people who own several giant houses all over the world are whining about losing money, it really makes me wonder. Not to mention the fact that for good bands the concerts are always sold out.

The big recording and movie industries are just scared because technology is slowly making them obsolete.

Also, the way they rip people off is just a bad business model. If you bought a vhs tape for $30, you can’t get a dvd replacement for free despite the fact that you already paid for the movie. I’m pretty sure most people who file share have already paid the companies that hold the copyright several times over.

Technology is changing the world. The industry needs to change with it.Make movies people will watch in the theater. Make songs people want to listen to in concert.

Kudos to you, sir. Seeing someone use the brain instead of sucking up to the Big Media greed machine, gives me some hope for the future. Respect. \m/

Now where do I send this cigar? ;)

Still, great to see that some common sense remains here and there. It won’t last though. Let’s not get overly optimistic: we still need strong anonymous, encrypted, and decentralized P2P.

Common sense would most likely mean a majority opinion, in this case it is not. Duh.