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	<title>Comments on: Justin Bieber: Send Me a Pirate Copy of UFC Event</title>
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		<title>By: Jhon Deo</title>
		<link>/justin-bieber-send-me-a-pirate-copy-of-ufc-event-130708/#comment-1106408</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jhon Deo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If someone copies the telecast of a fight for me, and then gives it to me as a gift what is taken?  Everyone who paid for their property still has it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone copies the telecast of a fight for me, and then gives it to me as a gift what is taken?  Everyone who paid for their property still has it.</p>
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		<title>By: tongku04</title>
		<link>/justin-bieber-send-me-a-pirate-copy-of-ufc-event-130708/#comment-1106151</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jul 2013 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gary BB</title>
		<link>/justin-bieber-send-me-a-pirate-copy-of-ufc-event-130708/#comment-1104896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary BB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2013 10:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Little maggot needs to die.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little maggot needs to die.</p>
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		<title>By: Ultimate Fighting Champio &#124; Mix Martial Arts News</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Justin Bieber: Send Me a Pirate Copy of UFC Event &#124; TorrentFreak http://torrentfreak.com/According to estimates Justin Bieber is worth a cool $110 million, but that didn&#039;t stop him from strapping on an eye patch this past weekend. After learning of the huge drama taking place during Saturday&#039;s Ultimate Fighting &#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Justin Bieber: Send Me a Pirate Copy of UFC Event | TorrentFreak <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/According" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/According</a> to estimates Justin Bieber is worth a cool $110 million, but that didn&#039;t stop him from strapping on an eye patch this past weekend. After learning of the huge drama taking place during Saturday&#039;s Ultimate Fighting &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonion</title>
		<link>/justin-bieber-send-me-a-pirate-copy-of-ufc-event-130708/#comment-1104775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2013 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honastly Id buy everything I have downloaded to support the people who make good products (programs, video ect) but Im an average poor fag and not a kid who has 10mill.... seriously throw out some cash ffs you dont need cheap ways out your rich!!!.... oh wait I forgot the whole douche bag thing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honastly Id buy everything I have downloaded to support the people who make good products (programs, video ect) but Im an average poor fag and not a kid who has 10mill&#8230;. seriously throw out some cash ffs you dont need cheap ways out your rich!!!&#8230;. oh wait I forgot the whole douche bag thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: watfordjc</title>
		<link>/justin-bieber-send-me-a-pirate-copy-of-ufc-event-130708/#comment-1104710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[watfordjc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The copyright owner can also create a Bieber license that says (in essence after going through the legal department) &quot;non-transferable license to view the content for Justin Bieber and no-one else.&quot; We&#039;re not talking about just anyone here, Lorenzo Fertitta follows TMZ and after going past their tweets about Bieber and a mop bucket, Bieber and some logo, Bieber and some cup, Bieber and Selena, Bieber and something about NFL, Bieber shirtless... nope they didn&#039;t tweet about it.

Oh, wait, how stupid of me. Fertitta follows Dana and Dana retweeted Bieber. Ergo Bieber reached the CEO of UFC. Does the CEO own the copyright? If the CEO makes a new copy would that be unlawful? If UMC don&#039;t have distribution rights have you checked to see if Bieber&#039;s tweet reached the relevant person via retweets (or if said person already follows Bieber?)

Your bad faith assumption (and that of Torrentfreak) is that Bieber asked millions of people for a pirate copy whereas if you assumed good faith you might have thought about &quot;six degrees of separation&quot; - Bieber to UFC CEO: two degrees of separation. With approximately 0.002% of the planet using twitter regularly and overlapping interests between those we follow and those who follow us I&#039;m certain if Bieber tweeted something that had relevance to me it would show up in my twitter feed before it makes news (whether that be via a poker player, classical guitarist, singer, actor, security analyst, bodybuilder, my MP, an IRL friend, or in a theoretical case of Bieber slapping a swan: via Daffy Duck, The Queen, the Canal &amp; River Trust, and RSPB Scotland).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The copyright owner can also create a Bieber license that says (in essence after going through the legal department) &#8220;non-transferable license to view the content for Justin Bieber and no-one else.&#8221; We&#8217;re not talking about just anyone here, Lorenzo Fertitta follows TMZ and after going past their tweets about Bieber and a mop bucket, Bieber and some logo, Bieber and some cup, Bieber and Selena, Bieber and something about NFL, Bieber shirtless&#8230; nope they didn&#8217;t tweet about it.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, how stupid of me. Fertitta follows Dana and Dana retweeted Bieber. Ergo Bieber reached the CEO of UFC. Does the CEO own the copyright? If the CEO makes a new copy would that be unlawful? If UMC don&#8217;t have distribution rights have you checked to see if Bieber&#8217;s tweet reached the relevant person via retweets (or if said person already follows Bieber?)</p>
<p>Your bad faith assumption (and that of Torrentfreak) is that Bieber asked millions of people for a pirate copy whereas if you assumed good faith you might have thought about &#8220;six degrees of separation&#8221; &#8211; Bieber to UFC CEO: two degrees of separation. With approximately 0.002% of the planet using twitter regularly and overlapping interests between those we follow and those who follow us I&#8217;m certain if Bieber tweeted something that had relevance to me it would show up in my twitter feed before it makes news (whether that be via a poker player, classical guitarist, singer, actor, security analyst, bodybuilder, my MP, an IRL friend, or in a theoretical case of Bieber slapping a swan: via Daffy Duck, The Queen, the Canal &amp; River Trust, and RSPB Scotland).</p>
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		<title>By: watfordjc</title>
		<link>/justin-bieber-send-me-a-pirate-copy-of-ufc-event-130708/#comment-1104681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[watfordjc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if person A holds the copyright or is in a position to offer it for free? 41.5 million followers is approximately 0.00058% of the population of the planet.

Out of interest, looked at https://connect.data.com/directory/company/list/gjvdhUKUDxNKt0SoE5xOpQ/ultimate-fighting-championship-ufc ... the first UFC director for marketing is Caren Bell (CarenBellUFC on twitter) who... follows Justin Bieber.

I don&#039;t really fancy going through the entire list of directors, but the suggestion of Bieber asking for a legitimate copy not being possible?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if person A holds the copyright or is in a position to offer it for free? 41.5 million followers is approximately 0.00058% of the population of the planet.</p>
<p>Out of interest, looked at <a href="https://connect.data.com/directory/company/list/gjvdhUKUDxNKt0SoE5xOpQ/ultimate-fighting-championship-ufc" rel="nofollow">https://connect.data.com/directory/company/list/gjvdhUKUDxNKt0SoE5xOpQ/ultimate-fighting-championship-ufc</a> &#8230; the first UFC director for marketing is Caren Bell (CarenBellUFC on twitter) who&#8230; follows Justin Bieber.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really fancy going through the entire list of directors, but the suggestion of Bieber asking for a legitimate copy not being possible?</p>
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		<title>By: watfordjc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[watfordjc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Daily Mail... where eating a packet of crisps is the equivalent to drinking 3 litres of cooking oil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Daily Mail&#8230; where eating a packet of crisps is the equivalent to drinking 3 litres of cooking oil.</p>
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		<title>By: watfordjc</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless he was talking about VHS, &quot;send it to me&quot; could mean anything. If someone asks me for a copy of Skype they&#039;ll get a link. Windows 8 they&#039;ll get this link: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx. A Bieber song... &quot;Google it. I don&#039;t want to hear him on his website/Youtube/Myspace/etc.&quot;

UFC? Can&#039;t be bothered to Google it. I don&#039;t follow Bieber so don&#039;t have a clue what country he is/was in, but wouldn&#039;t be surprised if regional content restrictions exist. Suggesting pay per view (ignoring the fact it had finished) is a bit like suggesting South Park Studios to someone in the UK or &quot;go to ABC.com/NBC.com/syfy.com/etc&quot;.

And that&#039;s ignoring the fact he&#039;s famous. UFC&#039;s response is a bit odd... I&#039;m sure if he asked for someone to send him some Coca-Cola or a ticket/invite to the next movie premier he wants to see the relevant marketing departments would jump at the chance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless he was talking about VHS, &#8220;send it to me&#8221; could mean anything. If someone asks me for a copy of Skype they&#8217;ll get a link. Windows 8 they&#8217;ll get this link: <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx</a>. A Bieber song&#8230; &#8220;Google it. I don&#8217;t want to hear him on his website/Youtube/Myspace/etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>UFC? Can&#8217;t be bothered to Google it. I don&#8217;t follow Bieber so don&#8217;t have a clue what country he is/was in, but wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if regional content restrictions exist. Suggesting pay per view (ignoring the fact it had finished) is a bit like suggesting South Park Studios to someone in the UK or &#8220;go to ABC.com/NBC.com/syfy.com/etc&#8221;.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s ignoring the fact he&#8217;s famous. UFC&#8217;s response is a bit odd&#8230; I&#8217;m sure if he asked for someone to send him some Coca-Cola or a ticket/invite to the next movie premier he wants to see the relevant marketing departments would jump at the chance.</p>
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		<title>By: WD</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vancouver was my next guess, lol. Not called Hollywood North for no reason. :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vancouver was my next guess, lol. Not called Hollywood North for no reason. :P</p>
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