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Kim Dotcom: Mega Search Engines Have to Play by the Rules

Kim Dotcom has admitted that Mega is behind the shut down of the French-based indexing site Search-Mega.me. Mega’s team decided to take action because the site didn’t have a takedown policy, which offended some copyright holders. Dotcom stresses that Mega search engines will have to play by the rules in future. Filestube, the largest Mega search engine on the Internet, is an example of a well behaved service.

megaYesterday a flurry of bogus DMCA notices made thousands of Mega files unavailable to the public. The actions appeared to be targeted specifically at Mega search engine Mega-Search.me.

At first it was unclear who was behind the actions, but Kim Dotcom admits today that Mega took action against the French site because is wasn’t playing by the rules. Many of the takedown notices weren’t real, Mega was simply removing all links on the site, legal or not.

Talking to TorrentFreak, Dotcom explains that Mega was concerned about the massive press attention the search engine received, with articles often focusing on the many copyrighted files that were indexed. In addition, Mega also received complaints from rightsholders about the search index.

The above triggered Mega to force Mega-Search out of business, proactively. Mega justify their actions by pointing out that Mega-Search.me didn’t play by the rules.

Firstly, it didn’t have its own takedown procedure but simply linked to Mega’s. And on top of that the site used Mega’s logo as well as a similar design which may lead the public to think that it was affiliated with Mega.

In hindsight Dotcom admits that Mega’s response to the situation, which was decided when he was asleep, might not have been ideal. Dotcom apologizes to the users whose legal files are still locked and said he would have approached the situation differently.

“I would have preferred to send the mega-search.me guys a warning and say: put up a takedown procedure that allows third parties to remove links from your index, remove the Mega branding and just be a good corporate citizen that cooperates with rightsholders,” Dotcom tells TorrentFreak.

In part the panicky reaction was motivated by complaints from copyright holders.

“We have had some emails from rightsholders that said ‘these guys don’t even have a takedown procedure, what are you doing about that?’ When we are faced with a situation like this, then we have to act,” Dotcom told us.

Added to that, dozens of news sites that reported on the “infringing” nature of the site.

“If it’s right in front of our face and it’s put to us so prominently, we have to do something about it. Then we are in a state of knowledge and legally required to act.”

However, search engines and indexes are not banned by definition, as long as they play by the rules. This means having a proper takedown policy and a design that is not confusingly similar to Mega.

Looking at the future Dotcom says that Mega wont be policing the Internet, but will respond to “rogue sites” if needed.

“You will be seeing us acting aggressively towards sites that try to mimic Mega and use our logos. We’ll also go after sites that don’t have any takedown facilities, because that’s the biggest problem,” he told TorrentFreak.

This means that sites such as FilesTube, who are playing by the rules, shouldn’t be too worried. FilesTube is currently the largest Mega search engine out there, indexing thousands of links.


FilesTube searching Mega links

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FilesTube crawls the Internet for links to Mega files and adds these to their search engine. Although Mega deliberately blocks Google from indexing its site, search engine crawlers can spot links that are posted on blogs and other websites.

In a blog post Mega suggests that users are advised not to share files in public, but Dotcom says that this is not the case. People can share whatever they want as long as the files don’t infringe any copyrights.

Mega, meanwhile, hopes to put its focus on improving and expanding their service. Millions of files are added every day and in a few days Mega’s bandwidth consumption will exceed that of New Zealand.

“The site has been growing massively, we have a few million users and over 60 million files. Next week we will be pushing more bandwidth than the whole country of New Zealand,” Dotcom says.

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  • http://twitter.com/OfficialGarwood Jason Garwood

    Kim Dotcom is the biggest sell-out ever. He’s ratted people out to the police and now he’s acting to take down rogue sites?! He sounds just like the FBI!!

    • quawonk

      I bet Mega is a trap.

    • Guest

      ratted people out to the police? now I need to know more about that!
      and why ain’t nobody on TF wrote about that!

      • ScrewEwe2

        Who invited all these Guest’s?

        • Guest

          what’s your point?

        • ScrewEwe2

          Because a couple of my earlier reply’s were wrongly tagged by Disqus as post’s made by “Guest”. The first “Guest” posted and was then replied to by a different “Guest”. That “Guest” was then replied to by a 3rd different “Guest”. Disqus or the mods fixed it. You had to be there. it was nothing personal.

  • Anyone

    and this is how Mega dies

    I hardly knew you

    • comingupforblair

      ha ha ha ha ha

  • cgimusic

    It is a shame that Mega looks to have become a lapdog for copyright holders. Pro-actively removing non-infringing content was completely the wrong decision and caused a lot of collateral damage. I have lost a lot of faith in Mega over this.

    • NewWorldStoner

      Indeed it has, this is clearly one of the many problems with centralized file hosting services.

      I see a need for a decentralized, encrypted and open-source file hosting service – a blend of Mega, Bittorrent and Tor perhaps.

      Such software would truly annihilate the copyright cartel’s dreams of censorship and make freedom of information a reality.

      • nono

        Remove Mega from the equation, it’s got nothing to do here.
        And I’d say such a system already exists: Freenet but with all the problems that come with true anonymity and strong encryption.
        It’s slow and pretty inconvenient for a luser to use it.
        As of today, not worth the trouble unless you’re into illegal stuff.

        • NewWorldStoner

          Fair point, I guess what I’m trying to say is that if Dotcom really cared about internet freedom as he claims, Mega would be open source, decentralized and anonymous.

          Also the idea of information being illegal in the first place is ludicrous. Laws are supposed to exist to protect us and I’ve never heard of information jumping out and stabbing someone. Sticks and stones.

        • nono

          You know what I’m referring to when I say “illegal stuff”…
          I’d say that at least, CP being illegal has the merit of pushing it in the “dark corners” of the internet (anonymity networks, private communities) where only people who’re looking for it will find it.
          But let’s not get into that debate, there are good arguments on both sides and that’s not really the topic here.

        • Anonymous

          +++agree. Dotcom is a business man, first and foremost. The multimillion dollar mansion shows that he cares about himself more than the needy.

          But I’m also a biased pirate that believes that filesharing is awesome because it allows poor people to access culture more readily than ever before.

          When has a business ever really made a major positive change for those that were needy? halp?

        • Guest321

          Well Bill Gates did make the biggest donation in the history of mankind for the needy, $28 billion. So you can say his business did change countless lives. He’s a rare example though.

        • Anonymous

          Alot of the vaccines he provides kill poor people

        • Grammar Police

          You, sir, are a fucking moron, and it is you and your ilk that kill people by spreading deadly diseases that could easily be stopped if you’d TAKE YOUR GOD DAMN VACCINES.

        • John

          god didn’t damb anyone if i am correct, you damn yourself

        • Guest

          Why the hell MEGA an HTML5 website needs ADOBE FLASH to DOWNLOAD?

        • Cameron

          It uses a flash version if your browser doesn’t support the necessary features. Download the latest Google Chrome and works flawlessly.

        • John

          not sure about that shit, he also said he is going to use eugen87ics and put shit in vaccines and era)_dicate a severe large percentage of the population with that and he has been doing that, so are you sure you can call that needy?

        • PelouzeTF

          jeeeeez, go get a job

        • n_mailer

          “As of today, not worth the trouble unless you’re into illegal stuff.”

          As of tomorrow, it may be the only way you can get legal stuff. Ugh.

          Although honestly, I’d like to play the devil’s advocate a little regarding Mega’s action. A site like the one they blocked could well be a MAFIAA-funded site set up to entrap them.

          Remember, they’re dealing with thugs here, not “artists” or “hard-working people.” They have to keep their eyes open.

        • http://twitter.com/MelanieAlberto5 Melanie Alberto

          Then we are in a state of knowledge and legally required to act.http://www.Amazingjob69dollareveryhourontheinternet.qr.net/jOZj/125-fc4a-4d8=uPq7jVGPs3g&NR

        • BallBiter

          u mean stuff that the real internet had on it in the beginning years before the govt and others removed all the stuff, which is the true nature of the world as witnessed, yes most of the population wants little girls, look at history, don’t be a moron and say “its il)(igal b/c we say it is, fuck the numbers popular vote means shit. By the numbers as shown by history, the most visited and trafficked sites on the internet were l0lit*a sites and model sites until pressure and raids and ill *ig()al deletion removed them. They were the most visites worldwide, most trafficked, fueled the creation of the internet and infrastrucure, there was not a website aroudn that did not have c *p on it if u want to call it that, and if u research history, u will see that.

        • Christopher Kidwell

          Unfortunately true, BallBiter. The fact is that humanity is hardwired to see young girls and boys as sexually desirable, it’s not a ‘deviancy’ but a simple fact of humanity.

          The only reason we don’t have 90% of the population partaking in it is because the religious zealots have made it illegal, because they know that having good sexual encounters young is the number one buster of religions on this planet.

          They don’t actually care about young children being forced into sexual encounters, you can see that by the number of Christian/Jewish/Protestant priests who have been found actually forcible raping children and were not reported.

    • MadAsASnake

      I don’t think Mega have got it quite right yet, and they are under intense scrutiny. I’d be inclined to give it a chance. After all, if Mega shows itself to be squeaky clean, it’s in a much better position to challenge bogus takedowns. If the focus needs to be taken off the “greedy pirates” and put firmly back into the courts of the rightsholders and their sustained abuses. This would be beneficial not just to Mega but society as a whole…

      • cgimusic

        I agree that being cautious does help them challenge takedowns but doesn’t them being the ones doing the bogus takedowns completely defeat the purpose?

        • Samuel

          I do not believe they are bogus take-downs. Obviously, he only had build one error page. This was simply removing all the links and displaying the only page available.

        • ThankFuckI’mNotACunt

          Of course they are bogus takedowns. Didn’t you read the article on here yesterday about people testing to see what was happening by posting their own perfectly legitimate content (not copyrighted to anyone but themselves) onto Search-Mega.me and having those files removed very shortly afterwards as though a DMCA notice had ben served? 100% bogus for each and every one of those takedowns. And it was happening to thousands of files from people with a right to post public links and share their own work. Mega have gone about it all wrong. They have no obligation to take down links from ANY third party site until they are asked to do so by rightsholders as they have no way of knowing whether the poster of the link had the right to do so… they shouldn’t be proactively trying to protect other peoples’ copyright for them if they’re not responsible enough to do it for themselves.

        • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

          Not if in a few months they’ve put themselves in a solid position to do what Google & RapidShare et al haven’t done: Litigate the pro-Filesharing anti-Copyright arguments in the Appellate Courts; and, have adjusted their practices to enable users further.

          One thing agreed: If within a few months Kim DotCom hasn’t publicly pivoted to a clear and aggressive pro-filesharing posture (necessarily within DMCA, but challenging effectively its abuses), his only customer should be Chris Dodd; and, his competitors should be eating the last three crumbs of his lunch (carcass).

        • n_mailer

          Their target was a suspicious-looking search engine, not really files of any kind. The same files not linked through that search engine are alive and thriving until challenged (I assume and hope).

        • cgimusic

          But as a user I don’t really care. What is it to me if my files are deleted by a bogus takedown or because they happened to be indexed on a site so it was pre-emptively taken down?

    • comingupforblair

      And I have lost alot of faith in human beings because of thieving cunts like yourself!!!! K? Ok glad we cleared that up

      • cgimusic

        Hello there friendly neighbourhood troll.

      • Fugasmic

        You mad bro. I’d like another helping of your anger there please. It makes me smile.

      • NewWorldStoner

        And I have lost a lot of faith in human beings because of copyright industry hired trolls such as yourself, who fail to understand that file sharers are not thieves.

        You cannot own information and you cannot steal information, because once taken it cannot be returned.

        • ScrewEwe2

          And I have lost a lot of faith in people because of Faiths.

        • NewWorldStoner

          And I have lost a lot of faith in people because of people loosing faith in people.

        • I Don’t Givite A Sh

          Fuck faith!!! Fuck religion!!!! oops I went off topic

        • PsyCLopSe

          Have faith my brothers.

      • Guest

        hey! don’t blame society for piracy
        that’s exactly that they (MAFIAA and fatass CEOs) want, us to fight one another in the name of their money, can’t you see!
        open your eyes and sign in for piraty party!

      • Guest

        And I have lost alot of faith in coffee beans because of assaulting penises like yourself!!!!

    • FighterFei

      They don’t really have a choice. It’s important that MEGA distance
      itself as much as possible from a rogue file-sharing service because not
      doing so simply provides the courts with more ammunition.

      Remember
      that even if MEGA has been able to prop up a new service, it is still
      very much in the crosshairs of several courts. This is as much a
      decision for survival of the service as it is a decision for the
      survival of its persons.

      It must show the courts that it “cares”
      about the “seriousness” of copyright infringement. The collateral damage
      is unfortunate, but an acceptable loss when you consider the
      consequences. If you don’t like it, just don’t use the service, or don’t
      make your uploads public.

    • James

      What does this have to with copyright? Kimdotcom is far far worse than copyright holders. He’s taking down 100% legal files en masse just because he doesn’t like the site that has a link to them. When have the copyright gangs ever done something something like that?

      This just confirms him as a selfish greedy hypocrite with no standards.

      • dude

        But have you even read about his history and previous entrepreneurship? Dotcom has never cared for the users, he’s always been about making the dough, even as badly as direcly defrauding money from innocent people back in the time. His lavish lifestyle with expensive cars and childish number plates were a perfect proof.

        I recommend reading the wiki page of him.

        • Guest

          I don’t get it why people would believe him and make a so called ‘hero’ out of him, why? just because he went to prison?! he ain’t no hero! well if he saved people from the fire in prison hi is lol
          but really, they praise him like a effing Jesus (there was some ancient guy..) but people should be supporting pirate parties, people that do something for the copyright issue.. anyone but that “ordinary businessman”

        • Techanon

          Its because of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” effect. Kim milked his fight against the MAFIAA and US DoJ for all the good PR it was worth.

    • TempleNewsam

      He was always just a fat fuck looking to turn megabucks to buy more pies. For him it was never about internet freedom or destroying the copyright cartels.

      • Pelham123

        “destroying the copyright cartels.”

        Truthfully, most of us would settle for keeping the copyright cartels from destroying us. That’s turned into a full-time job.

        • TempleNewsam

          GPWM

    • JG

      In this case, I actually think the “collateral damage” (all non-infringing files that got nuked) was worth it & the only real response Mega could have implemented….

      Say they had gone through all the files & removed only the infringing files…. Privacy rights groups would be up in arms because Mega is now “peeking” at every file you upload… We may know its an automated process just comparing MD5 hash values or whatever and that you really can’t tell much from just seeing something like ceaa71d4d1cb27a103d9b49aa2080ce9 but I’m sure when it reaches John Q. Public they’re going to read it as Kim & crew are sitting there looking at all the naughty pics they’ve uploaded of them & their significant other….

      But the worse part will be the copyright industry…. We know very well that at some point, an infringing file is going to make its way onto Mega, and inevitability that file is going to be found by the copyright industry. They’ll consider it the goose’s golden egg & use it to crucify Mega. They’ll claim Mega was only pretending to be a law-abiding site and filtering out all infringing files so they would stop watching the site like a hawk. Then bam, as soon as the poor defenseless copyright industry lets their guard down, Mega reveals its true colours as a pirate haven allowing infringing files to be uploaded without any sanctions against the uploader…. The courts will agree, because if they could filter out infringing files from Mega-Search, then they should be able to tell whats infringing on their own servers and since they did nothing to prevent it from being shared…. Mega gets nuked from the ‘net, and even more draconian laws get enacted to protect the copyright industry against pirates, basically forcing all other sites to shut down in fear an infringing file might slip past their new legally mandated filters…

      And/or SOPA 2.0 gets rushed through & passed before we can assemble for a second protest…. After all, it wasn’t until Internet Black-Out Day that most in congress even realized the American people as a whole were against SOPA. I wouldn’t put it past the MAFIAA lobbyists to tell their assigned senator/congress person “oh no, they were against the idea of black listing people off the net…. We’ve re-worked it so now you have to petition to be white listed by the entertainment empire to be allowed to have a site on the net… The people will love it”

      • cgimusic

        It really wouldn’t be that complicated and what privacy issues would arise when the links and encryption keys are public? Surely it would just be a question of opening the files, checking if they have infringing content and then deleting them.

        I know it would take time to do but Mega were not legally obligated to do anything about a search engine for their links with no DMCA policy.

    • Anon

      More worrying is the fact that a NZ-based internet-company was able to eliminate another in France in a blink and for trivial reasons.

      Also, Mega should just stop the excuses and simply state that they take down everything anyone ever asks for, because that’s what they do.

  • http://twitter.com/JerkfaceMcGee Jerkface McGee

    Thanks for the article as usual Ernesto.

    There’s a small typo @ “Mega took action against the French site because is wasn’t playing by the rules.” ‘is’ should be ‘it’. Might of missed a few others too

    • BuddhaFacePalmed

      *Might have

      Don’t you hate it when people try to grammatically correct you? :P

      • ScrewEwe2

        I know Isure as hell do.

      • http://twitter.com/JerkfaceMcGee Jerkface McGee

        No good deed goes unpunished. An observer of Muphry’s law, I see.

  • horseshit

    He may plan to ‘play’ by the rules the same way as Google does. Then again, no one can find a file of dodgy legality there….

  • Justice

    Lesser of two evils. If this generates Kim money to fight and win battles against the MAFIAA, then it’s a nessecary evil. Kim NEEDS to be able to say he’s staying within the law if he can even hope to mount a counter offensive against the blatant abuse of rights that the MAFIAA perpetrate.

    • nono

      Please friends, stop thinking KD is some kind of hero who’s fighting the good fight against the evil copyright lobbies.
      He’s just a businessman trying to make money, he doesn’t care about the political side of all this except for marketing purposes.

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        Believe one thing! In the war against Chris Dodd, Kim’s a Hero!

    • Guest321

      I sincerely doubt Kim will use the money he’s earning now from MEGA to battle for our file sharing rights in court. He would perhaps pay off the lawyers and do whatever it takes to protect his business. He’s not some kind of Internet rights activist. He would rather use the money to buy another Mercedes.

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        Don’t know about that! He’s got a serious world of real life Copyright butt-hurt to avenge!! I’ld like to see him get the institutional heft with which to do to “Them” as they did onto Him…….

    • comingupforBLAIR

      and as if you fucking know!!! You prattle on like you know the fat cunt. Fuckoff!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/Power2All Power2All

    I do agree on the takedown notice stuff, but tbh, why should a site in FR have a DMCA ?
    DMCA is a American right, and the French aren’t supporting DMCA internationally, so it’s pretty bullcrap.

    • AmericansAreBullies

      DMCA is an American Law

    • bobmail

      DMCA style notices. Under French law, because there is no DMCA, they are effectively directly liable. Accepting and handling DMCA style notices is a good way to stay out of court.

      Their failure to have any way to handle copyright complaints, combined with a high number of infringing files revealed to be on the “new” Mega pretty much makes them a sitting duck.

      Kim must have just shit his (large) pants, as this shows that the major use of his service is once again piracy. It could be said that these search engines could create awareness of infringing use, which totally goes against what Kim is trying to do… his thing wasn’t even up a week and already it’s failing all over the place.

      • MadAsASnake

        You don’t seem to have read the article. The listing site had no takedown system and could be presumed to be affiliated with Mega, which it was not. Mega has a takedown system.

        • bobmail

          Exactly. But the site was listing the content of mega, which effectively made it so that Kim COULD be aware of the content, which would break the barrier he was trying to create. The result? He deleted every file related.

          The search site revealing the files (by indexing publicly) causes problems for Mega. I know Mega doesn’t own the site, I was talking about the french site’s lack of takedown rules, and not Mega’s own rules.

          Yes, I read the article – did you read my reply and actually think about it for a second?

        • MadAsASnake

          That you could be aware of something is not a test that would satisfy any judge pretty much anywhere. As he made clear, the site had been brought to his attention and his staff/lawyers dealt with it.

          What is causing the problems for MEGA is the entirely corrupt and baseless US prosecution of it’s owners, not linking sites.

        • icec0ld

          “Exactly. But the site was listing the content of mega, which effectively made it so that Kim COULD be aware of the content, which would break the barrier he was trying to create. The result? He deleted every file related.”

          Nice try.

          Mega is treated as a entity in and of it’s own right thus, cannot possibly be held culpable for data it doesn’t know about. Even listed on another site Mega won’t know what is in an encrypted file because Mega reach extends no further then it’s borders of influence. Ergo since Mega owns or runs an index site it still doesn’t know what is in those files.

        • Guest321

          Yeah Kim just took the easy way out by deleting all the files indexed on that site including the legal ones. No verification, no nothing. All that talk of encryption and yet it turns out they don’t even need a key to delete anything. In the end its the owners of those files who suffered the loss cuz that was just an indexing site. Nice going Kim, you really are some sort of Internet messiah!

        • Ted Murray

          You fail to understand what encryption does. Encryption secures the contents of a file from unauthorized access. It does not prevent a file from being deleted or even moved.

        • Guest321

          The whole point of encryption was that there would be no way for Kim to be aware of infringing files on his server because without a key he cannot be sure of file contents and thus cannot be expected to delete them. Legally speaking in such a scenario his responsibility would be limited to removing infringing links only when someone sends him a takedown notice complete with links and keys. The links alone would be meaningless.

          This plan was chalked up so that he could protect both himself and the users from copyright vultures. He basically wanted to sidestep any liability. Now it looks like he’s deleting files left and right without verifying or anything. All of a sudden Mega is no longer any different from the hundreds of cyberlockers out there. I hope you get my point.

        • Christopher Kidwell

          Yeah, he did put his foot in it in this case, but remember: The MAFIAA doesn’t play fair, they will set up bogus ‘trap’ websites, inform him of them, and then if he doesn’t do something about them?

          They will wail and scream about that.

      • commenter8

        The site gave users an easy way to report infringement to Mega, the holder of the actual file. As a linking site it had no potentially infringing content itself. So the “no takedown policy” argument is just a huge load of Mega-bullshit.

        • PastTense

          Filestube is an indexing site just like Mega-search.me; it doesn’t host any content; yet it has a takedown policy:
          http://www.filestube.com/dmca.html

          I suggest check the search sites you use; most of them will have takedown policies.

  • Caleb

    So… If I’m reading this correctly, didn’t Mega, in preemptively DMCAing all those files commit fraud? I was under the impression that one can’t A) take down files that aren’t infringing, and B) that you can’t file a DMCA notice on files you don’t have the copyright to, e.g. Faux news can’t DMCA a Disney movie. Given that false DMCA notices are a crime punishable by perjury, didn’t Mega commit a rather long list of crimes?

    • NewWorldStoner

      I’m not sure that DMCA had anything to do with it. It’s probably written into Mega’s ToS somewhere that they reserve the right to remove any and all files if necessary.

    • bobmail

      Mega is not obliged to host anything they think is illegal. The links from that search engine were pretty much all infringing works, so they pre-preemptively took action to remove those files that they were aware might be infringing.

      They over did it, but it’s the only way Kim can keep up the “we don’t know what we host” charade.

      • Anyone

        infringing files are not illegal

      • icec0ld

        You can still find infringing links to Mega.

        If you read the article you’ll find they are only removing links from one particular indexing site.

        So that blows your point out of the water. Read the article next time.

      • Guest

        Really, bobmail? You complain regardless of whether Dotcom actually follows the law. Just like consumers! They’re probably all pirates!

        It’s small wonder nobody agrees with you. You actually think HADOPI’s not repressive enough!

      • NewWorldStoner

        A ridiculous argument. You might as well say that everyone with a computer must be “infringing” since everyone with a computer has the capacity to “infringe”.

        The only charade here is that the copyright cartel along with yourself, believe that information can be owned. Obviously that cannot be true, since not only is it impossible to return information, “copyrighted” information exists within people’s minds and you do not own people.

    • Guest

      well.. this time it will be USERS who sue the crap out of that idiot!
      ..of course if we grow a pair and don’t let em walk all over us

      file deleted by mistake? sue!
      another file? +5000$
      the whole folder abusively deleted? +100000$

  • MadAsASnake

    Given that mega will be under the microscope like no other site, it is not a big surprise. Now if he’s insisting that the linking sites play by the rules, then I’d hope he’ll insist that rightsholders also play by the rules. In respect of takedowns, that means the rightsholders know:

    - that the file contains a representation of their copyright works

    - that the usage can reasonably be explained as infringing

    As other posters have already noted, the takedown requester should be part of the notification

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      Very important! Mega must first be strong enough to hold a safe position with Safe Harbors; and, only then can it take on the known defects of DMCA.

      Mega deserves at least a little time to put its house in order: after all, what are Google and all the other Corporates doing with the False takedown Notice problem but crying “Daddy!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005069441277 Chuck N Dies Last

    Kim Dotcom. Priest in Wolves Clothing..

    • Guest321

      You mean a wolf in priest’s clothing?

  • Guest

    Part of this is being looked at the wrong way. Kim Dotcom removed ALL the MEGA links that were being indexed on their search site. He is no better than Mediafire who attempted to remove themselves from having their files listed on FilesTube ect. Kim even mentioned at the press conference that MEGA was a unique service to Megaupload. He may say that FilesTube is a more legitimate service but some of these search engines have been used against the site owners such as Robert King and his stopfilelockers campaign.

  • MEGAFAIL

    so it was MEGA FAIL afterall

    • Guest

      Why is it MEGA FAIL?

  • KimConz

    Now we all should start sites like mega-search and see what Kim dot Conz does

    Where the f* is the liberty of speach and that freedom you always talked about you fat f** prick?

  • zenkmenk

    Looks like fatboy wants to avoid another raid lol. Go have another cheeseburger fat stuff.

    ur-anon.tk

  • Guest

    If you had these third-party index sites, it would have been another trait of the common file host. You could say that one factor in the destruction of Megaupload was the easy to find infringing files via search sites. If MEGA is doing things differently, could have other decisions been made? In terms of safe-harbour relations, mega-search.me did not have a take down policy. They directed all copyright issues to MEGA as they hosted the files, citing/linking to their copyright page.

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  • ndmushroom

    In other words, your files are perfectly safe unless some search engine you don’t even know about discovers them. That’s really reassuring.

    • Guest

      What? You need the key to unlock the files. Only the user has access to that unless you give it away

      • Guest321

        Unless you haven’t noticed, its all BS. They don’t even verify the files before deleting, what’s the use of those keys? If I upload my holiday video with the name “Avatar.2009.1080p” it will be deleted as soon as some troll sends a takedown notice to Mega.

        • Guest123453

          Then don’t name your file “Avatar 2009 1080p”?
          What a novel idea!

        • Guest321

          You are gonna tell me what I can and cannot name my files? Did MAFIAA copyright the name “Avatar” too? Just in case you haven’t realized that was just an example, what I meant was that if your file names even remotely resemble any copyrighted work, it will be taken down. How fair is that?

      • ndmushroom

        If I want to promote my work and I upload it on Mega, I’m doomed. Either no one picks it up, in which case the file is (probably) safe, either they do, in which case some search engines start indexing it without me even knowing about it, MEGA decides those search engines are bad and deletes my (perfectly legitimate) file.

        Have you even read the article?

    • Guest321

      It was the same drama back in the hotfile days, nothing has changed. Hotfile did not allow users to search for private files and yet those pesky search engines could somehow find links you never shared. Thousands of my fully legal backup files were deleted over the course of a week thanks to automated DMCA.

      • ScrewEwe2

        That’s a good reason not to use the “cloud” as a means for backing up personal files or any type of files. You have to be pro-active about backing up, and never trust an outside service or entity to store any of your data for you.

  • EmirSc

    MEGA-fail

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  • tiger97a

    THEY have whooped and broke him, he now is their straw puppet and will sell you out now so be warned

  • http://twitter.com/quietobserving Andrei

    No, I won’t be using my Mega account anymore after this. I too lost access to a few files. Luckily I was in testing stages for using Mega as a secure collaboration tool.

    Obviously after this fiasco this will not happen.

  • PirateSoldier

    Get that fat bastard dotcon to f**k. Pirates of the caribbean will hopefully put him out of business if they go ahead with the warez kind of site while the rest of us will be too busy laughing at the yanks while dotcon quietly disappears. He’s had his 15 minutes

    • ScrewEwe2

      “f**k.”? fork?

  • quawonk

    Why is he cooperating with the corporate fascists? He’s supposed to be this big hero/rebel. Grow a pair and do the Pirate Bay thing. Give the MAFIAA the finger and say I ain’t cooperating. You fucked me last time, now I’m gonna fuck you.

    • NewWorldStoner

      I agree, the problem is that he is in it solely for profit.

      One way he could fuck them back, for free, with no legal repercussions, would be to simply release the source code to Mega or otherwise decentralize it in some way.

      The fact he hasn’t done this proves my point about him being in it solely for profit and that he doesn’t actually give a fuck about internet freedom as has claimed.

      • Guest321

        Source code to Mega would be useless. You don’t think anyone can get a file sharing script running on a server? We already have plenty of cyberlockers. It ain’t rocket science. Funding for thousands of servers is usually the problem. Besides a centralized system will always have this sort of headache, so why bother?

        • NewWorldStoner

          There’s no such thing as useless source code, someone will find a use for it no matter how many bugs or how pointless it seems.

          There would be no need to fund thousands of servers if it were decentralized. Similar to Bittorrent, there would be no single point of failure, whether technical or legal. Therefore to get a file removed you would need to block the protocol at ISP level, which would be more or less impossible.

    • Guest

      “Maybe the Feds have gotten to him”. Maybe?

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.ogier1 Andrew Ogier

    I guess having his home raided by SWAT scared the piss out of Dotcom, and he’s scared as hell of being extradited to the US, so he’s making damn sure nothing even remotely offensive can be linked to him personally in any way, shape or form until this whole thing blows over…sacrificing his own integrity and ideals in the process.

    Lost interest in Mega now. It’s worse than Google for taking action with takedown requests already, and is self censoring its own files now??? I give it 6 months before the Mega as we know it either dies a death, or gets retooled into a completely legal, 100% safe locker for verified files only.

    • Liam.Jh

      You assume he had any integrity in the first place. He has a history of throwing others in front of the zombies.

  • Guest

    What if the “search engine” is in a country that does not require takedowns etc?

    I think KDC used his hype to setup a storage service and doesn’t give a shit about actual freedoms (not piracy), just money.

    • Guest

      It does not matter if the country does not require takedowns. It is his service and the links ultimately lead back to his site. As for safe-harbours, the users are liable for their actions. Copyright trolls have ignored this on many occasions. Appear reasonably respectable or not or let the trolls cheat their way in. Which is it?

  • Ivi

    I think this was the best example how DMCA can be misused when allowed to be automatized. So as I already wrote, person who give DMCA must prove that (s)he is a human. And if some entity want to use automatized DMCA, then it should provide a deposit, that will be used for first false positive DMCA as compensation to owner. After each false-positive, the entity should be blocked, until again deposit is provided. A neutral person (not judge) can decide who is right if owner claims his own “creation”/copyright. This will stop copyright onwers to misuse search functionalities of other sites.

    • Samuel

      The DMCA can be misused but apparently it was not the case here.

  • Rekrul

    Two questions come to mind;

    1. First of all, why is it Mega’s responsibility to police other sites? So what if they don’t have a takedown procedure? It should be the rightsholders that go after them, not some completely unrelated company. I guess common sense has no place in the equation when copyright is involved.

    2. Since Mega will take down/lock any content on a “rogue” site, does that mean that I can get any content I want taken down, just by posting a link to it? That’s pretty ripe for abuse.

    • Guest

      MEGA has a no copyright policy. The links end up leading back to their site. Safe harbours? Not according to the copyright trolls

  • p5

    I don’t understand why an indexing service needs a takedown procedure. If someone spots a supposedly infringing file, the notices should be directed to the hoster, MEGA in this case, since… well, they are they ones who actually have the file on their servers. Or am I missing something?

  • Violated0

    Firstly, it didn’t have its own takedown procedure but simply linked to Mega’s.

    I am still not aware of any law that states that a search engine that hosts no copyrighted material has to remove links. This is yet more social attempts to try to criminalize lawful links in the minds of the weak.

    Still a take-down policy is the level of fairness that both sides these days have come to accept. Mega should say in their terms and conditions that they welcome others indexing their service, to make media searching easier, but they do so fully independently, with no help from Mega, and they must support a functional take-down policy.

    And on top of that the site used Mega’s logo as well as a similar design which may lead the public to think that it was affiliated with Mega.

    A valid complaint and yes mega-search should make clear that they are not affiliated with Mega. At least he themed this trademark infringement when aiming for copyright infringement would be a bizarre twist.

  • KrakOrJak

    I have a question… What the heck is the purpose of having a secret key to protect your files if any site index like FilesTube can get a link with the decryption key from Mega???

    I don’t get it. Or maybe I’m just dense.

    Does this mean that I have to pre-encrypt all my files with a local symetrical cipher before I upload them to Mega for storage????

    • Anyone

      FilesTube doesn’t get the key from Mega, they get the key from people that share their files with their key
      Mega cannot be searched, FilesTube searches other sites where people post their files and indexes those

      • KrakOrJak

        OK. That makes more sense. Thanx for the clarification.

    • animality

      o.O that’s a bigass arrow, man!

  • steve

    Asleep my ass…

    • ScrewEwe2

      Probably having a little midnight snack. Or snatch.

  • Andrew me

    I think that mega have already let their millions of users know that even with the security of having encryption you can still lose your files for no reason at all at the whim of the site and with nothing but a very weak apology. seriously this is not something that bodes well for mega.

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  • Anon

    So your all complainiing that mega and every other cyberlocker is doing wrong, yet i fail to see where your cyberlocker is that is doing so awesome in todays world? I mean your all saying YOU know how to run a cyberlocker and that YOU and YOUR staff would never make a mistake even when other people are seemingly making it harder for you to survive by indexing any link that is added to there site. As said in the story there was no DMCA request forms it was all left to Mega, so your saying Mega should shift though every link and see whats real and whats fake even though anyone can upload a file with a false name? Your all having a laugh!

    Was it wrong that “some” legit files got blocked? Sure, but its the users respectability to check the site they a linking it on, and if they are hosting links to illigal content then its there own fault sorry you can not go around blaming the lockers for everything just because “you” dont like it users need to take responsibility and stop blaming others.

    • Anyone

      Cyberlockers would run fine if the MAFIAA would just back up and stop demanding powers to censor the net

      sadly, because of the MAFIAA bullies and no legal protection from them they have to censor fully legal content

    • ScrewEwe2

      Anything you say Kim.

      • ScrewEwe2

        My response was to the first Guest, not the Guest that was replying to Guest. In case anyone Guest wrongly.

        • ScrewEwe2

          Too many Guest’s for me, I’m outta here.

          Later

        • ScrewEwe2

          When i first replied, the post’s were tagged as being from “Guest”. Disqus problems?

        • Guest321

          Yeah Disqus loves us Guests.

    • nono

      No, we’re complaining that Mega’s marketing is mostly based on Big Kim playing the Internet’s Robin Hood on twitter while his actions are that of any businessman trying to get his new business up and running: he doesn’t care about his users or people’s rights, all he cares about is going back to making big bucks and get his oversized lifestyle back.

  • ScrewEwe2
  • Boltie

    I don’t understand. It was indexing, what’s wrong with that? It was also in another country. On top of this, why is it Mega’s job to police the people linking to his site??? So what if it looked similar, lots of things look similar but aren’t a rip off. Mega should have left it, it’s not their problem.

  • Big K

    Did anyone told that guy that DMCA law has no effect outside of US? There is popular belief that some corporations have right to take down any content they pull finger at, but that bullshit. They have no right in EU, France included, but to take every single link to court and ask it to order removal.

    I understand that Kim.com has enought of his own problems, but he really shouldn’t take customer as hostage to force Americal law on French search engine…

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  • Byte Master

    Finally the truth comes out:

    RMega -rf

    The “you better hope your files don’t get indexed by a site we don’t like” company”

    RMega -rf is an equal opportunities hoster. We delete files regardless of their legal status.

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  • http://twitter.com/MidoThePirate Ahmed Omar

    Dotcom you deceived us :( …and i don’t like your new Mega ..and i won’t use it …and i don’t believe that new Mega have a large amount of users ..it sucks and it’s not like megaupload ….we can easily do without it …so stop disturbing us with your news

  • Gmail

    Called this months ago…

  • Ray Carroll

    Looks like all of that “Dotcom Bolster” was just a show. Is this kind of like the “Great Grand Opening” to a new restaurant in town, but when you get there you find the food really sucks, the service is terrible and everything is overpriced.

  • Andrew Lee

    So if you want someones link took down from Mega all you have to do is submit it to a so called rouge mega indexing site.

    Honestly I was really hoping it was not Mega doing it unprovoked. :(

    • Internet_Zen_Master

      I was also hoping that it wasn’t MEGA be proactive, but at the same time I can understand their reasoning. The last thing that they need is for their company to get crucified by the U.S. (and you know how bad the DOJ wants to do that) because people are uploading copyrighted material and sharing it left and right.

      In short, if you’re gonna upload copyrighted files to MEGA and you absolutely have to share them, be discreet about it (for now at least).

  • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

    Kim, I am disappoint.

    The fact that non-infringing files were also taken down for no good reason at all, pisses me off.

    Bye bye Mega.

  • youcanalwaysgetwhatyawant

    Right thing to do. Any moron with access could file takedown requests using the site as a tool. If you know where to look you can get what you want. Ve have veys of making you talk JYAH

  • dlovin123

    Wtf dotcom? When did you want to police the internet? Why the fuck would you care about any indexing site? I hate this guy more and more every article.

  • cupid stunt

    whilst he was asleep it seems more than one dick was up his arse

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  • ScrewEwe2

    Mega-Search.me. is back up and working again, but not much there.

    • Guest

      Mega deletion.

  • BallBiter

    “We have had some emails from rightsholders that said ‘these guys
    don’t even have a takedown procedure, what are you doing about that?’
    When we are faced with a situation like this, then we have to act,”
    Dotcom told us.

    Added to that, dozens of news sites that reported on the “infringing” nature of the site.

    “If it’s right in front of our face and it’s put to us so
    prominently, we have to do something about it. Then we are in a state of
    knowledge and legally required to act.””

    Your response should have been, well they are not bothering us, and if u write takedown shit to us, well we did what you wanted last time so fuck off. You don’t have to act, you can tell them teh above as its true.

    If dozens of sites said that jesus returned yesterday or world war 3 started, do you have to act like it did or can you simply go about your business or was i mistaken and it is against the law to not read online articles and maybe newspaper articles?

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  • KhalidX

    Rename your files stay away from search engines . Forum Im on we use mega like we did streamload. email the links , no search engines. private forum. no new membrs . we good

  • Whatever

    “We have had some emails from rightsholders that said ‘these guys don’t even have a takedown procedure, what are you doing about that?’”

    Big mouth at a press conference but panic over a link site ?

    It doesn’t matter if they meant Mega itself or were referring to this site. If an imaginary property holder wants to take action about something they should do their homework first. What Kim Dotcom should have said is: “Wrong party and not my problem” but instead he is doing the MAFIAA’s dirty work before even being asked too. I guess this was less than a week for the users and now an eternity for the MAFIAA. The fight of Kim Dotcom is over. People in worse positions took longer to fold to Hollywood.

    Is this the fastest treason ever ? I guess that is what he meant by “let us all be friends” to Hollywood. He should worry bad press that keep customers away instead. Kim says “You’re files are safe with us unless we need good MAFIAA press”. But we already knew that. The thing was that the enemy of your enemy is your friend for as long as it lasts.

    Mega can be kept very busy by posting links to files all over the place and at the same time the MAFIAA hunting for ghosts.

    BTW: Although technically (with the API and all) it sounded good, Mega just lost some potential future customers as Mega can now be dropped of the list as a possible cheap “reliable” alternative.

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  • Guest

    it’s mega-search (dot) me

    not search-mega (dot) me

    right?!

  • Guest

    “Kim Dotcom has admitted that Mega is behind the shut down of the French-based indexing site Search-Mega(dot)me”

    Mega-Search*

  • Highboi

    Maybe he is doing this until mega box is launched putting them out of business

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  • Filino Rupro

    Kim Dotcom it’s after all a capitalist! He don’t cares much about internet freedom, but more in earning some cash!

  • KimDotcomSucks

    Hypocrite.
    Of course, what a surprise! He made his fortune claiming to be “a pirate”.

    When will people realize Kim Dotcom is just a fat, selfish asshole who runs a greedy corporation just like the corporations he always whines about.

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  • Indiagrt

    Mega-Search.me account suspended ………….

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