Kim Dotcom Will Go to the US in Exchange for Legal Funds

Ernesto
July 10, 2012
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Just hours after his extradition hearing was delayed until 2013, Kim Dotcom is offering the US Government an unusual deal. Growing tired of the “dirty games” being played, Megaupload’s founder says he will voluntarily go to the US if he and his colleagues are promised a fair trial and money to pay their legal and living expenses.

mega kim Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom has always been confident that he and his fellow defendants will walk free, if they are given a fair trial.

However, that last part is something he and his lawyers believe the US is trying to prevent. In recent months Megaupload’s legal team has tried to get funds unfrozen so that legal bills can be paid, but thus far without success.

Yesterday, there was yet more bad news when the extradition hearing was delayed from next month till March 2012. This means that even more legal costs will have to be paid in between.

“I have accumulated millions of dollars in legal bills and I haven’t been able to pay a single cent. They just want to hang me out to dry and wait until there is no support left,” Dotcom told NZHerald in a comment.

In an ultimate attempt to speed things up, Dotcom is offering the US Government a remarkable deal. He and his fellow defendants will go to the US voluntarily in exchange for a fair trial, legal funds, and money to pay for personal expenses.

“Hey DOJ, we will go to the US. No need for extradition. We want bail, funds unfrozen for lawyers & living expenses,” Dotcom posted on Twitter.

While this would certainly save the US considerable legal costs, Megaupload’s founder doesn’t think they will respond positively to the offer. By limiting defense funds the US is creating an advantage it doesn’t want to give up.

“They will never agree to this and that is because they can’t win this case and they know that already,” he says.

According to Megaupload’s founder the entire investigation is a gift to Hollywood. Last week Dotcom revealed that Vice President Biden was the person who ordered the Megaupload shutdown and in the coming days he will release a song with a special message for President Obama.

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Fair trial? Is he forgetting who is he trying to make a deal with?
- FrostyC
  
  Exactly, he’ll get his money & be kept in Guantanamo Bay awaiting his trial; scheduled for 2055.
  - 2055 is optomistic
    
    One does not simply avoid indefinite detention.
    - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
      
      Actually, many judges have been getting on the Feds cases about the indefinite detention of the Guantanamo Bay people, saying that they should have been given a CIVILIAN (not military) trial by now.
      
      Even if the Supreme Court keeps on ducking out on this issue, there comes a time when the weight of previous rulings becomes so great that it equates to a Supreme Court ruling in absentia.
  - Guest
    
    You should never try to make a deal with the devil. There is no justice
    in the US anymore and this is no longer the land of the frees.
    
    What we have to do is do what the zionists did to Arafat to Joe Biden
    and Chris dodd. Hopefully that will scare the rest of the entertainment
    corporate parasites forced to chose between their business or their
    lives. This will probably solve a lot of problems. Now may be Kim has a
    brillant idea that I can not see.
- kwame
  
  This is about US media coverage and the US presidential election. There’s still time for President Obama to dump Joe Biden as his running mate in November.
  - Guest
    
    I doubt he will do this unless something makes him decide to ditch him. Perhaps if evidence were to come forward and shown to the public that shows Biden in a very bad light he may think that with public opinion against Biden then it wont look good for himself to be seen alongside him and then ditch him.
    - GuySmiley
      
      If anyone thinks Obama is gonna get voted in again I want some of what they are smoking. Of his 500+ campaign promises only 3 have been met and even those are partially met.
  - Anyone
    
    Biden is his “common man”, I doubt he can just ditch him
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay
  
  “Don’t you know who I am?”
  “I’m Kim Dotcom, bitch!”
  - Guest
    
    and that would make you a pimp.
- Sagada
  
  Kim Dotcom should just ask for financial support in this case, I’m sure the EEF and some private people will spend some funds inorder to prevent injustice and the corruption spreading from MPAA and consirators
BLA

”
extradition hearing was delayed from next month till March 2012.”

2013
- Anyone
  
  that’s the best use of a time machine
- Mark
  
  always get someone who points out a mistake such as this….how sad….
  - http://profiles.google.com/daniel142005 Daniel Weisinger
    
    It’s a mistake that needs to be corrected, because some may come from search engines and not realize how old the article is, it’s just confusing and a simple fix. He wasn’t rude about it, so there’s nothing wrong with it…
Omegaspaz

March 2012 lol
- SpellingNazi
  
  such a gife to be given
- Decimus
  
  I saw that, too. Strange error to make.
bno112300

anyone else think that, if kim is released on the condition that he never creates/owns/operates, a company again, he will either get someone to run a business for him in the exact same way as mega (with the name changed from Mega inc. to Mega Legal inc.)?
it seems like something he would do.
John Space

THis guy’s mad. He’s going to be arrested once he sets foot on the USA.
- http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP
  
  exactly my thinking too
- Blazeflack
  
  It does seem kind of risky but I understand where he’s coming from. As mentioned, they will probably try to let his funds dry up so he has no way of mounting a proper defence.
  - Guest
    
    Then its time for the people to set up a support/fight fund for him.
    - Anyone
      
      that’s pointless
      
      if he has his funds unfrozen he has enough to defend himself
      if he his funds remain frozen the raised funds would be frozen as well
    - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
      
      Actually, Anyone, the raised funds can only be frozen if they have been gotten in connection DIRECTLY with MegaUpload. They cannot be frozen if they are specifically raised for his legal defense.
      
      That is settled law all around the world, including in the United States.
    - Andrew me
      
      pay the funds collected directly into the lawyers account and the DOJ cannot touch them.
    - Anyone
      
      Christopher: you say that as if the US law matters
      they’ll just do whatever they want
Elasbett3

if he get in the US he will never leave it , except to some terrorist prison in Guantanamo or so , This should be a big error ,The case is corrupted from the start what a fair trial he can expect ,
Sorry Kim but this proposal sound really retarded
- http://profiles.google.com/daniel142005 Daniel Weisinger
  
  The US government already has it’s tail between it’s legs. People are now aware of what happened. I don’t think it would hold up if they attempted to put him in Guantanamo. Not to mention, as far as I can tell Anonymous is on Kim’s side… it’s pretty obvious the gov is a bit scared of them.
Guestfsafsd87

Liar! His own lawyers VOLUNTARILY agreed to delay the trial back to 2013. How can he complain about that?
- nom
  
  With the choices:
  1) Try to win a trial without access to the evidence prooving you innocent.
  2) Delay the trial for 9 months in order for the US to return the evidence. (something that should take < 3 days top)
  
  Then yes, he agreed to delay the trial because he had no choice and he have every right to complain about it.
- MadAsASnake
  
  Inevitable due to the other cases that must proceed first. The other option was to attend an extradition hearing where it is accepted that it is a rubber stamp operation.
Violated0

I have been pondering this statement ever since I read it and I have been wondering if Kim Dotcom is trying to offer them something they can’t accept.

Money is an obviously sticking point when so far the DoJ and FBI have been fighting hard to ensure Kim does not get even 1 cent more than needed. It can also be true to say that the DoJ may have a better case if Mega cannot afford good lawyers.

Well with that said I doubt his lawyers are unhappy to work without pay when it seems highly likely they would get paid one day. Also this will make a huge public case and some lawyers could well become more famous due to this case allowing them to command higher fees in the future. In that regard his lawyers may well be pushing towards the big trial.

I am also wondering if some other big news is soon to follow like many charges being dropped when this “wanting to face Justice” gives him a better future reputation.

There is indeed much to consider here but for now the offer is out there and we will await their official response. I think Kim Dotcom is right though when due to the DoJ’s weak position they may only want him there as a broke guy who cant have good lawyers to defend himself.
- Hephaestus42
  
  All he needs to do to make a ton of money is partner with Woz and have him run MegaBox until all this is over.
  Wouldn’t that cause the people at the DOJ some serious heartburn, and maybe a couple brain aneurysms.
  - Guest
    
    Me thinks that if this does happen and Megabox was ran from the US then the MAFFIA and no doubt the Feds will be stampeding the doors down and get this shut down. Yes, it would be a great idea if Woz was a partner but Megabox will have to be based a very long reach away from the arm of the US and finding that place will no doubt be hard.
    - Guest
      
      The Megabox concept is supposedly content / consent based. If it is only retailing & distributing recordings which it has the legal rights to do so then what possible grounds would anyone have for shutting it down?
    - Anyone
      
      he is actively looking for bandwidth and payment providers outside the US according to his twitter, I’m sure there are many companies eager to get his business
    - Arkzad
      
      It will fail. Not because they shut it down, because all *relevant* musicians you want to download are already on iTunes and/or Amazon.
      
      There is no shortage of upload sites. With services wanting $50 per album to upload your music to +20 shops, even making a website and everything for you.
      So you can completely concentrate becoming the next Katy Perry.
      
      If there is a revolutionary new way to *pay* for music, and its not like streaming, then you will still have to deal with the labels. Simfy need 5 years+ to get them on board with 20-50% of their backlog. I guess any project attached to Kim gets 0% to zilch.
    - Cam
      
      What grounds did they have for shutting down MegaUpload? Exactly. They’ll use the same bullshit excuses to cut down MegaBox before it has a chance.
Anonymous

if they actually agree to this, the DoJ will back track on the deal, as soon as Kim got off the plane. he would not be allowed to do anything, go anywhere or have anything that would in anyway aid him gather evidence for his defense and locked up indefinitely. trying to fight against them is going to be real hard and he could still lose (depending on the threats/incentives issued to the NZ courts and government) but at least he is on more neutral ground atm. trying to do so when all advantages are with the accusing side, no hope in hell! in my opinion, for what it’s worth (not a lot!), he is out of his fucking tree!! mind you, i suppose he would have Manning for company after the US government have finished railroading him as well
Guest

Time to set up a support fund for him but then the US will probably do everything to shut it down.
- we are next
  
  The support we need to give, is for the legal costs to be burdened not by Kim Dot Com but by the attacking parties.
  
  They will, and are trying to destroy Dot Com slowly, by removing all cash and making sure the legal defense is as expensive as it can be.
  They will also try to make recovering legal costs and damages impossible.
  This is the support we should give.
  Don’t allow these cunts to destroy people. Today it is Kim Dot Com, tomorrow it could be you, it really could.
  How much would a corporation have to spend to destroy you ?
  How easy would a reason exist for them to target you ?
  
  This line of attack on us is dangerous for us all.
  - FreeInternet777
    
    Yes, the world is on a very slippery slope
    - Guest
      
      Why the FUCK haven’t the fbi raided the owners of Google and Youtube yet. This is a joke. They do exactly the same thing. Just search for any song on google and see if it doesn’t automatically direct you to youtube where u can get it for free. Fuck google because they are legal while mega upload is illegal. One has a untouchable public image the other doesnt…
      
      And is Media fire now illegal? what about the other 50 well know cyber lockers???
      
      Are cyber lockers now illegal? im Fucking sick of this bullshit,
      We are waiting to find out if megaupload is legal or illegal in the eyes of the courts. This could take years. Meanwhile tons of other file hosting sites operate and they are now forced to restrict their useful functions in the fear of becoming the next target…
      
      So basicly MEDIAFIRE IS A LEGAL WEBSITE UNTILL THEY GET SUED OR THE FBI (of america not the world) KIDNAPS THE OWNERS and imprisons them…
http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

Bad move, he shouldn’t set foot in the US! He’s gonna get guantanomed or killed immediately..
- Cam
  
  Yeah, it wouldn’t be beyond the “MAFIAA” (all too appropriate of a name) to hire a hitman to conveniently take him out and make it look like an unfortunate accident
- Fu
  
  Sure like you know how thing work. Lets just guess shall we.
- http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
  
  They can try that, Orfeas, but that isn’t going to go over well with the American people when they hear that this man has disappeared or been killed.
  
  In fact, he is way too high profile for them to ‘disappear’ him with any success at all. Only reason that has worked in other situations is because the person in question wasn’t ‘well known’ on an international level.
  - http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis
    
    Well, although he was well-known, they did ‘steal’ his servers, money and business, without warrants or any legal procedure.
    What’s to stop them from doing anything more than that, if there is no proof left behind?
Guest

NO WAY will the US agree to this. There is no way that they will unfreeze the necessary funds to be used for his lawyers and defence. Being as Kim Dotcom has now made this other the US will refuse because they now no that he can’t cope and if he can’t cope now with the funds then he will be even worse by March 2013 comes around so the US will now drag this out knowing that they have Kim Dotcom right where they want him in hanging him out to dry. If however the US do somehow make a deal with him you can sure bet that once he stops of the plane the FEDS and army will swoop in and arrest him on the tarmac where the plane has stood and he will surely be whisked away and locked up in prison until the court case and you can sure bet that the US will give delay and delay before the court case.
puddipuddi

You may think he’s gone mad, but don’t you think it would make sense to fight now while he has good lawyers, rather than wait until next year to possible get extradited and have no lawyers? It seems like his only option, I don’t know how long his lawyers are gonna stick around when they aren’t getting paid.
- Violated0
  
  I expect they would stick around until they know getting paid is unlikely,
- Arkzad
  
  I think the big parts of the defense are already in place. Its not likely that 100s of lawyers have to do heaving lifting until 2013. They take other cases, and simply wait.
Jorge_C

could this just be a well played publicity stunt by Dotcom or his defense team to dry and drudge up support for him? When you word a deal like that (which the US will obviously refuse) it makes people think; what reason would that have to deny what they say they want?

It exposes what tactics he’s been put under and puts the DoJ in the impossible position of saying No without looking so nefarious.
- Guest
  
  Think the DOJ has already fucked up enough regarding this case already.
DutchGuest

It’s a clever trap for the DoJ/FBI.
If they say no, Kim’s legal team can argue with the NZ authorities that they even tried to negotiate voluntary surrender to U.S. authorities but they refused, even though the terms were ‘very reasonable’.
What judge wouldn’t agree with that ?
And if they say yes, they lose as well.
It’s rather brilliant if you ask me, seeing as there is no way in hell the U.S. would agree to this, even though it is completely reasonable.
- Violated0
  
  I would have expected this statement was passed through his lawyers and was much discussed beforehand. Who knows though when Kim is a smart person anyway,
  
  I just hope he keeps in mind that such trials may go on for 4 to 6 years involving appeal after appeal no matter what side wins. So he needs to balance his resources for a very long fight.
  
  In that regard obtaining funding for great lawyers is not such a bad plan.
  - Cam
    
    Someone should start a Kickstarter or Indiegogo for his legal fees. If a bunch of people are willing to pay $680k for Karen the bus monitor, how much money could Kim Dotcom make with a campaign like that?
    - Sjkhasfdasdf
      
      One would have to be incredibly gullible to even consider funding Dotcom’s legal defense. It’s a stupid idea and just isn’t going to happen.
  - Rabbit80
    
    Can the feds appeal if he is found not guilty? Surely that would be double jeopardy as this is a criminal case!
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http://www.facebook.com/people/Brent-Alan-Newton/1355656399 Brent Alan Newton

He has no other options. The US will wait him out. They will keep this in court till 2030 if they have to. They have unlimited funds and they know he doesn’t. Esp. since they won’t let him have access to his funds. The US will win. Not because they are right, but because the same ppl that own the US own the world. He may not see a day in jail, but he will be utterly destroyed when this is over.
- Guest
  
  The US does NOT own the world although it may think it has the god dam right to own it. If just all the people in the world who think that the US is wrong in this case were to donate just a couple of dollars or so to a support/fight fund for Kim Dotcom then it can’t get any worse.
  - Guest2
    
    On that note:
    
    A) Why hasn’t someone already started some sort of online fundraiser to help support Kim?
    
    B) If someone tried that, how could we make sure the money actually reached Kim rather than being frozen like the rest of his money or being blocked due to the fundraiser and/or any payment processors involved being bullied by the MPAA/DOJ?
    - Guest
      
      Perhaps his legal team were to set up an account so that the funds would go straight into it to help pay for their costs and to help support Kim etc. If the US did anything to prevent/stop it then they will no doubt be seen as the bullies or worse that they are. The legal team for his defence will have to look into the legalities of such a fund etc. and do what they can legally to prevent action from the US etc. in getting it stopped etc. before they set up the fund.
    - Krista
      
      I was wondering the same thing. Why hasn’t he/someone started a fundraiser/Kickstarter to pay for his legal fees I’m sure if he/they did they would make up the amount needed in no time.
    - Guest
      
      Because paypal and visa are going to bloc it deuce!
    - Guest
      
      “Because paypal and visa are going to bloc it deuce”
      
      Then don’t use Paypal or Visa.
    - Anyone
      
      here it is from Kim in person: https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/statuses/219656912881467392
      
      He doesn’t need a fundraiser, he has enough funds once they are unfrozen.
      if there is a fundraiser those funds will just be frozen as well
      
      it’s futile in the current situation
    - ScrewEwe2
      
      Kim’s tried fundraising on his own to no avail.
      
      http://instagram.com/p/MjyzCaskcx/
    - Guest
      
      Who fuck is gonna donate their hard earned money to someone like Kim Dotcom? That would be ridiculously foolish.
- Arkzad
  
  This is rather complex. If they are so sure about his “misdeeds” they want a quick trial, because they believe to have the “finishing move”. If they prolong this, it would mean that they haven’t the hard facts they claim to have.
  
  If you look how much scrutiny this case has already been under…it quite looks that they “legally constructed” something that would rather need a long jurisdictional cross-examination. And that means, a very uncertain outcome. They already “fumbled” the ball on two or three occasions. That doesn’t show confidence.
  
  Nothing would blow a huge hole in the content machineries belly than Kim asking for unprecedented damages to his company (and life).
- http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
  
  I doubt they will wait him out. Many judges get angry when those ‘waiting games’ are played with them by the prosecutors, because they feel that prosecutors should have had their ducks in a row before filing charges.
The_seventh_guest

Well done!

Since Mega is not a US corporation, there might not be trial for MU.

As for Kim, he will pay whatever is found as copyright infringement DIRECTLY, not indirectly as the MAFIAA idiots want to.
This will become a Civil Trial, Kim would pay 50k in total and send the DOJ to hell
- http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
  
  Even as a civil trial, the DOJ has absolutely no right to press civil charges against someone outside of the country who has never entered the country in relation to their supposed ‘criminal’ or civil infractions.
Cheers

The answer is simple …

Kim is a big bad ass mutherfucker.

Ok. He cried ONCE in court. NOW he wants to fight!
He’s got balls. I think TF has helped.

http://torrentfreak.com/how-big-music-threatened-startups-and-killed-innovation-120709/

I read the white paper. This is my generation of technology (I’m 50-yo).
I read it and MAN it just PISSED ME OFF! Explains EVERYTHING!

Do It KIM. Grab the Tiger by the tail and make it screech.
(Just look out for the claws and teeth – very sharp)

Put Time on YOUR SIDE. It’s the ONLY way to WIN.

Cheers to you Mate.
- Anon
  
  Grab the tiger by the tail? When this is all over, I want to see Kim wearing the tiger’s testicles on a necklace!!!
- Balls Defrosted
  
  “This…was about killing MegaUpload and creating a chilling effect to freeze the whole file-hosting sector. They achieved that,” Dotcom said. “I don’t think they are prepared for the wave that’s coming to them now.”
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-fIn2QZgg
Anonymous

I’m sure he has the “unofficial” backing of Anonymous.
Should anything happen to Kim while in the US, Anonymous and Kim have collateral in place. :)
nothing new

The big question is — in which court will DotCom’s trial be held?

Northern Virginia, like most copyright cases?

That place has a near-100% conviction rate. Which makes perfect sense, since most people there work for the federal government (or at least know people who do). Also a lot of retired military. I certainly would not feel comfortable going back to my job at the FBI or CIA Headquarters after being on a jury that just acquitted someone. Bad career move, very, very bad.

If DotCom wants to dream, he can insist that his trial be held in a place like
College Station, Texas.
:)
- Guest
  
  They will sure to have the trial (if any) somewhere that will guarantee a success to the US and i hope not.
Sott Net

How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct.
”Mastering others is strength,mastering yourself makes you fearless.”
”It’s not the problems we face that define us,it’s how we choose to handle them.”
PelouzeTF

How can this vaguely be described as a “remarkable deal” ?

The unfreezing of seized assets that only exist as a direct result of massive organized copyright infringement ?

“yes, I knew I was profiting from mass copyright infringement but, can I pay all my bills from the money I earned from it”
- Anyone
  
  shut up, troll
  
  he got the money for providing a service people liked to pay for, that’s how capitalism works
  if you think many or even most of the files on MU were “infringing”, prove it
  - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
    
    He won’t, because the bottom line is that they were or, if they were, Kim and his business could not have known about that.
    
    Bottom line is that filelockers cannot be held responsible for every single file uploaded to them. With BILLIONS of files being uploaded every single day, just impossible for them to monitor all of them.
    
    That is what the DMCA rightly acknowledged and gave them an out for. As long as they remove files when they are informed they are infringing and confirm (yes, they can confirm before removal) that they are infringing, they are golden.
    - Anyone
      
      it’s not only impossible to monitor all the uploaded files in many countries that is also illegal because of privacy laws
- Guest
  
  @PelouzeTF:disqus
  
  >>remarks on deal
  >>asks how deal is remarkable
  
  lol
  
  P.S.
  The copyright infringement was not organized, it was entirely the responsibility of the users, and MU was fully compliant with law. That’s why the US is trying to delay. They fucked up royally, they have no case, and they know it.
  
  What Kim is doing is calling them on their bluff.
Guest

A fair trial? Ah, yes. By the way, they also have a bridge in Brooklyn they’d like to sell to Dotcom.
Alyssa Blindy

I am sure that Dotcom and his lawyers know what they ae doing. I am sure that they have all discussed the pros and cons of this offer, and therefore decided to well, offer it. Dotcom has some good lawyers, and I am sure they know what they are doing. Although, if I were Dotcom, I would ask for a fair trial to occur within the next year, gthe ability to live in a home free without being in jail or any form of detention. Lol. I think this is great.
- Vincent Giannell
  
  I think Dotcom knows something the government are afraid of and will use it against them if they refuse his offer.
Beatles Suck

This is an election year. Biden is behind this. If Biden losses this cases, Obama does not get reelected. The DOJ is simply making a political mockery of the legal system to keep Obama/Biden in office.
- http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
  
  Wrong. At most, Obama will look for someone in the number 2 spot and will still get elected.
  
  None of the Rethuglican/Repukian alternatives are any good and Ron Paul is an insane jackwad from looking at his policies and what he would put into place.
- Darwin
  
  Wow! Did you read the article? Dotcom’s extradition hearing has been postponed to 2013. The election takes place in November 2012. In other words, there’s no way for anyone to lose this case before the election.
  
  First, few in the US are paying attention to the Dotcom extradition hearing. US Presidential elections aren’t decided on such trivial matters. It’s not as if Romney, nor any republican disagrees with prosecuting Dotcom. Prosecuting copyright offenders is not a debated issue in this race.
  
  Second, Dotcom is the one who reported that Joe Biden was behind this extradition attempt. This accusation is absurd. The US Vice President does not have a say in DoJ matters. Regardless, Dotcom is not a reliable source of information. How would he know what’s happening in the DoJ while awaiting his expedition hearing in New Zealand?
  
  Don’t be so gullible and stop believing everything you read.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676827475 Luke Solis

This guy has some balls…. why do i get the feeling he is going to get the best of himself…
Andrew me

This is a stunning move, a little risky but still a stunning move. If they deny his request he can then appeal against the extradition with more ammunition against the DOJ than any person could ever wish for.

If he does get his agreement even an American judge would call out the DOJ for not releasing his data so that he can defend himself.
No judge is going to bat for the gatekeepers if the whole world is watching and scrutinizing every move by both sides.

I believe this is the best political move he could ever have taken and will probably be the point where the DOJ either backs down or shows how stupid they really are.

I hope he has investors moving megabox forward and getting ready to open for business asap, even if it has to be under someone elses name. Imagine of Woz started up the business for him and funded it.

Remember the music industry has pissed of a lot of people, they have destroyed a lot of startups and they have alienated themselves from there members and there customers, who would drop them at the first opportunity. I suspect that there are many many very rich people who would love to get some payback.

All they really need is 20 to 30 of the most famous content creators to join megabox and thousands of others would follow, especially if they were given the opportunity to get out of there contracts and start making reasonable profits from there content.

Loving this situation more and more every day.
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You name

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

The US will through you in jail and deny you exist!
- Guest
  
  That is so true its like in china where those peoplo who think otherwise than goverment or write articles agaist it they go to jail and then they “disappear” for indefinetyle years and if family askes from them goverments says that they dont know any suck persons…
JoeUsuck

Joe Biden is a scumbag.
- Scumbags United
  
  Oh,NO he is NOT!
aadada

I wish Dotcom, good luck!

And off the topic comment: Torrentfreak is blocked in South Korea. I don’t know if it’s country wise ban or our university ban. Seems like they don’t like ‘torrent’ smell. Many many torrent sites and cloud storage sites are off the grid.
I’m on VPN now and thought I would aware public, if they didn’t already know.
Darwin

This is nothing more than a publicity stunt. Only the daft would consider it a bright move. The US will not pay for the legal fee, nor ‘living expenses’ for multimillionaires. Kim Dotcom already knows this obvious fact. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have made this disingenuous offer.

For the record, I’m not siding with the US. Nobody should be extradited for copyright infringement. It’s up to the New Zealand government to DENY the US extradition request. NZ won’t allow US nuclear warships docks at NZ harbors so the NZ government should have the balls to deny extradition based on the merits of the US case against Dotcom.

If NZ cowers, then that’s a problem with the NZ government and likewise governments everywhere. The US WILL try to extradite operators of file dropping websites. That shouldn’t surprise anyone. It is up to each respective country’s government to deny these ridiculous extraditions. Otherwise, the NZ court has forsaken its citizens by handing over NZ sovereignty to the US. Next, China may wish to extradite individuals who operate forums that allow disparaging remarks against the Chinese government. Certain Islamic regimes may extradite those who violate Sharia Law….so on and so forth.

Resorting to cheap publicity stunts only angers the courts and distracts the general public from the ambush that lies ahead.
- Guest
  
  It isn’t a publicity stunt. It’s an attack against the prosecution.
  
  Either they can agree and let Dotcom come to the US, unfreeze his funds, and watch as his lawyers demolish them in court… Or they can refuse Dotcom’s offer and discredit their own case against him even further.
  
  He’s trapped them in a lose-lose situation.
  - Darwin
    
    It is a publicity stunt and a dumb one at that. The US might have agreed to unfreeze some of his funds for his defense, but the devil is in the details. Notice that Dotcom also requests an undisclosed amount for ‘living expenses’. For him to require ‘living expenses’, Dotcom would have to afford bail or have bail waived. That’s laughable considering the severity of the charges. Dotcom’s lawyers never tried to privately negotiate with the DoJ. If they were serious, then the announcement would not have immediately followed ‘hours after his extradition hearing’.
    
    So you’re incorrect. Dotcom hasn’t discredited anyone but himself. Even a casual observer can see through his ruse. Further, I would say that he increased the likelihood of losing his extradition case by accusing the US of ‘dirty games’. While that might play well to many on this forum, it will not bode well with the NZ court. If they rule against US extradition, then the judge has been put in the position of appearing to agree with Dotcom’s accusation. Denying the US extradition request should be his only consideration.
    
    Despite Dotcom’s enormous stupidity, I hope that the NZ court denies the US request. That being said, Dotcom has made such an outcome more difficult and potentially embarrassing for the NZ judicial system. In other words, he’s stepped into his own loudmouth trap.
    - FinalApokylypse
      
      While I do agree there may be a publicity stunt at play here I disagree with the reasons behind it. Accusing the US of ‘dirty games’ shouldn’t have any bearing on the NZ court whatsoever and if the NZ court chooses not to allow extradition then it does have the ability to say why it chose that decision.. so if they do not agree with KDC on that issue they can show that they don’t..
    - Guest
      
      *Stares in disbelief at Darwin’s stupidity*
    - Anyone
      
      all he asks for is unfreezing his funds
      he doesn’t ask them to pay for his living expenses, he simply asks for his money back so he can pay that for himself
- Tommyd
  
  I hope they get that thief over here and lock his fat ass up.
MO

I don’t think this is a publicity stunt. First of all, KDC is asking that his (Megaupload’s) funds be released from the US federal freeze. This happens all the time. In the Noriega case (there the US didn’t bother to wait for extradition) funds were unfrozen to pay for Noriega’s attorneys. It is also common to work out a bond in advance of voluntary surrender. The government cannot back off of such agreements without new charges being brought and this would be seen as bad faith. One serious question is whether there is an indictment (it may be sealed) or whether there is only a criminal information filed. If there is an indictment the case has to be heard in the district where the grand jury that returned it was sitting. If it’s a criminal information there is more flexibility.

But I can’t see the USG agreeing to this. In their view, KDC is a criminal and that’s that. They will not even make arrangements for the return of non-infringing content owned by 3rd parties. This is not unprecedented in the US but unusual. For example, in a drug bust, if a car is used to deliver drugs it is seized. If GMAC or whoever holds a lien, or if the car is leased, it is release to the lienholder or lessor in relatively short order (no more than 30 days-the DEA does not want to pay for storing vehicles longer than that). That is why it is odd for the USG not to return property to innocent 3rd parties. They have to view the whole site as illegal or facilitation illegality.

USG does not want private attorneys or firms handling the defense. They know that evens the odds substantially. Otherwise KDC gets court-appointed counsel under the Criminal Justice Act and there are few attorneys who will be able to mount the kind of defense that is needed in this case by funding it themselves, since CJA payments are not made until the end of the case. And good luck getting a judge to approve $100k (which is public money, btw) or more to fund a forensic firm to look at the files, to create a database, to extract exculpatory material, etc. Ain’t going to happen.
- Darwin
  
  Yes, it is a publicity stunt. Notice that Dotcom is also asking for an undisclosed amount of legal expenses and presumably bail money (before bail has been set). That’s obviously a deal breaker before one even addresses the legal fees. If the his offer was genuine, then his lawyers would have negotiated with the DoJ privately.
  
  For a just trial to occur, there must be just laws. You seem to believe that US copyright related laws are justly written. I believe these laws require defendants to prove their innocence. What jury on earth has the ability to sort through tens of thousands of documents, records, bank statements and DCMI claims? The grand jury indictment alone is 5 counts (72 pages alone) including conspiracy to commit racketeering, money laundering, and 3 copyright violations.
  
  Regardless, Dotcom knew he was breaking US law. That’s why he was based out of NZ. It’s my firm belief that Dotcom operated under the jurisdiction of NZ law. Ergo, it is New Zealand’s duty to deny US extradition since these supposed crimes took place in NZ. New Zealand should request all US evidence against dotcom, then decide whether or not to prosecute him based upon any violation of NZ laws. While the US evidence may be relevant, US law is definitely not.
  
  Again, NZ should DENY extradition or simply hand over its sovereignty to the US. Despite Dotcom’s pony show, that’s the real issue. If NZ succumbs to US extradition requests, then will it also extradite NZ citizens who violate US copyright law by ‘illegally’ downloading copyright material? NZ voters may wish to express their views to their lawmakers before the next hearing takes place. The same goes for every country facing US extradition requests for similar copyright violators. It’s a slippery slope and the ride has just started.
  - Guest
    
    Several points.
    
    1. There’s no evidence that Dotcom knew his was breaking any law(MU complied with the DMCA and partnered with rights holders, for fuck’s sake)
    2. There’s no evidence he moved to New Zealand to hide from the US.
    
    3. He wasn’t actually breaking any law.
    
    What the fuck is your deal with him, BTW? You seem to be assassinating his character while simultaneously arguing that he should win.
    - Darwin
      
      Of course, Dotcom knew he was breaking US law. That doesn’t matter since he was operating under NZ jurisdiction. I never said that he was ‘hiding’ from the US.
      
      You guys really are clueless when it comes to business practices. That’s why you view my comments as an attack against Dotcom. Business often locate their base of operations in countries with laws conducive to their business practices knowing that what they are doing is illegal in other countries.
      
      Point being that Dotcom was operating under NZ jurisdiction, thus should NOT be extradited to the US. Next time read the entire post before replying.
  - Rekrul
    
    Regardless, Dotcom knew he was breaking US law. That’s why he was based out of NZ.
    
    So you’re saying that every legal company in the world is based in the US, and only illegal businesses are based elsewhere?
    - Darwin
      
      I said that Dotcom was breaking US law. That doesn’t mean that his business was illegal since he was operating under NZ jurisdiction. Corporations frequently choose countries that have laws conducive to their businesses.
  - Anyone
    
    the bail money he asks for is the one he has posted as his bail, I forgot how much it was, but it is not “undisclosed”
    and he only asks for his money back, not for the US to pay for his legal or living expenses
    
    it’s really a very reasonable offer
    
    MegaUpload did operate out of HongKong, not New Zealand
    and he followed DMCA takedowns, even though he didn’t have to, so he was fully legal even under US law (which he was not subject to)
Bunea Petru

Why don’t we set up a fund raiser for him ?
- huh
  
  Go ahead and start one. Just remember tuby has plenty of cash to defend himself.
  - Guest
    
    Yeah. Except not, since a shitload of his funds are frozen.
    
    Heh, “tuby”. He’s got plenty of tubes, eh?
  - Guest
    
    Then he wont mind paying back when he wins lol
ian

we need the countries to pull out of extradition laws with US who think they rule the world NZ should tell them go jump there is nothing gained for NZ having this arrangement with the united states it always just to suit them
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Ricardo

That is something I can’t understand in US democracy that is spread around the world. They freeze all your money and ask you to pay giant bills for legal expenses and do not allow you to use your money. It’s not democracy, it’s not freedom. In Brazil that does not happen, any judge would let you use your money for that or the case would be dismissed or rescheduled to start all over again because you did not have a fair defense.
- http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay
  
  This isn’t something that’s indicative of the United States. Don’t hate on the US in general. This is the Obama administration doing this, let’s be clear about that.
  
  The DOJ is the Department of Justice. This is the President’s “Arm of the law.” The only way to end the corruption that comes out of this department is to hire a new President. Eric Holder, the current head of the DoJ, calls all the shots. He’s the boss, and his boss is Obama and Biden. Congress has no control over Holder. This is why Obama has so many of these “Czars” working for him – so he can get stuff done without Congress. Such bypassing of the “checks and balances” of the US government is also known as a “power-grab”. Obama is grabbing power left and right, simply through the DOJ by choosing which laws to enforce. That’s not the President’s job – his job is to uphold the laws as they’re written. When you ‘choose’ which laws to obey and which to ignore, this is also know as “corruption”.
  
  Obama is a “big government” kind of guy because the bigger the government, the more henchmen he’ll have to do his bidding. And because Congress’s own power doesn’t expand with added government workers, this means that Obama’s personal arm of our political system out-grows it: Obama can then make things happen faster than Congress’s ability to keep up. Essentially he’s flooding the system beyond the system’s ability to repair itself. 4 more yeas of this would be disastrous for our country. Just horrible. Obama is probably the worst president we’ve ever had. It would be sad if it wasn’t so scary – Obama’s what we call a “dangerous fool”. That’s the worst kind of fool.
  - Desu1
    
    It happens all the time in the Federal system.
http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

Oh man, I wouldn’t put it past the Obama administration to pull some shit like this. They use the DOJ like it’s Obama’s private Brownshirt hit-squad. This is Chicago-style politics reaped on a global scale.

Obama is what we call a dangerous fool. That’s the worst kind of fool.
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I have this feeling that the dismissal order brought to the court/DOJ by Megaupload to have the case dismissed will now be put on HOLD until just after the extradition hearing next year. The judge will claim that the dismal charges are premature pending the outcome of the extradition hearing or something like that. If the extradition is successful for the US (I hope it fails) then there is still chance for the US to get Megaupload to face a trial etc. to drop the charges now before the extradition hearing would be a failure on the US with them ending up with egg on their faces if the extradition hearing would be a success as then Megaupload would have been extradited for absolutely nothing.
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omg dotcom this was the worst move you could have done … say bye bye to your rights and hello to a cell
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B_Me

This will make quite the interesting documentary someday; I wonder if Dotcom has the cameras rolling?
- Desu1
  
  I hope he does. My guess is that he has some footage
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amandajhonson35

we need the countries to pull out of extradition laws with US who think they rule the world NZ should tell them go jump there is nothing gained for NZ having this arrangement with the united states it always just to suit them
Guest

This fact that usa mighty try, they mighty agree on some of terms like volunteering extraction and “fair” trial homever money part they probable wont give moneys until he is in usa(and even in then its only SOME money not necessary millions dollars).

USA also mighty offer counter proposal; that is they pay flight ticket, and they would say “you get your money when you are here” (like bait), he arrives then they put him holding cell to wait for trial(who knows how long it can be like thousends years, like ppl in guantanamoly that was supposed to be closed). Say that money think is still under consiration in later date… why would kim dotcom even come to usa if does not get money first…
http://www.managementplus.com/ Katharine Rhoades

That he and his fellow defendants will walk free, if they are given a fair trial.
Anonymous

That man isn’t coming back alive if US really picks up his offer. Either way, he made a mistake in storing his money in the wallet of the enemy.

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