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Kim Dotcom’s Gaming Lag Hints at New Spying Controversy

New information suggests that Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom may have been spied on for weeks longer than the authorities have admitted. Last October Dotcom noticed an unusual lag in the 100 megabit fiber connection he had installed for optimal Modern Warfare 3 gameplay. At the time technicians couldn’t find a source for the connection problems, but Dotcom is now convinced that GCSB, the Kiwi equivalent of the CIA, was already spying on him.

Last week New Zealand’s Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security found that the government had illegally spied on Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom.

The Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) carried out surveillance on Dotcom, despite the fact that by law it can only conduct action against foreign targets.

The condemning report prompted New Zealand Prime Minister John Key to apologize to Dotcom, but that doesn’t appear to be the end of the matter. The spying issue raises questions about the reliability of the evidence that was obtained in the case.

Today another chapter can be added to the surveillance controversy, as new information suggests that it may have been going on for much longer than the authorities have admitted. The new information is based on Internet connection problems that started last October at the Dotcom mansion.

Dotcom is a gaming fanatic. As MEGARACER he became #1 in Modern Warfare 3′s Free For All (FFA) game mode last year, and to accomplish this a fast connection is preferred. This was one of the reasons Megaupload’s founder had a fiber connection installed, with 100 megabit direct to the southern cross cable.

The fiber connection should have guaranteed a low gaming lag, but this changed last fall.

“When it was first installed the connection had 2 or 3 hops, but when I came back from Hong Kong last October suddenly it had 5 to 9 hops and the latency would increase by roughly 60 to 90 milliseconds,” Dotcom told TorrentFreak.

To find out where the problem lay Dotcom checked his equipment, and when he couldn’t find any problems he called in help.

“We brought in a technician to see if any changes were made to the setup we have here, but nothing was changed. After a week of investigating to see what the reason for the lag is I asked the technician to get in touch with the telecom provider,” Dotcom told us.

It took a week before Telecom got back to Dotcom and when they did, the company said it was really hard to identify any issues.

“It was all a little bit mysterious,” Dotcom recalls.

The ISP did promise to keep looking for the source of the problem, but went silent. In hindsight, however, things start to fall into place.

“At the time we thought they were just incompetent and that they didn’t know how to manage a network,” Dotcom says. “But today, in light of this GCSB spying, we understand that the traffic of my Internet connection was rerouted, probably through equipment that the GCSB controlled.”

The Herald has obtained further details of the investigation Telecom engineers and staff launched, confirming the massive lag.

If the issues are indeed caused by GCSB spying efforts, then this would seriously harm the credibility of the Government, as a spokeswoman for the Prime Minister said again today that no surveillance was carried out before December 16.

It would also mean that Detective Inspector Grant Wormald committed perjury in court, as he explicitly denied that any other spying efforts were carried out.

Dotcom is convinced that the gaming lag is evidence that GCSB started monitoring his communications in October. In addition, he notes that they also installed four cameras on his property, something that will be discussed in more detail during the next court hearing.

“The string of unlawful activity in this case doesn’t seem to break up,” Dotcom says.

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  • Midas

    GCSB ruining your fun since 1977.

    • Banana

      Team Fortress 2 is much better, even Counter Strike

      • http://twitter.com/TracyMDavis2 Tracy M. Davis

        @547ff52fbf3e2e13a69ab0eb58ec8bf1:disqus his is serious and new information that can potentially lead to more serious crimes commit by the GCSB. http://WWW.GetPositionBetweenMillionaires.notlong.com

      • Guest

         Counter-Strike 1.6 FTW (GO sucks)

      • Steve Donaghy

         I don’t think you can compare TF2, Counter-strike (Any) or MW3. They’re all FPS’s but all have a completely different style of play.

        • facepalm.gif

          Comparing a shooting game with a shooting game….yeah, that’s retarded

    • Techanon

      Government agencies, spying on you since 1984.

    • Guest321

      Gotta get me one of those 100mbps fiber lines for Modern Warfare 3.

      • petrelli

        I have one. They’re shit for MW3 because of “lag compensation”. Unless I’m being spied on too? O_o

    • Anon

      if i was him, id make up some bullshit rumor, and when kim gets called out for it, u can be like how would u even know that.unless your spying on me =o

  • Anyone

    it’s about time this whole case gets thrown out

    • Alex

      Actually. The longer the case goes on, the more corruption is uncovered. Just think about it, if the US courts threw the case out immediately; like it should have been done, none of this corruption in the NZ government and secret service would have been uncovered.

      • Guest

        You would have thought that the governments would have dropped the case to avoid exposure of their corruption but this just further shows their corruption considering that there is 150 million dollars of megupload’s money seized and frozen that they are willing to do everything illegally if they have to in order to do everything to make sure that this money gets confiscated and given to the MAFFIA. If it was just for a couple of thousand bucks then the governments would have dropped this cased a long time ago. They are only doing it in order to get the 150 million dollars.

        • CoruptionIsEverywhere

          Corporations and Governments working for America are above the law.

  • tDk’

    This is just crazy…

  • Truec

    Lag?  DAMN YOU GUBBAMINT, STOP SPYIN’ ON ME!

  • KimDotnet

    Haha, you know it’s a slow news day when the lead story is that Kim Dotcom’s gaming connection slowed down “by roughly 60 to 90 milliseconds”! Hey TF – we’re getting tired of the non-stories about this guy.

    • bittorrent OG

      Please STFU.  This is serious and new information that can potentially lead to more serious crimes commit by the GCSB. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      I’m not. This was illegal behavior, especially if they didn’t have a warrant or whatever the equivalent of a warrant is in New Zealand.

      Personally, if my connection suddenly started showing ‘lag’ or iffy connections, I would be foaming at the mouth.

      • Sarah Robinson

        Wow, over-react much?

        • Guest

          Naive much?

        • Andrew Lee

           So you’re saying if someone was spying on your connection you would be perfectly fine with it?

          They could be looking at anything from your day to day surfing,chats,personal photos,online banking, and much more.

          I’d be pretty fucking pissed off if this happened to me even if a warrant was used.

        • nick

          he mad

      • Guest

        “Personally, if my connection suddenly started showing ‘lag’ or iffy connections, I would be foaming at the mouth.”

        FirstWorldProblems amirite?

        • Anonymous

          You wouldn’t like me in charge lil kid, 3rd world aid would be among the first things I’d stop.

        • Nanotomics

          Not if you live in Australia, we have 3rd world internet at 1st world prices.

          Go free market!!!

    • Guest

       nope

    • The_Strawbear

      Exactly, I’m not sure why anyone felt the need to spy on him, I feel I know everything including his bowel movements just from reading TF recently.

      I’d care much more about this guy if he wasn’t so obviously just as bad as the studios who are after him. TPB guys are ideological heroes, KDC is just a money grabbing ass who was too dumb or greedy.

      • Colin Carr

         Just because he has a ‘dubious’ past, doesn’t mean governments and the MAFIAA are now entitled to totally ignore their own laws to chase him down. Remember, they’ll do exactly the same to you if they think you constitute a threat to their corrupt, evil empires.

      • Guest

        Hey Strawbear, do you mind explaining how Dotcom is just as bad as the studios when he’s never done any of horrible, illegal shit that the studios do?

        Can you logic, motherfucker?

      • anon

        Strawbear more like strawman amirite

    • AntiTroll

      At least try to make sense corporate paid troll! And stop voting for yourself!

      10 time? Dam!  Are you a psycho?

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

       Who’s we?…..

      • Guest

        The MAFIA Deuce!

        He is obviously paid by them to voice fake opinions that even themselves don’t believe in..

  • Guest

    News just in the Crown service acting on behalf of the US DOJ are sweating very heavily trying to think up of ways to bullshit their way out of these further revelations to avoid extradition being refused.

  • Anonymous

    FBI was also collecting the data directly.

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      US agencies, especially the NSA, do it on an international level. An encrypted connection and a non-encrypted connection can be compared by using statistical analysis techniques. They monitor traffic all over the Internet. That’s why even behind an encrypted VPN, you’re not entirely safe as even encrypted traffic has a fingerprint. 

      Even if they have no access to a VPN’s logs, they can watch along hops that lead to servers known for being VPN hosts. They see what goes in and see what comes out. They’ve been developing this on a global scale since 9/11. 

      • ScrewEwe2

        VPN’s can be a pain in the ass. I joined Twitter a few months ago and made 2 tweets over a 3 week period to wish someone well and had my account suspended for “aggresive following behavior”. When I signed up I followed the person so I could tweet to him, and other than those 2 tweets, I never looked at or looked for any other Twitter members accounts. As far as I can figure out, my account got tagged because of what other VPN users have done while connected to Twitter while using the same IP address that I was assigned. Twitter would not listen to anything I had to say, nor were they willing to review my case. I’m sticking to my original gut feeling of Fuck Twitter and Facebook and any other Social Disease Networking Sites! The only “Likes” I’ll click are on TF.

        • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

          I am starting to think some sites have a list of most VPN IPs. 4chan, for example, won’t let you post if you’re on a VPN. Bit of a pain because despite its reputation, /b/ has some of the most civilized and intelligent open discussion on the net.

        • ScrewEwe2

          Update. Checked my email today and Twatter has restored my account.

          “Hello,
          Twitter has automated systems that find and remove multiple automated spam accounts in bulk. Unfortunately, it looks like your account got caught up in one of these spam groups by mistake.
          I’ve restored your account; sorry for the inconvenience.”

          I still say Screw Twitter and Farcebook.

  • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

    Don’t fuck with a gamer’s connection. 

    Anytime this happens at an ISP, compliance dept takes over the account. If a customer service rep gets a call regarding it, they have to play dumb and fire off an email to compliance. In the account’s notes you’ll see something like “05/10/2011 – COMPLIANCE ACCOUNT; DO NOT MAKE CHANGES.” And the account will be properly coded, so that the billing system won’t disable it if it goes unpaid.

    Could be something as simple as the customer filed for bankruptcy and thus all communiques with the customer have to be through someone who knows bankruptcy law. Simply saying “yeah, you owe $x.xx” could get the company sued. But in some cases there could be an investigation involved and hampering an investigation is a felony most anywhere. 

    So if you suspect something; don’t pay your bill :D

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      There is a difference between hampering an investigation and telling someone that the CIA/FBI/whatever is tapping your connection.

      A very big difference and one that I personally would LOVE to push in the courts.

      Unless there is a ‘do not reveal’ order, they CAN tell someone that “Yeah, the FBI/CIA asked for permission to monitor your connection/gave us a warrant that says that they can monitor your connection!”

      • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

        You know this for sure? The US Code itself is 27,000 pages and that’s just general federal law, not counting tax law, securities, etc. Even lawyers and judges will tell you they don’t know the law. That’s why they have so many law school interns working their cases behind the scenes. Then there’s state laws to deal with. Not to mention you would, at the very least, get canned. Gotta deal with that kind of shit anywhere you work really unless you’re flipping burgers somewhere.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Yes, I do know this for sure. I’m a paralegal and I work for a lawyer who knows this kind of law very well and without one of those ‘do not reveal’ orders (which are usually given even if the police don’t ask for them or are part of another law when talking about terrorism cases, just to cover bases) the ISP can reveal that your connection is being monitored.

          I also have a friend who was told that his connection was being monitored and he was being investigated for downloading child pornography (the actual real child pornography, not lolicon stuff). The police pitched a bitch that the guy was told and were trying to go after the ISP he used (Verizon) until the ISP pointed out “Hey, you didn’t have one of those ‘confidentiality’ orders! We were totally within our legal rights without that to tell someone that you were investigating them!”

          Judge agreed.

          The reason you don’t usually hear about this is that confidentiality orders are usually per-forma. Automatically given or automatically requested.

        • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

          You may be right. But there’s a few issues. 

          1. Only the compliance officer directly involved in the investigation knows if there is a such an order or not. 

          2. Whenever I see someone saying something like “I would LOVE to push that in the courts”, My thinking is that person is suicidal and insane. If you have experience in seeing how the feds operate then you should know to not test them. Just look how they got Martha Stewart on obstruction of justice and conspiracy. That’s someone who’s wealthy, can afford lawyers, and the case was heavily publicized.  Your average Joe on here doesn’t stand a chance. However had Martha simply told the feds to “get lost” that would have been the end of it. She’s guilty for simply talking to them. But how many honest people would be pressured into these “informal interviews”?

          3. Just look at the bullshit involved in the Kim Dotcom case. Despite all that, had the US got their clutches on him: he would rot in prison. 

          Innocent people get screwed by the federal system every day. My uncle did 11 years for simply running a public FTP server in the 90s and cops doing a child porn sting in Germany uploaded pics to it. Planting evidence? Not how they saw it. Since ICE didn’t technically plant it…

          It’s a lot safer and smarter to not test these things. If you’re a typical wage earner, you cannot mount a real defense against the feds and their many trumped charges where usually at least 1 will stick. 

    • Dia

       I’ve clearly seen your “The Wire”. Don’t expect this to work fast thought. I didn’t pay for 9 months before my connection got cut.

  • Shogunreaper

    Since when do you need a 100 megabit connection for playing online games?

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      Probably more to do with bypassing hops that lower-bandwidth connections would have to make. Many ISPs are more invested into the quality of the larger connections, especially business accounts.  

    • icec0ld

      Since living in New Zealand forces you to use internet almost 10 years behind the US

    • Guest

       Since when you need a brain to make stupid posts?

    • Guest

      Since game developers became fucking retarded and forgot how to write netcode.

      • CallOfDutySucks

        They haven’t forgotten they’re still using the netcode from a 10/15 year old open source game, Quake I think.

    • http://twitter.com/bacon_frazzle Bacon Frazzle

      Who said anything about NEEDING a 100 megabit connection?
      KDC WANTED a 100 megabit connection, and he got one – jammy sod!

      • Shogunreaper

        He said he got it for optimal Modern Warfare 3 gameplay, which you don’t need 100mb for.

  • RobFromNZ

    New Zealand’s GCSB is more like the NSA in the States. NZ’s SIS is more like the CIA.

  • Guest

    100 mbps to play Call of Duty..
    show-off :p

    • Guest

       Shit man I play with my 300 baud modem and kick all yoz internet toughie asses

      • CallOfDutySucks

        Like I said earlier that’s because the code was actually written for your 300 baud modem. You actually have the upper hand.

  • Runciter

    “in the 100 megabit fiber connection he had installed for optimal Modern Warfare 3 gameplay”

    this dude needs to shut the fuck up

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      A business account will get you lower ping times than a residential account. Many business accounts start at 100mbs. The network topography for them is different in the ISP’s network. Nowadays with huge ISPs such as Time Warner, Verizon, etc. you may never leave the ISP’s network up until the IP of the site you’re requesting. 

      I have a relatively small ISP for US standards and running a trace route to Google.com, 6 of the 8 hops are owned by my ISP. 

      As a business customer, I may have 1 or 2 less hops to make. 

      This is an even bigger concern for those in New Zealand due to the bottlenecks that exist. If 20,000 connections are vying for 15,000 slots, which connections do you think are forced to share one? 

  • bno112300

    I hope he gets a VPN to try to avoid the tunnel. (though it’s probably not going to work for obvious reasons)
    though encrypted traffic should make them back off a little.

    • Guest

       VPN sucks for gaming.

      • Kaede

        That depends on what VPN you pick, some VPN’s are actually made for gaming

        • Guest

           For example…?

  • Obvious

    Booo hoo, rich man who makes money off other peoples work is upset because he can’t frag cartoon characters as fast as he wants. Cry me a river.

    • Obviously Not

      Booo hoo, moron poster who doesn’t make much money is upset because he sucks at video games and has a slow internet connection.  Cry me a river.

      • http://twitter.com/bacon_frazzle Bacon Frazzle

        Obvious, stop being such a sausage jockey……

    • Guest

      lol @ MAFIAA troll 

      This isn’t about some rich dude fragging cartoon characters, it’s about ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING. And we’re not going to forget that. 

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      Are you kidding?  In every aspect of your economic life you face between one to
      six huge Corporations that have a legal lock to unearned profit for every other breath you take; and, you think Kim DotCom makes money off other people’s work?

  • Violated0

    I hope he kept a copy of the traceroute when to show all those IPs to the general Internet community would soon turn up exactly who owns that hardware.

    Well you sure don’t mess with the connection of a serious gameplayer when to add on multiple hops with a 60 to 90ms lag would soon have them screaming and pulling their hair out, So it would not be a surprise that he did notice a big change.

    Still all he has now is a theory and while it certainly could be true he was being spied on for longer than claimed but it could also be true that his ISP may have rerouted his network to add on extra customers. So this is a matter that does need to be carefully investigated to see what the truth is here.

  • Monster

     60 to 90 milliseconds…

    who fucking cares.

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      The reason it matters because if he was being monitored that far back, it shows that they were lying under oath. 

      • Monster

         OR MAYBE the connection just had problems. He’s starting to sound like a strung out junkie staring through the blinds all day. hahaha

    • http://twitter.com/bacon_frazzle Bacon Frazzle

       KimDotCom fucking cares……………….

    • FinalApokylypse

       If you’re very competitive you may want every edge you can get and while 60-90ms is not much it could be the difference of life and death many times in MW3.

  • http://twitter.com/MNguyen88 Michael Nguyen

    does this mean that kimdotcom had a better internet connection than the government! 

    • Dxloat

       If you carry the name Dotcom your connection damn well should be faster than the gubmnt’s

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    Increasingly, lower level Civil courts tell us, on behalf of Intelligence agencies and law enforcement offices, that we have no expectation of privacy in Public spaces. 

    The problem is that we are simultaneously being told by these same parties that we have only a qualified, if diminished, expectation of protected privacy in Private spaces. 

    Kim DotCom is perhaps an ass; but, the essential question is whether he has any defensible right to privacy at all, in private or public spaces. 

    This matters only if you’re the kind of illicit fat fuck who draws the attention of government……Yep!  If you’re stupid enough to annoy the powerful…..and, if you’re a child molesting son of a……

    Wait!  Shit!  Why are all these navy seals knocking down my door…?

    Oh shit!  My porn!  Did you just threaten me with the wet towel treatment? 

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      If I was fat and had a hot wife like Mona, I would be a bit of an ass too. Better than false humility or someone with no self confidence. 

      Women may say they hate it, and they may argue and yell at a guy for being an arrogant prick. In the end, her genetics will force her to forgive a man for being a man; but she’ll never forgive a pussy. 

      And what does this have to do with CP?

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  • Atterthon

    Prime Minister is going to fish !

    • Luke

       It’s not as big of a deal here in NZ as it’s made out to be by TorrentFreak.

  • Notyuorbuisnes

    60ping on 100mb ? the fuck he should have stable 48ping  o.O 

    • Guest

      New Zealand

  • Dot Bomb
  • Tyy44

    i feel bad for him. who knows what he is using now. when you have that speed, you cant exactly go back to the old stuff.

    • Colin Carr

       I seem to recall his bail conditions forbid him from using the internet at all right now.

      • FinalApokylypse

         I don’t believe that’s still standing as he uses twitter all the time and he’s hardly hiding that.

  • Guest

    I’m beginning to think they should change this site’s name to MEGAfreak.

    • Guest

      What’s the matter, you don’t want people to know that the NZ government is fucking up left and right and case against Mega is falling apart?

  • tonyj

     So every person in the U.S. who uses a VPN is spied upon the Government because why would you need to hide your real IP address while you are on the internet?

  • Boblenton3

    Not that I’m doubting Dot-Com but surely thats something we ALL suffer from…usual lag and unresponsive gameplay but isn’t that the servers from the games company  EA for example, the more gamers the more busy etc?

    • http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

      Right now it’s just a hypothesis. But these things can be checked. In the corporate world, emails are retained for situations that arise such as this. You can remove them from Lotus Notes or whatever you use, but IT keeps a copy on a secure drive and in an off-site backup location. All it takes is a subpoena and we’ll find out the truth. 

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Difference between lag and your direct connection suddenly having 9 instead of 3 hops to destination. When that happens, you can be pretty sure that your connection is being fucked with somehow.

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  • Anonymous

    internet connection lag? scared you’re being spied on? just install MW3 and fiber optic.the definitive check for all users!

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  • ZBOUB!

    VPN !!!!!
    Go Astrill Kim ! 

    • dksfl

      I knew someone would say this. Him on a VPN. You fucking crazy..

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  • ScrewEwe2

    I wonder if Kim Dotcom was the Big Man on campus? I bet with all the fiber optics and security cameras in and around his house, he’s the Big Man on Pusscam. Money can buy a lot of cool stuff. I’m gonna start saving up bucks to get myself a trophy phuck.

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  • ADF78A6C65FC10A0

    Lag reveals man in the middle attacks but not read only taps.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/chillinfart Arturo Julio Zevallos Córdova

    Months ago i suffered the same symptoms from my ISP after revealing how America Movil (aka Claro) tricks the Glasnost test.They are wiretapping me too?

  • Mr. Negative

    A government spying on it’s citizens. Fucking retarded to consider this news worthy and even more fucking retarded to even consider the possibility that any repercussions will fall back on said government(s).

    They got caught spying. The end.

    This will change NOTHING. There is a system in place that will not be undone by something so unremarkable as the uncovering of a government spying on who it feels it should. We all knew this was happening to begin with since the early days of the internet.

    This system will evolve as it always has. And Kim’s case will not change that fact.

    I hate that Kim has to be the unlucky one here, but I do believe the best he will get out of this is his case being thrown out. And no, I do not consider that justice. But it’s the best he’s gonna get.

  • Anonymous Coward

    Doesn’t make any sense at all that they’re rerouting his traffic to wiretap it.
    Would be way easier just to span a port on the ISP switch where he is connected.

    Regarding progamer, LOL
    Remember back in the quake2 days, he arranged a tournament. Rage quitted when he was beaten badly, and shut down the whole tournament (including price money).

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  • Hosa

    Just wait a second.. can someone please explain to me HOW they rerouted his connection ? did they tresspass on his prperty? i dont get exactly how this is done

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