And because of this the law will never work. Because people could be downloading their copyrighted content over a P2P network and be either illegally or legally doing it (as in breaking or not breaking the law).

Also the monitoring methods are really bad. They have been known to be so wrong that a law firm contracted to fine people for breaching corporates copyrights has even fined a dead/blind/old person that didn’t know anything about p2p and didn’t download anything. Also they keep reporting things like printers and other devices that are in no way capable of piracy on a p2p network.

Disconnecting someone’s internet connection does not help the content makers in anyway. Even if piracy has a negative impact on sales (which I doubt as many company’s already put me of their products) disconnecting their internet temporarily will not do anything to help sales as they can still manually share with a mate. And their internet will be back up within a week. Their not even getting money out of it. And the only way to stop online piracy is to kick online pirates of the internet. This will not solve piracy so why do it?

This just makes things worse for everyone.

If the government disconnects my internet permanently I will fly to the parliament building and stand outside and not eat until I get my internet on and my rights back.

RIAA have been caught and charged of price fixing. RIAA have sued against damages in sales but then never given the royalties over to the artists (taking someone’s royalties is called stealing). RIAA support only a few companies which do not makeup the entire industry (however they claim to support the entire industry) and each of those companies do not work for the artists as they have shares and work for the shareholders. So to sum it up the RIAA work for a few companies (not all companies) in the music industry whose sole goal is to make money for the shareholder. Given that the RIAA have been caught price fixing, have restrictive DRM, operate in anti-competitive ways, been charged for price fixing, sues school children wrecking their lives with debt forever, and have even stolen from the artists it raises huge amounts of doubt to their so called motive “supporting artists + making the world nicer”. That coupled with the fact that they do not represent the majority of people and that in a democracy the majority decides what to do makes the law dum.

Iv had to explain to quite a few foreigners the situation within new zealand.

In short:
‘we pre much have a monopoly situation, where one company owns most of the infrastructure and the only pipe out of the country’

Many are quite surprised and horrified to hear that.

theier old system of working is a thing of past !!!!

http://www.Urssiva.com

Hope they change..

It’s funny how France came up with the idea of 3 strikes and then they didn’t implement it but some other “democratic” nations are.

I think it’s because people who’d never even heard of the issue suddenly noticed half their Facebook or Twitter friends’ faces turning into black squares. When they asked “WTF?” they started learning (a) what the issue was, and (b) how many people cared about it. Pretty soon they also blacked out their profiles and started following tweets and links and – hey presto! It became a truly viral protest.

Hats off to everyone involved – this was NZ’s first real taste of the power of online activism. Hopefully it won’t be the last.

Right on the money. If you think this 3-strikes legislation is neither fascist nor plutocratic, then you need to learn what the words fascist and plutocratic mean.

You’re right that New Zealand was founded on democratic principles, which means those who let this legislation pass are acting as traitors to their own country. Until they’re purged from the government, it can’t rightly be called a democracy.

I’m sure this is all lost on you and your two braincells, however.

naw, what Im saying is that our rights will be eroded significantly if ACTA is enacted, this was done on BUSH’s watch as he did not feel we actually had any. Berman just is a paid flack for the entertainment industry which I suppose is to be expected.

True, New Zealand, after all, is one of the most democratic nations on earth, scoring a 9.19 on the Economist Democracy Index, ranking as the 7th most democratic nation on earth (after Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Netherlands, Denmark, and Finland), and Freedom House also considers it a completely free nation, so that only someone living in a box would miss the fact that New Zealand is a free country, but the fact is that these draconian laws, which violate basic human rights, are very much in the spirit of fascism and plutocracy, introducing elements of fascism and plutocracy where before there was little or none.

If you are saying that hard right conservative George W. Bush and flaming liberal Howard Berman are cooperating to fight against file-sharing, then we are truly in trouble!

Notice how the campaign against these laws or any TF articles regarding them have not mentioned the word “fascist” or “plutocracy” even once. To do so would make most people who live in the real world, not a self-deluded fantasy land like yourselves, not offer support the campaign because they would think the people involved to be either crazy or just plain ignorant and stupid and wouldn’t want to be associated with them.

NZ is a country founded on democratic principles. Under a fascist regime the type of open dissent being displayed here wouldn’t be allowed here. The democratically elected government is listening to people’s and business concerns and if they don’t it may be an issue that causes them to be voted out of power.

http://www.state.ie/blog/illegal-music-sites-to-be-blocked-in-ireland/

I mean.. nobody gives a rats ass about someones PROFILE.. and i would bet money people would even notice let alone CARE that someone blacked out there picture.. i mean seriously.. i must be so out of touch.. or these morons live in a fantasy world.

How long before we rise up in revolution? The french aristocracy suffered the same fate.

It does appear to be spearheaded by the Creative Freedom, and it seems like the idea has come about from a some forum-goers here:

forum (dot) vodafone (dot) co (dot) nz (slash) index (dot) php (question mark) showtopic=1567

“Does anyone even realize (care) that those proposals violate human rights?”

Nope, only a few people care, because even if it does violate basic human liberties, people just think that it is just some really unimportant deal about getting files for free, or something. Only a few people realize why this issue very important.

rage.

Top four campaign contributions for 2006:

Time Warner $21,000
News Corp $15,000
Sony Corp of America $14,000
Walt Disney Co $13,550

Fascism is oppresive rule, Plutocracy is rule by the wealthy. Corporatocracy is a popular term that means rule by the corporations. If you deny that that’s the case here, you’re obviously missing out on the state of the world big time.

Also, Hitler may have been elected, but this never happened in a democratic way.

Its basically peak tourist season in many areas in new zealand, and many internet cafes have been sweating under the collar because of this law.

Libraries have implemented some rather draconian filtering, and hostels/hotels with public access are in the same position as internet cafes.

Sooner it gets struck down the better.

remember hitler was elected to power

Ya now ya see i am way ahead of most of you on my ideas , that crazy ol chronoss what a nut eh?

Maybe a few of my ideas might go in hte long run. Trust me two months a 40% even refusing to pay the net cost on account of a law would get the ISPS howling large.

RIAA and MPAA don’t care about YOUR economy, just don’t mess with the jet and there million dollar homes.

got to love actors and musicians that aren’t speaking against it either. Interesting again.

Are you for or against file sharing.
Speak or forever be NO SALE.

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TPB FTW
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When the shitvampire moneyleeches at your local copyright holder representation organisation want to soften a copyright law, you know it’s bad stuff.

What Key has effectively done is answer the protest and the ISP complaints with an ‘are you sure?’ and now he’s stalling. He has no intention of changing this nefarious traitor law.