Oh yeah, There was no campaign by napster that made me start hating metallica I just heard them talking to congress and said “Ok they are all pieces of shit now”.

Also, Load and every album after that also sucked balls so that helped me move them into the “They suck” category too.

FUCK YOU Lars!!!
:)

there is so much free software available these days (starting with Firefox), none of these creators gets paid for the software they make, yet they still make it. That shouldn’t be possible in the supposedly “logical” world you think we live in.

the fundamental difference between software and other creative works is that software is almost always a tool, and people (and lets face it, corporations, under which a great deal of open source and even free software is written now) use their own tools.

and of course i take issue with your statement that only independent artists are real artists. that’s the same BS the other idiot was spewing.

i do agree the labels have a stranglehold on top 40 radio but it’s not like they’re playing something that the majority doesn’t want to hear. you can say that’s all marketing and maybe you’re right but i don’t think we’ll ever see a day where something like fleet foxes has a majority following. store shelf space is also a problem but not for very much longer. best buy recently halved their record shelving. you seem to think that if the labels were eradicated there would be no more pop music, and little niche bands would get their much deserved time in the limelight. unfortunately, this is not the case. there will always be pop music and thus a discrepancy in what is played and sold.

It’s also a fair bet, that if the Music cartels die, the quality of music will rise dramatically. Right now the cartels monopolize all traditional outlets, shelf space, radio stations, TV stations. What they play is being manipulated by the music cartels to push their drivel to the wider public. Small time, independent musicians (i.e. those who could really use some money to get by) can’t get through and need day time jobs. The cartels must die to liberate the real artists.

Getting paid is incidental for a genuine artist because a genuine artist creates art for the love of the craft.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH…so you respond with the same recycled nonsense? that was your strategy? completely ignoring the fact that an artist can make art for it’s own sake AND for money? that there is no historical or otherwise rational evidence for the two being mutually exclusive?

getting paid is not incidental to an independent adult who has to do their own laundry and pay their own rent. again, one day you will learn this when you move out of mommy’s house or your daddy-afforded dorm or whatever other completely dependent living conditions you’re no doubt currently enjoying.

and no, artists WILL NOT continue to create art if they can’t afford to. common sense again. if you have to hawk you instruments to buy food you will not be playing them. if you have to spend the majority of your time on a day job you will not be making anywhere as much art to anywhere near the same degree of quality as a person with your identical abilities who can afford to devote themselves to the craft full time. art is a craft like any other and requires a lot of practice to do well. being paid for your art affords you the time to make more of it. this couldn’t be simpler.

nothing in any of you adolescent drivel supports what you claim and it is not my reading comprehension that’s lacking, merely your obvious inability to think rationally or support your views logically.

there’s no way you’re older than fourteen.

There’s no way you’re older than three. Your bawling little tantrum of butthurt only supports this, as well as the fact that you seem unable to grasp such a simple concept as playing music for the love of music versus playing music for love of money.

Getting paid is incidental for a genuine artist because a genuine artist creates art for the love of the craft. Even if they weren’t getting paid for it, they would still find themselves creating art. Hence, incidental.

Getting paid is not incidental for a whore because a whore creates “art” for the love of money. If they weren’t being paid for it, or weren’t being paid their idea of enough, they would immediately quit. Even when they’re filthy rich like the members of Metallica are, the whore complains bitterly about “lost revenue” and “deminishing profits” since the driving force behind their work is an insatiable greed for money. The whore is not a genuine artist.

But all of this flew right over your head, and so you somehow misinterpreted a ‘genuine musician’ to mean a Gandhi-like persona who lives in abject poverty for reasons that only make sense inside your own fevered little imagination.

And that, kids, is why you need reading comprehension. Just being able to read isn’t enough to keep you from making a retard out of yourself.

lol

The whole article is to generate publicity which it succeded doing for a band way past its self by date. Seriously they havent released anything worth stealing since the black album.

If someone could rationalize that part of it maybe I would be pissed too.

I completely agree, and that is a huge problem with the mainstream labels. They no longer sell music, they sell an image and a bunch of different brands. Kind of like an overpriced department store.

Have I heard everything else out there? That would be impossible, so no, but I can bet you haven’t either. Not if you judge “everything else” as what you hear on suck ass corporate radio. Thanks to P2P, I have discovered bands that blow Metallica right off the face of the Earth.

I’ll also have to agree with the poster who pointed out that European bands are much better than their American counterparts when it comes to Metal and Prog. I say that as an American.

What Lar$ doesn’t realize, is that the witch hunt against Napster caused a huge backlash against the very industry he is part of. This backlash was a just as much a reason for the downturn in sales as is the industries lack of promoting decent music, payola, over pricing, and reduced availability of more options when shopping for music in brick and morter stores. P2P was created as an alternative to discovering the music the labels weren’t will to support as well as help people reconnect with music from their past. People were, and still are, tired of being forced fed the same old garbage over the past 15 years or so. Everything played on American Rock radio sounds exactly the same for the most part, so P2P is the only true way to discover new music.

Genuine musicians don’t play because they’re getting paid, they play because they love to play. Getting paid is incidental and if it happens it’s a bonus.

LOL

“Incidental”?

“if it happens it’s a bonus”?

there’s no way you’re older than fourteen. no way. where do you get off speaking for so many artists when your mother STILL DOES YOUR LAUNDRY?

surely if your an artist(of anything)you create for the love of what ever you make..be it painting music etc.so the question is do you do it for the love of it or only for the money??

seriously? those are the ONLY options you give? either you do it for love or you do it for money? is this really your retard-level, simplistic worldview?

LOL

artists LIVE IN BUILDINGS and EAT FOOD just like anybody else! it’s common sense that if they love making music they would love to make a living doing what they love FULL TIME rather than in the few off hours outside of their day jobs.

while it’s true there are some “artists” who are only in it for the money and mr lars ulrich could very well be one of them (i don’t know, i never liked metallica) the idea that artists are these ghandi-like personas who are happy to do what they love while living off scraps and charity is an idealistic, insulting, DESTRUCTIVE, fallacy that is based on exactly nothing. the best artists throughout history SOLD THEIR ART. all the best, most lauded artists throughout history, did it for the art AND THE MONEY. the two are not mutually exclusive despite what a bunch of hormonal teenagers on torrent freak would have you believe.

musicians still have to be paid because being an INDEPENDENT ADULT in this world costs money. and until you freetards get what you want and we’re all living in a socialist utopia where everything is magically provided to everyone — it will always cost money. with time you will learn this. it is impossible not to.

but in the meantime, you’re an idiot. it is a sad thing that that the very invention that allows so much good information to be spread across every inch of the planet also allows people like you to spout your adolescent, idealistic ignorance.

Oh shut up, Lars.

It ain’t the 20+ years or even the millions that skew his perspective,
it’s the 20+ kilos of cocaine he has fried his brains with ..

It was theirs to loose, and they did it in the least graceful way possible.

You’d probably think he had a hard time saying he used torrents while he hates them so much, but its quite obvious that as long as it generates him revenue, he’ll say just whatever hes told to say.

Heck, if they found out that they’d make a couple of millions by proclaiming that all band members join in on gay groupsex backstage, he’d be the first to “come out”.

NOBODY consumes music.

You CANNOT consume music.

Only corporate shills talk about “consuming” music… in a pathetic attempt to redefine what it is… in a pathetic attempt to portray it as a disposable service you will pay over and over for in different formats rather than something you can own.

You have failed as artists, musicians AND human beings. Napster dying out only helped the natural progression of all things P2P.
I have stopped buying your albums a long time ago(not that anything after the “original 4″, maybe “the black album” and S&M was ever bearable), I have vividly supported P2P and I hope you have an accident have to live with a crutch. And maybe an artificial rectal opening.
Also, I hope you all get very sick minded stalkers with rusty scissors and barbed wire as main equipment coming after you to find out how it feels.

Very sincerely,

someone who gives a f*ck.

You show me any REAL band who are only in it for the money. Genuine musicians don’t play because they’re getting paid, they play because they love to play. Getting paid is incidental and if it happens it’s a bonus.

Think of the millions of struggling bands out there – most of them have more imagination and creativity than Metallica, and probably a majority of them are finer and more skilled musicians. How many of them get paid for their talent and playing? Not many. It’s not that they aren’t any good, it’s that they’re not marketable enough under the existing major labels’ business model to warrant investment as the returns won’t be high enough.

So to reiterate – money earned DOES NOT EQUAL artistic merit, it merely indicates popularity and marketability. If you think that sales alone make a band ‘great’, then you’re probably also a big fan of Britney Spears or High School Musical. All that Metallica’s sales really show is that they’re generically acceptable, or in other words, thoroughly mainstream pop.

I’ve heard a lot of things that sound better than Metallica’s music. Here, do want a short list?

Leaf blowers.

Dying cats.

Air raid sirens.

Dental drills.

Myself puking after I accidently hear Metallica.

And before you shit out a strawman argument that I’m only calling their music worthless because of their stance on filesharing, I’m a fan of Judas Priest(the real Spinal Tap)’s music despite the fact that Rob Halford has a view of filesharing that’s just as backwards as Lars Ulrich’s if not moreso.

I do care if a band is for or against filesharing, but it doesn’t factor in to whether or not I enjoy their music. A musician’s talent and a musician’s politics are two entirely seperate issues.

Too bad Metallica is short on the former.