It’s rather ironic that previews usually reach torrent networks, and they insist on releasing those.

In the end if there were no cinemas left to go I’d download the movies and watch them home. Some1 in the comments said some truths: buy some kick ass hardware, call your friends/girlfriend and have a good time at home. No night vision googles, no MAFIAA getting between you and the fun. And what has MAFIAA accomplished this time? They made the cinemas lose money.

It’s like they think “I’m going downhill because I’m an asshole that just refuses to evolve and work with my consumers… So I’m gonna take my partners with me”.

Way to go MAFIAA ;D

Profit over people. That’s capitalism.

just plug the good ol’ trustworthy DVI. DVI comes with two manly screws on each side. HDMI is for pussys.

@reasoned mind
It’s only illict recording cause your masters say it is, drone on reasoned mind, drone on :0)

and I don’t know about the rest, but Cambridge Cineworld sucks and has ruined a few films for me with their “superb” audio system

Cineworld were pressured by FACT to do this, if you walk into a Cineworld and the staff inform you that you can’t bring your laptop, don’t bloody berate them for it. They’re just doing their job. Go complain to FACT and besides, what was to stop the guy leaving his laptop in the boot of his car? Absolutely nothing.

If it’s a company policy, it’s a company policy. If you bitch about it, not only do you look like a tool, but you also hold up all the people in the queue (you know, those people who actually go to the cinema without being packed to the hilt with gadgets).

At the end of the day, even if all the people who actually brought laptops to the cinema were to stop going, I honestly don’t think it would make any significant impact on their sales.

Fair enough there is an air of “that’s not the point” about this whole thing, but still, seriously… Just suck it up and move on. This shit happens all the time, I’m sure the staff think it’s a pile of nonsense, but at the end of the day there’s nothing they can do about it.

P.S. For all I care, Cineworld could bend me over backwards and kick me up the cinema aisle into my seat anytime I go there, at the end of the day I still get to pay £13.50 a month to see all the films I want to see.

I am boycotting!

It’s fucking ridiculous.

The problem isn’t what to do with the Internet in relation to copyright. The problem is what to do with greedy, heavily monopolised industries now that technology and information exchange has superceded them and their business models.

The copyright laws have fallen behind, not in terms of their restrictiveness but in terms of their respect to freedom of information for personal use in the “information age”.

The answer isn’t wasting time, energy and OUR tax-payer money on pursuits that the Telecomms industry have already demonstrated will cost more than any amounts recovered… with the end result being lower GDP, 20% of Britain on crippled connections and filesharer’s credit ratings being ruined for life due to the industry’s relentless attempts to make examples out of people who refuse to be extorted and are prepared to stand up for themselves. (cases which fellow filesharers don’t seem to get intimidated over… so they only cause damage to the individual rather than actually solving a problem.)

1) Publishing and distribution overheads can be so low that they are near neglible, yet we are charged roughly the same as if we were to receive the physical product.

2) Publishing and distribution is now accessible to us all, we can all put our content out there, many of us have the software required to effectively have a reasonable home studio and increasingly independent talent is rising, with the art form rather than profit as their primary motivation.

3) This (Point 2 above) means the market is immediately saturated due to the slew of new, independent and often free content. The sheer scale of it has diminished the publicly perceived value of a single audio track to <20% of what it was 5 years ago. The market has expanded but the RIAA/IFPI/BPI/etc refuse to accept the devaluing of their product and continue to rip consumers off (just like the did with price-fixing a few years back – which in the UK … We were never even offered compensation for this thievery, like they were offered in the US!!)

4) The IFPI/BPI are yet to produce any empirical evidence of their claims of loss. They try to convince MPs that every downloaded track equates to one loss, the thing is: this thinking is flawed and any statistics based on this premise are therefore also flawed… as is any decision MPs will make upon these damned statistical misrepresentations.

Being from the side of the movie house in the 80′s we used to prevent people from brining in outside food. We would tell people with big purses and bags that they could leave it at the entry way…the reason…movies MAKE NO MONEY FOR THE CINEMAS.

Let me say that again…opening weeks the movie studios make up to 80% of the gross from ticket sales for movies, so after taxes, ticket prices mostly go to the studios.

The main revenue stream for movies cinemas is through their concession stands and they have a value of revenue per person that all theatre try to uphold because the movie is just to get the people in the door as they don’t get anything (or almost nothing from the movie itself).

RPP for a good theatre was between $2-$3.50 per person…that ment that one person out of two would buy a popcorn and drink or whatever to make up that value.

When you look at movie theatres, they are their just to sell the confection to the attendance but need the movies to pull in those people to buy them….

Just think why all theatres now are “movie destinations” instead of movie theatres…they have mini golf, arcades, restaurants, etc…

Movies don’t bring in the money to the local economy…only the confections do.

So basically the movie theatres are paying studios to play the movies in the theatres so they can make a buck at the confection stand…

full disclosure.

I think the focal point can be adjusted after the fact with some clever math algorithms and the noise can be reduced using other footage to sample certain areas to discover which pixel appears at that point more times.

Then they will have to ban cellphones, because if you go with 10 friends you could possible end up with a very good copy at the end LoL

They are wasting their times, some day people will be using glasses to superimpose images directly onto their real lifes(augmented reality) and we all will be using equipment capable of recording everything, will the industry says it have the right to charge every living person in the world then?

Intermission.

Part 2;
Regurgitated movie themes and plots, *yawn*, so boring, remakes of old classics which are a blight on the original, overpaid actors which can’t act, exorbitantly priced theater tickets and DVD’s.
The third world Island where I live has DVD’s for purchase at 1$, yes they’re copies but they work fine and are priced realistically for content…Hollywood should be renamed to Hollytrash.

My local Cineworld is so badly thought out that you needn’t even bother to buy tickets for half of the screens as they are accessed via stairs from their bar and there has never been anyone there to check tickets let alone check if you have a laptop!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1220798/Lily-pink-Miss-Allen-brightens-night-new-love.html

“I’ve cut myself off from the internet too – you get into another world that’s not real and I want to live in this one. I’m not a monk, but I’m busy.” says Busy Lilly

However, in the present day where many movies will leave a particular theatre within 4 weeks and be on DVD in 4 months, they may only make %30 percent of that ticket price in that last week. Thusly, to stay in business they rely on people buying concessions. To keep their income the price of soda and popcorn has increased because just like any other business, they’re not going to lose money for their stockholders and/or start firing all their employees.

In summary:
Want to screw a studio? Don’t buy a ticket. But don’t expect them to like you stealing.

Want to screw a theatre? Don’t buy concessions. But don’t expect them to let you bring your own stuff in with open arms.

“I think the reason behind that is, they don’t allow people to bring their own food and drinks because they then won’t buy from the snack counter, thus they actually lose money. I don’t think cams directly hurt them financially as much. Some People want to watch crappy cams to see if the movie is worth going to the theater.”

No, if you take a drink in with you they don’t lose any money. They just don’t gain *extra* money from you on top of the extortionate ticket price. But then there is no guarantee they would have made money from you through sales of drinks anyway. When I go to a cinema I don’t buy any of their snacks or drinks because of the over inflated prices. So if i took my own it wouldn’t make the slightest bit of difference to the cinema’s finances.

1) Buy a 50″ flat screen LCD or Plasma HD TV.
2) Buy a dual/quad core computer system.
3) Install an HD video card with HDMI out on your computer and plug that in to your HD TV.
4) Buy an awesome 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound system.
5 Install a surround sound card with coax or optical out and plug that in to your awesome sound system.
6) Run out and purchase a leather sofa and love seat, snacks and drinks.
7) Download the MKV codecs and a juicy blu-ray ripped MKV file of your choice.
8) Call up your best friends and family.
9) Enjoy the FREE movie in HD, surround sound, cheap snacks, with good friends in the comfort of your very own home.

This is exactly what I do. It sure beats the theatre EVERYTIME. No wondering if you’re being watched, no creepy people with night vision goggles watching you, no one inspecting or confiscating your valuable property.

Now THAT’S the way to go!

Losing money = ending up with less money than you originally had, NOT ending up with less money than you originally expected, but still more money than you originally had.

What they’re bitching about is a lower profit margin. I say, fuck them.

If there were no bootleggers and pirates fundamentally rejected all these sub-dvd quality rips, the film industry won’t even bother to release R5.

Most theaters have you buy a ticket before you can get in so they make money on the movie itself. But, food and drinks being brought in is more of a problem than video recording devices. They already get payed for the movie when people buy tickets, but they make less when people don’t buy their overpriced food and drinks.

“a fella on slashdot were i saw this story yesterday went the cinema with his hd cams and digital camera he was stoped by these louts would not let in. and why you ask well would you believe they did not mind his cams but didn’t want him taking a drink in.”

I think the reason behind that is, they don’t allow people to bring their own food and drinks because they then won’t buy from the snack counter, thus they actually lose money. I don’t think cams directly hurt them financially as much. Some People want to watch crappy cams to see if the movie is worth going to the theater.

Movie theaters like to hire teenagers mostly. In 2007 I had a job interview at a movie theater in Arizona. I was out of work at the time. For some reason the guy who interviewed me stated that they have young people as managers and asked if I would have a problem taking orders from someone younger than me. I said I didn’t have a problem with that. I was 27 years old at the time. I never did hear back from them, probably ’cause they had only a couple positions opened and had alot of interviews. I’m also guessing I was too old for the job.

I bet if the guy left his laptop with the management, they might have turned it on to see what he had on it. You can’t trust strangers with stuff as important as a laptop.

what about mobile phones whould of thought they posed more of threat.

a fella on slashdot were i saw this story yesterday went the cinema with his hd cams and digital camera he was stoped by these louts would not let in. and why you ask well would you believe they did not mind his cams but didn’t want him taking a drink in.

That, and the fact that you have to put up with other people if you see it in a movie theater.

in the past 8 years, there have been thousands of movies I would rather download (and have). Not worth a penny.

I’m about ready to boycott the MPAA in it’;s entirety, anyway. Movies are all reused old crap.

I simply refuse to see movies in theater because of the price they charge. I’ll rarely make an exception when a group of friends go to one but I cannot justify paying $10.00 for a two hour entertainment that contains an additional 25% of ads.

They’re greedy and I have no problem viewing movies weekly if they’d make it manageable. You can’t tell me that people are losing jobs because of pirating. When I download my movie I deprive them of $15-$20. When they pay Brad Pitt $2.5M+…. you can figure out the rest.

R5 is a region and they only use cam audio when there is no LiNE audio available.

CAM = camera records both audio and video.

Telesync = camera records video and a direct source is used to record audio.

Moreover, even the moment; the entertainment industries totally refuse to show any reliable and conclusive evidence that could support its claims about “supposed” lost sales, because there don’t exist any.

That all us if know very well are the reports of massive billion dollars profits that the movie industries have made in the last two years together (2007-2008).

As I already have said in other discussions…. All these false claims from the entertainment industries are simply a conspiracy of lies for taking away elemental civil rights from the people (in this case the inalienable right to share culture and information with others) and convert it in a lucrative and expensive business, that’s all.