Comments on: Linking to P2P Downloads Confirmed Legal in Spain

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:40:29 +0000

” 14 Sep 19, 2008 at 15:18 by Anonymous

This decision tells that the courts are not entirely corrupt, and that it is very much worth it to fight for legalizing P2P.

Roze
http://www.28chan.org/apstdt/
”

P2P is not illegal – it’s what we do with it that people see as the problem. For every person sharing a free Linux distro they would like to say there are a thousand ‘stealing’ the latest Hollywood re-hash of something that was once good. If the movie companies could learn to keep up with the times there wouldn’t be a problem. At the moment it seems to be all about profit rather than delivering good content so for now, as far as I can see, if they’re dumb and rich enough that they can afford to pay someone $47,000,000 to ‘star’ in a movie, then f**k ‘em…

By: aljuk

aljuk — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:15:51 +0000

It’s days like this that make me feel glad I live in… Spain! haha

By: http://backdoorr.blogspot.com

http://backdoorr.blogspot.com — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:03:19 +0000

Take that media giants!

By: LawlzMan

LawlzMan — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:54:14 +0000

jesus this is getting rediclous i forgot downloading/uploading media kills someone everyday, you know b/c there are gangstas with machine guns who are watching over avi files for dear life!! Inside the US has there even been any convictions for downloading anything that wasnt for kazaa p2p programs?? I havnt seen much on torrents or warez i think one on torrents but never on warez!

By: MPAA

MPAA — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:23:25 +0000

FUCK YEAH, SEAKING!

By: EaGle1337

EaGle1337 — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:02:13 +0000

awesome tbp for ever (well not literally) but i think the beackon of torrents is thepiratebay and if they fall it’d be a huge precedent, things are looking up with linking to pirated content being legal in spain.

By: MamaPapaXP

MamaPapaXP — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:01:40 +0000

@47
Are you crazy? You are referring to one of the oldest countries in the world that had one of the first truly ‘global’ empires. It gave rise to two of the most infamous Popes, and at least one genuine anti-Pope. They have one of the richest histories of art, architecture and culture in general. Thanks to Spain, over 350 million people speak Castilian Spanish, which has survived for over 800 years and is now the second most used language in the world today. The ‘great’ United States of America and many other genuinely great American nations, known as the New World, were discovered and colonized by the Spanish. It’s history, while bloody, is rich and is still ongoing. Recently Spain became the first country in the world to grant full marriage AND adoption rights to gay couples.
Whatever you might think, it cannot be in doubt that Spain is in the First World, while the United States is in the Second World.
I am not Spanish, do not live in Spain and cannot even speak their language, but I am also not ignorant.

By: P!nk Pr!nce

P!nk Pr!nce — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:24:34 +0000

I wonder how many servers will move to spain now!

By: Gio

Gio — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:42:02 +0000

err… someone should really take care of spammy comments

By: tony

tony — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:11:52 +0000

Feel comfortable with the possibility of starting an age-gap relationship in a community where people think just like you. Recapture some of your youth and try striking up a relationship, whether romantic or just friendship, with a yonger someone! __Agelessdate.c om__ is your cupid!

By: sunseeker

sunseeker — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:59:11 +0000

Lets all move to Spain

By: lolwut

lolwut — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:35:26 +0000

america first world? 5% inflation, 10 times the murder rate of civilized countries, people starving all the time because there is no social security?

By: Paul

Paul — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:23:05 +0000

@47, America is head there pretty fast! Enjoy your depression.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:35:44 +0000

@42 you are wrong, as i said several times in my blog (putasgae.info) we are paying a tax for every cd/dvds/etc.. because of your right to make a a legal private copy.

By: Luis

Luis — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:46:34 +0000

@47 Sure. You, citizen of a first world country, can come here and taste our third world historical monuments, our third world culture and museums and, of course, our third world beautiful girls, food and sunny weather. Or maybe you just can stay in your own first world country (who cares?)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:19:41 +0000

Spain is a third world country, so who cares?

By: Juan

Juan — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:57:43 +0000

I know where i will host my torrent site http://www.torrentin.com from now on. Time to leave the USA!

By: Bryan

Bryan — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:45:07 +0000

¡Vive España!

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:54:32 +0000

Finally, some sense appears in the law courts. Spain should be proud.

By: Sissy

Sissy — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:42:42 +0000

My friend recommended me a very interesting place ___ “”" BillionaireCupid.com “”" ___ It’s where wealthy singles looking for younger unattached people to

enjoy their wealthy lifestyle with.

By: ftn

ftn — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:12:11 +0000

“But still can the law charge the downloaders?”
Certainly not in Spain, we pay some kind of tax every time we buy a cd, hard disk, cell phone, etc that goes directly to the Spanish RIAA, but that enables us to use p2p legally.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:02:37 +0000

“But still can the law charge the downloaders?”

Copyright infringement is illegal mostly everywhere and that is unlikely to change. Legalisation of linking to files that link to files is a worthy shorter term goal.

By: Ray

Ray — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:41:39 +0000

Good news for sites providing P2P links. But still can the law charge the downloaders?

By: Norm

Norm — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:57:27 +0000

@38 You make a great point, but I don’t think we should ignore this important gain. After all, we know the riaa, mpaa, ifpi, ect all want to make filesharing a criminal offense (look at what they want in ACTA). It’s nice to see one country stand up to them. Perhaps more will follow Spain’s example.

By: Triptophano

Triptophano — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:57:37 +0000

Well before we start sucking each other dicks it would be good to consider that the court ruling only asserted that there was no CRIMINAL offence.

Meaning that there may still be civil actions against the site and even if those cannot put you in jail they can be pretty damaging all by themselves.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:41:42 +0000

Bad news. Should be illegal.

By: Bristol

Bristol — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:46:45 +0000

I would like to mention the other lawyer in the case: Javier de la Cueva http://derecho-internet.org

By: Crynsos

Crynsos — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:36:22 +0000

Sounds like a bright light of sure hope, which cannot be darkened by the copyright embracing devils… in short, sounds like damn good news…

By: PS

PS — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:56:25 +0000

just wondering what are the laws in the U.S.? on the one hand torrent searching sites are beeing fined 110 millions (for linking to links oO) on the other hand some very large warez boards are hosting in the U.S. seems weird to me …

By: Barse

Barse — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:43:54 +0000

@17

Sytembolaget is the only shop allowed to sell liquor. Liquor can still be purchased in a pub or restaurant.

By: ay ay ay me gusta

ay ay ay me gusta — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:42:29 +0000

spain = epic win filesharing country

By: Barse

Barse — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:41:55 +0000

There aren’t many countries remaining in Europe that are fortunate enough to not be members of the EU. The most important ones are Iceland, Norway and Switzerland. There are no others that are of any economic consequence.

By: YaY

YaY — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:34:47 +0000

Epic Fail anyone ?

UK, Germany, France, are you ready to go the limit? Time for the EU Courts to earn its money !

By: hmm

hmm — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:23:30 +0000

does this mean hosting a warez-site with rapidshare links or bittorrent site is legal in spain now?

By: zigzag

zigzag — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:13:40 +0000

And running an eDonkey server has also been confirmed legal recently, in Germany this time: Court: Edonkey server admin not liable for infringement. w00t! :)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:45:43 +0000

WOW – some sense

By: Killer Tree

Killer Tree — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:44:30 +0000

w00t, but if most sites move their servers to Spain then what will the MAFIAA do with all their takedown notices and fancy lawers?!?! Poor guys might lose their jobs, be unemployed, and might have to resort to P2P to see movies and get software because they’ll be too poor to buy it… That would be *horrible* ;-)

By: Giorgi

Giorgi — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:39:29 +0000

If hosting companies of one country could team up and win one court case, they would all gain by all the torrent trackers moving to them and from those who plan to start new tracker.

a thought.

By: Forky

Forky — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:38:27 +0000

@Test0

Nope, we don’t. The european union have much to say about imports/exports, use of chemicals, agriculture, working conditions and stuff like that. But
every country have their own laws. I who live in Sweden do personaly hope that our courts gives the same resault though.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:16:45 +0000

p2p is for n o 0 bz

By: JOhn thomas

JOhn thomas — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:11:54 +0000

OUtstanding! Link away folks! Link away!

JIff
http://www.anonymize.us.tc

By: Fishy

Fishy — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:38:55 +0000

So does this mean that the legal risk factor is super-low if a BT tracker is hosted in Spain?

By: Fabian

Fabian — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:08:33 +0000

Awesome! The hydra’s growning new heads.

By: Dude

Dude — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:02:45 +0000

Hah, take that media giants!

By: oliver

oliver — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:52:56 +0000

#3 But surely Systembolaget is not the only seller of liquor? I bought Jack Daniels whiskey’s in Stockholm bars while there with colleagues back in July, because they came at the same price as a large beer. To put it simply: I don’t understand Sweden’s system at all.

By: The Question

The Question — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:44:44 +0000

The big question really is if they take the case to the European Courts of Justice.

I doubt Spain has an opt out on Copyright law or directives relating to it.

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:35:01 +0000

Yea for Spain!

Time to brush up on Spanish lessons and check out web hosting!

By: Keyman30

Keyman30 — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:31:00 +0000

Great news!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:18:12 +0000

This decision tells that the courts are not entirely corrupt, and that it is very much worth it to fight for legalizing P2P.

Roze
http://www.28chan.org/apstdt/

By: Jasper van Weerd

Jasper van Weerd — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:59:10 +0000

Lets get all hosting of torrent trackers to spain ASAP!