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		<title>By: Carl Goss</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s true that a lot of the Usenet sites are now empty.   I&#039;m not all that knowledgeable about internet technology, but I think that a workaround will be found and that the rockhound-type uploaders  will be at it again.      Overseas areas where US law doesn&#039;t apply  and were local authorities don&#039;t really care about copyright issues could be a source of new uploads.  Then all you have to worry about is your server simply deciding not to carry that particular alt.binaries.e-books. Whatever.   Not that I would ever download copyrighted material! 


Los Angeles]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true that a lot of the Usenet sites are now empty.   I&#8217;m not all that knowledgeable about internet technology, but I think that a workaround will be found and that the rockhound-type uploaders  will be at it again.      Overseas areas where US law doesn&#8217;t apply  and were local authorities don&#8217;t really care about copyright issues could be a source of new uploads.  Then all you have to worry about is your server simply deciding not to carry that particular alt.binaries.e-books. Whatever.   Not that I would ever download copyrighted material! </p>
<p>Los Angeles</p>
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		<title>By: Aristotle</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, we want all poor people to have very high levels of knowledge, skill and talent in their brain, so we can employ them for peanuts. In India, south america, anywhere. The more 3d graphics experts we have, and the more self-learned they are, the cheaper they will be for are to us. 



Now every block has true experts in audio, video, etc, some are so good in their teens, they could work for Hollywood tomorrow. With the low investment in tools, books, software, and education, they will accept very low rates. Piracy helps big business and it doesn&#039;t really help the companies that produce the products because they build a customer base without even paying extra money for marketing and bandwidth. We do the same to sell our culture to you, Hollywood films, series, etc. Piracy is what expanded Hollywood and American Software, and that&#039;s why we tolerate it. Now, that it&#039;s in your brain and a tool you need in your work, we may stop piracy. But only in europe, america, etc. We don&#039;t want to do that yet in india, china, etc. We want to grow in these countries.



We do not want poor people to be smart though. That&#039;s not acceptable. But everything else is &quot;pirated&quot; for you guys to study and learn. OK? Critical knowledge and philosophy? No. You will have to dig for that, and most of the modern stuff is nonsense anyway. If you want to be smart you will read everything Aristotle Organon, Politics, Ethics, Rhetorics before you even finish high-school or take any hobby seriously. Then you will start thinking about changing things and perhaps understand what piracy is.


Piracy is 30% of what what build USA as you Americans know it. Read some history. &quot;Borrowing&quot; methods without licensing, intellectual property, machine designs, etc. Another 30% is money from illegal activities, and some of thee activities were made illegal on purpose. These things brought the money to those that build you nation. There is of course the &quot;borrowing&quot; of other resources, and that was what slavery was about, which contributed the final 40%.


Can you now understand why India and China love piracy and hate intellectual property? That&#039;s what USA did in the past to gain an advantage. That&#039;s where the big fortunes came from. Your ancestors broke every possible rule on intellectual property and trade to make more money. Don&#039;t blame the new guys for something you are guilty of. Live, read, learn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, we want all poor people to have very high levels of knowledge, skill and talent in their brain, so we can employ them for peanuts. In India, south america, anywhere. The more 3d graphics experts we have, and the more self-learned they are, the cheaper they will be for are to us. </p>
<p>Now every block has true experts in audio, video, etc, some are so good in their teens, they could work for Hollywood tomorrow. With the low investment in tools, books, software, and education, they will accept very low rates. Piracy helps big business and it doesn&#8217;t really help the companies that produce the products because they build a customer base without even paying extra money for marketing and bandwidth. We do the same to sell our culture to you, Hollywood films, series, etc. Piracy is what expanded Hollywood and American Software, and that&#8217;s why we tolerate it. Now, that it&#8217;s in your brain and a tool you need in your work, we may stop piracy. But only in europe, america, etc. We don&#8217;t want to do that yet in india, china, etc. We want to grow in these countries.</p>
<p>We do not want poor people to be smart though. That&#8217;s not acceptable. But everything else is &#8220;pirated&#8221; for you guys to study and learn. OK? Critical knowledge and philosophy? No. You will have to dig for that, and most of the modern stuff is nonsense anyway. If you want to be smart you will read everything Aristotle Organon, Politics, Ethics, Rhetorics before you even finish high-school or take any hobby seriously. Then you will start thinking about changing things and perhaps understand what piracy is.</p>
<p>Piracy is 30% of what what build USA as you Americans know it. Read some history. &#8220;Borrowing&#8221; methods without licensing, intellectual property, machine designs, etc. Another 30% is money from illegal activities, and some of thee activities were made illegal on purpose. These things brought the money to those that build you nation. There is of course the &#8220;borrowing&#8221; of other resources, and that was what slavery was about, which contributed the final 40%.</p>
<p>Can you now understand why India and China love piracy and hate intellectual property? That&#8217;s what USA did in the past to gain an advantage. That&#8217;s where the big fortunes came from. Your ancestors broke every possible rule on intellectual property and trade to make more money. Don&#8217;t blame the new guys for something you are guilty of. Live, read, learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Major Book Publishers Demand Identities of Usenet Uploaders &#124; Best Seedbox</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Odd Lots &#8211; Jeff Duntemann&#039;s Contrapositive Diary</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] may be one reason why: A consortium of tech book publishers is going after two anonymous Usenet posters who have posted literally hundreds of thousands of books (including several of mine) on [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Ptricks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the libraries are next.  Those postings were not books like the latest novel , it was all technical like science and math. It benefited many people, caused some people to enter careers that they never would have otherwise and spread knowledge to 3rd world areas where they can&#039;t pay a months salary for a book.  In a lot of ways it was a lot like the internet was supposed to be for the world. A place you could learn and gain knowledge instead of all the spam, ads , social garbage, that makes the internet look like a tabloid newspaper. 

What companies like McGraw-Hill are upset about is not being able to sell their book for $200 after they paid off schools and universities to use their material. Material that often isn&#039;t worth $20.



Rockhound, I do not know you but if they do come after you, don&#039;t worry, I and others will help all we can either through defense funds or moral support. What you did has benefited many and we will not forget that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the libraries are next.  Those postings were not books like the latest novel , it was all technical like science and math. It benefited many people, caused some people to enter careers that they never would have otherwise and spread knowledge to 3rd world areas where they can&#8217;t pay a months salary for a book.  In a lot of ways it was a lot like the internet was supposed to be for the world. A place you could learn and gain knowledge instead of all the spam, ads , social garbage, that makes the internet look like a tabloid newspaper. </p>
<p>What companies like McGraw-Hill are upset about is not being able to sell their book for $200 after they paid off schools and universities to use their material. Material that often isn&#8217;t worth $20.</p>
<p>Rockhound, I do not know you but if they do come after you, don&#8217;t worry, I and others will help all we can either through defense funds or moral support. What you did has benefited many and we will not forget that.</p>
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		<title>By: Forkingham Melle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 08:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are more of us copyright haters, than those copyright lovers. nothing will change that. as libraries close more poor revert to digital books for their education and leisure reading. stop that and pay us the authors publishers cry. fuck off i hear universally replied.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are more of us copyright haters, than those copyright lovers. nothing will change that. as libraries close more poor revert to digital books for their education and leisure reading. stop that and pay us the authors publishers cry. fuck off i hear universally replied.</p>
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		<title>By: PelouzeTF</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I assume you&#039;re talking about Australians&lt;/i&gt;

Not specifically


&lt;i&gt;where the piracy rate is through the roof. Sure... ALMOST identical release schedule as the US of A.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t get the Australian programming I like straight away either, doesn&#039;t mean 1 minute after release in Australia I justify infringing on the creators copyright because &quot;they didn&#039;t get it to me instantly which means I&#039;m entitled to act like a big fucking impatient baby&quot; ;)

&lt;i&gt;Oh, PelousyTF. You so funneh... If an amateur could release a pirated copy as early as an hour after the US release, companies have no excuse for delays except corporate greed.&lt;/i&gt;

Amateurs (and by that I assume you mean pirates lol) don&#039;t have to concern themselves with anything apart from uploading what they just copied and waiting for pats on the back from anonymous downloaders saying &quot;you awesome bro&quot; lol. It&#039;s a little more complicated than that in the real world but no matter how many steps are taken to deliver a product, it will never be enough for the entitled people of the world. There will always be something that doesn&#039;t meet their &quot;exacting standards&quot;. Standards that they of course in no way live up to themselves ;)


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I assume you&#8217;re talking about Australians</i></p>
<p>Not specifically</p>
<p><i>where the piracy rate is through the roof. Sure&#8230; ALMOST identical release schedule as the US of A.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get the Australian programming I like straight away either, doesn&#8217;t mean 1 minute after release in Australia I justify infringing on the creators copyright because &#8220;they didn&#8217;t get it to me instantly which means I&#8217;m entitled to act like a big fucking impatient baby&#8221; ;)</p>
<p><i>Oh, PelousyTF. You so funneh&#8230; If an amateur could release a pirated copy as early as an hour after the US release, companies have no excuse for delays except corporate greed.</i></p>
<p>Amateurs (and by that I assume you mean pirates lol) don&#8217;t have to concern themselves with anything apart from uploading what they just copied and waiting for pats on the back from anonymous downloaders saying &#8220;you awesome bro&#8221; lol. It&#8217;s a little more complicated than that in the real world but no matter how many steps are taken to deliver a product, it will never be enough for the entitled people of the world. There will always be something that doesn&#8217;t meet their &#8220;exacting standards&#8221;. Standards that they of course in no way live up to themselves ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Major Book Publishers Demand Identities of Usenet Uploaders&#124; The Torrent Guy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ThisSucksBalls</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More childish insults? You&#039;re such a cry baby...]]></description>
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		<title>By: BuddhaFacePalmed</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Even with legitimate music download sites, streaming movie sites, almost identical release schedules for very popular shows in countries where illegal downloading was high, pirates continue to download in ever increasing numbers whilst continuing to use the same old excuses (or just change to different ones) each time content creators try to meet needs.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I assume you&#039;re talking about Australians, where the piracy rate is through the roof. Sure... &lt;b&gt;ALMOST&lt;/b&gt; identical release schedule as the US of A. 

Oh, PelousyTF. You so funneh... If an amateur could release a pirated copy as early as an hour after the US release, companies have no excuse for delays except corporate greed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i><b>Even with legitimate music download sites, streaming movie sites, almost identical release schedules for very popular shows in countries where illegal downloading was high, pirates continue to download in ever increasing numbers whilst continuing to use the same old excuses (or just change to different ones) each time content creators try to meet needs.</b></i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I assume you&#8217;re talking about Australians, where the piracy rate is through the roof. Sure&#8230; <b>ALMOST</b> identical release schedule as the US of A. </p>
<p>Oh, PelousyTF. You so funneh&#8230; If an amateur could release a pirated copy as early as an hour after the US release, companies have no excuse for delays except corporate greed.</p>
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