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Massive Copyright Infringement Suit Could Collapse Cyberlocker, Studio Warns

The plaintiffs in a massive copyright infringement lawsuit against a cyberlocker service are warning users of the site to back up their files. Corbin Fisher, the movie studio currently suing Oron for $34.8m, say that the file-hoster could collapse after a judge denied it access to additional funds to pay for their hosting. Is this another Megaupload-style data loss debacle in the making?

Less than two weeks ago, adult studio Corbin Fisher sued the operators of file-hosting service Oron for a cool $34.8 million, claiming that they induce the sharing of copyright infringing via their service.

“Oron is cognizant of its role as the vehicle in which infringers act in concert with one another to copy and distribute huge amounts of infringing material,” Corbin Fisher’s lawyers wrote, adding that since Oron only registered a DMCA agent in June 2011, it could not seek ‘safe harbor’ immunity for infringements made before that date.

The immediate effects of the suit were highly damaging for Oron. All company assets in the U.S. and Hong Kong were frozen and payment processors such as PayPal were ordered to stand down. Additionally, the file-hoster’s domain registrar was told to forbid any transfer of the Oron.com domain.

Of course, having no cash is a serious issue for any business, so Oron went back to court to ask for funds to be released to pay for legal expenses and operating costs. The file-hoster asked for roughly $375,000, but Judge Gloria M. Navarro couldn’t see her way clear to granting the full amount.

“Defendants do not provide any itemization or accounting for the Court to consider in making its determination if the amount requested is reasonable. Therefore, the Court authorizes $100,000 U.S. dollars to be released from Defendant’s PayPal account,” Navarro said.

But quickly Oron were back again asking for more money – $355,000 in total. The company said that it needed to pay its hosting company, Netherlands-based LeaseWeb, $75,000 by last evening plus an additional payment of $280,000 by next Monday.

While Corbin Fisher’s language towards Oron has been predictably aggressive, comments and accusations leveled at LeaseWeb are bound to raise eyebrows. Challenging Oron’s need to make such large payments to LeaseWeb, Corbin Fisher’s lawyers directly accused LeaseWeb of conspiracy and/or extortion.

“The evidence put forth by [Oron] shows that these expenses fall far outside of the norm for the industry. Something is amiss. Either Oron is fabricating this newfound need for hundreds of thousands of dollars or LeaseWeb is conspiring with Oron,” XBIZ reports.

“Logic suggests that LeaseWeb is either colluding with Oron to assist Oron in removing hundreds of thousands of dollars from this court’s jurisdiction; extorting Oron; or Oron is not being entirely forthcoming with the court,” Corbin’s lawyers said.

And the criticism of LeaseWeb didn’t stop there. An investigator for the studio said that LeaseWeb is known to “…ignore DMCA notices or at the very least, minimize their impact.”

But Friday brought more bad news for Oron. Judge Gloria Navarro denied the request for extra funds, despite Oron’s warnings that without them their business would not be able to continue.

“If Oron’s servers are shut down for non-payment of those monthly hosting fees its users – 99.9 percent of whom have no connection to this litigation – will lose access to their data,” the company’s lawyers wrote.

Liberty Media, the owners of Corbin Fisher, were quick to pile on the pressure.

“This leads us to believe that Oron neither maintains nor is instituting any backup of user data. Therefore, if there are any legitimate users of Oron out there, Liberty Media Holdings advises them to back up any important files for which they are the proper owner or licensee,” the company wrote in a press release.

So while the lawyers fight, what we appear to be witnessing here is another Megaupload data-loss debacle in the making, in which completely innocent individuals could lose access to their cloud-stored data due to someone else’s legal problems.

But perhaps what is of most concern to Joe Public right now is that despite warning the court that without funds the site could close, Oron have zero warnings on their site or information on the issues the company faces.

Of course, there’s a fine line between causing panic and keeping people informed, and indeed the company may be quietly confident that it will ride out the storm, but people should have the option to take precautionary backups, However, they won’t do that if they don’t think anything is amiss.

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  • lovmega

    Well .. We will see about that .. First let us settle the megaupload case..

    • Guest

      Irrelevent to the comment but thought some people may be interested in this video;
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzU76vRsZeE
      “Big ‘black box’ bro to spy on UK mail & phones”Where is Vendetta when you need him? :-

      • http://nipp.me/205 Wendy Dillinger

        providing the funds didn’t go to Oron, other than those needed for it’s defense, what is the problem?  http://FoxGetPositionWork.blogspot.com

      • http://twitter.com/CynthiaJParker Cynthia J. Parker

        talk about boosting lost revenue …. you are the real thief mister gay fisher . http://FoxGetPositionWork.blogspot.com

      • MEGA-joint

        Rupert Murdoch must be laughing his ass off. Now he doesn’t need a PI to do the dirty work.
         

    • Guest

      No. The best defense is offense. Lets’ kill Corbin Fisher and level their installation to the ground. Every one must admit that these assholes deserve it.
       

  • No One

    lease web is not an american company and therefore not subject to the american law (dcma). how dare non american companies expect american copyright holders use the appropriate laws 

    • Guest

      But its ok for American copyright holders to use the Feds to get Megaupload a non American company and therefore not subject to American law in being shut down.

      sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm.

    • Kim Jong Thrillz

       Well that’s exactly what SOPA was supposed to “fix”, by allowing American courts to forbid American business (ie. VISA, Mastercard, Paypal, etc) from doing business with a particular website. Make it impossible for the site to move or receive money and you shut down the website, and you don’t even have to go through a lengthy court battle to do it.

      SOPA failed, but this idea is already back in a bill called PIPA. And if that one fails it’ll show up yet again in a third bill, and on it goes until someone manages to ram it through. Democracy in action!

  • 0omg

    34.8m on gay porn …. talk about boosting lost revenue …. you are the real thief mister gay fisher ….

    • Apex

      Oh the irony!  Long ago, when I was a kid, a company like this would be in court for one reason only; to be prosecuted for making or even possessing obscene material.  And the people involved would have gone to jail, for years. Now the very same courts are defending the rights of these folks to destroy others and allowing them to enforce the law, not as it is, but as they feel it should be.  And as each passing day makes it easier to access pornographic movies their value drops and the producers will be put out of business not by the censor but by the market.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Years ago, we had idiots who thought that they had the right to tell other people what is ‘obscene’. Today, most people say “It’s in the eye of the beholder!” and tell those busybodies to butt out like they should.

        • Asdf

           and the beholders go around suing everyone because their eyes and business models are more important than everything else

    • InLordITrust

      Not that the world isnt already fucked up but Gay Fagets getting a service shut down and demanding 34.8 mil, lets see what the bible has to say about this.

       the most obvious part of the bible where it states that is leviticus 18:22. It reads something like “Man shall not lie down with another man. In the lord’s eyes, it is an abomination”.

      The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:24-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

      Matthew 7:21-22
      21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?

      Ephesians 4:21-23
      21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind

      If God had intended the human race to be fulfilled through both heterosexual and homosexual marriage, He would have designed our bodies to allow reproduction through both means and made both means of sexual intercourse healthy and natural. Homosexual anal intercourse carries a high risk of disease, this is recognized in Scripture where gay men are said to receive in their bodies the due penalty for their error (Romans 1:27).

      Various studies indicate that homosexual behavior makes both men and women more vulnerable to disease and decreases lifespan.

      So there u have it, if Oron is shut down due to these gay fagets, then this is truely a mockery of the Bible and not that they are already choosing to openly mock the bible, they are also extorting the courts by producing damnation material and trying to spread it to the world, trying to get people to accept it as normal,as well as extort the court system by shutting down a legal business due to their wicked, perverse nature. Can  u say a race to get to hell or trying to get the worst seat/level there?

      • GayLord

        Yeah, but the bible is gay!

        • Contempt

           Yep, as gay as a catholic priest injecting god in a kids ass.

      • Klka

        Yep.
        Making money out of gay porn is evil, for the bible tell so.
        Hosting gay porn for free is good, for the bible tell so.

      • Jg10021

         Dear Lord, other than the sections which you copy and paste from other documents, you’re essentially illiterate.

  • Anonymous

     the biggest problem atm is the Judge. if she exercised some common sense, she would have allowed the funds to be paid, not to Oron, but directly to LeaseWeb. there is a difference between allowing a company to cease to trade and allowing customers of a company to be damaged as well. providing the funds didn’t go to Oron, other than those needed for it’s defense, what is the problem? i bet there will eventually be a release of cooperation again between the entertainment industries and the courts against a business because that business isn’t liked by the industries. after the complete fuck up so far with the Mega case, i would have thought that any judge associated with this type of litigation would have been very cautious. going after a company is one thing harming customers is another, especially when there is an on-going case in court atm of people trying to get their personal data back. if the intention of the US government is to stop cloud services in favour of the entertainment industries, they are on course for doing a good job of it. if that isn’t the aim, they have a weird way of showing it!

  • Jilm

    Obviously the judge is corrupt to the core. She likely receives bribes from the entertainment industry.

  • Guda

    Gloria M. Navarro  is a corrupt asslicking bribed bitch. She deserves cancer.

    • Nas

       another point to consider is that most courts,judges, and etc have no idea what the interent is, how ppl use it, and just rule in ignorance of what is going on around them. There are the exceptions but they are rare.

      • Guest

        i dont believe that how can you say that judges dont know what internet is… ofc they know what it is… show me case link to website that tells that courts judges dont know what internet is.

  • theonlyone

    Whether its a criminal case or a civil law suit the file hosters stand little chance of surviving. Looks like the ass nazis (maffia) have started a war against cyberlockers.

  • henreeG

    I don’t understand why they are being sued… anyone care to explain? Terms of Service [ 
    http://oron.com/tos.html  clearly states that no copyright material can be uploaded unless you’re the author.

    Are they going after Dropbox next? Google Drive?

    • 0omg

      they will go after bank safety box in case we hide something copyrighted there …. 

      • henreeG

        I still don’t see the case. wow

        • Anyone

          it’s greed and corruption, simple

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  • GUEST

    Oron has never been the smartest host anyway. Registering a DMCA agent just a year ago…What a bunch of idiots. 

    • Violated0

      You seem to overlook that even MegaUpload took several years before they because a DMCA safe-harbour company. And if you want to ask “Why?” then that is because they operate from Hong Kong where US law of course means little.

      However DMCA law has become a respected standard of fairness which is why more and more overseas companies sign up and get themselves a DMCA agent when it makes their business more legitimate.

      While it is true that one needs to be an official DMCA safe harbour company to obtain protection under this law any Judge worth their wage should still examine the company’s history to see if they operated with a DMCA intent.

      • GUEST

        No. MegaUpload and Oron is like an apple & orange comparison. MegaUpload had their DMCA Agent registered at Copyright.gov – Not last year fyi.

        It is a common courtesy (as you mentioned yourself) to have a DMCA Agent registered at Copyright.gov for the sole purpose to operate a business that’s accessible for Americans, and that Copyright Holders have a place and point to send their take down notices to. Oron didn’t and for all the wrong intentions that I do hate Fischer (and the rest of the civil lawsuit happy folks that do not actually make money), Oron deserved this.

        Oron’s owner is btw a Russian-American, which makes this civil lawsuit all the more easier.

  • Guest

    They forgot to mention LeaseWeb ignores DMCA only if they are LINKING to the materials… LeaseWeb always complies with DMCA if they are hosting the material.

    Fucking USA company thinks it have authority over the entire world. FU!

    • Guest

      If LeaseWeb is a non US company (please correct me if i am wrong) and outside the US then why should it be subject and jurisdiction and comply with American law when being subjected to do so with DCMA’s by copyright holders in America?

      • Kjdfs

        The problem isn’t with Leaseweb. The problem is with Oron not having the funds (released) to pay hosting costs with Leaseweb. This is why the Megaupload data was deleted, Megaupload didn’t have access to their own money so that they could continue to pay their hosting provides to keep their servers online.

        It’s like renting a house or a car. If you can’t pay, they’ll take it back and rent it out to someone else.

        • Guest

          “This is why Megaupload data was deleleted, Megaupload didn’t have access to their own money so that they could continue to pay their hosting provides to keep their servers online.”

          To my knowledge the Megaupload data hasn’t been deleted. The data is still on the still servers. Megauploads money has been seized and frozen by the DOJ/US government and therefore can’t be used to pay for continual use of the servers and even if Megaupload did have access to funds to pay for the servers I do not believe that the DOJ/US government will allow Megaupload to have access to the servers at all. The Megaupload data hasn’t been destroyed it is still on the servers.

  • Ishigidydigidy

    This is absolutely sickening.  It’s like a free for all fucking buffet for the greedy corps with a failing business model. 

    Finance dept: “Sir, our profits are down 20% from last year, we need to do something ro recoup the losses!”
    Boss: “SUE THE CYBERLOCKERS! THERE’S MAYBE SOMETHING, PROBABLY, ON THERE THAT MIGHT SOMEHOW BE ON THERE ILLEGALLY, MAYBE!(possibly)”

    Judge: “Okay.”

    The worst part about this whole thing isn’t that these companies aren’t US based, although that’s a WHOLE different argument I could go on about, but rather the fact that the user terms and agreement say that they the users are NOT allowed to upload the data.  I’m certain they comply with takedowns, coupled with the TOS, which should EASILY defend them in the court of law.  NO! These judges don’t know the FIRST thing about technology and are in the pockets of these digusting people.  I find it hard to believe that this will last much longer.  Somebody(AKA a judge) will stand up and say what’s wrong.  They have to, or we could see an end to the internet as we know it.

    • Frederick

      Good points. Make sure you email the European Parliament to reject ACTA, even if you aren’t European.

      This week will be a major point in history – either the end of the internet as we know it or a couple more years of (relative) freedom. The media companies want the internet to be like Cable TV – you pay for individual websites. Basic Cable gets you 100 Google searches (censored of course), Facebook, Twitter, cbs.com, and WaltDisney.com.  Upgrade that package for an extra $10.99 a month for up to 50 Youtube videos (from ‘trusted’ uploaders only!!!!) and 20MB of web storage. Everything of course will be spied on — MAFIAA will own the ISPs, they already own the legal system — pretty soon they will own us too! Spread the message to everyone you know – we must fight this because if it passes, the next bill will only build on it — tracking devices up your asses by 2050. 

      http://torrentfreak.com/this-week-we-kill-acta-or-get-locked-down-in-monopolies-for-decades-120701/

      • PasserBy

        “tracking devices up your asses by 2050.”
        hahahhaha. sadly its prolly true.

      • Ishigidydigidy

        I’ve already emailed the European Parliament.  Even though I’m a citizen of America, this decision will affect me from across the globe.  I’m hoping that we can kill this once and for all.  I believe that if we allow the internet to grow and evolve in an unhindered fashion, it can grow into something that nobody could have ever dreamed of.

  • http://twitter.com/meekcritic Meek Critic

    “The evidence put forth by [Oron] shows that these expenses fall far
    outside of the norm for the industry. Something is amiss. Either Oron is
    fabricating this newfound need for hundreds of thousands of dollars or
    LeaseWeb is conspiring with Oron,” XBIZ reports.

    He doesn’t provide proof that these expenses are unusually high for this type of Website/Service.  Wasn’t MegaUpload’s monthly hosting expenses greater than $1 Million?  Logically, the larger the Website is the greater their expenses will be. 

    • GUEST

       Of course the bill is this, but the tactics pursuit by CB’s lawyers is to shut the site down/as many servers so the site becomes inoperatable.

  • Ishigidydigidy

    They’re suing because some of there shit(which would be taken down with a simple request and is against the TOS) is on the cyberlocker servers.  Somehow that makes THEM guilty and responsible for the “lost sales”(TM), and thereby responsible to pay it back.  You don’t see a case because there IS no case.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Hit the nail on the head there. Since Oron is not based in America and have no branch office in America, they also cannot be sued under American law, so the judge should have thrown out the case right away.

  • Xi_ruler

    Another monumental overreach by U.S. jurisprudence that will force companies to move as far as possible away from America. Cloud services will be toast if held to an impossible standard of copyright standard “infringement” by the entertainment industry.

  • 7seven85

    Oron sucks anyway !! The file-sharing world and cyberlocker business will NOT be hurt and NOT be stopped because of these morons.
    Some years ago they bought some porn boards like pornbb etc etc, and it’s almost sure that the Oron operators uploaded porn on their own servers.

    • Rekrul

       Every cyberlocker service that gets shut down, makes it just a little easier for them to go after the next one.

      This attitude of “they suck, no one will miss them” is incredibly short-sighted.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        That attitude is most likely coming from a corporate shill. I use Oron on a regular basis and I have to say that they are better than or equal to Freakshare/Depositfiles/etc.

        The only hosters that are marginally better than them are Rapidgator and ufile.

        • Kidwellisacorpshill

          ok whatever dude. oron has always been slow as fuck…depositfiles was like lightning compared to that oron trash! Stop kiddin ur self kidwell

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Trash? I consistently get 100kbps speeds on Oron. If that is ‘trash’, then please sign me up for more trash.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

    “The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.” –Abraham Lincoln We should note that “repeal” is here also the same as “circumvention.” 

  • 2501

    wayy too many idots paying premium for these junk sites

  • Andrew Lee

    Online storage sites really need to set up a better way to deal with copyrighted data. There should be a neutral party that looks into them by downloading the files that are publicly available only.

    The reason I say it must be neutral is… erm well you can see what happens when the companies get takedown power.

    They cannot simply place 100% of the blame on these websites. Everyone is at fault when it comes to file sharing.
    We have the corporations running on a extremely outdated business model.
    We have file hosting sites that actually do offer some good incentives to store shit with them. “Some sites do not deal with copyright issues very good”
    We have a broken copyright system with no place in the modern age.
    We lack an actual set of guidelines to actually combat illegal file sharing.
    We have laws to combat piracy “with no actual guidelines” that are so absurd nobody can take them serious.
    We have lawmakers that churn new bills that should be a crime to even suggest.
    We let these people do such things with no real action to prevent it in the future.

    I’m sure I could think of more but that’s enough. I’m gonna get pissed off if I start thinking about how fucked up shit is. :/

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

       Nicely put (:

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      We don’t need ANY set of guidelines to combat ‘illegal filesharing’ since there is no such thing in the real world. Filesharing in most countries is a civil offense, if that, unless you are getting paid money for downloads.

      Criminal law doesn’t come into it.

      Add into this that most people have already paid for the stuff they are filesharing or downloading through cable TV subscriptions, etc. and you start to get the point.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Oron sucks anyways

    • AnimeUpYourArse

      Maybe, but I’ve heard tell that you swallow!

  • Slatan_fever

    Thanks for warn

    i’ll download the tiffany preston collection 
    before they delete it 

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  • Adultcompanyrep

    Oron is primarily a porn hosting cyberlocker. They chose to host porn because they viewed it as the least risky bc they thought no law enforcement agency was going to help the adult industry. Prior to megaupload, Oron was active on affiliate forums, pushing their program and actively engaging in discussions with the the piracy of porn.

    It should also be noted that the Oron group started stiffing their affiliates before Corbin fisher sued. Oron is a bunch of crooked thieving russian bastards and they got everything coming to them they deserve. Sometimes the people on here are so blinded to the defense of cyberlockers, they cant even see that alot of the cyberlockers do not give two shits about anything but making money and would thieve your grandmothers if they thought they could get away with it.

    • YARIGHT

      you saying your granma does pron?

    • Anon1

      You can’t spell Moron without ORON!

    • PasserBy

       Please dont thief my grandma.

    • Guest

       ”…they cant even see that alot of the cyberlockers do not give two shits
      about anything but making money and would thieve your grandmothers if
      they thought they could get away with it.”

      Hey wait…  that sounds like what the Mafiaa does.

  • Guest

    Excellent article Enigmax. Thank you!

  • Dupe

    think about what is going on here. first there was TPB. then it was other torrent sites. then it moved to individuals. then it moved to individuals listening to music. then it was weddings. then it was choirs. then it was birthday parties them it was ISPs. then it was file hosts. then it was cyberlockers. then it was anything the entertainment industries can think of. and why? because there has not been and is not any sort of consolidated effort to fight against them. as an individual, when this shit first started, i and no one really cared and no one thought things would progress to anything near the scale it has. basically we are to blame. as individuals we cant do much except complaining to those that can (ISPs for example) and trying to get them to stand together, to have a chance. until that happens, individual companies and individual industries will just be picked off one at a time until the entertainment industries have everything they want and a hell of a lot more power that they only dreamed about getting. they have managed to bribe so many governments to introduce new laws to assist them, it’s an uphill struggle, but sooner or later those governments will realise that the entertainment industries are no replacement for the innovations and new models in every other industry. fighting against ACTA shows what can be done by citizens but that is nothing compared to what amalgamating companies can do

  • YARIGHT

    everyone start uploading content you made via a graphics package doodle put text do loads upload away….and when they go and steal it sue ..pirates download and clear haha

    • PasserBy

       what? i think you need to fix ur comment, i cant udnerstand what your trying to say.

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  • Jg10021

    The studio wants to take down Oron but it really wants to get its hands on the IP addresses of uploaders AND downloaders.  It is arguing that everyone involved from resellers to those who paid for premium accounts were conspiring in this enterprise.

    Oron has to refuse that information as long as it can because they own or have financial interests in link provider sites and were likely paying others outside of the affiliate programs to upload content.

    The studio is also claiming that Oron hosts child pornography and claims they have documented links and downloads to prove it.

    Oron is almost certainly going out of business; the question is how much data they can or will or are forced to give up to allow the studio (actually, studios as many more plaintiffs will join suit shortly).

    The studios know they will get little from Oron.  But if they can get their hands on upload/download data, IP addresses, linked PayPal and other billing services accounts, etc…well, they can shake down uploaders and, for the first time with cyberlockers, those who download content as well.

    And nobody knows what data Oron has kept on file, etc. re uploads and downloads, etc..  But if they every thought it might get them off the hook in one way or another, it is safe to say they preserved some.

    Hotfile argued that it never logged downloads until after its litigation with Disney et al began.

    Who can say what’s out there?

    • Vali

       The studio is also claiming that Oron hosts child peronography and claims they have documented links and downloads to prove it.

      can they post links so others can see the info. After all childron perno is legal in most of the world, google it and u will c 4 urself.

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  • http://twitter.com/bbgameruk BBgamer

    Good. Oron sucks ass. Painfully long waiting times (Up to 20 minutes or so per file), slow download speeds, expensive premium which isn’t that great either (As so I’ve heard). Rather a better host came along instead.

    • Rekrul

       You really don’t get it, do you? You think they’re only going to shut down the services that “suck”? This is only the first step in going after them all. Get a win in court and it makes it easier to shut down the next one. And there WILL be a next one, and a next…

      • http://twitter.com/bbgameruk BBgamer

        I see your point. I’m not really a strong ambassador of any file-locker sites really, they’re all out there to make a profit and they do that by annoying users to purchase premium accounts. I am for cloud storage sites though, like DropBox/SkyDrive/Mediafire etc. who make a profit but don’t annoy the hell out of their users. There’s so many god damn file lockers that you wouldn’t know which one to purchase an account for if you tried! 

        Decentralization/P2P using Bittorent or if ever made, a newer protocol, is the way forward.

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  • Guest

    I thought cloud services were a good idea in general, a pity that  from this moment forward they will be seen as unreliable as a source for storage or backups. I mean who is to say that a cloud service could do anything to protect it’s users or there data.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      They won’t be unreliable if we get some SANE judges on the subject like the one for the MegaUpload case that realize that these companies are trying to hold these cyberlockers to an untenable and impossible standard.

      They just cannot keep copyrighted stuff off their servers, encryption of the files uploaded negates that immediately.

  • foff

    Oron is no loss to most of us as they rate one star out of 10 in the cyberlocker realm.  I don’t understand how one little company with a flaky lawsuit can basically shut down another company.  How can this company say they lost 34 million when they have probably never made that kind of money?  Except for the lawyers I don’t see any winners here.  I think Oron might be trying drain as much cash as the can out of the confiscated accounts before they shut down.  In the end the porn company will get almost nothing, the lawyer will make about .5 million or so and those trading porn will just go somewhere else to get it.  Many torrent sites are still up and kicking and I see no immediate end to cyberlockers.

    In the end no matter how much control or perceived control hollywood may gain over the net they will never succeed in improving revenues this way.  The economy on the world is about to crash big time and hollywood will see that with or without the internet there is a limit to the money they can make.  If I can’t download I will read books or start looking at the 10 lifetimes of shit I have downloaded.  If the economy does crash i might have to go to the slowest internet possible and just use the net to check email and the news.  Don’t see how the fuck benefits hollywood.  No one will give a fuck about what shows or movies they are making because no one will here about them or if they do would rather spend the money on something like food. If they even have the money.

  • TO

    ORON IS AWESOME THEY REFUSE TO DELETE GOOD PORN FILES. THATS WHY THEY ARE TAKING THEM DOWN. IM MAD. IALL THE OTHER HOSTS REMOVE THE FILES BEFORE I GET A CHANCE TO DOWNLOAD. IM CERTAINLY NOT USING THAT OLD TECHNOLOGY KNOWN AS BITORRENT. 

    • anon

       try other old technology – leave caps lock on but press shift while you writing

    • Yoii

       troll, most links i have tried to dl from oron were deleted…

  • Holly

    the porn community will be hit the most from this. there isnt really much else we can do.

  • IDIOCRACY

    who needs porn anyway? so what is the loss, zillions of other places to find porn if one really wants to. hehe

  • anon

    fight the system

    and in the mean time use namecoins and bitcoins, that will slow gvt down ;)

  • PasserBy

    i doubt that company ever even produced enough material to amount to 34m.
    i think infringement cases should just be dropped, it ISN’T illegal to infringe a copyright, as far as i remember.

  • bojangles

    gay pornographers trying to extort the russian mafia? lol have fun with that.

    • Guest

      Just hope they don’t bend over and take it lol

  • al

    I still can’t believe a buisness based on pandering and prostitution, can sue anyone. I guess it’s not prostitution or pandering if you film it, Completely absurd. How do you copyright sex?

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Pandering and prostitution? Only in your mind and personally, I feel that both of those (for anyone of any age) should be legal to do.

      It’s time to stop with the saying that people are doing something ‘wrong’ if they have sex for money. Hate to tell people, but most WIVES are doing that when you get past the whole bullshit ‘marriage’ thing today.

      • al

        So you think of your wife as a prostitue? WOW.Wives sue over thing’s,  other than copyright infringement. I see your point, but money for sex is illegal. in most places.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Not married and never will be. I personally think that marriage is for losers who are too self-worthless that they need somebody else with them 24/7 to tell them “I love you, honey!” or who are too possessive of one person.

          Secondly, need I remind that blacks having sex with whites was at one time illegal? Need I also remind that those laws were struck down on the thinking that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL to dictate to someone who they sleep with?

          I think that if someone challenged the prostitution laws based on that…… BOOM! Thrown out forever. It’s just that even prostitutes want to usually stay on the ‘down low’ and not bring themselves into the public light to make their lives easier/safer, so no one has been willing to challenge them on that as of yet.

      • Eee

         no there are tax benefits to marrying a woman, rather than not = sex 4 money look it up

  • al

    If a drug dealer films his cutomers and then pays them to be in the film is it still a crime, Or is it ART, and copyrightable.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Actually, there is a question on this subject as to whether filming someone in a sexual act in your own home is illegal or not. It is illegal to go into someone else’s home and film them. In some jurisdictions, it is legal to film them in your own home even without their knowledge because by entering your home, they give up their right to privacy once they step on your property.

      • al

        The films in question are not filmed in homes, but filmed on sets, so there is a problem with your analogy. I do enjoy your rebuttal, but you seem to be missing my point. Please keeping ducking so it passes over your head, I don’t want it to hit you.

      • al

        Just to clarify your point. it is legal to film someone on your property doing anything, But it is Illegal to share it without their permission. I say this so you don’t think it’s legal to distribue videos you might make. They are only legal in some places, but just for court. Be safe be careful.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Not so sure that it is ‘illegal to share it without their permission’, al. That only comes into play according to some people who are knowledgeable on the subject when you are selling the thing in question or showing it for money.

        • foff

          Who cares whether it is legal or not most porn is not copyrightable.

    • Lite

       acc to fbi megaupload case, because its digital or recorded, its not evidence.

  • TechnocratBildelbegGroup

    oron= useless piece of crap

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Again, only to you.

    • Anonymous

       irrelevant. if it goes down it’s another one gone. what will be next? how many have got to collapse because of he opinions of a particular industry that cant let alone wont compete, yet has to get the courts to keep propping it up? sooner or later there will be none left. when you cant use any storage services or obtain stuff from the net yourself, then you will see why all closures have to be fought against, regardless of what the content is or how good/bad the service is

  • wanditandi

    Looks like the wild west of the internet days are truly over. WOw.

    Daily-Privacy.tk

  • TrentRznor

    I WILL TAKE MY PAAAIN…INTOOO THE GREAT BELOOOWWWW

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  • Daniel

    Bullshitters are bullshitting again. All I see are a lot of mal- and misinformed lawyers who read about the MegaUpload case and, before realising that the MU case was just built on shit and will crumble soon enough, thought they could get their own one in.

    Of course after the MegaUpload case no one in their right mind would still consider cloud storage a viable backup solution. It has proven that to American lobbies and authorities, jurisdiction and collateral damage mean squat. If the MPAA and RIAA pay, laws and treaties no longer matter. If you think your files on Dropbox, SkyDrive or iCloud are any safer than on MegaUpload or Oron, you’re just kidding yourself.

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  • Guest

    If you have readed their terms of service you mighty know that their are not responsible if you lose you data or it becomes irrecoverable (like megaupload users data is now).

    But this is again case never ever make backup of files that is only in one place… always have several backups their must phycisal and in internet… if you store physical make sure that you have them in several places, never store all backups in same house, if fire starts in you house or earthquake or something else you mighty lose data so its better to have them in phycisally in diffirent places.  for example if you have permanent summer vacation place that is good place, then your parents, your friends and brothers and sisters… if we are talking really valuable stuff you mighty even consider bank safety boxes or warehouses.. (remember to have contents encrypted(true crypt is good in that) so that only you or someone with right code can open them)

    “6. Customer Data
    Customer has sole responsibility and liability for the data its stores on Oron.com’s servers. Customer controls its data through its generated link. Oron.com encourages Customer to archive its data regularly and frequently; Customer bears full responsibility for archiving its data and sole liability for any lost or irrecoverable data.Oron shall not be responsible for any lost or irrecoverable data for any reason even if Oron was notified of the possibilityof such loss and was negligent or even grossly negligent. …”

    Same sort text is on(was ,megaupload is currently dead since you cant use) megaupload service so legally they dont have to give your files back.

  • PelouzeTF

    Oron, knowingly facilitating piracy ? Leaseweb, piracy host and last minute extortionist ? Surely not

    …..oh hang on LOL

  • Mouseanony

    “An investigator for the studio said that LeaseWeb is known to “…ignore
    DMCA notices or at the very least, minimize their impact.””

    And that investigator somehow managed to make DMCA valid and legal in the Netherlands? Not quite. DMCA is exclusive to the USA and other countries have no obligations whatsoever… yet American companies think it means they own the world.

    If that investigator can’t get basic laws right, what else is he missing? I hope leaseweb sues back.

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  • http://www.fslandscapingcontractors.com/ Harriett Champagne

    it could not seek ‘safe harbor’ immunity for infringements made before that date.

  • lasthonestman

    they shouldn’t be aiding piracy .. just another bunch of thieves

  • Robert

    I wish Oron would take the position that (gay) pornography can not be copyrighted.

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