MediaDefender Hacker Speaks Out
Written by Enigmax & Ernesto on January 14, 2008In September 2007, anti-piracy company MediaDefender’s emails went public after a hacker gained access to their systems. The attacks cost the company a huge amount of money, not to mention acute embarrassment. Now the person behind the attacks speaks.
The whole Media Defender scandal needs little introduction. The anti-piracy company is incredibly unpopular with most of the file-sharing community, so when they fell victim to a hacker and their company secrets spread all over the Internet, few held much sympathy for them.
Soon it became known that a shadowy group known as MediaDefender-Defenders appeared to be behind the attack - they host the Media Defender emails on their website to this day, but little was known about the chain events, or who was behind them - until now.
In an interview with portfolio, the hacker (using the pseudonym ‘Ethan’) explains how things led up to the leak. Ethan, a polite high-school student who lives with his family, was on his Christmas break when he first gained access to the anti-piracy companies servers by exploiting a weakness in their firewall. This was the end of 2006, at a time when business was still good for Media Defender, with revenue standing at nearly $16m.
The interviewer, Daniel Roth, says he communicated with Ethan on pre-pay phone to ensure security. Meeting after school in a local bookstore, Ethan handed over a flash drive holding confidential Media Defender information, explaining that the initial security breach hadn’t amounted to much and that he had difficulty in gaining the interest of fellow hackers. However, a few months later Ethan decided to go back and take a second look - which bore more fruit - giving him access to the company’s email, it’s networked resources and even its telephone system. He then explains how he passed on some of the information to a fellow hacker who gained access to Media Defender servers and used them for denial-of-service attacks.
Logging in a handful of times each month through the summer of 2007, Ethan started to get bored with ‘Monkey Defenders’ - his pet name for the anti-piracy outfit. Deciding to go out with a bang, he and the Media Defender-Defenders gathered thousands of the company’s internal emails and published them on web.
A text file included with the emails stated: “By releasing these emails we hope to secure the privacy and personal integrity of all peer-to-peer users. The emails contains information about the various tactics and technical solutions for tracking p2p users, and disrupt p2p services,” and “A special thanks to Jay Maris, for circumventing there entire email-security by forwarding all your emails to your gmail account”
Just days later, slamming the anti-piracy company again and again seemed to be the aim of Ethan and friends, as they released a private telephone conversation with the New York attorney general’s office, a P2P tracking database, followed a few days later by all of Media Defender’s anti-piracy tools.
Ethan said that he didn’t set out to ruin Media Defender: “In the beginning, I had no motivation against Monkey Defenders” he said. “It wasn’t like, ‘I want to hack those bastards’. But then I found something, and the good nature in me said, These guys are not right. I’m going to destroy them.”
Ethan, who is now sought after by the FBI because of the leaked emails, is getting close to this goal. It all went downhill for MediaDefender after the leaks got out. In November it turned out that MediaDefender’s parent company ArtistDirect lost almost $1,000,000 because of the hack, and their stock price plunged soon after that.
To make it even worse, a week after the sensitive information was made public, the Pirate Bay launched a counterattack against their arch rival. They decided to use the information from the emails to file charges against some of MediaDefenders customers including Paramount Home Entertainment, Twentieth Century Fox and Universal Music Group for corrupting and sabotaging their BitTorrent tracker.
There is no doubt that the pirates have won this battle, and it will be very hard for MediaDefender to regain their credibility. To quote MediaDefender CEO Randy Saaf: “This is really fucked…”. Yes, I’m afraid it is Randy.
Previously: Video: How People Are Tracked Using BitTorrent
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104 Responses
1st!
Let’s hope “Ethan” doesn’t get caught.
Yes but thats just it, they won the battle, I cant see pirates winning the war :-/
Goooo Ethan lol
Unlike you el90 i can see pirates winning the war.
I love that story.
THIS IS REALLY FUCKED…
poo
If Ethan gets caught he will be thrown in jail, and they will throw the key away…
Maybe he will..
But if that happens, more and more sites/companies/etc will get taken down.
As well as this, more hackers will spawn up in Ethans (and anyone elses) place.
Its a pirate war, so it’ll never end. ;)
Go Ethan! I wish you all the luck and skill you need to keep the muppets at bay! You have done the world a service and you should be thanked, not chased by the FBI.
So THAT’S what happened.
Good luck to him.
Thank you very much Ethan, good job :)
[quote comment="263268"]Let’s hope “Ethan” doesn’t get caught.[/quote]
[quote comment="263296"]If Ethan gets caught he will be thrown in jail, and they will throw the key away…[/quote]
Not really. He will have the support of the US piracy party.
“This is really fucked…” Quite.
Fuck Media Defender (even though ‘Ethan’ already has).
Sickness is right, war on ‘piracy’ is a war that those against it cannot win, but all the pirates need to win it is get a couple of laws changed, i’m backing the pirates (obviously).
aaaaaarrrrrrr! FIRE THE EBOMB CANNONS!
I hope more hackers will follow soon by fucking over any anti-p2p companie they can.
If we arent allowed to download copyrighted material than why the hell are those fucking companies allowed to spam/flood bittorent sites with FAKE torrents and getting money for it.
Not to mention they actualy ruin people’s life with demanding big sums of money for their “ilegal activities”
FUCK media-defender and mediasentry and any other asshole companies
nit-picky note:
it says “their stock prize plunged”.
Do you mean stock price? The word could be taken out entirely, leaving you with, “their stock plunged”.
Whoop Whooop Fuck you MediaDefender people, Teaches you to skrew with the torrent community!
Top Effort Ethan!
FBI are after him?
So it’s ok for Media companies to break laws but no-one else?
Typical.
Lets keep up the fight.
Well done Ethan.
Bittorrent: New
P2P: New
Fast internet: New
Piracy: OLDER THAN GOD!!!
good job ethan. Fight action with action =]
lol
Hey you guys, Did you know that media-defender does exactly what they are fighting against –> downloading.
acording to their website you can find this piece of text:
In addition to anti-piracy solutions, MediaDefender also offers a Leak Alert service. Our industry leading Leak Team scours Newsgroups, Usenet, and BitTorrent sites to see what cracked/pirated content has most recently leaked. Upon discovery, MediaDefender will DOWNLOAD the leak and either send it or provide a secure ftp login for customers to sample the pirated material.
ethan is my hero
I agree, its a virtual war… It will never end as long as there is technology around… I love how he was only in High School though..
From reliable sources I know that MediaDefender employees released many movies illegally themselves. ;-)
“Catching” Ethan won’t do anything. For every Ethan there are a hundred John Doe’s who could do worse I’m sure.
The damage is done.
[quote comment="263413"]
The damage is done.[/quote]
@ #3- On the contrary, my doubtful friend. This war IS going to be won by the Pirate side. The industry is already showing clear signs of teetering as their revenues continue to slide and they increasingly clutch at whatever straws they can to prop themselves up in the face of a world that no longer needs their outmoded and obsolete business model.
They are being taught on a daily basis that NO ONE owns or controls a society’s entertainment or information. They can no longer hold our shared common culture for ransom.
Take a deep whiff. Smell that? It’s the smell of victory for freedom of information and it’s the smell of fear as arrogant, greedy corporate behemoths that have raped their customers for decades wake slowly up to the fact that they are dying.
Yarrr, mateys! Hoist up the sails.
Ramming speed!
“To quote MediaDefender CEO Randy Saaf: “This is really fucked…”. Yes, I’m afraid it is Randy.”
What a quote!
[quote comment="263482"]
Yarrr, mateys! Hoist up the sails.
Ramming speed![/quote]
Agreed.
Let’s speed up their demise. More power to us.
Keep up the boycott, let more people know about it, and why.
Do your part in helping P2P blossom.
fucking awsome :)
have you ever seen a cat poop
DAMNIT I FORGOT 2008
I hope we do win this war in the end. As a proud pirate, I fear the day someone nabs me, but that will not stop me from downloading. I have seen the RIDICULOUS fines these business industries have concocted. They are despicable and ruthless people to say the least. I cannot wait for them to cease chasing everyone. I will jump for joy the day these bastards wave the white flag.
I too agree a hacker gets FBI on him while companies breaking laws left and right gets almost nothing…
oh wait its America… (sorry lol!)
no right or wrong
laws are made by criminals to abuse innocent people.
man Torrentfreak, stop spamming the site :) we are still getting more then 200 hits a day, its amazing how many people have visited the site
WHAT THE FUCK! THIS ARTICLE IS BULLSHIT!
iirc, the leak happened because one of the media defender employees was found out on a tracker (likely due to his IP resolution). Apparently he used the same password for the account on the tracker that he had used for his sign up email address, a gmail account.
The admins accessed his gmail account using said password, and discoved THAT HE WAS FORWARDING ALL EMAILS TO HIS GMAIL ACCOUNT.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TEENAGE HACKER. Excuse me, but if this kid were so secure and unafraid of the FBI, would he not explain in more detail how the hack was performed than simply say “exploit in their firewall”.
Honestly, torrentfreak. You are worse than Fox.
look here:
-={ MediaDefender-Defenders }=-
Date: 2007-09-15
MediaDefender-Defenders proudly presents 9 months worth of
internal MediaDefender emails
By releasing these emails we hope to secure the privacy and
personal integrity of all peer-to-peer users. The emails
contains information about the various tactics and technical
solutions for tracking p2p users, and disrupt p2p services.
A special thanks to Jay Maris, for circumventing there entire
email-security by forwarding all your emails to your gmail
account, and using the really highly secure password: blahbob
So here it is, we hope this is enough to create a viable
defense to the tactics used by these companies, also there
should be enough fuel to keep the p2p bloggers busy for
quite some time.
-={ MediaDefender-Defenders }=-
lululul
Great article!
MediaDefender if you leave you doors open then people will come in and play, and you guys should really be defending your data.
Ethan (or Eitan or Eytan in Hebrew) is a male given name meaning strong, firm and safe.
Ethan is not a hacker he is a very naughty boy.
they are fighting to continue to suck the wealth out of artists.
like 50 cent said: the real income (for the artist) is accessories and fan stuff, like shirts and action-figures, clothes etc.
the music industry used to provide an audience (by controlling what music should be popular) to the artist, and the best way to make it, would be via one of these established money-makers.
piracy will free music, u better believe it.
if ethan get caught he will be asked to working for the FBI.. :D
Gangsta Rap should go fuck himself
THIS IS REALLY FUCKED… HAHAHAHAHA
media defender is mafia
Ethan, good job! and thank you!
:-)
Boobies! Hehe
Ethan is the man!!
This will never end, and there will never be any winner.
The only losers will be big media corporations who still don’t have a clue on how to work with these services instead of trying to stamp them out.
Good luck with your future endeavors Ethan!
“In November it turned out turned out that MediaDefender’s parent company…” - fix this :)
P.S. Ethan, you rule!
You are all retards. this story is fake.
@54
Dont be like that, you talk like Randy Saaf
hah [quote comment="263861"]if ethan get caught he will be asked to working for the FBI.. :D[/quote]
More like he will be sent to fmita federal prison. I laughed when I saw that he gave the “journalist” a 10 year old address, picture, and first #s of SSN. Like that is of any significance (you can determine the first few num’s based on where they were born). Anyone can produce that with the info that guy provides on his personal webpage, and a service like Zabasearch.
“he first gained access to the anti-piracy companies servers by exploiting a weakness in their firewall”
is a pretty damn lame statement to make. I know how script kiddie Ethan got access and he deserves a lot of credit for blowing the lid on Media Defenders. Information wants to be free! But he should stop giving interviews and disappear. Assuming he proxied all his connections, they won’t catch him.
“A special thanks to Jay Maris, for circumventing there entire email-security by forwarding all your emails to your gmail account”
Poor Mr. Jay Maris is a scapegoat for Ethan’s diversion.
Thank you very much Ethan, good job :)
Hope many will folow
What evidence do you have to back up that this anon should be the “hacker”?
Why did he wait so long to speak if it is really in his interest to do so?
Why does he write “we” in the initial statements accompanied by the leaks, if he is just one person?
Why would a guy being chased by the FBI Narrow down the number of possible suspects down so much?
1. male
2. US high-school student
3 Living with his parents
+ if the FBI finds out where this journalist met with the guy, then they know it is a bookstore near him. All the feds now need to do is knock on a few doors.
And this kid has also been entertaining all his friends with his endeavours…
This story is simply not plausible.
“…giving him access to the company’s email, it’s networked resources and even its telephone system…”
I’ve heard of people who are consistently unable to make the it’s-its distinction, but I’ve never seen this.
The apostrophe doesn’t belong; please get rid of the “it’s” and replace it with “its”.
[quote]Why would a guy being chased by the FBI Narrow down the number of possible suspects down so much?
1. male
2. US high-school student
3 Living with his parents
+ if the FBI finds out where this journalist met with the guy, then they know it is a bookstore near him. All the feds now need to do is knock on a few doors.[/quote]
Of course you’re right…
For many artists, it is as difficult to write a song (and often it requires more equipment) than it is for a computer programmer to write software. A song can take months. An album can take years. But should a song be available for free? Or, does a song have an inherent worth that deserves to be paid for?
Generally speaking, songs and software are both forms of Intellectual Property (IP). Like Physical Property, IP is owned and protected for a number of reasons..
1. Mental effort goes into making Intellectual Property.
2. Time goes into making Intellectual Property.
3. And lastly, financial investment goes into making Intellectual Property.
So why should you care about IP?
Without mental effort, time and investment, there would be no Internet. There would be no operating systems and no hardware.
So if the popular notion of The Pirate Bay takes hold in that all ideas should be free, will we ultimately destroy the Internet?
Certainly, if we devalue one form of IP (the lowly song) and destroy it in the name of nihilism, it may be a slippery slope to the destruction of other forms of IP.
Ronald Reagan said in the 80s that careers in computers would replace menial labor jobs. And indeed, as developed countries embraced computers, labor jobs went to developing nations. With this trend, the value of the mind was elevated. But now, with the ultimate survival of IP in question, where are we going for our future?
If ideas have no value, then do we, as modern thinking nations have no value? With this in mind, it may be possible that illegal downloading will lead to the downfall of society as IP crumbles beneath our fingertips and a ripple effect takes hold in the global economy.
Folks, TPB’s attitude is a fallacy and a siren of destruction. As they sap billions of dollars out of the world economy, they are initiating and encouraging a larger trend of collapse for the $1 trillion (USD) IP industry. When this $1 trillion industry falls, it will spill over to other sectors of the economy. Ordinary jobs will be endangered and the world will fall into a global depression never before experienced in modern times.
Mark these words; if you pirate, you are contributing to the slippery slope for which there is no escape. No matter who you are, what you do or where you live, your job and future is intrinsically linked to the future of IP.
That is awesome!
Go Ethan!!!
FYI, FBI: Ethan is Britney Spears. GET HER!
@ 62
You do realize that an artist (that has signed with a label) gets his money from performances, not sale of recordings, right? An I’m calling BS on “…it is as difficult to write a song (and often it requires more equipment) than it is for a computer programmer to write software.” Come to think of it, I’m not even sure what you’re trying to say with this. Are you saying it’s more difficult than or as difficult as?
Rather than dwell on that, I’ll just go point for point
“1. Mental effort goes into making Intellectual Property.”
With you there.
“2. Time goes into making Intellectual Property.”
Time goes into any activity.
“3. And lastly, financial investment goes into making Intellectual Property.”
Here I have to disagree. The financial cost is insignificant. Anyone can afford pencils and paper.
“Without mental effort, time and investment, there would be no Internet. There would be no operating systems and no hardware.”
Those are products. Actual, physical, things.
“So if the popular notion of The Pirate Bay takes hold in that all ideas should be free, will we ultimately destroy the Internet?”
Well, considering that the internet is based around the free flow of information, and ideas are just a form of information, I’d say ‘No.’
“Certainly, if we devalue one form of IP (the lowly song) and destroy it in the name of nihilism, it may be a slippery slope to the destruction of other forms of IP.”
Slippery slope indeed. As in “slippery slope fallacy”.
“Ronald Reagan said in the 80s that careers in computers would replace menial labor jobs.”
He was wrong.
“If ideas have no value, then do we, as modern thinking nations have no value? With this in mind, it may be possible that illegal downloading will lead to the downfall of society as IP crumbles beneath our fingertips and a ripple effect takes hold in the global economy.”
Wow. Just wow. You didn’t even try to cover up your invalid logic. I’m going to break this down ever further.
“If ideas have no value, then do we, as modern thinking nations have no value?”
1.Who ever said ideas don’t have value? We just think they should be shared freely.
2.A nation is composed of people, territory, cities, etc. Not ideas.
“With this in mind, it may be possible that illegal downloading will lead to the downfall of society”
This makes no sense whatsoever. Even accepting your statement that illegal copying will crash the economy (a ludicrous statement in itself) that is just economic damage. Not even the great depressions destroyed society.
It’s clear that you have little experience in the area of coherent and logical thought.
PS. Oh, and you misspelled ‘conscience’ too.
Hey feds, Ethan’s IP is 127.0.0.2 … he’s ultra-1337 (or something). You should be able to find him now :)
I seriously don’t think these things would happen if major labels found a different approach to circumventing piracy.
How about a flat monthly or weekly fee for all the music you wish to download? I’d actually feel sort of bad to pirate anything if they did that, and I’m a poor college kid.
If the FBI finds “Ethan”, I am sure they will work out something in return for jail, or not being allowed near a computer.
The FBI actually needs more “Ethans”, especially for Home Security Operations.
Never Say Never…
Dear: This is your Conscious Speaking
You came to the wrong forum to proselytize intellectual concepts with P2P sharers. You have to do much better in order to persuade and change the hearts and minds of P2P sharers.
P2P is never going to disappear, as long as the internet/web lives and breathes.
Your intellectual discourse will just fly by people’s head. Come up with something that we have not heard before. That IP (intellectual property) discourse is already passe. Very boring.
P2P = Creativity
Here comes the neo-nazi/’wannabe Hitler’ of this feud(lol).
@62:
I don’t know how to say this without sounding immature, but heres goes: (remember that I don’t know you and I’m using a stereotype[there's a reason people use sterotypes, think about it]) I fucking hate you (before you read on, I do NOT want to kill you).
That is all.
@65:
You’re on the right track.
To the rest of you:
I (probably) do NOT hate you, but you dissapoint me. Your so called beliefs are nothing more than the desire of getting stuff for free and mankind’s rebellious instinct.
[quote comment="263482"]@ #3- On the contrary, my doubtful friend. This war IS going to be won by the Pirate side. The industry is already showing clear signs of teetering as their revenues continue to slide and they increasingly clutch at whatever straws they can to prop themselves up in the face of a world that no longer needs their outmoded and obsolete business model.
They are being taught on a daily basis that NO ONE owns or controls a society’s entertainment or information. They can no longer hold our shared common culture for ransom.
Take a deep whiff. Smell that? It’s the smell of victory for freedom of information and it’s the smell of fear as arrogant, greedy corporate behemoths that have raped their customers for decades wake slowly up to the fact that they are dying.
Yarrr, mateys! Hoist up the sails.
Ramming speed![/quote]
The war on piracy cannot be won. Not yet.
(WARNING PERSONAL BELIEFS AHEAD)
Wikipedia “anarchism”.
The “war,” as you people are calling it, is going to get worse before it gets better. Companies are starting to feel the pinch, and so they’re all getting more strict about their copyright regulations and doing everything they can to protect their “intellectual property,” stepping on all of our rights and privacy in the meantime.
Within a number of years, it will get so bad that people will simply be unable to take it anymore. Consumers will stop responding in any way to their tactics and simply cease to be willing to pay for their products. We, as pirates, are the first of those consumers. We think it’s bad enough already.
As the companies get even more worried, they’ll put more pressure on governments to pass laws to help them. The moment this sort of law starts getting passed is the moment that the general public won’t stand up for it anymore at all.
So in the end, the companies’ tactics will crumble, and the lawmakers will backtrack. The winners will not be pirates, however, but people in general. It won’t be the concept of piracy on peoples’ mind at that point, but the ideals of actual freedom and privacy.
With lobbyist forcing strict copywrights, HW vendors including native HW HDCP functionality, SW following suit (VISTA is nothing but a DRM gotcha) and the US thinking it owns the world so it’s all right to control those foreign swedens living in the far nordic reaches of the U.S. of Assholes to do as they say. I don’t see how anyone can spend one dime or pander to these corrupt organizations. Dissent is patriotic.
[quote comment="264398"]With lobbyist forcing strict copywrights, HW vendors including native HW HDCP functionality, SW following suit (VISTA is nothing but a DRM gotcha) and the US thinking it owns the world so it’s all right to control those foreign swedens living in the far nordic reaches of the U.S. of Assholes to do as they say. I don’t see how anyone can spend one dime or pander to these corrupt organizations. Dissent is patriotic.[/quote]
I think you’re taking this the wrong way. I may sound like a blind(intellectually speaking) American patriot but put some thought into it, it’s true that America has it’s very own, very horrible flaws but it’s the best that humanity has tried (notice I didn’t say “come up with”).
There was way *way* too much information about “Ethan” in the original article this post links to. The author just kept piling on the detail: we can assume that the kid is an american, lives near a bookstore, attends highschool, lives with his parents, house has a basement, has n computers of x type, etc etc.
This may sound tinfoul-hat-ish, but its the slow accumulation of these details are a boon to investigators.
SERIOUSLY! THIS ARTICLE NEGATES EVERYTHING THAT WAS POSTED ON HOW THE LEAKS HAPPENED BEFORE.
THIS ARTICLE IS BULLSHIT. TORRENTFREAK IS RETARDED. EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES THIS IS RETARDED. I AM NOW RETARDED AFTER READING EVERY “OMGGZ ETHAN IS A L33T H4CKER. C0NGRATS ETHAN!!!” COMMENT
i hate you all.
ETHAN! ETHAN! ETHAN! ETHAN!
good job Ethan
[quote comment="264398"]With lobbyist forcing strict copywrights, HW vendors including native HW HDCP functionality, SW following suit (VISTA is nothing but a DRM gotcha) and the US thinking it owns the world so it’s all right to control those foreign swedens living in the far nordic reaches of the U.S. of Assholes to do as they say. I don’t see how anyone can spend one dime or pander to these corrupt organizations. Dissent is patriotic.[/quote]
And apparently American bashing is trendy. The issue has nothing to do with America or any type of nationalism. These multinational corporations care not a whit about nor harbor any allegiance to a single country. They see themselves as above that, as a power unto themselves. It doesn’t matter where the corporate headquarters is located. And frankly, as far as that goes a goodly portion of them are owned or based in Europe and Asia. Stop trying to make it an “Us vs. America” thing. It’s not.
It’s a global issue.
Oh, and last time I checked, there was only one Sweden. If you meant the Swedish people, they would be properly called Swedes not Swedens.
You know, I was going to be polite but I just re-read your comment. U.S. of Assholes? Okay, douchebag. But the next time you see your country’s flag waving, try and remember that it was those “Assholes” that were a big part of why there’s no swastika on it.
Yes, dissent is patriotic. Tarring and feathering an entire people because of the actions of their leaders is not.
Enigmax & Ernesto
You guys don’t like to read things, eh? You might want to, so that you can get the correct information and not look like a fool.
A. Read the NFO that came with the e-mail leaks. It was posted in comment #39. Read it over a few times, and let it sink in.
B. http://www.mediadefender-defenders.com/
IS _NOT_ owned and run by MediaDefender-Defenders. They have NOTHING AT ALL to do with it, so to call it “their” website, is just plain wrong.
This is from the website:
“About
The whole mail database was converted to HTML by Forrest F. (JRWR), and is hosted by prq.se.
Do note that this is not the official MediaDefender-Defenders website, just a browseable copy of the e-mail leak that snowballed. We’re also not the guys that acquired these e-mails, we just nabbed them off of BitTorrent and converted them.”
FUCKING READ SHIT NEXT TIME, and you won’t perpetuate the ego of some little script kiddie.
Some people just need to vent their angst on some medium, I suppose.
I also did a double take, and it appears you can’t read, wtf.
“Soon it became known that a shadowy group known as MediaDefender-Defenders appeared to be behind the attack - they host the Media Defender emails on their website to this day, but little was known about the chain events, or who was behind them - until now.”
This is the only paragraph I can find that’s even remotely is relevant to your claim, and it doesn’t say it’s owned by the official company at all. It’s saying there’s a group that hosts the hacked e-mails among other incriminating things.
Are you mad that a “script kiddie” got lucky or something.
if ethan gets caught, i’ll drop him off apple pies during visition hours
thanks for your leet haxor skills :D
@ 62
SirNull already did a good job showing the fallacies of your argument. I just want to add a point that always creeps up when dealing with your type:
How does it come that the recording industry considers itself the guardian of music as such? In discussions you people keep going on about the demise of culture, the death of music blabla. Some jerks even predict a worldwide economic meltdown, don’t they “This is your Conscious Speaking”? Why not throw in a plague or a nuclear war for good measure?
In the case of music just consider this point: Mankind made music before the advent of the grammophone. Amazing isn’t it? For some reason Bach and Beethoven and thousands of other artists created music without a contract from EMI, Warner, Sony etc.
And they earned a living. Great, isn’t it? So I got a hunch that music (or any other art) will be around even without these corporations.
Or maybe your vision of the future comes true and the US of A launch a thermonuclear attack on Sweden to rescue their starving and rioting citizens from the evil Pirate Bay…
Why the fuck is 80 (n3l87) the only other person besides myself to address this. THIS ENTIRE STORY IS A HUGE FUCKING FRAUD.
MEDIADEFENDER WAS NOT HACKED, there was no exploit, ethan is an idiot/probably does not exist. Or is atleast laughing himself to tears at everyone here’s stupidity.
Look at this:
A special thanks to Jay Maris, for circumventing there entire
email-security by forwarding all your emails to your gmail
account, and using the really highly secure password: blahbob
That was the NFO that came with the leaked emails. If anyone followed things, they would also know that it was a torrent site operator who, using the same password as Jay Maris used for the torrent site, accessed and leaked the gmail emails.
YOU ARE ALL FUCKING IDIOTS.
HOW do I contact Enigmax & Ernesto to personally tell them how much I hate them?
The story is that Jay Maris who is a Media Defender exec used his Gmail account and the Password blahbob to sign up to a torrent indexing site and the Operator of the Torrent site noticed the Mediadefender IP .
Jay Maris was fowarding all his work email to his Gmail account and used the same easy to remember password on Gmail .
shiver me timbers.
to poster 85:
Tell that to the stock holders
and i bet u work at Mcdonalds with Jay Maris
No BlueBalls, LOL!
Learn to fucking read. USING A PASSWORD THAT A USER PROVIDES TO YOU IS NOT A HACK OR AN EXPLOIT.
But the leaks of course did indeed happen.
What I am trying to tell everyone is that the stor of Ethan is false because it does not coincide with what we were told when the leak first happened, AND IT SURE AS HELL DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE NFO THAT CAME WITH THE EMAILS. That NFO is available here: http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3806944/MediaDefender.Mail.200612.200709-MDD
A leak through gmail is not the same a “breaking a firewall” as claimed by this article. Ethan also never mentions anything about the gmail leak.
Therefore, Ethan is just as stupid as 99% of the commenters here, including yourself. He lied to this media outlet and they published his false story. This fucktard is full of shit.
God is in the details. The author of the story glanced right it.
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SirNull already did a good job showing the fallacies of your argument. I just want to add a point that always creeps up when dealing with your type:
How does it come that the recording industry considers itself the guardian of music as such? In discussions you people keep going on about the demise of culture, the death of music blabla. Some jerks even predict a worldwide economic meltdown, don’t they “This is your Conscious Speaking”? Why not throw in a plague or a nuclear war for good measure?
In the case of music just consider this point: Mankind made music before the advent of the grammophone. Amazing isn’t it? For some reason Bach and Beethoven and thousands of other artists created music without a contract from EMI, Warner, Sony etc.
And they earned a living. Great, isn’t it? So I got a hunch that music (or any other art) will be around even without these corporations.
Or maybe your vision of the future comes true and the US of A launch a thermonuclear attack on Sweden to rescue their starving and rioting citizens from the evil Pirate Bay…[/quote]
He also forgot to note (or perhaps failed to even educate himself of these data) that way back in the day the folk in charge of the written word (librarians, anyone?) screamed at how the printing press was going to destroy the value of books; or how about the sheet music vendors - the ‘pirates’ of _their_ day. Even funnier is how Mr. Fox (of 20th C. Fox) - one of the main bleaters about movie piracy - was originally a movie pirate _himself!_
LMFAO…
I actually have some sympathies for the US law enforcements as they are in fact doing something good for the society as a whole. It’s really just Media Defender that we have a problem with.
Hackers unite and take arms with me in OUR fight for free media and downloads. I believe if they catch me they will make me a slave for the government for my natural life. Ethan is my story name and all should believe it wasn’t just me who helped. To defend my genius press conference to Monkey Defenders. Why the fuck would a company publish something like this on the internet regarding a leak. Think about it, Bill Gates doesn’t revile that shit publicly, just Patch Fixes Etc. Use your brains people! Really even if it hurts!
EtHAn
[quote comment="263321"][quote comment="263268"]Let’s hope “Ethan” doesn’t get caught.[/quote]
[quote comment="263296"]If Ethan gets caught he will be thrown in jail, and they will throw the key away…[/quote]
Not really. He will have the support of the US piracy party.[/quote]
I hope this is sarcastic.
the us purate party arent allowed to support any actions counted as illegal in america, otherwise they lose their right to be a party.
Regarding no-more software if it becomes free, anyone heard of Ubuntu?? LOL, I think they make the point that free can do as well if not better than expensive.:-)
i feel that everyone is still posting in praise of ethan and this story just to piss me off.
viva la internets anyways.
May those Monkey Pretenders burn in hell! Thank you ‘Ethan’ for exploiting yet another bunch of thieving bastards.
What a great read ! Down with the anti-pirates
#62: There are two words that defeat your analogy “Open Source”
First of all, Almost the entire populace of hackers who have any skill whatsoever are 1. Fighting against a very real threat - The information security and talentless ‘Whitehat’/Ethical Hacker bloc 2. Are The Whitehat bloc
All of these people who claim to have all this talent, or to have done this and that, They are using OTHER people’s exploits. They are bruteforcing passes, That requires about 15 minutes of knowledge about C and sockets and you will be one of these revered ‘hackers’.
As has been mentioned before, Ethan is hardly a real hacker.
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He IS in Jail. For a VERY long time. And by “Well dressed” these days, I am sure it was all an act. He’s probably a hideous-looking kid. Like most these days.
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