Michael Jackson’s Death Causes Surge On BitTorrent
Written by Ernesto on June 26, 2009The ‘King of Pop’ may have died but his music lives on, and on file-sharing networks, maybe stronger than ever. Less than 24 hours after Jackson passed away hundreds of thousands of file-sharers have downloaded one or more of his albums on BitTorrent.
Michael Jackson suffered a cardiac arrest on Thursday afternoon, which was likely caused by a Demerol overdose and ultimately led to his death.
There is no doubt that Jackson had a tremendous impact on several generations of musicians, and millions of people who grew up with his music. It is therefore no surprise to see that only hours after he was pronounced dead, his music is being sought by hundreds of thousands of people.
At the time of writing the three most active torrents in the music section on the largest torrent indexer, Mininova, are all compilations or discographies from the “King of Pop”. On top is a torrent listing 30 Michael Jackson albums, The Jackson 5 and The Jacksons, totaling 1.94 GB of music.
In common with social media sites, ‘Michael Jackson’ is one of the most sought after phrases on torrent sites too. The search cloud on Mininova is filled with Jackson-related searches from fans who want to complete their collection.
Michael Jackson fills Mininova’s search cloud
This renewed interest in Michael Jackson is not limited to just torrent sites though. On Amazon, Jackson’s work takes up the top 14 spots on the bestselling albums list. Currently the top 10 albums chart on iTunes is dominated by 7 Jackson albums. On eBay there is a similar boom with memorabilia being traded for ten times the prices of just two days ago.
It had been rumored by Michael Jackson biographer Ian Halperin that the ‘King of Pop’ had recorded as many as 100 unreleased tracks but was keeping them locked away. He claimed that upon Jackson’s death, the tracks would be made available to his three children as a personal legacy and to secure an inheritance.
With Jackson’s death the 100 songs could now become available, and considering his troubling financial situation it may not take very long before they become available to the public, in stores and on BitTorrent.
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140 Responses
RIP Michael Jackson
+1
I liked his music.
Not gonna download it because I didn’t like it that much lol
RIP King of Pop, who hereby bequeaths all the rights to the music that he owns to the public domain.
TPB tracker appears to also be down
That sucks..
cant take it with you when you die.
Over 5000 searches in http://Pirlog.com
TPB tracker is down
Sony has run out of stock
Another reason to try and declare search engines illegal:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090625/1757125363.shtml
His music will always live! He was a living legend, and now that he passed away, there is no doubt that he IS and always WILL be the KING OF POP.
Rest in Peace Michael!
GoodNight Sweet Prince
R.I.P.
Today I am remembering my love for the pop icon. You can say what you want about him but I will always remember him like this:
http://tinyurl.com/everything-MJ
Lol, never was a fan of his music much, but in honor of his end…I’ll go download some of his newest samples right now.
REST IN PEACE man
one great singer…
Wait, what? No one’s being ignorant enough to say he’s a child molester? (Which he was proven to not be)
Who is the guy in the photo?
Well at least all the children will be safer with one more kiddie-perv gone from this world.
I think it’s Tito.
in the imortal words of metallica. ” so fookin what!!”
lets see if he likes being f**ked in the ass by a little worm
16 Jun 26, 2009 at 17:53 by Zush
Who is the guy in the photo?
It’s Michael Jackson before he turned white :D
Not convicted no. But the parents & kids know he did it. But as usual in the US celebrities always get a “Free Pass”. No matter what they do.
I think everyone knows there is a bit too much to be untrue. Of course denial can be a way of dealing with it.
what’s wrong with tpb? can’t get dl starting
I’d like to say RIP to Michael Jackson. Yesterday after I heard the news I was talking to my wife about it. I was also talking about how some think/believe he molested children. My personal beliefs on the matter is he didn’t. If you watched him closely you could tell he couldn’t do anything to purposely harm kids. He was just someone who really liked kids and wanted to help those who had bad lives.
Also found out my wifes mother apparently grew up with Michael and knew him decently. Basically from her experiences with him, he was far to sensitive and compassionate to do harm to anyone.
When I heard he had died (while listening to the radio while I waited in the car for my wife), I was shocked. It was so sudden and unexpected. I didn’t like much of his music and I wouldn’t be considered a fan but he was a good man and I’d like to say RIP.
anyone wonder if he’ll come back from the dead… cause this is THRILLAAHH…
(RIP:MJ)
I was trying to get some MJ tunes and had tons of problems with downloads.
I found the full discography here and got it in 15 minutes!! FAST!!!
http://zoomtorrents.com?file=Michael_Jackson_Full_Discography_withArt
R.I.P Michael
I am also noticing from the cloud picture that a lot of people still don’t know how to spell “Michael Jackson.” It’s A before E. Time to learn.
NO its your A before two ss’s in his case
I’ve been to zoomtorrents. Tim is right .. in that it’s very very fast. Sometimes they dont have much to offer, but it looks like theyve added more content. I’m getting the MJ Discography now. It’s slower – 19 mins to go, but then again, everyone’s probably getting it.
He he
Best Musician to walk this earth. RIP.
you know you guys say file sharing doesnt hurt anyone but if he has 100 unreleased songs that he saved for his kids if they get rls’d and shared its going to hurt them maybe not in a financial way but in a mental way.
Also you guys a mooks some of you are saying that hes a kiddie fiddler but you are also the same people that want thepiratebay to stay alive and they deal with child porn all of the time dont believe me? search for teen or model or webe webe or vlad and you will see but heh most of the readers here are hypocrites
@31 : “Best Musician to walk this earth. RIP.”
Jimi Hendrix would like a word with you…
I remember the mania that surrounded the release of Thriller. I was 12 years old, and “anything Micheal” was enough to cause a frenzy. I bought his posters, but I could never get a hold of his album because the stores couldn’t keep up with the demand. I also remember thinking what an amazingly good looking guy he was long before the surgery and skin bleaching. I was simply mesmerized by his talent and everything that he did. Being poor I couldn’t afford to dress like him, and I certainly didn’t have the natural skill to dance like him, but I still loved his music and admired him.
He is the top selling artist of all time, and no one can ever come close to the immense artistry that is Thriller.
The ignorant bottom feeders that suggest that he was a criminal need a reality check. His mistake was believing that he could surround himself with young people that would never harm him. They wouldn’t, but their parents could. I think any greedy parent with little or nothing to lose could have easily found him a target to profit from. The rumors of his sexuality were all over the map, he preferred to keep the company of young people because he believed they would never harm him, and no doubt he made have made some bad but not fatal judgment calls in their interactions with him. I have no doubt that he was being stupid and naive in the way he conducted his interaction with others, but this didn’t make him a bad person. Most adults would never make this mistake because of fears that they would be seen as having unhealthy relationships with younger people, but for some reason or another he didn’t see it that way.
As for all of these alleged “victims” of his. I know of child abuse victims that go through most of their lives in therapy and never get over what happened to them. All the money and happiness is never enough to make them feel better. Somehow we never hear of his “victims” suffering and spending endless time going to therapy and becoming alcoholics, drug addicts, or sex abusers themselves. I think they should really examine themselves one day and wonder if it was really worth the millions they’ve collected from him as the result of their lies, and to think about the massive toll it must have taken on him emotionally, artistically and financially.
I personally don’t believe he is capable of abuse. I think he was being naive and downright stupid in trusting anyone. No one who is in such a major spotlight can never fully trust anyone except their family and very close friends, and even they can’t be fully trusted sometimes.
If people ever laugh and joke about him being a pedophile, just imagine if a child and parent made an accusation against you. Imagine the tremendous emotional and mental toll it would take on you and your family. Whether or not the accusations are true, you would be scarred and marked for life and people would be screaming in your face that you always were and always will be a child abuser. Your life would never be the same even if you were completely innocent and were being naive and stupid because no matter what there will always be someone who never believes you. You should hope that you are never accused of being an abuser by someone who dislikes you or sees you as a bank where they can extort from your wealth.
Regardless of it all, the power of his music and his death has shocked the world. His impact of millions on people and the way his artistry has shaped today’s music and music videos can not be disputed. He always was and always will be the King of Pop. No one, not even ignorant trolls and idiots can take that away from him.
RIP Michael. Thank you for the music and the inspiration.
Hey 32…seems you’re pretty well versed on the phrases to search for to find underage porn. May wanna be a little more hesitant to give out your secrets…gonna have the government goin after you next.
Maybe it works like art, worth more when the artist is dead :P
http://www.disabledtech.info/2009/06/26/michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-death-causes-surge-on-bittorrent/
“It had been rumored by Michael Jackson biographer Ian Halperin that the ‘King of Pop’ had recorded as many as 100 unreleased tracks but was keeping them locked away. He claimed that upon Jackson’s death, the tracks would be made available to his three children as a personal legacy and to secure an inheritance.
With Jackson’s death the 100 songs could now become available, and considering his troubling financial situation it may not take very long before they become available to the public, in stores and on BitTorrent.”
These “unreleased tracks” have already been released, haven’t they?
http://torrentfreak.com/unreleased-michael-jackson-songs-hit-bittorrent-090401/
and thus, the 70-year copyright clock is winding down…
Look at it from this side: In 2079 (if no legislation changes) you will be able to share his music freely as works in the public domain.
Or is that not so?
Garry Glitter that did not get Caught
i’ve actually thought about downloading some of his stuff, too.
I wouldn’t say he was the best musician to walk this earth, but I would give him best choreographer and best dancer.
And btw, R.I.P.
The reason of death: he modded this body too much.
Too bad he dies now, if it was before the TPB-trial, the verdict should be much softer then the verdict now… Because Michael would personally take down TPB. I can’t find the article on TF, the search function sux, because it let see only one page and if you go to older entries, it goes to the ‘normal’ older entries :/
@34
Very nice my friend. I agree with you totally.
@34 You took the words right out of my mouth. I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels this way.
RIP Michael.
He was 50. His nose, 17.
@34 I think you’re right about his love for children being mostly benign, but I think one thing that people defending him overlook is the fact that he completely mismanaged the situation by being so reclusive. The man was entitled to a private life and to control his own publicity as best he can, but when he’s doing things with kids, especially other people’s kids, he has a responsibility to be forthcoming and completely open about it, letting the cameras in and offering anyone who’s skeptical the opportunity to see what’s going on. He didn’t do that. Additionally, as the “child who never grew up”, he fits the profile of many-a molester, the kind of people who are or fancy themselves to be on the same emotional level as their victims, thus self-justified to pretend they’re the only people in the world as they explore ways of comforting and interacting with each other. He needed to make more of a public effort to overcome that suspicion. I said, I don’t think he actually did it, but I do think he and his handlers and the people who defended him were rather irresponsible in that he should’ve been forced to be more open & public about this one part of his life. It sucks to say “if he had nothing to hide, he had nothing to fear” because I know that’s a crap argument for anything, but as adults we have to sometimes make a bit of a show of how we have nothing to hide, particularly when we’re interacting with other people’s kids, no matter how much the kids and their parents trust us.
ANYway I’m wondering what will happen to the publishing rights to the Beatles songs now that MJ is dead. Does Sony get to keep them?
@Corpsie – If he had nothing to hide, he had nothing to fear. How could he have been open about his love for children? What he really should have been open about was sexuality. He hid it, and became introverted as many do. Would Ellen have been as successful as she is if she had hid her sexuality? Probably not because she HAD to come out with it and florished doing so. Michael… obviously hiding some sexual problems (possibly pedophelia, we’ll never know now) didn’t come out, and didn’t florish. Rather, he clung onto life in a “stasis”. My firm believe is he really was a pedophile and didn’t want to be the one to turn the world onto it as being “good”. For years homosexuals hid, and were persecuted. If he had come out, then pedophelia possibly would have went the same way and I think he didn’t want that to happen.
I ws a fan of the guy but he had been dying slowly for the last 20 years. Also, to those who feel he never molested children, don’t forget that he paid one boy’s family MILLIONS (rumor is about 20 mil) to drop charges against him. reportedly, the boy could give details about Jackson’s body that proved he had been molested. Add to that friends like Quincy Jones and Sir Paul who told him to stay away from kids to avoid trouble and severed most ties with the man over his sexual interests.
The man was an artit and THRILLER and OFF THE WALL are amazing records. But don’t sugar coat this stuff.
I ws a fan of the guy but he had been dying slowly for the last 20 years. Also, to those who feel he never molested children, don’t forget that he paid one boy’s family MILLIONS (rumor is about 20 mil) to drop charges against him. reportedly, the boy could give details about Jackson’s body that proved he had been molested. Add to that friends like Quincy Jones and Sir Paul who told him to stay away from kids to avoid trouble and severed most ties with the man over his sexual interests.
The man was an artit and THRILLER and OFF THE WALL are amazing records. But don’t sugar coat this stuff.
@37
That was April fools by TF, they haven’t been released.
http://i40.tinypic.com/14o0som.png
wat
first off RIP MJ
@24 , @34, @47 i agree with u 100%…
i believe michael jackson to be a victim on the heartless media. the guy grew up too fast as a child and was always protected never really knew the outside… perhaps he may have been a bit autistic… but it seems he could not grasp life finances and family alike.. always looking for happiness but never finding it even with all the cash in the world… he was the brightest star as far as music is concerned in the last 100+ yrs even brighter then elvis…
on the molestation issue i think it was the media that had the sick mind… i think (obviously i have no clue) he was only trying to relive his child hood… cuddling is something that some families do and some dont and for him to simply put his arm around a boy or rub his leg is in no way sexual as was implied… most Americans do not cuddle with their children much less sleep in the same bed… how could they begin to understand what MJ was doing? i never believe he molested those kids no do i today…
much like an old paul harvey (early 80’s)i once heard… little jimmy was handing out power pills in school and the principle suspended the kid for it.. later when the kids parents came to school to discus the matter jimmy revealed he was handing out tick tacks… now whom has the sick mind the child or the teacher that thought jimmy was giving out drugs? our society today is so quick to throw stones or make accusations without a second thought…
GOD bless!!!
reports of jako dying of a heart attack are incorrect . . .he was found in the childrens ward having a stroke
So people are honoring who many people consider to be one of the biggest cutural icons of the 20th century by.. furthering their own enjoyment?
Anyone who defends this MOLESTER is an idiot. (Or, you get off thinking about it too.) And face the facts, no real musician thought shit about him. All he was was disco for the 80s, wildly commercially successful yes. Creative or imaginative in any way, no. (Except to latch onto something and market it.) I challenge anyone to list one real lasting thing he contributed to music. Seriously, before yesterday, when was the last time you heard, or even wanted to hear one of his songs.
More than that, what a pathetic example of a human being. He had everything, he could have done so much with it.
dont like him…. his music is not as good as the music out there now…
I dont care if he is dead…..
All his fans are blind to the FACT.. He paid millions to cover up his PEADO activities…….
fcuk him….. burn in hell….
I will say the same when oj goes. he was never convicted either.(very few people with money are)( they just buy their way out of it)
All those crying fans are retarded or the just dont care about M.J sleeping with young boys , then paying them millions to keep quiet about what happened.
If you are a M.J fan ,.. fcuk you for being ignorant to the FACTS
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Does anyone know why EZTV.it is down?????
What a lot of nice copypaste in this thread.
And I think that the title “King of Pop” actually belongs to a certain Liverpool quartet.
loldead, pedomike
Give just to due to him and stop degrading his name nothing was proven against him so shutup haters i will forever give him his just due
What I find funny is that Wednesday no one wanted to share his music, and now everyone does. I can see going out and buying an original record of Thriller with an autograph now, or a ticket to one of his upcoming concerts, but who cares for a copy of an illegal mp3? The file was just worth the cost of bandwith before, and now that you have it, It is just worth the cost of your bandwith now.
btw I just got the greatest text message.
As Michael Jackson was 99% plastic they can melt him down and cast him into LEGO BLOCKS. That way little children can play with him for a change.
He’s moonwalking in heaven now… RIP, Michael.
@52
ever think it was stupid ass greedy americans after his money, like in the last case. now stfu tard
@52
we get the point we get the point we get the point we get the point we get the point we get the point
@35 actually all you have to search for is teen or model neither of which are illegal or based on child porn but when you search for those two then unfortunately all the kiddie porn links pop up to its sad to say that when you search for one or two things you learn about the rest. For those of you that have bad things to say about MJ the whole reason he liked kids was because he never had a childhood
from 5 years old he was made into a pop sensation he was made to sing and dance and practice all day everyday thanks to his father when people like that are forced into lives of extreme work conditions like he was then weird shit happens just look at the olsen twins constant work work work and no play and no one of them looks like a skeleton and the other well….
@ # 61
ok. You have found the reason for his behavior, But does that make it right? If so, Does the fact that Hitlers father was a Jew, beat him, and then abandoned him condone the holocost?
Do the causes justify the ends?
An innocent person doesn’t settle a child abuse accusation. Really, would you? What was he worried about, it would cost him 20 mil instead of 5 mil? He was guilty, and new it. Really people, grown 40-tear old men do not sleep in the same with young (unrelated) boys unless they have a problem. Neither do they show them porn (read the transcripts), nor expose themselves.
He was RICH, and got away with it because he was rich.
And if he was so damn talented – show me what he has done creatively in the last (almost) 20 years. Oh, that’s right, all those terrible accusers took away his creativity.
Bunch of flamin’ trolls on here man.
The dude had a 45 year career. He worked for 90% of his life. That alone I think deserves respect. Have a good afterlife my friend.
Flamin’ trolls. When are yas gonna kick in Godwin’s Law?
@63
What PARENT would settle for money if they REALLY believed their kid was diddled?? I know I wouldn’t. I’d be bring holy hell down on the SOB.
The conclusion is: After his passing, we started (more than ever!) to *loot* him of his art! :-) Nice…
I agree.
And RIP MJ.
So …MJ dies and all of a sudden he is interesting again?
Explain it to me please, I just don´t get it.
68 Jun 26, 2009 at 23:28 by Nef
Well 10 totally sold out concerts in london say otherwise.
He was interesting before LoL
June is just a bad month for celebrities. First GC last year around this time and now MJ. Who’s next?
every since i heard the jacko song beat it i never did it the same anymore he put rythm in it. its like a explosion everytime the song ends.
HA 52, you are bizarre.
I agree, why all the fashionable fuss?
He had two good albums, namely ‘Off The Wall’ and ‘Thriller’. Everything after that was noise.
PRESS RELEASE FROM:
MICHAEL JACKSON FAN NETWORK
OFFICAL CAUSE OF DEATH FOR JACKSON *LATEST NEWS*
“The King of Pop is Silenced” Michael Jackson dies at the age of 50. Jackson was rushed to UCLA Medical Center earlier Thursday after suffering cardiac arrest. TMZ reports Jackson was not breathing when paramedics arrived at his rented house and CPR was administered in the ambulance. He was brought to the hospital sometime around 12:30 PM PST. TMZ reports that Jackson’s autopsy has been expedited and will be performed by the L.A. County Coroner on Friday. Jackson was pronounced dead at UCLA Medical Center at 2:26 pm. TMZ also reports that Jackson was rehearsing for his upcoming tour at the Staples Center in L.A. last night. Sources have confirmed that backstage after this rehearsal that Jackson had downloaded the new single, “Jump The Shark”, by Sindicate Media artists, Deathmachine, from their MySpace webpage, http://www.myspace.com/deathmachineonline, into his iPod. As yet, unconfirmed sources have reported Jackson played the new “Jump The Shark” single on his iPod on Thursday at approximately 12:13 PM PST. At this time it is unclear if Deathmachine will accept responsibility for the death of the iconic “King of Pop”.
Holy crap? 100 tracks? Meh? Will that actually cover the debt the kids may have inherited? Or debt isn’t inherited? Loophole?
His smile always melted my heart.
23: “If you watched him closely you could tell he couldn’t do anything to purposely harm kids.”
Watched him closely when and where? When he was on camera, in concert, or at a publicity event? That’s the only time most people would ever see him. I would not expect him to molest kids when he knows he’s being watched.
“Also found out my wifes mother apparently grew up with Michael and knew him decently. Basically from her experiences with him, he was far to sensitive and compassionate to do harm to anyone.”
Your wife’s mother doesn’t have nearly enough information to conclude that “he was far to sensitive and compassionate to do harm to anyone”. I’m sure there are plenty of people who were nice to some people and horrible to other people. As Noam Chomsky said, “Every one of us, under some circumstances, could be a gas chamber attendant or a saint.”. Questions of Jackson’s pedophilia are answered with evidence, not vague descriptions of one’s sensitivity and compassion. It’s perfectly fine to not have the evidence or say one doesn’t yet know if he acted improperly with those kids.
45: There is no afterlife. Michael Jackson is no different from every other living thing in the world; he eventually died and he lives no more. And talking about respect for working for so long is odd. There’s nothing clearly respectable about working for so long; when one is talking about multi-millionaires, one is is compelled to ask what is there to respect about someone who squanders the amount of money Jackson did?
@81 J.B. Nicholson-Owens
I never mentioned anything about respecting him for blowing all his money. I think working at anything for 45 years is a friggin’ huge accomplishment. I’d like to see your billable hours. Do they do billable hours on welfare checks?
Why was he using public funds?
Was he using illegally obtained funds?
What he did with what was his is only his business and any file sharer in the world will tell you the same thing LoL
Ah Shucks…………….
My thee little kiddies sleep easy tonight…
To my surprise I was trying to ready the wikipedia entry for MJ and for the first time I did saw the message “We are having difficultys”.
And I bet even the people who didn’t like Mr. Jackson were trying to read something about it go on you can admit it LoL
Wow, looks like the thread just got off at hates ville. Yeah, he was a pedophile in all due likely hood, but given his contributions to American music, isn’t saying “burn in hell” a little harsh?
Found this memorial site:
http://michaeljacksonwillbemissed.com/
Michael give em a hell of a concert in heaven… RIP my brother.. until we meet again…
How Michael Jackson thrilled Russia
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/26/Michael.Jackson.russia/index.html
Michael Jackson did prove that even with the state trying is best filesharing could not be stoped…oops! I mean music LoL
When the Soviet Union didn’t allowed american artists to be played or selled still people copied and shared with each other :)
He was a drug addict and a child molestor.
The excuse that he didn’t have a childhood is something everyone can make an excuse In bed with a child is not a way to regain your childhood.
The father of that kid had the goods on him. That is why he paid him off. His music is ok. We are the Wolrd is probably the best song.
Now the media and the music business will extract every penny from him. I imagine they will have a “This is It” – Remembering MJ concert.
He was happiest during Off the Wall and Thriller – May he rest in Peace!!
Sure what better way to punish a child molester then let him give you cash rights?
LoL
neostyles: Yes, that’s exactly what people do and Michael Jackson would love to see people all over the world enjoying his works together.
You neostyle, however, will never understand this because you’re full of hate for yourself projecting it onto mankind. I pity you and now get therapy. Maybe it’s not too late for you. Okay, you already got more attention than sick people like you deserve.
http://torrentfreak.com/michael-jacksons-death-causes-surge-on-bittorrent-090626/#comment-573578
Search for kiddie-abuse ? You gotta be fucking kidding me..
btw : you seem to know A LOT about how to find it .
Makes you wonder, does it not ?
The black man that turned white.
@ Censorship Sucks Balls
i got some ‘magic’ beans for sale, good price to you!
do you honestly think by looking at someone and their actions you can tell if they are a molester?
do you think he settled out of court for multi millions coz he was innocent? after having this case covered (the 1st one)by every possible media vehicle and the negative publicity he received from it, the only way for him to prove his innocence and remove all doubt for good, was to complete the trial – and he shirked it, why, because he was GUILTY
man there are some really gullible people around
lol the dues dead and every one downloads his music off torretnts? – well u know i guess thats good casue sony dont realy want that money anyway…
You started so well and then you go on, an accused a men of doing something based on his behavior LoL
Well maybe he settled because feel it’s better to send an innocent man to jail than to put a child at risk, people are not reasonable we you talk about kids, people seems to loose the rational part of their brains is like it ceases to function LoL
Here an example of kiddy porn paranoia:
http://techdirt.com/articles/20090625/1851225365.shtml
http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2003/09/60232
@95 what are you sniffing?
first was a question not an accusation.
and the following based on Factual reports of his behaviour with minors, such as pyjama parties, sleeping in the same bed as an minor (unrelated), showing pornography to a minor, plying or enciting a minor to drink alcohol, exposing his genitalia to a minor – do u wish me to go on?
with his vast wealth/power he has access to the best atorneys, do you think for one moment was he innocent they would have not have forced a conclusion in court?
thus leaving their clients character unflawed and yes, a more profitable one for him and other companies to exploit, any other outcome was career and financial suicide, no doubt in my mind this was explained to him, but he still chose to settle.
he displayed well documented predatory pedophile behaviour, and dont give me the crap he was childlike – again he would have many ‘advisors’ telling him that this was not advisable behaviour towards or with children, and he continued to perpetrate these actions, ultimately ending up with another law action against him involving another minor
had he no wealth there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind he would be doing time for child molestation
theres way more than 100 unreleased tracks, a lot more. Uncompleted or not.
We will always love u mike
Michael laughing at piracy :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7D6yMNhaMA
;-)
mark my words to all u rude ppl ripping on a dead man!!!
calling him a pedophile or he doesnt matter or ever did…
you will never in ur life see more popular and unpopular ppl a like morn this mans death…no one… u can add up all the ppl u know personally and none of them will receive a measure of respect the likes of what jackson will receive..this man has earned and will get!!!
no one mans life has affected the whole world as he has save Christ alone…not even elvis…
if u think his death affects millions ur wrong… he will get sympathy from over a billion + ppl around the world! the likes mankind has never seen… they are already reaching out… a lot of internet sites crashed just from the traffic of the news…
It could not have happened to a nicer Guy!!!
I can’t belieive all this hype about a dead child molester and child abuser that gets away with his crimes with money he made out of children. Farah Fawsett-Majors died but she gets only a passing mention.
The same thing happened with Lady Diane Spencer (adulterer) and Mother Teresa (Greatest saviour of namkind), Mother Teresa only got a passing mention as well.
When Gary Glitter dies will they praise him as a great humanitarian etc, When really he was a pervert.
If you buy Micheal Jackson products you buy into Child abuse and molestation may be even organised child prostitution rings, Who knows?
A similar thing that was reported regarding Piracy, that buying pirate dvds is paying into the Mafia and organised crime.
Hmmm. I wonder whether they will burn or bury, Burning would no doubt produce too many toxins and burying, he’d have to be bio-degradable.
Too many Hypocritical people in this world!!!!
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Sorry about being so Glib But just because someone has money it does not mean he is a god…..
@ 100 and 101 you both need serious medical attention, was it a mutiple break out at the asylum this morning?
None of us can make a judgment on whether MJ was a pedophile or not. Were you there?
I mean, there was so much going on around this case that’s the truth was lost from the start.
first, RIP Michael Jackson.
What Michael Jackson did for Pop Music:
1. The style and quality of the “Billie Jean” video forced white racist ran MTV networks to accept
the fact that Black Artist were viable commodities, and could bring in revenue more so than the re-runs of Billy Idol and Led Zepplin they played day in and day out.
2. Michael Jackson’s superstar concert tours
( Thriller tour, and Victory tour) showed that
Black Artists could and do sell out hugely
large venue, and his showmanship
in his concerts meant that other Artists
had to take it to the next level,
in competing with the pyrotechnics, the
dancers, the set production, etc.
RIP Michael Jackson the King of Pop who
changed the landscape of Popular music
in these ways and more. Respect due.
now go back to stealing his works and
get off your soapboxes people…..
stupid u guys and girl if u say bad things bout michael,if u think he moles child that is yo think,he got billions of dollar why he wanna moles?he could give money to play,shit u all..think like that
@ revolution
thats what courts of law are for ..right? like the one he dodged…
all the perverts that have been convicted of this horrible crime this year, where you there? No but they were still convicted none the less…on evidence, something that was brought to his trial by the relevant authorities.
once the settlement was agreed by both parties, the case was dropped – IRRESPECTIVE of the FACTS in evidence
have you actually seen the volume of alegations against this man over many many years (not just the high profile ones seen in the media)
and all involve highly dubious (at best) relationships/behaviour with/towards children
there is no doubt that this mans socialization was bad (no pun intended) and to that extent a have pity towards him, but his actions were concious choices on his part and imo can in no way resemble normal social behaviour towards minors from an adult
indeed it is really sad story for one to listen but memories will still remain in us.Adieu micheal!!
omg 104 just watched a documentary
Censorship Sucks Balls and dairRIAA you’re both bent over nimrods taking it and not even realizing it, excuse but yes as with everyone else in the 80s i followed but once you cross that line of being an ADULT and having too-close of a relationship, that first shouldn’t even start, with CHILDREN than there is something wrong with you, we’re not talking about if it was a matter of opinion, it is simply WRONG, you crossed the line between healthy and sick. and yes there is a line, and again don’t give me that “matter of opinion” bull. if you do have the feeling of only being with the company of young humans to feel good than you need to seek help, there is nothing wrong about changing and getting help, acceptance is what f-cks everyone up. and in any case the mans mind was fried from all the drugs he must have ingested one way or the other, if you don’t believe that a saint like micheal never touched that, oh ya he’s pure, we all take or took sh-t, and this guy went again over the edge. if you can’t control yourself then there is no respect merited.
ha! if you can’t deal with the dope you blowin’ then get out the ball game
Wow revolution should definitely try to get the “most fcked in the @ss award”.
WHAT?? O.O
Has MJ ever been convicted? If not, he’s innocent. And
(source wiki)
Yo, this “surge” the culprit of eztv.it being down?
I’m not responsible for your bad punctuation saying otherwise.
Really did you saw the evidence? was you there? anybody have physical evidence and the “right” context for that evidence?
Because if you don’t the only thing you are is somebody that jump to conclusions based in flimsy allegations and you probably will swear that it is true even don’t have one piece of hard proof of what you say and that says a lot about your character. Resuming you are part of the problem being an EMO guy who looses the rational part off his brain when talking about things he identify with it…oops! I hope you were not molested as a child.
If I give you an answer to that question the only thing I would have done is jump to a conclusion to which I have no way of knowing for certain.
Again you conclude something for what you have no way of knowing the reasons behind. Because you can’t imagine any other outcome or reason it doesn’t mean it does not have a different reason there are other possiblities that are in the realm of the possible but you seem inclined to ignore all possibilities except one why?
Could he not be:
- Just tired of all the bad attention?.
- be afraid of a hostile environment?
How could you possibly know what went through his mind? was you there in court? did you get a sense of the climate? Have you been living with the guy and know how he thinks?
I don’t and I will not pretend to understand people. One thing that I do know is people do dumb things for dumb reasons all the time and it doesn’t matter who you are.
Care to prove that to us please. I’m not in the habit of believing people solely on their word there are people who just lie you know.
That maybe or could have gone the other way to because much of what you cited as proof was circumstantial evidence that do not point to criminal behavior maybe inappropriate but not criminal and all the “alleged facts” like touching as far as I know it were never proved.
The kid could be lying and we will never know as we will never know why a father of a molested child would settle for money instead of jail time.
MJ was a great talent, no doubt about it, and if you do doubt it, you are a fool, the proof is out there, in media called music. Go listen.
@56. You say MJ didn’t do anything to contribute to music, how myopic and laced in bs you are. I’ll enlighten you.
Before MJ, there was no one who could both, compose, sing and dance to his own music, (apart from James Brown). MJ established the music video as a powerful thing, to push music into peoples minds with Thriller. Before Thriller, no one bothered to put so much effort and creativity into a music video, and this is why its held as a benchmark that transform how we think about music. There’d probably be no more MTV and other music channels without him.
His amazing dancing is celebrated and influences many artists, who before could just sing, but not dance for shit. Through choreographers who have learned his dance techniques over the years, a singer that can’t dance, can now incorporate the two together, making a better performance for the people if they choose to do so. Thus, dance choreography is a big part of music like never before. Look at Usher, JT as examples, even if you don’t like them.
Before MJ, no other artist had managed to meld so many different styles of music into his work either. He did, motown, soul, pop, rock, dance etc. The only other person who comes this close is Madonna, who in similarity to MJ and Prince, also pioneered the concept of artistic reinvention of ones self.
As for the alledged peado stuff, I don’t believe he did anything wrong inappropriate, but the way society works, in a global media laced world more aware of paedophiles, is to mistrust, judge and condemn, and an accusation is enough. If there was conclusive evidence to suggest him of such abuse, beyond a reasonable doubt, and also baring the kind of unique person MJ was (lets face it, he was uniquely weird, among anyone on the planet), then I’d believe it. MJ was stupid and in his child like way learned the hard way, and was forver trapped in ‘the hedgehogs dilemma.’ Like a new kid at school, he wants to make friends, but has been burned before many times, so is reluctant. When he achieved any friendships, his loneliness more than likely painted him in a very desperate, negative light.
Famous child molesters like Gary Glitter are ofcourse, without a doubt, just that. GG possessed a huge collection of child porn, something 99% of paedos usually have. MJ had some porn (most adults do at some point in their lives) but none of it was kiddie porn (go and check if you must). MJ even had some bizarre granny porn, which was quite funny at the time, but no kid stuff. GG once he was convicted and served time, went back to his paedo ways afterwards. No sign of such behaviour from MJ, as he learned a valuable lesson. Be careful who you trust, even kids and their parents.
As for MJ, I think he ended up in the trap many of us fear in life, which is being lonely, on a mountain of his success and money. These things mean little or nothing, if you don’t have anyone to share them with. I guess its a good thing he had some kids to continue his legacy, no matter the bizarrely they were conceived.
The positive aspects of MJs demise are that, those who might not have listened to all of his music will possibly now do so. Hey, I’m 31 and even I haven’t heard all of it, as not all of it has been cut onto albums. Investingating his early work, is a real bit of time traveling fun.
Lastly, I feel the truth will come out about the allegations, and hopefully clear his name in everyone’s mind for good. Those who are enjoying his money, are now more inclined to speak out (unless applied conditions stop them). Again to us well/better rounded adults, a huge pay off may have seemed like an admition of guilty, but MJ was not a well rounded adult like us and never has been. In his fragile state and forever childlike mindset, it might have seemed like a good idea. But in a post OJ world, it again looked bad, that those with money get away with everything.
I think it would have been more of a tragedy, had MJ dies in jail, had things gone badly.
The lot of child actors/stars rarely ends up well, and MJ was another casualty. Broken family, too much money and not enough sense are classic traits. Feel free to google child stars and where they are now. The temptations of success and its trappings usually take them down dark paths, where many do not escape, kudos to those that do.
The moral of this story, is for parents of stars to not be such assholes. We need only look at Brittany Spears to see what can happen to a star, if the media wolves are allowed to get their bites, in the wake of family n’friend fallout. With stable supporting, non asshole parents or parent, those that young seeds stand the chance of florishing against the odds. Recent examples, you can look around to see.
So, a word to the wise. If you plan on making your child a star, be prepared, don’t be an asshole, listen to your kids as well as advising them, and don’t forget to be a parent. A dangerous world of drugs, booze and fake friends are waiting to exploit them. Sure, the power obtained through fame can corrupt, to a degree of splitting a family (as happened with MJ and others), but education can help here, by learning from the experiences of those that have success then fall from grace, to drugs etc.
Evidence against MJ, now, I’d like to hear/see. Now he’s dead, don’t you think those that have alledgedly been done wrong, would step forward and use such proof? They won’t because they don’t have anything tangible, and if they do have any, they are just as guilty as MJ, for witholding it and taking any payment over such allegations. They might as well rent their kids out for abuse, yet no one ever mentions this. Out of sight more than MJ, I guess.
Truth is humans are greedy. If offered life changing money, all of us here would back down too, and if you wouldn’t you are indeed a saint. Most of us will never experience such options, for an easier life, so its easy to say you wouldn’t take the cash.
I wonder what Jordy Chandler is thinking right now, as he sips champagne? Not much I bet, except a twinge of guilt maybe. Can’t wait til he gets interviewed.
Whatever happens, even if some still think of MJ as guilty, IMO, he earned his spurs over 45 years of hard work (stars these days don’t last that long), despite his broken personal life. He gave a lot and took very little for himself. Few of us, will live to achieve what he did in our lifetimes.
In death, I forgive him for all his crazy, stupid bs, because the good by far outweighs the bad.
MJ and Gary Glitter, are poles, neigh galaxies apart in talent and crazy personal life bs.
Now, I wonder if I can actually get some MJ albums still. Everywhere is selling out, I think. Might have to torrent some.
@ 117 ***yawn*** play with the words all you want,my points stand, care to do some reading on court transcripts, and proffessional evidence gathering on the case, i believe the only thing you have achieved is underlining the need for birth control
All the disk of Michael Jackson are here
http://www.p2pfinder.com/torrents/Michael-Jackson.html
Incredible life an work
Hey, I said what I have to say. And a lot of what I said is true, especially about his influences on music, video, dancing etc. The rest you can of course, you argue/debate til cows come home, turn to leather jackets and serve you burgers.
Agree or disagree, its up to you, but its over anyway (even with the courts etc) and he’s gone now. Deal with it or cry about it (your choice).
RIP, MJ
Peace
You will believe in what you want to believe and that is your right, but until you can prove it without a doubt with hard evidence of any wrong doing you just can’t go and be assertive of his guilt or anyone else for that matter. Do it in another fashion let room for other explanation or face the very real possibility of being made a fool in public.
What you remind me is something that happens everyday all around the world, people loose things and are certain that somebody did it and accuse that person of doing something wrong only to discover the missing item in somewhere else they put it in and forgot about it.
That is why I want to see proof before saying anything and that is why without a smoking gun I have very strong reservations about this type of comments that state a suspicion or theory as true facts and have no evidence to back it up.
good riddance
is it just me or was it very difficult to look at him the last couple of years…my evidence is my own eyes…downright creepy and uncomfortable to gaze upon.
see you in hell m.j.
Really people go so bizarre after a celebrity dies but MJ was not a celebrity he was once in a life phenomenon like a comet whom you earn to all your life also his music was gr8 you could rate in the same line as Elvis & The Beatles and now all this talk about he being a child molester is useless and foolish because he is gone forever and now only his music lives people and the media never respected his privacy during his life he was always in the news in the media for all the wrong reasons at least respect him when he has passed on and stop the rubbish talk.
R.I.P the King Of Pop you live forever.
im just so upset he was a great singer to me.
and i want to remember him for how
good singer he was
r.i.p king of pop will never take the stage again
I can’t believe we are now in a world without Michael. It happened so fast, gone too soon. He was always smiling, but Im sure he was bleeding for too long…
if MJ was playing with little boys so much as some of u suggest ur wrong… he does not fit the MO… with the 100’s of kids going to his Never Land and staying with him there would have been a lot more molestation reports then then only 2…
just like when the catholic ministers got busted (several yrs ago)there was always a lot of cases not just 1 or 2… if mj committed these crimes there would have been a lot more cases… only 1 or 2 tells me these where money hungry ppl…
&104 you have a warped mind my friend… on all aspects…Mother Teressa was given more meadea from where i stand then Diana ever got in regards to whom they where and what they did…u are a fool to say u are supporting child abuse by buying his music… so now u say his whole family is child abusers as well? because the money no longer goes into jackson hands…
and the RIAA to the Mafia.. im sorry u can not see the relation there… the RIAA preforms as if it is a gov agency when it is nothing more then a company! when a company takes on this characteristic there is something wrong with our gov if it goes unchecked and thus far it has… no one has empowered the RIAA as a law body of the USA yet they have bribed unconstitutional laws into enforcement… even though laws are sometimes written to criminalize a thing for a time does not make everyone a criminal… but in ur eyes bad things only happen to bad ppl? for laws to change to better the individual there must always be some major circumstances happening to remove that power from the rich… such as the the companies that contract the RIAA… they have been rich pigs for too many years… their days are numbered! their whole purpose is obvious they see the threat of the sharing on line not for the loss of sales but for the exact opposite… but to ppl that are not enslaved to them (the contracted companies of the RIAA)!!!
I love u M jackson even people say u are death but i still believe u will one day come back alive but i will pray for God to bless u for this shot time that we are going to missed u.ur music have ever make us happy i which for the shot time that u will be absence u shuld give ur experince to ur sister so that she will continue to make us happy we love u father of pop music and u will always be the creator of pop music I LOVE U DADDY
Who thinks the riaa will hold onto the copyrights for another 100 years?
Amazing how little of the Legal system people understand and that ignorance makes them look incredibly stupid.
There is Criminal & Civil Courts. Only a DA (ADA,AG,Etc) can bring Criminal charges. A person can bring a Civil case only for $$$$$.
A person would get no warning just a lot of cops breaking down the door. No time to remove evidence. A Celebrity would be told in advance they are coming. Plenty of time to remove evidence.
The standard for arrest,search or other warrants is much higher for a celebrity as judges and others are afraid of what may happen if they are wrong. The huge lawsuits from said celebrity.
The DA’s (ADA,AG,etc) require not “Beyond Reasonable Doubt” but “2,000% Proof”. They will not bring a case unless they have this proof. First, the Big $$$ Lawyers (ie O.J. Case) can find any little “crack” in the evidence and exploit it. Second, Mindless people who think “This great celebrity could not have done that!” are extremely hard to convince. The think this Celebrity who has done so much good “Blah Blah Blah BS” should not have to go to jail. So even if they think s/he did it they will not apply anything serious to the Celeb.
It is easier to get evidence into a Civil case than a Criminal one. Add to that the above that they will not put the Celeb in Jail, but they will dole out a cash award.
Bottom line is people have *No Choices* about Jail time etc. They can only pray that a DA (ADA,AG,Etc) will prosecute the case. In addition if someone is found to be at fault in a Civil trial that can help a Criminal trial. So winning a Civil case before any Criminal case is filed can make it easier for that Criminal case.
People can settle for any number of reasons, they feel the money is enough to make a point to the accused, maybe the case is not that strong, maybe they feel no jury will award anything because of Celeb status, and probably the reason most are settled their attorney said “I will not take this case to court this is the most $$$ we (sic I will) will get” (since they usually get a % of the award, unless it is done pro bono, which is rare). So no attorney no court day! So in the end most people just settle since they have little real options.
At the end of the end of the day people can say He did or did not do it. But all those little kids who are unrelated to each other, who where at neverland at different times and who say the same thing. I don’t believe the lawyers, the parents, the media, but what I do believe is the kids. The more you add up the coincidences the more it becomes less likely to be a fabrication.
@132 Jun 28, 2009 at 21:09 by Todem:
Translation:
There was never real evidence against MJ so he walked away and ignored all the others that after the first one did try to milk it for more LoL
Hey Mulder bring us some real proof that we can all agree is incontestable and no one will doubt you any more but relying on “I want to believe in the kids” are just not going to cut it because assumptions, theories and suspicions are not really proof of any wrong doing they are for the most part the fruits from are own bias towards something.
@133 wow the arrogance, your now translating for others, what a guy, who’s making the presumtions now.
wether you like it or not these are people opinions, no one has to convince you…and more so statements of children who where present
@129 you think he personally met everyone who went to his lair?
children who are coached to make false allegations of this nature are easily caught out by trained professionals, any psychologist trained/specializing in the field of abuse will also tell you that victims use particular language and patterns when describing events of abuse, this case (the 1st) the defendant was involved with all these agencies ( i believe its a legal requirement) pre-trial and the case proceeded
how many times, there was REAl proof not insinuations or dubious circumstantial evidence (although there has been years worth of circumstantial evidence)obtained by experts in their fields and was presented in a court of law, which did not come to a conclusion as it was circumvented by a settlement agreement, therefore negating any need for the court to pass judgment and sentence
and before you bleat – show me the money- routine, go look yourself that way no ones imposing their view on you, delicate creature that you seem to be.
you’ll see soon enough as it all creeps out, now the guy’s passed on, with legal treats removed.
i mean so far we’ve had direct quotes from a long time nanny (over a decade with the family) citing that his OWN children where terrified of him, he was emotional distant from them, and thought it was hilarious to regularly pretend he was dead around them – what a guy/role model
RIP Michael Jackson.. i really liked his music and few days ago that i know that Michael died i became a fan again ( i’m a 8 yrs old fan..) i had really go to a computer shop to listen to his music its so entertaining ( or any spelling idk whats the spelling…….)
Michael Jackson was killed by Martin Bashir and his “negative and pseudo-friendly ” document in which was suggest an Idea that Michael Jackson is pedophile .Than Michael Jackson withdrew from seclusion and started taking drugs very much.
very tragic
All this post goes to show how stupid and ignorant some ppl are america is suppose to be the role model for the word lol i cant stop but laugh at you now
MICHEAL JACKSON was the most sweetest and kind person ever to face the earth do u see any stars doing what he has done he is a legend he did not have to sell his sexuality or swear or make a crime scene in his video just to sell albums he sold cause he was good
and the media they could not find anything dirty on him so they invent it.if they had portrayed Micheal for what he was he could have done many more do u see any of the stars dnating 3 hundred million dollars to charity name another star who would sell tickets make millions and give all to charity none.
They should have made him go ti iran or madagascar made an appearance i would bet my life that all the crime would have stop i would bet my life that the impact he had on ppl
he deserves to be respected and he deserve his peace now just leave him be
@ seychelles your a w@nk blob, an no mistake!
the man cultivated an image of persecution, so that damaged, needy, unstable people like you would feed in to it, the only thing he wanted was your worship oh and your cash
GROW UP
@ 139
By reading your respond you are the dammaged one You need help.
By the way who told you u can get out of your cave ?
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