So who is the real thief?

They did the work.
They made a product people want.
They have businesses worldwide using what they created.Thus, they get to get as rich from it is they can.

NOTE that there is nothing stopping the ignorant thieves from actually developing their own software if they hate Microsoft so much.

NOTE that you have no right to steal and use what other people legally own, and created by hardwork, and intelligence.

The rationalizations on here are just plain sad.

If Microsoft is so bad then I suppose people would stop using their OS and software, but that is very far from the case.

Go out and achieve something instead of jealously ranting against companies who have achieved.

Marius, as a developer let me tell you something, I make a living on my work and it doesn’t bother me if 99% of the users have my software. The more public have it the better, more distribution, awareness and all that. As long as 1% are paying for it then I am content and I can live with that.

It’s the greedy corporate fat cats who wants the IP down everyone’s throat. The real workers, the lower-level underpaid developers are not at all fussed about IP. We have a development team of 12. Not one of them will agree with you.

Oh, yeah, because the pirating of a few thousand copies of on OBSOLETE program will hurt Microsoft that badly.

hiro81, as a developer let me tell you something. If you’d be making a living on creating intelectual property, you would actually agree with me. It’s no one but you that fails to realize that.

You fail to understand theft as a legal concept is keyed to a deprivation of property, ie: your tv is stolen and you may no longer make use of it. Copyright infringement such as making illegal copies of a MS operating system does not deprive the original owner of its use, and as such is not theft.

By confusing these distinctly different legal differences you demonstrate a profound ignorance of the importance of language and the law. lrn2lrn

You all tend to forget that piracy is a theft.

Copyright infringement != theft.

You don’t go to your local supermarket and steal the most expensive food and drinks just cause you theoretically might get away with it.

You don’t compare the actual theft of a physical object with the downloading of a digital file. Wholly separate things.

One should use cheaper, GPL or free sofware.

Yes.

Just like watching sattelite tv via cardsharing is illegal for instance.

What is cardsharing? Is that anything like letting someone else use your TV signal? What on Earth is wrong with that, if so? It’s just like letting someone else come over and watch your TV.

Trust me, if you were a developer or someone related to this field making a living solely on creating intelectual property, you would understand this.

You would also be using a relatively unreliable business model: charging for copies of something that is not limited in supply.

Let’s say I replicate your entire hard disk with essential data that makes your living. Would you still not call this a theft?

Give me one real-world example where someone copying the contents of my hard drive leads to me being out of business. (Note: the contents must actually fall under intellectual property law.)

i also want to squash any idea that free donations on a free open site are anything greater than 0.00001% of the monthly visitor count. no exaggeration even a big site struggles to pay the bills and it is no party for the operator. swallow the truth that people are not spending their hard earned cash on bittorrent. look how Vuze backs out of paid services and the MAFIAA back out of Bittorrent Inc

if it was the case that 0.01% of visitors were making a donation, if it was the case that advertising pays, would it not also be the case that the MAFIAA with all their resources would erect their own beautiful perfect torrent site with every kind of content available because there was money in this game?

truth is being a torrent admin is about sacrifice and serving the people in the world who do not have cash … or when they do have cash then buy the real thing

http://www.h33t.com after 4 weeks of hell is finally getting the new code under control … 90% done dudes, thanks for the patience

Linux annoys me.
They think diversity is a stength but in this case its not!!
They lack a standard having 2 recompile stuff for every linux distro. Let alone drivers and manuals xD

Yeah mate, you just made exactly no sense. Let’s say I replicate your entire hard disk with essential data that makes your living. Would you still not call this a theft? Heh..

See, that’s another case how hypocrite you all leeching monkeys are.

I Lurv Hack1nt0sh!

Also I hav one p3nis.

Wheeeee!

Theft is when you take someone’s property away from them without their consent. Filesharing is when you virtually replicate a piece of property and then take only the replicated copy, which fails completely to qualify as theft for the obvious reason that nobody has had their property taken away from them, virtual or otherwise.

Copying what doesn’t belong to you is a theft. Just like watching sattelite tv via cardsharing is illegal for instance. Trust me, if you were a developer or someone related to this field making a living solely on creating intelectual property, you would understand this.

It’s a simple fact that most people tend to forget. Most of you guys here are pathetic average Joes that only care about leeching mp3 album, a CAM version of latest movie or download software that you don’t have clue how to use. I really hope by this case when Linkomanija gets shut down more people will understand this.

I suggest you take your pink glasses off. Stop being such hypocrites when it comes to piracy and warez. You all tend to forget that piracy is a theft. Here’s a good example why. You don’t go to your local supermarket and steal the most expensive food and drinks just cause you theoretically might get away with it. No, instead you buy what you can afford. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that same applies to piracy. One should use cheaper, GPL or free sofware.

With that said, a few months from now on and your beloved torrent tracker will be history.

People are stupid not to use it.

But the way Sweden has been going lately, I guess all it takes is a phone call from the US ambassador to the Swedish head of police.
Pathetic.

there is a few torrent sites in the top 100

You do know that there’s a program called WINE that lets you run Windows apps under Linux and BSD, right?

Russ

As for M$ Office vs OpenOffice… Give me a break. Open Office is utter crap. I tried it and the only thing that ‘met’ my expectations was the spreadsheet one and for less complex stuff. The PowerPoint similar is plain crap.

You see, I’m not an hypocrite. I do use Windows and Office a lot so I did buy them despite the insanely expensive price M$ asks for them. But that’s it for me, I’m not buying any other software for the next 5 years – the minimum period I believe the software should last. Office 2010 is right there and it’s been less than 3 years. Vista was a fiasco and I used it for less than 2 years. Sorry, my money has limits.

As for the open source OS, Ubuntu is a good alternative. Very good if u ask me. But it doesn’t run games and many Windows applications. So we don’t have much of a choice but to use windows in those cases. When the ability to choose is taken away from me, that’s when there is a monopoly and that’s when file sharing will be the way to go. Pretty simple.

I thought I’d never buy licenses for programs such as mIRC or WinRar but then I found out that they are forever, doesn’t matter how many updates are released. The result? I bought them both (but I’m still using the illegal versions I downloaded from TPB, ironically).

Last but not least, if M$ wants to see less piracy they’ll have to reduce the prices. $30-$50 should be far enough for one to get Windows and install on both his desktop and notebook. Any other path they choose, including suing ppl, will end up in failure and their image being destroyed.

Haven’t installed that pos since Google Docs came out…

I can live with that :D

Linux? OS X is built on Unix.

Although Darwin is free and opensource so you still have a point, kind of. Maybe.

@76

Yeah! Hey, did you know the DOJ only put Microsoft on trial because they thought it was cool, too? True fact.

Huh? Denial? What’s that?

anyway screw ms ,, try “back|track”
http://www.backtrack-linux.org/

No ca$h for Micro$oft.

Using office nowadays is a crime against reason!
http://openoffice.org/