i will support you by downloading many torrents

Everything is about money, and until these dumb tossers can make their living from closing torrent sites they will push it hard, just like spammers.

There are spammers who do spam for living, so whats wrong with that? Let’s make whatever court crap order about 500.000 EURO, how can normal ppl expect that any private person has this amount to pay it back? They can’t they just simply going to jail the person and look for the next vic, to ruin his life.

This is where the humanity goes, with the growing number of population, everyone needs to keep a job, but there are not as much jobs as much people. Some restriction, mass genocide would make the world better, but just don’t believe me and suffer, fucking idiots.

PS: Thanks for TeH register deleting my comments, exactly this is what I would talk about, _USELESS PEOPLE_ like the admins there, that’s what we have so many of

wrong

facilitation is not unlawful, look at the prevalence of hardware and systems capable of copying, every home and school has them

this case can swing both ways depending upon the Judicial background in Nederland. however, the risks to BREIN are extremely high. if they lose the case they set a potential European precedent for indexers

the problem for BREIN is that filtering content has not been used in the USA or anywhere as a legal argument because filtering is considered inoperable technically and on an information level impossible

why would BREIN bring such a high risk case? i have a couple of ideas:

- their pay masters are growing impatient with lack of progress towards closure and they have run out of tactical options with Mininova. BREIN’s MAFIAA bosses in America are undoubtedly frustrated and must have turned on the pressure for the poor guys at BREIN to act in such a clearly bizarre way

- they have their sights on the next anti-p2p business model in an effort to secure their continued funding from the USA. the IFPI is attempting to force European ISP’s to send warnings to customers whom the IFPI has spied are sharing their copyright content. the way they see it working is agencies spy on the networks and tell the ISP’s about their evil customers. someone, somewhere, has sold Hollywood the idea of a technical solution to identifying the legal content of file transfers by bittorrent. this involves mass logging of trackers, verification of each individual file, and linking to a massive db containing all copyright owner details. unless they take a shortcut

economically, the digital content that is being shared is not worth proper effective DRM. so how can it be worth filtering? they have refused protection at source … they are expecting mininova to carry the cost? that is the most extreme form of filtering and that is not going to happen

Wrong.

Before the filesharing boom, it would have been an epic feat to share music with just 100 people, and you’d have to pocket the cost of buying 100 blank tapes. But these days, you can share music with tens of millions of people at zero cost to yourself, and the effort it requires is simply fucking trivial.

The scale of distribution has become so wide and far-reaching that the entire concept of copyright is no longer valid. It may still exist on paper, but in the real world, copyright is dead and buried. And it has been for quite some time.

So, I’m just waiting with baited breath for that Wealthy Patron system of yours to materialize and for musical freedom to be squelched.

But so far, approximately 10 years have passed, and there are still no signs of your predictions coming true.

Cutting themselves off from the RIAA does not mean that musicians don’t want to be paid for their recorded music.

No shit. Cutting themselves off from the RIAA means that musicians DO want to be paid for their recorded music, or at least, don’t want to be robbed by the cartels. However, as the last 10 odd years have demonstrated, the death of copyright has not proved itself an obstacle towards musicians getting payed for their work.

If your doom-and-gloom theory held any merit, it would have come true a very long time ago.

Maybe BREIN should sue all the plice forces as there ‘business model’ is based one illegal activity one might say. What about gambling? maybe they should start hammering all the gambling sites becos thats illegal in some places too.

Its such tenuis link for them to say anything like Mininova’s business model is based on “illegal activity”. 100% total joke. A judge with any sense will shootdown BREIN in a court of law.

Mininova itself facilitates this process because, unlike Google, they allow people to upload their own torrent files. Furthermore, Mininova (again unlike Google) moderate the process, thus it is not a passive, automated process.

Yes, I’m a lawyer!