Comments on: Modified 3 Strikes Back on Agenda For New Zealand Pirates

By: Bobe-On

Bobe-On — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:48:55 +0000

Admitted layperson’s hypothesis :)
…

Spectrum Reform (better frequencies) (Google it) + Wireless Mesh Networks (minus corporate ISP’s) = Freedom (or closer to it)

Given sufficient mesh clouds (even using cellphones, etc.) and maybe some special community-run ISP’s for the long-distance “jumps”, I suspect it might be possible to bypass corporate ISP backbones altogether.

Near-future maybe, but what does the law do when that happens? When everyone is simply exchanging info via their own digital devices?

By: Phill

Phill — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:41:52 +0000

After reviewing the ‘3 strikes’ law I have discovered its actually a 1 strike law.

1 letter, then pretty much straight to the tribunal if they aren’t satisfied/on second notice.

Putting up a new article about this?

By: klitoratii

klitoratii — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:53:09 +0000

this law will be thrown out by the new zealand public just like section 92a was. its just national trying to look tough on copyright abuse. and to those fuckers saying nz is a shit place to live you’re retarded. nz is a fantastic place to live, best bud in the world other than british columbia. nuff said.

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[...] Modified 3 Strikes Back on Agenda For New Zealand Pirates After the previous Labour government failed in its attempts to set up an ISP code of practice to deal with copyright infringements via section 92a of the Copyright Act, today sees new proposals revealed. ISPs won’t be expected to police their networks, but instead decisions – including 3 strikes – will be made by the Copyright Tribunal. [...]

By: MMx

MMx — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:19:08 +0000

Dont governments have real work to do?

I mean really democracy doesn’t mean big corporations should have control of our legal system. Laws are meant to protect the public not corporations at the expense of the people….

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:46:10 +0000

45 Jul 15, 2009 at 05:42 by Anonymous

so whats the best way to make it difficult for these bastards to know what im doing??

You go anonymous, encrypted and decentralized.

http://www.p2pforums.com/viewforum.php?f=102&sid=41e1e99410b75fd8aaa439cac4035784

By: New Zealand: New Copyright Law Still Involves Kicking People Off The Internet… But With A Bit More Oversight | DodaPedia

Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:44:30 +0000

[...] way, it should probably come as little to no surprise that the proposals now being put forth really aren’t all that different than what was there before. After all, the industry needs to have its laws. The people… not so much. The major [...]

By: New Zealand » Current News Trends

New Zealand » Current News Trends — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:44:37 +0000

[...] After the previous Labour government failed in its attempts to set up an ISP code of practice to deal with copyright infringements via section 92a of the Copyright Act, today sees new proposals revealed. ISPs won’t be expected to police their networks, but instead decisions – including 3 strikes – will be made by the Copyright Tribunal. Original Story Link [...]

By: Pirates » Current News Trends

Pirates » Current News Trends — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:59:39 +0000

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:42:13 +0000

so whats the best way to make it difficult for these bastards to know what im doing??
and say the internet plan is under my parents name and im doing the downloading what happens then??
gna start dl my torrents as rar as well!do i have to unzip to be able to seed though???

By: Phill

Phill — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:05:10 +0000

In ways this is worse.

Dragged through a legal process with shared costs, little/no requirement for evidence, and to top it of theres still the assumption of guilt.

Hell the law isnt even fit to be passed onto a select committee in its current state, its missing so many important details that it belongs on the back of a napkin.

By: free4all

free4all — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:23:49 +0000

As a N.Zr i’m appalled this is even being considered by our government.I am ashamed to admit i helped vote these cretins in.I won’t be making that mistake again though.

Since the escalation of infringment to a criminal matter i’ve downloaded and shared even more and i’ve taught a number of ppl to do the same,so fuck you John Key!

By: SlipKn0t

SlipKn0t — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:17:53 +0000

I keep seeing people mention private trackers and the like. WTF are you talking about? Like, your buddy next door has a tracker for torrents that only he and you are on? Duh. Once people you know start using a tracker or a torrent site, it ceases to be private. Any moron from the RIAA could join it and then, poof, infiltrated. I would LOVE to find an actual private torrent site, but methinks they are pie in the sky. They do not exist. If they did, then no one would know about them, eh? And if you join it, then it isn’t private anymore. Can we sue the assholes at the RIAA or MPAA for harrassment or causing stress in our lives? LOL.

By: Three strikes returns from the dead in New Zealand « Amused Cynicism

Three strikes returns from the dead in New Zealand « Amused Cynicism — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:12:02 +0000

[...] New Zealand’s controversial 3-strikes law, that was abandoned earlier this year, is making a comeback: In 2008, the New Zealand government passed so-called ‘3-strike’ legislation designed to have [...]

By: Matthew Holloway

Matthew Holloway — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:06:16 +0000

Hi folks, it’s Matthew Holloway from the Creative Freedom Foundation here…

Just so you know that quote from me was before the release of any information and was more of an theoretical response to a magazine article in the National Business Review saying that a tribunal would useless because it would be swamped with cases. Naturally I responded saying that there are ways of dealing with that.

Later that day the draft proposal came out.

Just to give some history… the previous version of s92A was based on allegations of copyright infringement and whether an ISP would disconnect you (under risk of being a secondary copyright infringer themselves!). It also called for internet termination. Even if the use was legal the threats could be used to take down internet connections, much like how YouTube takes down videos.

We called this Guilt Upon Accusation.

That this new proposal has due process and an independent government body, like the courts, is an improvement over what was there.

There are however some significant issues ahead such as the choice of Internet Termination, that false accusations receive no punishment, and so on.

We’ve responded to the draft proposal here:
http://creativefreedom.org.nz/story.html?id=347

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By: BuggerMeButtocks

BuggerMeButtocks — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:06:11 +0000

Dont mention it…

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Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:40:39 +0000

[...] Either way, it should probably come as little to no surprise that the proposals now being put forth really aren’t all that different than what was there before. After all, the industry needs to have its laws. The people… not so much. The major difference is [...]

By: Ebumboo

Ebumboo — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:15:33 +0000

As soon as you get a notice, encrypt headers.

Thank you very much.