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		<title>By: zarmoo</title>
		<link>/moozar-aims-to-turn-pirates-into-paying-customers-100214/#comment-641364</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zarmoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... you lost me at &quot;20% handling fee&quot;.

Like we don&#039;t have enough middle men already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; you lost me at &#8220;20% handling fee&#8221;.</p>
<p>Like we don&#8217;t have enough middle men already.</p>
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		<title>By: Erm</title>
		<link>/moozar-aims-to-turn-pirates-into-paying-customers-100214/#comment-641350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most pointless service ever.

1. Guilt from what? Those people that download because they cannot afford the legal alternative at all can&#039;t be guilty and affluent at the same time..

2. The point made in the article. If you&#039;re going to pay, why have a middleman and why not pay a price equal to a legal purchase IF YOU CAN?

Which leads to 
3. Downloading should and is mostly done by people who cannot keep up with the 50.000 new things to buy every day, yet still want access to cultural artefacts.
As long as no FLATRATE SOLUTION is offered, they will continue to indulge via &quot;illegal&quot; downloading.

Offer a flatrate solution for the modern consumer and all this becomes legal and an income stream instead of criminals and &quot;lost sales&quot;(..which are purely invented to begin with).

Sorry guys, no flatrate no dice. The money goes to usenet, vpn, rapidsh.t etc instead.

Your loss, industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most pointless service ever.</p>
<p>1. Guilt from what? Those people that download because they cannot afford the legal alternative at all can&#8217;t be guilty and affluent at the same time..</p>
<p>2. The point made in the article. If you&#8217;re going to pay, why have a middleman and why not pay a price equal to a legal purchase IF YOU CAN?</p>
<p>Which leads to<br />
3. Downloading should and is mostly done by people who cannot keep up with the 50.000 new things to buy every day, yet still want access to cultural artefacts.<br />
As long as no FLATRATE SOLUTION is offered, they will continue to indulge via &#8220;illegal&#8221; downloading.</p>
<p>Offer a flatrate solution for the modern consumer and all this becomes legal and an income stream instead of criminals and &#8220;lost sales&#8221;(..which are purely invented to begin with).</p>
<p>Sorry guys, no flatrate no dice. The money goes to usenet, vpn, rapidsh.t etc instead.</p>
<p>Your loss, industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/moozar-aims-to-turn-pirates-into-paying-customers-100214/#comment-641343</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[since downloading is illegal in some countries, I don&#039;t know how many people  there would be that intterested in paying money for the privilege of turning their contact info over to some company, but I&#039;m sure some of the record companies, etc would be willing to buy any names and addresses Moozar did manage to collect!

All in all, it sounds like easy money for lots of lawyers in just consulting fees alone, even if Moozar doesn&#039;t actually get any confessions!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since downloading is illegal in some countries, I don&#8217;t know how many people  there would be that intterested in paying money for the privilege of turning their contact info over to some company, but I&#8217;m sure some of the record companies, etc would be willing to buy any names and addresses Moozar did manage to collect!</p>
<p>All in all, it sounds like easy money for lots of lawyers in just consulting fees alone, even if Moozar doesn&#8217;t actually get any confessions!</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
		<link>/moozar-aims-to-turn-pirates-into-paying-customers-100214/#comment-641333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ricardo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks like Davenport/ACS Law. They just dont send letters to file-sharers, but wait them to come in and pay for the songs and get out free.
But as we ca see, its not completely free. 
&quot;if the donor pays an amount in excess of the minimum fee set by the artist/copyright holder, in effect he/she will have bought an amnesty in the event of a legal dispute. If the amount donated is less than the minimum fee, the downloader is on their own&quot;. 

In other words, if you do not pay what they are demanding, you can face legal problems. And as you created an accout there and sent your personal data, I can bet you will be prossecuted. You are handling your personal data and admiting you downloaded the song. Its the best thing copyright holders could expect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Davenport/ACS Law. They just dont send letters to file-sharers, but wait them to come in and pay for the songs and get out free.<br />
But as we ca see, its not completely free.<br />
&#8220;if the donor pays an amount in excess of the minimum fee set by the artist/copyright holder, in effect he/she will have bought an amnesty in the event of a legal dispute. If the amount donated is less than the minimum fee, the downloader is on their own&#8221;. </p>
<p>In other words, if you do not pay what they are demanding, you can face legal problems. And as you created an accout there and sent your personal data, I can bet you will be prossecuted. You are handling your personal data and admiting you downloaded the song. Its the best thing copyright holders could expect.</p>
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		<title>By: M-RES</title>
		<link>/moozar-aims-to-turn-pirates-into-paying-customers-100214/#comment-640798</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M-RES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Another completely pointless website trying to profit off guilt. When are they actually going to learn that all we need is a download service that will sell digital music for a proper price. We don’t need or want any of these stupidly ridiculous sites and their daft business models. Sell your frickin songs online for 10 or 20p a track and I’ll buy them, lots and lots of them. that will be 10 or 20p more than they would otherwise be getting for it.&lt;blockquote&gt;

“If you don’t sell it for a price that I like, I will steal it” is extortion, which is a crime fyi.&lt;blockquote&gt;

Oh Neo, how wrong you are in your assumptions of the original poster.

You assume that because they won&#039;t pay more than 20p they&#039;ll simply &#039;take&#039; the track, but that&#039;s not what the poster said at all.

They said that they weren&#039;t willing to pay more than 20p per track, which could mean what you assumed, but just as easily (and more likely) it could mean that they wouldn&#039;t download that track at all.

So rather than MAKE 10p or 20p from a happy paying customer, the record labels have simply lost a sale and maybe even a customer and with it, they&#039;ve lost many future sales.

That&#039;s not a crime, it&#039;s not extortion, it&#039;s not really anything beyond a disgruntled consumer expressing their dissatisfaction at the price point currently set for digital media distribution methods.

In a true market-economics system, the value of a product is not what you choose to sell it for, it&#039;s what someone is willing to pay for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Another completely pointless website trying to profit off guilt. When are they actually going to learn that all we need is a download service that will sell digital music for a proper price. We don’t need or want any of these stupidly ridiculous sites and their daft business models. Sell your frickin songs online for 10 or 20p a track and I’ll buy them, lots and lots of them. that will be 10 or 20p more than they would otherwise be getting for it.<br />
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<p>“If you don’t sell it for a price that I like, I will steal it” is extortion, which is a crime fyi.<br />
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<p>Oh Neo, how wrong you are in your assumptions of the original poster.</p>
<p>You assume that because they won&#8217;t pay more than 20p they&#8217;ll simply &#8216;take&#8217; the track, but that&#8217;s not what the poster said at all.</p>
<p>They said that they weren&#8217;t willing to pay more than 20p per track, which could mean what you assumed, but just as easily (and more likely) it could mean that they wouldn&#8217;t download that track at all.</p>
<p>So rather than MAKE 10p or 20p from a happy paying customer, the record labels have simply lost a sale and maybe even a customer and with it, they&#8217;ve lost many future sales.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a crime, it&#8217;s not extortion, it&#8217;s not really anything beyond a disgruntled consumer expressing their dissatisfaction at the price point currently set for digital media distribution methods.</p>
<p>In a true market-economics system, the value of a product is not what you choose to sell it for, it&#8217;s what someone is willing to pay for it.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;MooZar Aims To Turn Pirates Into Paying Customers&quot;

Not going to hapen. We are BOYCOTTING!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MooZar Aims To Turn Pirates Into Paying Customers&#8221;</p>
<p>Not going to hapen. We are BOYCOTTING!</p>
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		<title>By: sceptic</title>
		<link>/moozar-aims-to-turn-pirates-into-paying-customers-100214/#comment-640682</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MooZar is just an other crook like most charity groups. Not transparent enough and 20% is ridiculously high. 3-5% would be ok but 20% is a bad a joke.

Would be cool if there would be a possibility to send money directly to your favorite; film director, actor, singer etc account not to these crooks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MooZar is just an other crook like most charity groups. Not transparent enough and 20% is ridiculously high. 3-5% would be ok but 20% is a bad a joke.</p>
<p>Would be cool if there would be a possibility to send money directly to your favorite; film director, actor, singer etc account not to these crooks.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
		<link>/moozar-aims-to-turn-pirates-into-paying-customers-100214/#comment-640640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a scam.  

MooZar has no agreement with the copyright holders and has no authority to grant any rights to copyrighted material.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a scam.  </p>
<p>MooZar has no agreement with the copyright holders and has no authority to grant any rights to copyrighted material.</p>
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		<title>By: asaf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[asaf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MooZar means &quot;weird&quot; in Hebrew, which fits this initiative quite well]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MooZar means &#8220;weird&#8221; in Hebrew, which fits this initiative quite well</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cujo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i got 2TB of data on the shelf  ,, and i&#039;m really feeling overwelming guilt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got 2TB of data on the shelf  ,, and i&#8217;m really feeling overwelming guilt</p>
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