MediaDefender Phone Call and Gnutella Tracking Database Leaked
Written by Ernesto on September 16, 2007The leak of MediaDefender’s emails caused quite some controversy, Ironically, in a recently leaked phone call, a New York attorney and MediaDefender discuss the security of their email-server. Whilst there is some initial confusion as to where the leak may have originated, they eventually write it off as some technical problem.
The leaked phone call shows that they are unsure about their network protection, their IDS etc. One of the parties is on a VOIP connection which may explain how the leak was obtained.
Similar to the e-mail leak, a group called “MediaDefender-Defenders” released the file, and in the .nfo file we read:
MediaDefender-Defenders proudly presents some more internal MediaDefender stuff… more will follow when time is ready. MediaDefender thinks they’ve shut out their internals from us. Thats what they think.
The subject of the call is rather serious. MediaDefender is apparently involved in an ongoing Child Porn investigation. Their job is to identify child-porn images and report the IPs of the offending computers back to the government. A tricky project since it would mean that they actually have to download and rate the illegal content.
This wont be the end of the leaks according to the “MediaDefender-Defenders”, they claim that more will follow when time is ready.
In addition the the phone call, a huge MySQL database dump from a MediaDefender server was leaked on BitTorrent as well. The database shows tracking and decoy file information for the Gnutella network which is used by P2P clients such as LimeWire.
All this leaked information is a huge blow for MediaDefender, and it will undoubtedly cost them a lot of time and money to clean this up. Interestingly, no evidence can be found that MediaDefender is actually involved in prosecuting or gathering evidence against filesharers (as we reported earlier). Their core business is releasing fake files and polluting the filesharing networks.
Previously: Porn Industry Gloats Over Hollow Win vs BitTorrent
Next: The Pirate Bay blocked in Turkey
128 Responses (Add yours or TrackBack)
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 » Show All
Good job :)
Regarding the date of the call:
It sounds like MDD had access to Jay Mairs’s inbox and that is how MDD joined and recorded the conference call.
If the above is true, then the e-mail in question would be this one:
When: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:00 PM-12:00 PM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada).
Where: Conference Call
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Attendees: Ben Grodsky, Bradley Bartram, Jay Mairs and Michael McCartney
Dial-In: 1-866-866-2244
Participant Code: 3071173#
The long weekend would be labor day weekend. I’m surprised no one pointed this out yet…
While I was excited and thrilled about the news, I’m not anymore, in fact I can’t help being worried, especially after the defenders team released the recorded phone call with the Attorney General also posted in thePirateBay.
While MediaFenders business was mostly about capturing and stopping ripped movies and such for rich business men, allot of their work involved in stopping Pedophiles, and for that to happen they need to have a tight case around him with secrecy, nothing can be compromised, With the Defenders exposing all their act and secret communications, every pedophile who was put behind bars based on evidence from Media Defenders can revoke the sentence and drop the charges against him and effectively get out of prison.
It’s always great to play cops and robbers, but I don’t think for the opportunity to download the Simpson’s movie without consequences or paying a dime is a good enough reason to let such mother fuckers loose on the streets. The defenders showed what a great hackers they are, but not responsible.
Cheers
I3D
Ummm … Ive been thru many of the emails but woh its a huge job for one person. Has anyone actually read anything in the emails regarding the alledged CP investigation? I mean, as far as I can tell the emails refer to movie torrents and there is no reference to CP at all. Though there are a couple of emails which discuss porn generally (which I didnt think was illegal anyway), none actually refer specifically to CP.
I have serious doubts that MediaDefender are part of some legitimate CP investigation - and if they are (were) they werent gonna find pedos by uploading fakes of the latest movie torrents.
Sounds more like their original bullshit that miivi was an internal project that should have been passworded … they simply trying to pull a bit more wool over the eyes of anyone left who might actually believe the rhetoric these guys spin.
Sorry … make that fake movie, music, and software files …. but as I continue to search no emails regarding CP.
Can anyone concur?
You won’t find many emails talking about the CP investigation, because it was a SECRET and ILLEGAL operation. Law enforcement should NEVER outsource those kinds of investigations to private companies, especially ones like Media Defender that are run by complete idiots.
Slyck getting DoS attacked by MediaDefender @ 5:00PM EST? Or is their “Too many Connections” error a coincidence.
In the discussion thread earlier today I recall a mention that some of the IPs for the DoS attack on MDD’s site were traced directly back to MD. That’s certainly a blatant criminal act with no attempt to conceal their guilt. Slyck might’ve been hit for the posters revealing this information.
Yes ther are mails about the CP too.
Few of them are about the program on wich thei identify is the Pic CP or not (The Gui of the software). Than ther are the keywords and all that stuff.
Anyone want to send Ben a little email to see how he’s doing?
Would be cool to have a shot of his home and have his phone number.
Please Remix Michael Bolton’s song
“Said I Loved You But I Lied” with this phone tap or whatever it’s called
Hey, it’s what these sellouts deserve. Might be different if they were career law-enforcement or big-business, but these are young guys who used to be P2P users, then whored themselves out.
I work in information security - networks, business processes, you name it. I have nothing to do with this case.
The anti-child porn effort by the NY AG office is reasonable - there are privacy implications, but given that they’re simply downloading files made available on p2p networks, they’re within legal and moral norms, certainly as most people on this forum would see them. I hope their efforts continue, though I doubt they’ll ever have success enough to make any difference to child porn - that needs to be addressed at the root cause of demand.
However, I deeply hope that they sever their relationship with MediaDefender and find a new partner for their effort. MD has demonstrated complete incompetence; aside from the leakage, the content of of their email and conversation displays only the barest grasp on what their actually doing, and the tone makes me want to slap them silly; if I got that from any supposed business professional I was working with I’d pretty much have to do just that.
Certainly the p2p community has little to fear from these nitwits; alas, neither will the child porn community.
A lot of people seem to be questioning the morality of posting the leaked phone call, but the way I see it, in them releasing this they prove MD’s network is in some way insecure. If MD are, as these phone calls claim, part of a criminal investigation then it would mean a hacker could potentially frame someone for downloading CP. By releasing this recording it should alert the Attorney’s office of this and hopefully their relationship will end and the Attorney’s office will find a more suitable and most probably effective solution.
This does of course cast doubt into any cases MD have provided evidence for in the past.
nutria?theoretical?annotations:burdensome landing …
OWNED!
I was thinking about what someone had said earlier about the certainty of federal prosecution of CP producers if it were even really a priority.
That in light of the lawsuits I’ve been reading about having been dealt to users DOWNLOADING stupid music files (not even uploading) really makes me violent.
As Americans we can really be a bunch of lazy-a$$ whores sometimes.
Where are we as a nation when the prosecution of citizens who sidestep mandatory support of a weak-a$$, decrepit and obnoxiously greedy business model takes priority over securing our own children’s a$$es against perverted exploitation? And because the former is more lucrative than the latter!
A G0#-damned shame.
If CP were handled with a fraction of the obsessive compulsion OJ or Anna Nicole saw I expect CP wouldn’t even be a problem anymore.
tuples clouded:backscatters,coypu Clyde switchboard … Thanks!!!
righting mystics disjunction bearing cusps contrapositive,channellers
im loving ittttt.
6 references to this post
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5] 6 » Show All
Add your response