Comments on: Movie Industry: London ‘Fake-Free Zone’ by 2012

By: Užrašai iš skaitmeninio fronto #10 : nežinau.lt

Užrašai iš skaitmeninio fronto #10 : nežinau.lt — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:33:45 +0000

[...] intelektin?s nuosavyb?s ministras užsimojo iki 2012-?j? olimpiados padaryti London? „miestu be falsifikat?“. Jis turi galvoje DVD su filmais. Matyt kontrabandin? produkcija gali atitraukti sportinink? [...]

By: TerribleTony

TerribleTony — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:38:21 +0000

Amazing that you can get a maximum jail term of ten years for this, yet go out and kill one of more people with your vehicle, and it’s eight years.

Just goes to show how fucked up these systems really are.

By: starz

starz — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:16:59 +0000

Umm, hasn’t anyone been to the Privy Council arguing Stevens v Kabushiki Kaisha Sony Computer Entertainment [2005] HCA 58 in a persuasive precident? Australians enjoy the freedom to modchip their consoles – Sony’s attempt to control what software they can use on their consoles consitutues a violation of the Australian Trade Practices Act (1974). I’m surprised someone hasn’t been there trying to attack DVD regioning yet.

Hopefully Obama’s not up the arse of the RIAA and MPAA, Australia won’t have our neck breathed down to be up their arse too, so our current PM won’t attempt to “legislate” in the next four years, allowing those who work around this bull to circumvent the current laws, and hopefully a couple of crafty Barristers protecting those who have no money (thanks to the governments so-called “recession”) when they try to access overpriced content. I can see the blood on the wall now.

I don’t know how the UK Conservatives fare on copyright, but if they’re anything like it is in Australia, the UK will continue to suffer at the hands of two parties with not the interests of the public (and the arts) in mind.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:37:44 +0000

This is never going to work but reguardless it doesnt really effect us filesharers hopefully more people who buy these Dvd’s will start filesharing instead.

By: UK Makes Pointless Show of Force Against DVD Piracy « MyMediaMusings

UK Makes Pointless Show of Force Against DVD Piracy « MyMediaMusings — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:54:51 +0000

[...] TorrentFreak has word on a big plan to rid London of a horrible scourge: [...]

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:55:20 +0000

I would like to show David Lammy some justice with my shotgun to his face. I’m sure he wouldn’t be so confident then.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:09:15 +0000

used to get a lot of chinese offering badly copied DVD’s then he made a sale with an undercover cop who wanted more… they all got nicked.

not like commercial pirates who do it for money, but as for stopping them, be more useful stopping drugs gangs, but then the druggies shoot back and so guess going for easy target

By: Dare

Dare — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:19:50 +0000

Also,

To those of you MPAA and other anti-pirate agencies…

You’re not fooling anyone with your “Fucking MPAA asshole scum” reverse psychology PROPAGANDA.

I mean REALLY?? Is this what your job has come down to? Pretending to be a pirate just so that you can accuse “pirates” of poor intelligence and lack of morals..

Wow..

By: Anon

Anon — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:17:08 +0000

Lol ok I never illegal Dvds anyway (lets say a certain “site” helps me out. Hint it contains the word bay)

By: Dare

Dare — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:14:55 +0000

Interesting ideas Roze.

Anyway, for ALL of us to be better informed I’d BEG you to consider viewing “Steal This Film II” over at:

“http://www.stealthisfilm.com/Part2/”

Alot of the arguments going back and forth are considered in this movie from a logical theoretical underpinning of historical context.

I hate cliches, but its true: Those who ignore history are destined to repeat the same mistakes..

..Those of you saying we are “trying to clear your conscience” by distinguishing between SELLING and SHARING, I’d BEG you to watch it..watch it grudgingly, but please don’t fail to consider the ideas therein.

Fail to do so, and one day you WILL wake up on the wrong side of the divide only to realise you have imprisoned yourself inside your own ignorance and misplaced pride. Maybe on that day in the future, we are in jail physically for peacefully standing for what we believe in.

At least on that day we will be free from self-loathing & self-torture..

“http://www.stealthisfilm.com/Part2/”

By: Roze

Roze — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:34:46 +0000

@45
Don’t forget: it is not just recouping the costs. It is also the freedom to show things to one’s friends whenever one wishes. The rights holder may place limitations on where it may be available – and the rest of us should have the right to make it available wherever we wish to make it available. Not only is it making it available, but also the freedom to alter/modify it to express one’s own thoughts and opinions on the original (examples: fan-edits, fan-games, musical remixes, etc.). This is called freedom of speech.

Remember: p2p is not just about downloading. It is also about uploading.

Roze

By: Miqueltozzz

Miqueltozzz — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:29:54 +0000

This type of piracy is wrong in my opinion.
Sharing is caring, as it is non-commercial, but when you sell other peoples work, getting money from that with artist/whatever getting nothing is so wrong.

By: Mincedmeat

Mincedmeat — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:34:08 +0000

All I can say to the movie industry is “Good luck a holes”.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:57:03 +0000

Bless! What a blatant lack of appreciation of technological progress. I have NO DOUBT that pirate DVD sales on the streets of London will be gone by 2012!! DVDs, 2012? Really!?

By: Late again

Late again — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:27:19 +0000

For anonymous 10/12

I can’t say that I speak for all by any means, but I believe the distinction is more profit vs recouping of costs with the former being “bad”.

No great love for either from me IF they have the means to do so digitally (p2p) since it’s just reinforcing a need for physical media using up resources and creating unnecessary waste IMHO.

However given the choice, I have far less an issue with a simple recouping of costs (helpful to the less fortunate much as a local thrift shop may provide) vs someone who has a villa w/ vineyard just because they know how to copy disks.

By: n00b

n00b — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:17:55 +0000

Hope they get rid of politicians then!

By: WormSlayer

WormSlayer — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:22:19 +0000

David Lammy – poster-boy for clueless techno-retards everywhere!

By: haha funny

haha funny — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:53:43 +0000

and ironically after i get there with my dvdr burner and laptop
me thinks da minister of lunacy will get the truth handd to him on his platter.

YES burn all kinds mixed cdrs for the olympics folks and spread em all over the benches and seats slip em everywhere

pull a george from the cbc of canada
have fun with stupid

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:37:41 +0000

@10

I for one wouldn’t buy any music that I don’t already buy if I didn’t use BT/Usenet (whether by choice or not).

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:17:33 +0000

Piracy for profit? I don’t feel much sympathy for them. MAFIAA can go after them and leave us filesharers alone.