If it is affecting them so much, why don’t they just ask the torrent sites creators/admin to close down?? Why…..because that is too hard and time consuming, so instead they go after the downloaders themselves. All that does is give an impression of companies who like to bully and intimidate people as opposed to do their jobs and attack the sources of these available files, not the downloaders themselves.

And another thing, if it is supposedly even illegal to make a copy of an existing piece of copyrighted work, why do shops sell blank cd’s, dvd’s, burners and other software used solely for the use of duplicating material. They know it goes on all over the world and yet they never pull the plug on selling those items

Strange isn’t it?? The law, what a joke!! finding real criminals like rapists and murderers and terrorists is just too hard and dangerous a job for you eh? So what do you, go after people for obtaining music and films which in most cases are used for sole use anyway. Yes we shouldn’t be obtaining them this way but theres more serious crimes out there…sheesh!!

The only “piracy” an isp should have to care about is people stealing their internet service..

Australia’s telco market has not been

Any company that tries to sue are going to go after people they cannot get too, Example: Another country, other than the US.

Granted they have tried but ISPs are strict now-in-days and won’t release our information.

Here’s a point of thought of long-time few months ago;

We download Movies.
We download TV Shows.

Providers that complain we do this;

They partner with companies to offer “FREE STREAMING SERVICES”

IMdb: You can watch FREE TV Shows and Movies

YouTube: You can watch FREE TV Shows and Movies. (Soon, not sure if it’s online yet.)

NetFlix and Blockbuster: Offers FREE MOVIE and TV SHOWS watching (From DVDs)

TV Stations: Offer FREE streaming services on their website. (FOX, NBC, ABC, CW Etc…)

They have partners and it’s all “LEGAL”.

When we watch it; We’re using aprox the same amount of bandwidth if we were to download it from BitTorrent.

Only difference is they don’t make money from US getting it from somewhere else.

The fact is, We’re doing stuff illegal when they publicly allow it on their sites and/or partners?

What are we doing so wrong?

Radar questioned the boss of the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft lobby group, Adrianne Pecotic.

Radar: Video pirates funding terrorism? That’s a big call.

Pecotic: Links between IP [intellectual property] crime and terrorism have been documented by Interpol.

Radar: But how do you know pirates actually fund terrorists?

Pecotic: You have to look at the Interpol report. Piracy attracts people involved in terrorism and organised crime.

Radar: Which terrorists does it fund?

Pecotic: We know of links with Hezbollah and the IRA and other similar terrorist groups.

Radar: Thank you. – Robert Gibson

Pitchy but keen

AUSTRALIA’S biggest film and television companies have ignited a long-simmering war with the internet sector, lodging a lawsuit against Perth-based broadband provider iiNet seeking damages that could run into millions of dollars.

The group, which includes Warner Bros, Sony Pictures, Disney ….. Did you know these companies are Australian??? Come off it, Rupe!!!

The article then fesses up as follows ….

Twentieth Century Fox, owned by News Corporation, which also owns The Australian, is also party to the action. AHA!!!!! The plot thickens!!!

So lets review this issue so far. Telstra, the biggest ISP in Australia, also wholesales the new ADSL2+ (20 Mb per second) service to smaller ISPs. So Telstra should be the Prime Target for the film industry law suit.

iinet (http://www.iinet.net.au/) has built a competitive high-speed network offering bundled telephone services for a cheap price, a better deal for consumers, which threatens to cut into Telstra’s monopoly profits. Sol Trujillo, like the US Auto chiefs, has his private jet and is trying to get money from the Aus Government for Broadband expansion.

News Limited, owner of FOX (including that crappy FOXNEWS channel you yanks have to put up with) is also a partner with Telstra in PayTV in Australia, so also has a “triple vested interest” in attacking iinet, the good guys in this saga of greed and corruption from the big end of town.

The big question for Aussies is “does Prime Minister Kevin Rudd have the balls to take on these monopolists and get the ACCC involved??

I hope so. We need to spread these words in the cause of truth and justice!

“It will test the effect of the safe harbour provisions that were introduced with the US free trade agreement, which provides immunity for ISPs in certain circumstances such as transmission, hosting, caching and referencing activities.”

Coroneos said the IIA board will shortly convene to develop a response on the legal action against iiNet.

But while the movie industry has now stepped up its aggression, the music industry has yet to take legal action against any internet providers over the issue.

and particularly para 27.Australia is a relatively small and isolated market, which is attractive because it has a high income per capita. It is also a net importer of copyright material.[43] Parallel importers benefit consumers as they increase the availability of genuine articles at a cheaper price. A free competitive market equates the cost of producing goods with the price an individual consumer is prepared to pay. This maximises the society’s use of resources. As intellectual property rights restrict this they cause market failure, the cost of which consumers bear.”

Aussies currently pay more for DVDs than US consumers because the Australian government often bends over to US lobbyists. But it is coming to an end. iinet should subpeona all correspondence between telstra and Fox and use it in a case to the ACCC (www.accc.gov.au), our anti-trust equivalent. Torrenters, spread these messages to millions by adding them to torrent download pages. We have the combined might to beat these turkeys!

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the reason why such a large seasoned group of copyright holders is attacking in Australia is because they have had it on good confidence from the Australian administration that political wind is in their favour

ie. they will win

it is for the Australian people to resolve this by removing the corrupt politicians … you know who it is

http://www.h33t.com from the poisoned coast to the land of opportunity

Remember to seed – Umbraco

Other countries I’d believe that, but it doesn’t really hold in Australia because they already have us living with download limits, on/off peak times and often connections that drop out several times a day.

And they can just name their price for whatever connection they are prepared to give.

Plus noone really has a reason to restrict services because
a. the speed is bloody slow to begin with
b. ISPs don’t usually have a competing service.

Jess
http://www.anonymity.cz.tc

Keen to get involved in that

the US is still shitty

wouldnt live anywhere else

There is no way of telling legal traffic from illegal on BitTorrent without watching specific swarms. Going by tracker means nothing – legal things like the Pure Pwnage webisodes are distributed on ThePirateBay, as was Slacker Uprising, Steal This Film, a Nine Inch Nails album and any number of other popular Creative Commons projects. But that doesn’t matter to the movie industry, they want to filter copyrighted work and to them that means blocking all P2P. And with a national censorship filter they have the opportunity to kill off access to every major tracker and indexing site they can name.

But the case they’ve lodged is absurd. They may as well sue themselves for releasing DVDs and Blu-Rays that do not effectively prevent copying. iiNet has no right, responsibility or ability to detect, let alone prevent, illegal use of P2P. In their eyes traffic is just blocks of data in whatever protocol, often encrypted or obfuscated so they can’t even tell which protocol it is let alone how it’s being used.

Please TF, write up an article about our net filter. It will have a devastating effect on torrenting in Australia for anyone who doesn’t have a seedbox (and believe me I will get one if it comes to that).

Yeah, why are they not going after Telstra? Could it just be that Telstra has a gazillion lawyers to fight it, so they pick on the little guy instead?

Just maybe?

Where is the obligation on the copyright industry to adapt their 19th century business model to the realities of 21st century economics and technology?

who is more parasitic? the producing entities who pay the content creators SOME MONEY or the droves of internet nerd robin hoods who pay the content creators NO MONEY?

answer that you idiot.

Each time that you buy a RIAA album or a MPAA movie (DVD, cinema) you are supporting terrorism, remember that.

What!? Those bastards! I wonder why iiNet failed to take action.

Oh, wait. I know why. It’s because iiNet isn’t legally responsible for for its customers’ activities.

These studios trying to sue iiNet might as well be trying to sue Nike for failing to take action agaisnt jaywalkers.

Maybe they think they can win because of their combined wealth? In that case, I’ve got some bad news dor them: all the money in the world isn’t enough to prop up this stillborn lawsuit. Have fun taking one more step towards extinction, you worthless, greedy, parasitic old dinosaurs.

Oh… And also, AFACT can go AFUCK itself. Learn the difference bwteen theft and replication, Adrianne Pecotic, then maybe you can rename AFACT to something that actually reflects reality. If you can find any time between your busy schedule of fellating horses, that is.

http://www.aquariumfish.me

It’s still annoying as fuck though.

AFACT? as far as cunts throw?