MovieX Leeches From The BitTorrent Community

Written by Ernesto on December 01, 2007 

The private BitTorrent tracker Moviex has been setup and configured to leech from public BitTorrent users. Through some clever modifications, their tracker allows non-members to seed to the private tracker, while downloading is forbidden.

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Moviex Leeches From The BitTorrent Community

Private BitTorrent trackers are supposed to be private and for registered members only. A non-member that downloads a torrent from a private tracker will usually get a tracker connection failure in their BitTorrent client. They will not be able to download or upload any data from that torrent, rendering the torrent useless to them. This is the basis that most private trackers work upon, but not Moviex.

Lately, several people have noticed a sudden rise in torrent files being uploaded to public indexing sites like Newtorrents, Mininova, and The Pirate Bay. These uploaded torrent files contain two announce URLs, one from The Pirate Bay and a moviex.info URL that always has the same passkey present, presumably the passkey for an anonymous user.

http://www.moviex.info:2710/...3c73mdqxj31q/announce
http://vip.tracker.thepiratebay.org/announce

To see a pirate bay tracker URL present in a torrent file is nothing out of the ordinary. So what’s special about the moviex.info URL being present in public torrents? Well, the message you get when trying to connect to the moviex.info tracker if you are not a member might give you a hint.

“Failure: access denied, leeching forbidden, you’re only allowed to seed”

Normally you would get something like: “Failure: unregistered torrent pass.” However, moviex.info allows non-members to seed files, while they are not allowed to download. This is a huge bonus for MovieX and its members. Currently, newtorrents.info provides 1000’s of downloads per day to torrent users and reportedly 50% of the available torrents on that site have the moviex.info tracker URL present, the actual percentage may even be be higher.

It is not unusual for private trackers to upload files to public sites. Most of the time this is done to advertise the tracker, so their community grows. However, we don’t see torrents like this very often, I’m not sure if they do this on purpose, but they are definitely leeching bandwidth from people who only use the public tracker. It’s a pretty nice system if you want your private tracker to gain external seeds along with faster download speeds for your members, It’s however also a very damaging method for any user who is not a member of MovieX.info as they will continually upload pieces of the torrent to users who will give very little if anything at all back.

To see exactly what this tracker configuration does and how it works watch the video below. The video shows two clear examples, one of a non seeded file and one of a seeded file using these rogue torrents, obviously for legal reasons we have renamed the torrents that I used for this demonstration (HQ download).

There is a way to prevent the leeching. If you download a torrent file from a public tracker check the tracker URL’s and remove the moviex.info announce URL if it is present. This will stop you seeding the file on that tracker and in turn not allow members of moviex.info to leech data from you. You could also try blocking their IP Address (206.53.62.206) in your IP filter if you are not a member of the MovieX community.

MovieX have taken the time to code this feature into their tracker and at the moment as far as we can tell they are the only private site exploiting this type of dirty hack to leech from external BitTorrent users. What moviex.info should do is configure their tracker not to allow external users without a passkey to connect to their tracker in any way, instead it would seem they have deliberately setup to leech as much data from the public BitTorrent community as possible and boost their own private community speeds. MovieX deny this is the case and claim these torrents to be no more than simple advertising for the site in an attempt to attract new members?

Update: MovieX is now blocked by PeerGuardian, a simple solution is to download and install the application.

Thanks Stuart!

Previously: What.cd To Launch New BitTorrent Tracker Script

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355 Responses

1 Dec 01, 2007 at 02:36 by snailmonkey

Easy to solve. Become a member of moviex.

2 Dec 01, 2007 at 02:52 by etqwplaya

Moviex sucks. I noticed this long time ago but didnt know who to tell about this.

Anyway, if you want to get/give/trade invites for some better trackers, check this site:
http://tracker-invites.org/index.php?referredby=1767

3 Dec 01, 2007 at 02:59 by Dansker

yeah, be a member of moviex and seed you bitchy ass. All I see is greedy seeders on the Pirate GAY tracker.

4 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:01 by h33t

multitracker torrents sux for many reasons and this is the least

say a torrent has 10 good safe ipfiltered trackers and 1 bad anti-p2p tracker … the multitracker torrent has pissed in eveyone’s soup

solution is ban multitracker torrents, who needs them?

5 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:04 by hiro81

A novel idea. And yet another reason not to use public trackers..

6 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:05 by Anonymos

Please add MovieX.org to the PG2 block list if MovieX.org is not going to play fair.

7 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:07 by Anonymous

[quote comment="228181"]Easy to solve. Become a member of moviex.[/quote]

You’re a sheep.

8 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:23 by Cain

Thats lame, I’ll check all my torrents immidiately

9 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:24 by snailmonkey

Baaaah

10 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:31 by Deimon

This goes against the princip of filesharing and P2P… Sure, it’s a nice function but hey, they steal bandwidth from you while you get nothing back.

11 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:37 by Method

I’m annoyed at this post. All you need to do is become a member. Woo?

12 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:57 by well now...

[quote] multitracker torrents sux for many reasons and this is the least

say a torrent has 10 good safe ipfiltered trackers and 1 bad anti-p2p tracker … the multitracker torrent has pissed in eveyone’s soup

solution is ban multitracker torrents, who needs them?
[/quote]

That was very stupid of you to say…

Multi-tracker torrents are EXTREMELY useful. What happens if you release a torrent and only use one tracker, and that tracker goes down like so many do? Did you ever think of that before spouting off your arrogant little mouth about things you don’t understand?

13 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:58 by Endymion

These guys steal their files from private trackers in the first place. Then they upload the torrents to public trackers to steal YOUR bandwith.

And guess what ? THEY MAKE MONEY FROM IT TOO

14 Dec 01, 2007 at 03:59 by 1134

Yep, BUSTED! I always check for dual announce url’s. I know of a few more who do this too but Im gonna be snobby , much like the rest of YOU and keep it to myself.

15 Dec 01, 2007 at 04:12 by PBT

Banned!

16 Dec 01, 2007 at 04:31 by brian

Pretty damn sickening if you ask me.

I personally think that single tracker torrents are the way to go for obvious reasons. Only problem though, is if the tracker gets shutdown, then the content is spread amongst some people that can’t seed because the tracker is gone.

But, this is easily overcome by uploading the torrent somewhere else :)

17 Dec 01, 2007 at 04:32 by Tom

Hah, if this is true that’s really smart of them. Sure, it’s a low down dirty trick, but you gotta admit it’s smart.

I think utorrent (which probably won’t do this now because of their affiliations) should add a multitracker “ok?” list, so if you download a torrent it would give you a list of the multitrackers and you could uncheck ones and list certain trackers as ‘ok’, so that if you see http://www.tracker-invites.org/announce is in there (how the hell is that not the best mpaa scam yet since their agents traded demonoid accounts on slyck?) you can remove it.

18 Dec 01, 2007 at 04:49 by system

You could ban the IP of the tracker or remove the address from the torrent files, but much better to simply use a local proxy script to add “&left=0″ to any announce string heading to moviex.

It would destroy their leech prevention, mess up their stat tracking completely when a few thousand people are leeching from one account and teach them a lesson about mixing swarms.

Maybe TPB could even do an announce to moviex every 30 minutes as a fake seeder and put all the returned peers into their own tracker.

19 Dec 01, 2007 at 05:00 by me

this really sucks and has been going on a long time and not just moviex

you can remove trackers in utorrent just right click the torrent click properties then erase or add what trackers you want

20 Dec 01, 2007 at 05:13 by 3rnesto

[quote]I personally think that single tracker torrents are the way to go for obvious reasons. Only problem though, is if the tracker gets shutdown, then the content is spread amongst some people that can’t seed because the tracker is gone.

[/quote]

Obvious reasons?

Multi-tracker torrents are far superior.

21 Dec 01, 2007 at 05:14 by John Doe

LOL just lol we all know this is just plain ingenious sadly its working against most i applaud them for the idea but as it does rip off the unsuspecting user do pleas piss off moviex :)

22 Dec 01, 2007 at 05:38 by Anonymous

anything that keeps me away from the mpaa /riaa iam for. you get a thumbs up from me movieX

23 Dec 01, 2007 at 05:41 by Zera

sounds pretty low of em. no honor among thieves i guess, right? lol.

24 Dec 01, 2007 at 05:46 by UncertainIntent

I myself have been monitoring this entire issue from both perspectives. The fact of the matter is that every site needs a method of advertisement, MovieX is not the first to ‘plant’ torrents at public sites…the only difference here is that instead of forcing registration to access a torrent we allow the average public tracker user to download. These torrents are 100% uploaded and maintained by an account held by a MovieX entity…how do you think anyone completes the file in the first place? There is seeding constantly going on to ensure the health of the public torrents…the least that could be done is show a bit of appreciation that the site is sharing it’s great content publicly and making itself known. Furthermore, the torrent that is placed externally is one that is inert inside…there are official versions of each publicly placed torrent inside…each new user tosses away the old and the new is loaded…when this happens it stops anyone from outside from transferring to that peer. Any seeding that occurs between those with the ‘planted’ torrents is just that…seeding between the people who have the planted torrent…and nothing more. There are no seeds from external sources inside, all are accounted for in statistics, having external seeders would compromise security - and that is something wished to be preserved at such a great community.

The most these accusations will do - as bball has already followed through with - is increase the userbase at MovieX, and nothing more…

25 Dec 01, 2007 at 05:51 by dude that likes to smoke sweet tarts and eat bonghits

moviex must have slow download speeds to leech from a public tracker.prettay, prettay slow.

26 Dec 01, 2007 at 06:03 by Rycon

Seems we will have to treat moviex like another germ, what there doing is wrong, if you give, you take, if you take, you give.

50/50, thats how it is, thats how it will always be. Fuck you if you do otherwise.

27 Dec 01, 2007 at 06:33 by Hedonist

I have been a member of MovieX for some time now. This is the first time I am hearing of this. Its disgusting. I mean, you dont allow people to leech from you, but to leech from them is all dandy. It should be both ways or no way. I stopped using this site quite a while back. For some reason your download slows down near the end despite there already being a karge number of seeders for a file.

28 Dec 01, 2007 at 06:34 by Raditz

Yeah, I noticed this one a while back

“If you download a torrent file from a public tracker check the tracker URL’s and remove the moviex.info announce URL ”

Yup

29 Dec 01, 2007 at 06:35 by Anonymous

banzored

30 Dec 01, 2007 at 06:39 by Anonymous

lol i thought every one already knew that i mean its kind of obvious

31 Dec 01, 2007 at 06:55 by PC

after you register your new official private torrent from the site only dls and uls from moviex members…the outsiders can only download from the outsiders and the original seedbox

see for yourself …obviously you need hands on experience and direct contact with the site and its operation to know how it functions, not some third party biased opinion

32 Dec 01, 2007 at 09:17 by UncertainIntent

Check the Slyck.com post of this article…all is explained…by an Admin…you guys asked for it, now you got it.

33 Dec 01, 2007 at 09:26 by anonymous

Looks like the PG2 has updated their blocklist to include moviex ::: Yippeee!!!

Clearly this is the way moviex looks at it… More seeders = bad ratio for moviex leechers = more vip for gigs = more money…

My suggestion would be everyone download PG2 and start banning them

34 Dec 01, 2007 at 09:50 by Rama

Before making such claims i suggest you read my post

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=40006&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=25#p444717

authors of this false claims owe us an apology

35 Dec 01, 2007 at 09:56 by d_bo

clearly you’re kinda retarded. oh look at our horrible leeching tracker ratio we have. oh noez we download soooooo much data and never seed back - we are a leech on the BT community oh pls pls help

Data Transferred: We have tracked 7783.44 TB in uploads & 754.63 TB in downloads totalling 8538.07 TB
Total: We are tracking a total of in 21716 torrents totaling 838279 files
Share ratio: The current seeder to peer ratio is 27.95

36 Dec 01, 2007 at 10:42 by Tom

One some private trackers its all about the money. You rarely get the chance to seed, but you can buy download ratio, this is called a “donation”. Mention this on their forum, they tell you to shut up or get banned. Nice community. Think for yourself.

37 Dec 01, 2007 at 10:52 by NewportNews

Private trackers are evil! An exclusive enclave of people doing what everyone should have access to. I remove any non-functioning tracker from a torrent file just for the sake of doing so; but now that it’s clear why all these torrents have movieX latched onto them.. well. Let’s just say I was doing the right thing to begin with.

38 Dec 01, 2007 at 10:59 by snubbed

No wonder MovieX grew in a short period of time. Its been less than one year since it has started.

39 Dec 01, 2007 at 11:20 by thedirtee

MovieX seems to be timing out now.

At least for me…

40 Dec 01, 2007 at 11:41 by Martin | NewTorrents.info admin

yeah that’s a load of crap. i know the guy who is responsible for all of that and he seeds hundreds of public torrents every day on 100 Mbit connection - something noone else would probably do on such a long term period of time. you should be thankful for all the files he uploads just minites within the pre and not bitch about it…

41 Dec 01, 2007 at 11:42 by d_bo

our site isnt that “exclusive” considering we’ve had our registrations open now for months. no need to trade invites or beg for them to get in. all you do is show up and join lol.

the person who began this crap over at p2pvine - just doesnt understand how our system is setup. and makes assumptions based on default type tracker error return messages. ya tard

42 Dec 01, 2007 at 11:50 by Michael M.

I only use public trackers and I’ve seen this message from moviex trackers for some time now. Frankly, although I guess I can understand why some would be upset, it doesn’t bother me at all. I really don’t care if moviex members are leeching the file from me even though I can’t leech from them. I don’t care who leeches from me; I only care about completing the torrents I want and sharing them with the community, wherever those people in the community choose to be. I share all torrents until they have at least a 2-to-1 up/down ratio. It’s the least I can do since I never create torrents for people, only download and share torrents others have created. The biggest problem I have with bittorrent is the whole shadowy, pseudo-hackerish, greedy, ‘l33t’ crap with private networks and the like. Eventually, all that will probably be the downfall of bittorent. It would all “just work” if people stopped worrying and shared. But for whatever reasons — greed, ego, vanity, childishness, etc. — people have to make things so much more complicated than they need to be.

43 Dec 01, 2007 at 12:11 by Nick

Well, I hate to come in here and stand on peoples feet, but assuming that the .torrent file which movieX members download contains the TPB tracker too, it’s still a perfectly normal exchange.

When all modern torrent clients start a download, they’ll get peers from all of the available trackers. This means that movieX members will see all of the non-members through the TPB tracker.

Once a torrent client has identified a peer, there is _NOTHING_ in the bittorrent protocol (and specificially in the tracker specification) which allows a tracker to stop a movieX member from uploading to a non-movieX member.

The _ONLY_ control which the tracker has is the ability to hide peers from each other, but as there is a second tracker anyway, this is irrelevant.

Also, once you add in DHT, which most of the private tracker members probably have enabled anyway, you can bypass the restriction anyway.

Yawn..

44 Dec 01, 2007 at 12:21 by private sites suck

its just another way the private sites rape the bittorrent community for their own needs.

they are not sharers they are leechers.
could this be because their members dont seed shit so they have to rape the bittorrent community to keep their crappy site going!

private sites are the pits.

they say they are part of the community but this just proves that they only want the community for their own needs.

45 Dec 01, 2007 at 12:28 by Anonymous

[quote comment="228181"]Easy to solve. Become a member of moviex.[/quote]

Even easier to solve: delete the moviex-url from the announce-list.

46 Dec 01, 2007 at 12:54 by Pistol

moviex are wankers

47 Dec 01, 2007 at 13:10 by Phishybongwaters

wow,I’ve been talking about this for months, seriously, months.

Beating my chest, whining to no avail.

Finally someone else has seen the light.

MovieX is stealing seeds from public sites, and spamming their site from within torrents.

Simple as that.

You connect to one of those torrents, DHT is disabled of course, and this is how it works.

You download pathetically slow from tpb always offline tracker, and seed back to private moviex members who DON’T SHARE A DAMN KILOBYTE WITH YOU.

All your peer spots in your client get filled with leeches from movieX that DON’T seed back to the public torrent.

Anyone thinking this is good, just doesn’t understand how this all works.

48 Dec 01, 2007 at 13:22 by FUK MOVIEX

It is simple, REMOVE THE MovieX tracker from ALL your downloads containing it. You will connect to only real-time sharers. I’ve been doing it since MovieX starting spreading its filthy tracker around.

This uploader of these trackers is anything but a good person. HE is NOT a bot. HE is only interested in raising donations for his MovieX site.

This type of slime should be banned from torrents sites everywhere

And RSLOG also benefits from this creep, they are just as slimy…

NICE ONE Torrentfreak, you should stay on this one. ITS BULLSHITE.

49 Dec 01, 2007 at 13:54 by d_bo

lol to the post above me, you was on release log pandering the same copied and pasted text spamming your moviex hate crap - its easy to tell you’re a moron huh

50 Dec 01, 2007 at 14:02 by David

How does one remove a tracker from a torrent? What program do you use?

51 Dec 01, 2007 at 14:10 by OkiDoki

Right-click on the torrent file in your BT client. Select properties, you should then be viewing the trackers, remove(delete) the movieX tracker.
Thats all.
It may be different for each BT client.

Search google to find easy methods for each client.

52 Dec 01, 2007 at 15:18 by Kos

I always remove the moviex tracker from the torrent.

53 Dec 01, 2007 at 15:22 by d_bo

yup yup, “i always remove moviex tracker” blah blah blah - and then of course ignore the fact that its one of our site founders who is graciously posting the content on public trackers for others to get in the first place.

54 Dec 01, 2007 at 15:24 by evan

To the above confused guys (Ernesto included):

1. The new releases from the SCENE groups appear on moviex BEFORE they are posted on TPB and not the other way around.

2. If the TPB users are forbidden from leeching from moviex users how come they are able of downloading at all? Remember, at the beginning only moviex users have the file, loder is uploading on TPB so others can have it (and promotes moviex in the process).

3. If you will see the seed/leech ratio on moviex even for (very) old releases you will remove the TPB tracker and keep the moviex one to download faster. Creating an account to moviex is as easy (and free) as creating an account on TPB, lol!

55 Dec 01, 2007 at 15:29 by Piss on X

[quote comment="228512"]It is simple, REMOVE THE MovieX tracker from ALL your downloads containing it. You will connect to only real-time sharers. I’ve been doing it since MovieX starting spreading its filthy tracker around.

This uploader of these trackers is anything but a good person. HE is NOT a bot. HE is only interested in raising donations for his MovieX site.

This type of slime should be banned from torrents sites everywhere

And RSLOG also benefits from this creep, they are just as slimy…

NICE ONE Torrentfreak, you should stay on this one. ITS BULLSHITE.[/quote]

MovieX should be kicked for both its ego and this leach factor. You assholes @MovieX really think these releases only come and will come from you.??

Must be the same dumb-ass sheep that folow aXXo. -RETARDS.

56 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:07 by gusty66

If i would still used torrents i would have registered to MovieX and download full speed. I know why some hate private trackers: they are that type that are limiting the upload to 2 KB/s and run away as soon as the download finishes. On private trackers you are obliged to a upload ratio and that hurts some hit and runners, right?

57 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:15 by urlazy

Just register. It’s free and you’ll get a faster dl speed. Wow that was an easy way to double your torrent speed in 2 minutes.

58 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:19 by bullshit

[quote comment="228642"]Just register. It’s free and you’ll get a faster dl speed. Wow that was an easy way to double your torrent speed in 2 minutes.[/quote]

Bullshit. Its no faster and they only want your money. If they dont get it, you will eventually be BANNED.

Remove the tracker for faster speeds. End of story.

59 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:24 by Anon

[quote comment="228646"]
Bullshit. Its no faster and they only want your money. If they dont get it, you will eventually be BANNED.

Remove the tracker for faster speeds. End of story.[/quote]

Very true. I had an account their once, they don’t update ratios properly for new users, then pester you to ‘donate’ money to them for ‘vip’ status. When I didn’t pay they then banned my account of course, and I was uploading like a maniac.

MovieX just got pwned.

60 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:27 by gusty66

What money, stupid cunt? It’s as free to register at MovieX as it is at TPB, lol! And the speed… wow!

61 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:34 by MovieX FTW

Public trackers are loved mainly by hit and runners, no one bans you if you get 100% and stop seeding. On private trackers you must seed back what you leech, as simple as that!

62 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:36 by yame

This money:

“”Subscription Packages”" (their words not mine)

1 Month Access ( $6.00 )

3 Months Access ( $12.00, Save $6 )

5 Months Access ( $15.00, Save $15 )

7 Months Access ( $25.00, Save $17 )

9 Months Access ( $35.00, Save $19 )

12 Months Access ( $42.00, Save $30 )

24 Months Access ( $60.00, Save $84 )

Its a fuckin torrent site, not iTunes. Subscriptions? wtf?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR 0.8 RATIO LIMIT DUE TO ALL
THE SEEDS COMING FROM THE PIRATEBAY. PAY THEM OR GET BANNED

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

63 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:37 by Anon

Free to register? yes. Free to stay? Absolutely not.

No pay on a new account which ratio is conveniently not updated, gets you banned. Down and out wrong. Scumsuckers of the BT community.

64 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:56 by Movie$$$

This is the first thing I see when getting to the MovieX site:

“Keep MovieX Alive By Getting VIP & Enjoy The Speeds Of Direct Downloads!”

So is their main motive sharing or making $$$?

Hmmm hard one….

65 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:57 by Solitaris

lol Ernesto delete this nonsense asap or all future generations will laugh at you. such a clueless article :)

66 Dec 01, 2007 at 16:59 by Lives@moviex

I have been a member of moviex for a long time now. I have a ratio of 1.6 (not great, but not bad either), and HAVE NEVER PAID A DAMN THING. The only thing that people pay for on moviex is VIP status, and that has nothing to do with bittorrent. VIP gets you access to direct downloads. I use both public, and private trackers, and personally believe that private tackers are much better. There are too many hit and runners on the public trackers. If you public tracker lovers are gonna bitch and whine about leeching (which moviex does not do. They are in fact supported by TPB), start by cleaning up the hit and run leechers on those sites. Whoever wrote this article, and anyone who believes it, needs to check their sources and do some real journalism before throwing out accusations.

67 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:01 by Thanks.

[quote comment="228663"]This money:

“”Subscription Packages”" (their words not mine)

1 Month Access ( $6.00 )

3 Months Access ( $12.00, Save $6 )

5 Months Access ( $15.00, Save $15 )

7 Months Access ( $25.00, Save $17 )

9 Months Access ( $35.00, Save $19 )

12 Months Access ( $42.00, Save $30 )

24 Months Access ( $60.00, Save $84 )

Its a fuckin torrent site, not iTunes. Subscriptions? wtf?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR 0.8 RATIO LIMIT DUE TO ALL
THE SEEDS COMING FROM THE PIRATEBAY. PAY THEM OR GET BANNED

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$[/quote]

Says it all. Thanks.

68 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:04 by Killer Tree

Fileshareing should be about community, transparency, and the freedom of information. Download protocol should come from common courtesy, the willingness to help other as you may have been helped. Sure there are a few hit-and-runners, but overall it works because people want it to work, otherwise all the public trackers would be toast by now. Once you move away from open source, require money, or begin to impose strict limitations on user interaction, you lose the foundation which this community was built on.

69 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:17 by xxx

i’m happy that moviex filters all those hit and run Comcast noobs

70 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:23 by antoine

@ Killer Tree:

Why imposing this simple rule: upload to at least 1:1 every single torrent you download or get banned would ruin the community? Explain to me please. On MovieX the ratio is something like 0.81. Every single torrent I download I keep seeding to 1:1 and I have no problem at all. That subscriptions are for the vip service, I pay nothing and happy with the basic free service.

71 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:25 by Rama

Are all of you stupid or just plain dumb?

ITS A PRIVATE SITE, name one private site that does not have ratio rules?

get real please,

the donation board is dere to keep the site alive. We do not do this for profit, servers are expensive

do you u want to pay 500 monthly for servers out of ur own pocket?

i didnt think so

all you little 15 year old kiddies get your story straight before posting such nonsense

yes its free to register and its free to stay, just give back a little of what you take. STOP HITTING AND RUNNING YOU leeching scums who just want to leech and go away without following any rules

i bet all the people who are commenting her are all banned members cause they are just ignorant and cannot follow simple rules

i am done explaining

72 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:32 by gmail

The point is not what you pay, the point[quote comment="228663"]This money:

“”Subscription Packages”" (their words not mine)

1 Month Access ( $6.00 )

3 Months Access ( $12.00, Save $6 )

5 Months Access ( $15.00, Save $15 )

7 Months Access ( $25.00, Save $17 )

9 Months Access ( $35.00, Save $19 )

12 Months Access ( $42.00, Save $30 )

24 Months Access ( $60.00, Save $84 )

Its a fuckin torrent site, not iTunes. Subscriptions? wtf?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR 0.8 RATIO LIMIT DUE TO ALL
THE SEEDS COMING FROM THE PIRATEBAY. PAY THEM OR GET BANNED

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$[/quote]

I have to agree, this is wrong, you may not be required to pay, but someone is making a huge profit even if only 30,000 of 230,000 subscribed to their ’super fast download special’. The admins are making a mint and using the pirate bay to spam their site. Even worse, they are allowing tpb community to give to them and they get nothing in return.
This is wrong in any light for anyone whom cares for the true sense of p2p.

MaovieX should be globally banned.

73 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:32 by boxter

“STOP HITTING AND RUNNING YOU leeching scums who just want to leech and go away without following any rules”

I fully agree with that !

74 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:38 by Rama

gmail your a retard

we only have 1000 vip members

and this was accumulated over 1 year

do the math

see what i mean? kids kids kids….

and again ill point out, NONE OF OUR ADMINS ARE PAID… wow stupid people in this world

75 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:39 by hmmm

[quote comment="228702"]
the donation board is dere to keep the site alive. We do not do this for profit, servers are expensive

do you u want to pay 500 monthly for servers out of ur own pocket?

i didnt think so[/quote]

LOL! Even if only 20,000 (of 230,000) are paying a $6 dollar a month FEE, thats 12,000 dollars a month!!!!

YES, 12,000 dollars a month!. Your a bunch of GREEDY ASSHOLES.

FUCK MOVIEX.

76 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:41 by PhishyBongwaters

Everyone needs to keep in mind, with all of these torrents you will EVENTUALLY complete your download, in some cases (tpb tracker willing) you won’t even notice any slowdown.

The problem really impacts people with shitty connections/routers or improperly configured clients.

Aswell if you are running vista or XP sp2, you are limited to 10 tcp connections unless you patch you tcpip.sys.

For those people, having the majority of their peer slots taken with LEECHES from movieX, means slower downloads.

Torrent sessions work on the basis, the faster you send, the faster you will be able to download. Your clients also make their connections to peers and maintain them on a similar basis.

If client A can send really fast to client B, client B’s torrentapp will favour that connection for seeding to, rather than a connection that responds slowly.

Now, if client A’s slots are all taken up with leeches from movieX, ClientB (seeder on TPB tracker) will not always want to maintain that connection.

This is exactly what’s happening.

MovieX contributing to the swarms? Yes, contributing LEECHES, only members can actually download from that tracker, they are only uploading back to private members.

They are taking B/W from the public swarm uploads, and not returning any uploads.

They complain about hit and run leechers? I’ve got 7 fucking terrabytes uploaded at torrent leech, so suck that. The only hit and run leeching bastards here would be the movieX members downloading from the public swarms seeds and NOT uploading a single kb back to the public swarm.

Works out great for movieX members, screws over the public swarm pretty bad.

You can send all the movieX fanboys here you want trying to explain away the fact they are the hit and run leechers.

Atleast the standard hit and run public user UPLOADED during his session, instead of downloading and capping his upload to 0k.

If I start using a hacked client at MovieX that lets me download without uploading anything, would I not be banned?

EXACTLY

“yes its free to register and its free to stay, just give back a little of what you take. STOP HITTING AND RUNNING YOU leeching scums who just want to leech and go away without following any rules”

Direct that at the movieX leeches, as THEY are the ones entering the swarm, downloading from public seeds and NOT sending anything back.

77 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:43 by gmail

[quote comment="228712"]
we only have 1000 vip members[/quote]

You are full of shit, so what you stop accepting subscriptions at 1,000 people?

With 230,000 members GUARANTEED you have noobs lining up for the Superfast D/L special.

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

78 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:45 by Rama

let me ask u this..

WHO POSTED THE ORIGINAL TORRENT ON TPB?
A MovieX uploader

how did the swam start? from the uploader

get real

“YES, 12,000 dollars a month!. Your a bunch of GREEDY ASSHOLES.”

where did u get these figures? ur imagination? yet again another kid…

this whole blog is out of jealousy towards moviex

79 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:46 by HDReady

All the sites, private or not must impose a seed ratio of 1 or more. That would be the end of hit and runners and they know it! That’s why they bring the “interest of the community” in discussion. The real interest of the community is to get read of hit and runners, not to give them breading space! MovieX FTW!

80 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:54 by Anonymous

[quote]All the sites, private or not must impose a seed ratio of 1 or more. That would be the end of hit and runners and they know it! That’s why they bring the “interest of the community” in discussion. The real interest of the community is to get read of hit and runners, not to give them breading space! MovieX FTW![/quote]

That’s not technically possible for public trackers.

81 Dec 01, 2007 at 17:54 by anon

Essentially they are using The Pirate Bay to ‘get rich quick’.

This should not be tolerable under any circumstances. No ones jealous of MovieX, far from it, what MovieX is doing to the public community is plain wrong.

82 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:05 by Rama

can you please advise me, WERE does it say U HAVE TO PAY?

ITS A FREE SITE, LET ME REPEAT ITS A FREE SITE

Stop making up lame rumors about us.

We have put up so many torrents on TPB and seeded them to the public, please advise how this is wrong? SEEDING TO THE PUBLIC IS WRONG?

we were merely advertising our website.

Get over it, what do you want us to do? get rid of our rules? sure go to every private torrent site and tell them that

ITS FREE TO REGISTER AND ITS FREE TO USE.

unlike every other private torrent site, we keep registrations open as we want to share, not keep members out

its clear to see you have no read any of the official statements by the MovieX founders.

Get to know the system, do some research, stop making rumors.

83 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:07 by Anonymous

Any torrent site taking subscriptions should be taken down, seriously thats REAL pirating, thats like selling burned CDs on the streets for profit, thats the kind of piracy you get several years in prison from, not “internet piracy” witch is the game we torrent kids are playing.

We “internet” pirates do not pirate for profits, to save money sure but absolutely not for profit making!
Internet pirates are not criminals in that way, as we share and dont resell, thats why we have been able to keep P2P going for all these years, if we would have done it for profit we would all be in jail and P2P would be dead before it even started.

MovieX are doing something very very wrong here.
If they do indeed have subscriptions then they are real pirates and not just internet pirates like the rest of us torrent users and site owners are (or claim to be, or not to be).

Profiting on others is NOT ok, thats REAL damage, and subscription is paying for, any court will see that as paying for site content, witch is stolen.

giving away stolen stuff for free is alot different then charging for stolen stuff, then theres still the issue of the stolen stuff itself but thats another story and copyright law thats faulty (imo ;)).

IF MovieX did NOT mean for this, they should change it to “Monthly donations” instead of subscription, that would solve alot of problems and future trouble, as there would be alot of trouble heading their way if they keep subscription.

donate = give away
subscribe = pay for (the problem that makes it so serious, and it realy is)

84 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:16 by Cedge

MovieX is a scam. It’s so obvious that it’s just a way for the site owner to make tons of money.

They deserve to be turned in to the authorities, for profiteering from piracy, which is basically the ultimate sin from piracy (to not only steal, but to PROFIT from stealing).

85 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:16 by Rama

Who said it was a subscription?

PEOPLE are donating to us, we never asked for any money

you guys are acting like we are selling movies..

if u donate, sure you will get something better a quicker download…. no waits…

stop being hypocrites.. u all download illegal stuff and then give shit to illegal websites?

we are not charging anyone, or forcing anyone to pay, people donate on their own free will like any other private torrent site…..

86 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:19 by Anonomyous

[quote comment="228750"]MovieX is a scam. It’s so obvious that it’s just a way for the site owner to make tons of money.

They deserve to be turned in to the authorities, for profiteering from piracy, which is basically the ultimate sin from piracy (to not only steal, but to PROFIT from stealing).[/quote]

I completely agree.

87 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:28 by UncertainGod

How is this news, I’ve watched torrents do that for a while, the moviex tracker always gets removed from a torrent I might pick up.

88 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:28 by MovieX FTW!

Battlestar.Galactica.Razor.UNRATED.EXTENDED.2007.DVDRip.XviD-WAT

just released!

I wonder who is gonna leech from who: MovieX users from TPB users or the other way around !

89 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:42 by supreme

For the moment only loder has Battlestar UNRATED on TPB so I guess it’s safe to say that TPB users are leeching from MovieX users and not the other way around, lol, Ernesto, lol!

90 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:45 by DownWithMoviex!

Down with Moviex!! Down with TPB!! These people who run these sites make anywhere from 50 bux a day to hundreds a day just from running tiny ads. This is on top of their membership fees. Join a REAL private site, that’s free and doesn’t rip off the noobs and dummies on the public trackers, it’s not their fault they don’t know any better!!

91 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:46 by gmail

[quote comment="228719"][quote comment="228712"]
we only have 1000 vip members[/quote]

You are full of shit, so what you stop accepting subscriptions at 1,000 people?

With 230,000 members GUARANTEED you have noobs lining up for the Superfast D/L special.

GO FUCK YOURSELF.[/quote]

Still waiting for answer, spamming assholes.

92 Dec 01, 2007 at 18:56 by solitaris

down with ernesto

93 Dec 01, 2007 at 19:05 by Rama

Why don’t you come onto the forums and filter out the VIP members

you will see my figures are correct

stop talking trash

fix your attitude

You know absolutely squat about us, and yet you comment on us like you have been a member before

I laugh at your stupidity

94 Dec 01, 2007 at 19:08 by mGiB

I see no issue in this at all you guys are crazy. Thx rama and movieX for even providing this stuff to a public tracker you all need to learn to love scene trickle down not hate it ;)

95 Dec 01, 2007 at 19:13 by yar

[quote]I laugh at your stupidity[/quote]

You’re the one saying that just because one of your uploaders uploads a torrent to TPB that the rest of your members can leech off it…

96 Dec 01, 2007 at 19:14 by Kill All Leachers 4 A Better Worls

To make clear to all of you, assholes:

1. The only way you can get a torrent with the movieX tracker from a public site (like TPB) is if movieX (aka loder) is uploading that torrent to that public site. Is not taking, is giving, you know the difference?

2. If you have no movieX tracker in your torrent that torrent is not uploaded by movieX and you are not gonna be raped by the bad movieX guys, go back to sleep.

3. Ernesto was drunk when has written this article. How can movieX take from a public site something that is giving to that site in the first place!

97 Dec 01, 2007 at 19:14 by paco

[quote comment="228750"]MovieX is a scam. It’s so obvious that it’s just a way for the site owner to make tons of money.

They deserve to be turned in to the authorities, for profiteering from piracy, which is basically the ultimate sin from piracy (to not only steal, but to PROFIT from stealing).[/quote]

Nicely put. Anyway to go about reporting a site like this?

98 Dec 01, 2007 at 19:55 by Anonymous

lol all you people saying movieX is about the money are retarded its easy as hell to get your ratio up on that site. you idiots should be thank full that they’re even providing that stuff to public trackers

99 Dec 01, 2007 at 20:05 by Rigge

[quote comment="228821"]you idiots should be thank full that they’re even providing that stuff to public trackers[/quote]

You do realize the reason “loder” attempts to upload torrents as early as possible is to -capitalize- on the seeds at TPB as long as possible? That is whole idea of the scam! If he isn’t the fastest uploader the scam doesn’t work, people will go to other NON-SCAM torrents instead.

There’s nothing altruistic about fighting to maintain your scam. Seriously.

100 Dec 01, 2007 at 20:20 by axxo sucks cock

[quote comment="228193"]Moviex sucks. I noticed this long time ago but didnt know who to tell about this.

Anyway, if you want to get/give/trade invites for some better trackers, check this site:
http://tracker-invites.org/index.php?referredby=1767/quote

hopefully you know that trading invites is fobidden on most sites just like trading/selling yer accounts.

all you do is drawing unwanted attention from strangers that dont belong there that are banned before because of cheating or other crap that or trading accounts etc. or worse, like the coppers, so that there will be yet another raid and yet another few persons behind bars.

all because yer nothing more than a retarded egocentrical dumbfuck that truly deserves the predicate P2P-LAMER!
please fuck off bigtime and go grow up and make some 1337 friends to get invites to better sites ofso instead of being a sad wanker retard like knoeki, axxo or any other craphole that cant even change his own pants and needs to steal his shit from aniwhere, even invites

101 Dec 01, 2007 at 20:21 by Cain

It seems like all the retards on MovieX were told to go here and spam this article on torrentfreak..

102 Dec 01, 2007 at 20:25 by CatSpringer

What? No honour among thieves?

103 Dec 01, 2007 at 20:48 by Bluffer Fish

I’m a big fan of Internet Rights.

First of all, there is the fact that the MPAA and RIAA are trying to keep their dying oligopoly on top by refusing to adopt new technology, which is the entire foundation of capitalism. Improvisation leads to Profits, and they are quite frankly completely stifling any technology, for fear of losing gigantic profit margins. P2P is the only way until we have a nice compromise between consumers and firms.

However, I will under no circumstances back a site like MovieX. You see, MovieX is quite like the Asian street sellers who sell bootlegged movies, for profit. Of course they tell you, they have to pay the cost of the video tape and the camera and the risk, but all in all, that does not justify the 12 dollars you just spent. Just like donating 6 dollars monthly is ridiculous. I am not a person to make ludicrous accusations, but I have heard AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN how you get banned from MovieX if you do not donate, DESPITE you keeping the share ration up.

Now I will move on to how MovieX is the bane of the BT community. Implying that a keystone of BT websites like PB would be mush without MoviesX is delusional. TBP was fine before MovieX, and will be fine when we all block all of their trackers, ON ALL TORRENTS THEY LEECH.

Saying that a public tracker is filled with hit and runners is laughable. If that were the case, you wouldn’t have sites dedicated to BT where users come to congregate and discuss a much loved technology. A technology that is loved by most for its ease of use and lack of greedy mongrels.

Rama you will try to deflect all attacks on the financial situation of your site, but it is impossible to hide that out of 230,000 members, hundreds, if not thousands, donate to a technology you did not create, donate for you to abuse other sites for them, donate to line your fat-cat pockets.

You can throw around the words stupid and dumb, but who here spells like a 11 year old Taiwanese girl? Yeah, you.

Seeing as I’m an economics major, I’m intrigued, how similar would your profit pie be compared to the profit pie of nations that impose tariffs on imported items? I’m guessing excruciatingly alike.

In conclusion I’ve never signed up for MoviesX, because I have enough friends, about 4 who have told me how they got banned even with seed ratios over 1:1. Go fuck yourself, you’re getting in the way of our fight for Internet Rights.

104 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:02 by anon

Very, very well said Bluffer Fish.

+1

105 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:22 by p2p

Ernesto,

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the bittorrent protocol works. Your client either receives a peer list or it does not. If it does not receive a peer list, then you will not upload anything to their members, either. It’s impossible. If you do receive a peer list, you will upload AND download from their members. The tracker cannot control whether peers upload or download to each other.

The most they could possibly do is only give you IPs of peers who are not currently seeds, but still downloading; That may be what the slyck.com response is referring to, but he doesn’t really make that clear. In any event, you will be downloading pieces from those peers as they receive them, and they will eventually become seeds themselves.

I would describe that as a badly worded error message, but there is no way that it can be described as bandwidth theft.

I’ve never heard of MoviesX, but I think you owe them an apology, because judging by these comments, you’ve got your readers believing that MovieX is “cheating” somehow, when the fact is you are just uninformed.

–p2p
–cheggit admin

106 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:29 by anonymous

[quote]127.0.0.1 http://www.moviex.info/quoteAdded to the HOSTS file and you won’t have to delete the tracker URL anymore. Your client won’t even try to contact them.

107 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:31 by Anonymouse

Well, I will have to say that even I don’t like what moviex is doing. And to the other’s who are commenting that moviex are giving, not taking, just because they posted the torrents on the pirate bay, I will have to say that you all are damn phools. Your brains can’t think properly can they? Or maybe you didn’t notice that sometimes moviex just reposts already available torrents with their own trackers.

And by the way, if moviex wouldn’t have posted those torrents then someone else would have, just to get the popularity. LOL!

So yes, moviex is leeching from the public(especially the newbies who aren’t aware of the moviex tracker being present) and not giving anything in return. If they don’t allow unregistered users to leech, then they shouldn’t allow them to seed either.

108 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:33 by Fry

WTF you have to keep a .8 Ratio or get banned, every private torrent site I belong to the minimum ratio is .4 so why does moviex double the minimum ratio? oh wait so more people will donate, Oh I see what you did there…

109 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:35 by Anonymouse

LOL @p2p

How can you “download” from the peers when you download is already complete? In case you haven’t noticed, the tracker only starts working once your download is complete. You should have watched that video before commenting. LOL!

110 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:38 by Raist420

been seeing this last couple of months and have been maually removing since the leeching is forbidden message first popped up

111 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:39 by ???

cheggit admin,

Your an idiot. Thats exactly what these trackers do and have for months. I love self-proclaimed know-it-alls.

You jack-ass.

Maybe try something before waving our idiot flag.

This a programmed trackers, to allow ONLY those with MovieX membership to leach from EVERYONE in the swarm.

Learn something you toolbag moron, FFS.

112 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:50 by p2p

If the tracker is truly only giving out a peer list to seeds, then I withdraw what I wrote. That is not fair behavior.

113 Dec 01, 2007 at 21:55 by SicTim

What? No honour among thieves?

Too many people here are reinforcing the idea that P2P users are all just using the system(s) for piracy.

Torrents, in particular, have great potential for the future of independent artists and software developers.

The internet in general, and P2P in particular, are a (relatively) cheap avenue of publicity and distribution — previously things that an entity other than the artist(s) controlled.

Torrents rock in that the users are mainly supplying the bandwidth. If, and this seems likely, my next project uses torrents for distribution, I don’t have to pay for the server and bandwidth costs of direct downloads.

IMO, piracy is the infancy of P2P. It’s got plenty of rational, legitimate uses, and perpetuating the myth that we only want to “steal” media doesn’t serve to help the long-term outlook of this advance in technology.

Stealing music or film is subversive. Creating media completely independent of the “system” is far more so.

114 Dec 01, 2007 at 22:04 by Atomic

I’d like to say ummm no. MovieX being a private tracker obviously tracks it’s members share ratios. It does that by using the passkey method, which a lot of private trackers do/use. Each member is assigned their own unique passkey when they sign up to the tracker so that the tracker can identify each of it’s members when they seed/leech. When a member of movieX downloads a torrent from the movieX site the announce url will contain their unique passkey. So anything seeded/leeched through that exact torrent file will be considered as coming from that one user.

MovieX also has a system to stop it’s members from just leeching everything. If their share ratio gets to low, the tracker tries to dissallow the client from downloading anymore and only allows it to seed, although this is not 100% perfect, eventually the bittorrent client will still find other users that have something it can grab. When the share ratio of that member eventually goes back up to an acceptable rate the tracker allows that member to download again

The problem that is being complained about is actually that a member of moviex is uploading a torrent to MovieX, then grabbing that torrent from moviex (with their unique member passkey in the announce url), then adding tpb tracker and distributing the torrent elsewhere.

So when the bittorrent community use this torrent with the 2 trackers, the users that start off using the moviex tracker WILL be able to leech until the share ratio of whatever user the announce url belongs too, drops so low that the tracker then bans it from leeching. Many people will just let it keep seeding until it starts downloading again, and the people that keep seeding after the torrent is complete is exactly what the original moviex member wants, as this ends up boosting his/her share ratio on moviex

115 Dec 01, 2007 at 22:08 by Atomic

oh and i’m a member of moviex so don’t go telling me i’m wrong. I in fact personally hate the people that do that to up their share ratio/download/upload stats on moviex. Even though I’m a member of moviex, if I find torrents like that I remove the announce url so that they can’t benefit off my seeding/leeching

116 Dec 01, 2007 at 22:09 by LapLandz

Im not prepared to offer my personal opinions on why I will be staying at MovieX other then the evidence given in this blog and from what pcbraniac has stated, its clear to me that TPB who are arguably the most popular public tracker known, actually know about this and I think a statement from them would be appreciated.

It amazes me how something can be blown-out of all proportions from a single article that was written without actually finding all the evidence, the author of the article didn’t even ask MovieX for a statement,
Also if MovieX was only interested in getting faster speeds for its own members, why have they not targeted other not-well-known public trackers, if this was a scheme to target faster bandwidth then surely going to the smaller trackers would be more beneficial then going to TPB if this was a under-cut method.

117 Dec 01, 2007 at 22:12 by Atomic

oh and incase you people didn’t know, moviex is open registration. you can go their right now and register. You can then get the original torrent of whatever it is and start seeding/leeching with your own reliable passkey

118 Dec 01, 2007 at 22:37 by ???

[quote comment="228904"]ALL OF MY COMMENTS[/quote]

Wow dude, you so lost, its quite funny. Might want to read around a bit mate, including the article at the top of page. LOL

119 Dec 01, 2007 at 22:50 by officer dick

EVERYBODY FREEZE! PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!

120 Dec 01, 2007 at 22:54 by lol

stfu, join the site, and quit bitching about a site that has better download speeds then tpb, I’ve never read a more whiny bitchy moan-y article than this one.

register at the the site, its fucking open. Ernesto needs to quit whining, and realize that community that he preaches about ALREADY STEALS from an even better community known as the scene, you retard.

Kiss my ass, Erenesto, I’ve been a moviex user for a long time. And it pisses me off to see a bitchy article putting down a system that actually works.

Get tpb dicks out of your ass and see tpb system is old broken and slow as hell.

Ernesto: My Torrents are slow!! BAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!

121 Dec 01, 2007 at 23:59 by what?

MovieX sucks more dick then its #1 fanboi in the comment above.

You do realize you sound of idiot I suppose? If not, let me tell you,

You suck and your sites sucks. Money hungry cocksucking whore of a fanboi site.

A REMINDER: to stay a gay movieX fanboi, eventually you must pay!

“”Subscription Packages”" SOLD PER MOVIEX

1 Month Access ( $6.00 )

3 Months Access ( $12.00, Save $6 )

5 Months Access ( $15.00, Save $15 )

7 Months Access ( $25.00, Save $17 )

9 Months Access ( $35.00, Save $19 )

12 Months Access ( $42.00, Save $30 )

24 Months Access ( $60.00, Save $84 )

good day.

122 Dec 02, 2007 at 00:02 by Hortz

Stupid basters

123 Dec 02, 2007 at 00:40 by magnus

MovieX is leech free and does not cost me a penny. Not to mention that the scene releases comes there fast and the download speed is incredible. Who say different is just because they have been banned from MovieX (and other sites probably) for not seeding back what they have leeched, as simple as that!

124 Dec 02, 2007 at 00:46 by kirk

Public trackers are for noobs who seed like morons for “smart” hit and runners. Go to a private tracker (movie-X or other) and never look back.

125 Dec 02, 2007 at 00:53 by da_game_06

ok i’ve read a lot of pages on Torrent Freak and it is very reliable… @lol clearly this is another pey2leech tracker… ppl like this gotta learn that if they get it for free atleast have the decency to share it for free… alot of ppl say that big sites are pay2leech but they don’t go out and do this subscription package thing… so i’d rather donate to any big tracker that can be thought to be a p2l because of their income caused byy there large DB than actually paying to leech which is the example here… I haven’t even joined yet and don’t plan to… I have been a user at scam sites and left as soon as I’ve found out.. This place though sounds like the biggest scam there is… I say stay away… Thank you Ernesto for keeping the community informed :)…

126 Dec 02, 2007 at 01:29 by fun4free

Ernesto has made some good articles but this one is utter crap :(. If moviex is doing something wrong then TPB is for sure aware of it. The fact that TPB does nothing against moviex/loder proves that moviex does nothing wrong. Simple logic, isn’t it?

127 Dec 02, 2007 at 01:40 by sebastian12

Well, loder is from Sweden and in very good relations with the Pirate Bay guys. I doubt that if loder would stop uploading to TPB the others will fill the gap entirely. So thank you all the uploaders and f%ck you all the winers.

128 Dec 02, 2007 at 01:57 by Nick

[quote comment="228876"]Ernesto,

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the bittorrent protocol works. Your client either receives a peer list or it does not. If it does not receive a peer list, then you will not upload anything to their members, either. It’s impossible. If you do receive a peer list, you will upload AND download from their members. The tracker cannot control whether peers upload or download to each other.

The most they could possibly do is only give you IPs of peers who are not currently seeds, but still downloading; That may be what the slyck.com response is referring to, but he doesn’t really make that clear. In any event, you will be downloading pieces from those peers as they receive them, and they will eventually become seeds themselves.

I would describe that as a badly worded error message, but there is no way that it can be described as bandwidth theft.

I’ve never heard of MoviesX, but I think you owe them an apology, because judging by these comments, you’ve got your readers believing that MovieX is “cheating” somehow, when the fact is you are just uninformed.

–p2p
–cheggit admin[/quote]

You’re partially right. The only way this would work is if the movieX members recieved a .torrent file without the TPB tracker, and the movieX tracker only published seeding peers for non-members. That said my suspicion is the movieX .torrent file contains the TPB tracker anyway, thus nullifying the argument.

But I agree with your first comment. Relying on the error messages from the tracker as an informed source shows a fundemental misunderstanding in the protocol.

129 Dec 02, 2007 at 02:10 by Anonymous

How to block MovieX.org:

1.) Go to your HOSTS file.
Windows XP / Vista = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
Windows XP = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
Windows 2K = C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC
Win 98/ME = C:\WINDOWS

2.) Open up your HOSTS file and add MovieX.org to your HOSTS file.

3.) Save.

130 Dec 02, 2007 at 02:10 by Anonymous

Add “www.moviex.info 127.0.0.1″ instead of MovieX.org to your HOSTS file.

131 Dec 02, 2007 at 02:15 by Mr. Dr. PhD

They should take a bath.

132 Dec 02, 2007 at 03:24 by Matt

What? Content pirates taking something for nothing? SAY IT AIN’T SO!

Now THAT is delicious irony.

133 Dec 02, 2007 at 04:26 by dumbass

You moviex members are idiots. The whole point of this is that your moviex community is taking without giving. So what “loder” uploaded the torrent first. That’s like saying I paid to get into Disneyland, therefore, I get to bring my 100 friends who didn’t pay the fee to also ride the rides. Loder uploaded for the specific reason to generate more seeds for moviex which means faster speeds for the moviex community which means they can JUSTIFY their SUBSCRIPTION service.

134 Dec 02, 2007 at 04:36 by pah

[quote]Ernesto has made some good articles but this one is utter crap :(. If moviex is doing something wrong then TPB is for sure aware of it. The fact that TPB does nothing against moviex/loder proves that moviex does nothing wrong. Simple logic, isn’t it?[/quote]

That’s not logic…

What do you expect TPB to do?

135 Dec 02, 2007 at 04:43 by anon

We’re all pirates, not thieves.

In the whole Pirates trilogy, have you ever seen any of the characters pay for anything? NO.

Same thing for BT, Trackers, and anything related to BT. Its made to be free of charge.

The only thing a BT user pays for is their bandwidth, so it ticks people off when someone is exploiting something they pay for and make a profit from it.

136 Dec 02, 2007 at 05:42 by UncertainIntent

Through your complaints what you all want to see is MovieX become a public tracker…simple as that…this is the only system that allows us to share externally and yet keep it fair for us…

137 Dec 02, 2007 at 09:46 by RiceBall

Wrong, either go public or stay strictly private. The public doesn’t need you to share jack shit. You make it seem as if your the sole source for scene releases and that the entire BT community would die without you. All moviex is doing is raping public upload bandwidth for being one source out of possible thousands.

138 Dec 02, 2007 at 09:53 by yvonne

torrents on moviex are free and fast to download. Did I mention they are free? Maybe I should say it again FREE. I didn’t notice the ‘R’ removed from Free at any place on moviex. So I am sure they are free.
The VIP donations cover the cost of direct downloads that are not torrent files. Note the wording NOT TORRENT FILES. You don’t have to become a VIP or donate for anything to access the torrent files. You donate of your own free will (and noone on moviex has a gun to your head at any time) ONLY if you want Direct Downloads to get whatever you want even faster than the moviex torrent community can give you. People dont have to join the moviex community if they dont want to. It’s a choice you make of your own accord and lots of people made the choice to join and are quite happy being there (I know this by looking at the amount of people logged onto Moviex at any given time).
People are not banned for not paying for direct downloads its a choice given to members who would like faster downloads than torrents. You will get banned from downloading for not seeding back up to .80 after a 4 gig download and the ban only lasts for as long as your ratio is below .80, you could get banned for breaking rules that are their to protect our community but this is a rare occurence.
Oh and Admins don’t get paid to help out. I know this because I am an admin on Moviex.
As for the leeching that people here are complaining about I believe that to be a leecher you have to download and not seed back but if you cant download in the first place there is nothing to give back. Which is your complaint right? So It would appear to me that someone must be seeding in the first place for anyone to get anything and that person is ‘Loder’and in return for his seeding to the torrenting community outside of Moviex and using his own server for all the New Releases he quickly gets to you, what he gets is to advertises his own site. I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Its a win win situation for everyone.
You get new releases fast and he gets some recognition for his work.

139 Dec 02, 2007 at 10:05 by uNoWhO

lol reading this made me laugh at how some people can say alot of shit without knowing anything about what they are talking about

1 ive had a membership with moviex for a long time and my ratio is always between 2 and 3 and i havent ever paid a cent and never had any admins tell me i had to

2 i cant see how ANYBODY that isnt a leecher or had a membership to a private site before could get banned after they had only just signed up the .80 ratio rule doesnt kick in till you have downloaded 4 gig and if your ratio hadnt updated you can always contact a mod and get that fixed up its not the sites fault that you dont care about your ratio

3 the whole tracker thing is bullshit when you download the torrent from moviex it inculdes the TPB tracker aswell so we are all downloading and uploading to everyone cept moviex members have there ratio counted for the moviex tracker and a faster download and tpb users see a message from moviex to get more members to get them a faster download aswell theres no stealing about it

4 moviex is prob the only private site that always have the doors open for new members and dont try to act like they are better than everyone else the only thing they ask is that you keep a good ratio and honestly thats not 2 much 2 ask is it?

140 Dec 02, 2007 at 10:22 by zarathustra

“Loder uploaded for the specific reason to generate more seeds for moviex which means faster speeds for the moviex community which means they can JUSTIFY their SUBSCRIPTION service.”

Persackly…

(Say it ain’t so, loder. No? Thought not…)

Everyone:
Use the HOST file hack, remove the URL from each torrent file individually, or add moviex to your PG banlist.

We _can_ stop this…

141 Dec 02, 2007 at 10:28 by zaragain

As TorrentMama put it so well on Slyck, I’ll repeat her fine words here:

“Why can’t you get it through your head that file sharers only want to upload to people that they can download from? It’s actually the very principal bittorrent was built upon. BT users, generally, are more than happy to share with the swarm they are in. But they don’t want to have to share with the swarm to keep the public torrent going AND have to lend their bandwidth to exclusive moviex members that they don’t get anything from.

And don’t hand me that bullshit again that they are getting something because a generous moviex uploader put the torrent on a public site and seeds it for a while. There is nothing generous about that action.

He’s initally giving something, but to what end? It’s not about sharing, it’s about increasing moviex’s profile and it’s about increasing it’s members downloading speed at the expense of the public tracker users. People don’t like that. this shouldn’t be a hard concept to grasp.”

142 Dec 02, 2007 at 10:50 by RiceBall

yvonne: Did you watch the vid in the article? Once someone on the private tracker finshes their download they are then converted into a seeder for moviex members who until this point in time and with the exception of loder haven’t contributed anything to the swarm. That is what everyone has problem with. I can tell you now that moviex will get will far more bandwidth in return from the public then any amount loder contributed on his leet connection. Which is ironic considering moviex uses ratios to protect itself from deadbeat leechers. Prevent public tracker seeders from ever connecting to exclusive moviex leechers and this public relation beatdown goes away. If this means loder stops uploaidng to PB, I’m perfectly fine with that solution. Either make it a two street or just go away.

To block moviex leechers:

Add 206.53.62.206 to your ipfilter.dat file

Or add 127.0.0.1 http://www.moviex.info to your host file

Now you never have manually delete moviex tracker data. Either one of the above two methods will do it for you. Peerguardian may add moviex to their block lists.

143 Dec 02, 2007 at 13:56 by news

I was told by a source that MovieX was changing IP to counter this block amongst other reasons now.

Ernesto, can you plz follow up with this?

This needs to be stopped. I myself have submitted the site and its numerous ’subscription packages’ to many different authority figures.

MovieX WILL GO DOWN.

144 Dec 02, 2007 at 14:14 by Rama

first of all

they aren’t subscription packages

which retard gave you this idea?

its a donation board… why don’t u go have a look properly

making such dumb comments shows how low your IQ really is

yeah sure while your reporting, go report pirate bay, torrentlecch, infact go report every single torrent site which have donation boards and adverts..

if loder stops uploading to pirate bay, you will see the inpact

145 Dec 02, 2007 at 14:32 by lol

Piratebay is run by retards, used by retards.

Moviex saw an advantage to make torrents faster by taking advantage of retards.

I see no problem with that.

If you use PB. You are an idiot.

If you think PB is revolutionizing the way people pirate, You are an idiot.

If you think that they will change copyright law, You are an Idiot.

Bittorrent is a slow and crappy way to download anyway, but if your going to do it, go private, or semi-private with open registrations.

Moviex has never asked me for money ONCE, and I have NEVER been below 1-1 for ratio, If you are on this board complaining about it being a pay site, and unfairly taking money, You are no better then the cops who busted OiNK up.

Moviex gets scene releases much faster then the piratebay, and in proper format as well, I might add. I detect a hint of jealousy in these posts, Probably because of the fact PB gets nothing but run-offs from other sites. Similar to Limewire or KaZZA.

The Piratebay is nothing more then a dump of poorly seeded, Mismatched, Unorganized, pathetic excuse for a torrent site, Which, actually I will admit, I help make it that way. On the rare occasion PB has something older that I can’t find, Or one of my private sites is down, I will download a torrent, and never seed it back. Fuck PB. I am proud to say I have never seeded a torrent on PB back to LESS than half. You don’t deserve my speed.

Please, instead of running your mouths off, SIGN UP for moviex. IT’S FUCKING FREE. And when you realize: “Holy fuck, I can keep a ratio on this site! Holy fuck, I have an actual download speed. Holy fuck, It’s actually organized!” You too can piss on PB as I do. It’s old, It’s broken, It’s not the fucking future. Let it go and move on to better things for fuck sakes.

You can pay money for VIP direct downloads, but I see no need to, I can download a new scene released movie in half an hour, with no problems, the same file on PB would take me at LEAST 6.

Protip: Nothing makes you seem like more of a retard than using Piratebay and bitching when someone takes advantage of you.

Ernesto, Please, for the sake of your “community” shut the fuck up.

PS. Thank you Piratebay for making my download speeds that much faster. Keep waving your flags.

PPS. anakata, Suck my dick.

146 Dec 02, 2007 at 14:35 by private sites suck

yeah yeah yeah whatever…

thief!!

147 Dec 02, 2007 at 14:38 by private sites suck

moviex = leechers that need public tracker to buff up their speeds.

its nothing to do with money and all to do with you raping public tracker sites for their bandwidth to raise your own cos you are scum sucking wankers

148 Dec 02, 2007 at 14:40 by lol

“private sites suck” obviously likes slow downloads and people capping their upload ratio to 1kbs.

149 Dec 02, 2007 at 14:47 by lol

Ok lets look at the last comment.

“moviex = leechers that need public tracker to buff up their speeds.

its nothing to do with money and all to do with you raping public tracker sites for their bandwidth to raise your own cos you are scum sucking wankers”

Ok valid argument lets dissect it shall we?

“moviex = leechers that need public tracker to buff up their speeds.”

**Answer** NO! Look at any private site Oink (rip :P) underground-gamer kraytracker, etc. It is not hard to maintain speed due to ratio restrictions…..Retard.

“its nothing