MovieX Leeches From The BitTorrent Community
Written by Ernesto on December 01, 2007The private BitTorrent tracker Moviex has been setup and configured to leech from public BitTorrent users. Through some clever modifications, their tracker allows non-members to seed to the private tracker, while downloading is forbidden.
Private BitTorrent trackers are supposed to be private and for registered members only. A non-member that downloads a torrent from a private tracker will usually get a tracker connection failure in their BitTorrent client. They will not be able to download or upload any data from that torrent, rendering the torrent useless to them. This is the basis that most private trackers work upon, but not Moviex.
Lately, several people have noticed a sudden rise in torrent files being uploaded to public indexing sites like Newtorrents, Mininova, and The Pirate Bay. These uploaded torrent files contain two announce URLs, one from The Pirate Bay and a moviex.info URL that always has the same passkey present, presumably the passkey for an anonymous user.
http://www.moviex.info:2710/...3c73mdqxj31q/announce
http://vip.tracker.thepiratebay.org/announce
To see a pirate bay tracker URL present in a torrent file is nothing out of the ordinary. So what’s special about the moviex.info URL being present in public torrents? Well, the message you get when trying to connect to the moviex.info tracker if you are not a member might give you a hint.
“Failure: access denied, leeching forbidden, you’re only allowed to seed”
Normally you would get something like: “Failure: unregistered torrent pass.” However, moviex.info allows non-members to seed files, while they are not allowed to download. This is a huge bonus for MovieX and its members. Currently, newtorrents.info provides 1000’s of downloads per day to torrent users and reportedly 50% of the available torrents on that site have the moviex.info tracker URL present, the actual percentage may even be be higher.
It is not unusual for private trackers to upload files to public sites. Most of the time this is done to advertise the tracker, so their community grows. However, we don’t see torrents like this very often, I’m not sure if they do this on purpose, but they are definitely leeching bandwidth from people who only use the public tracker. It’s a pretty nice system if you want your private tracker to gain external seeds along with faster download speeds for your members, It’s however also a very damaging method for any user who is not a member of MovieX.info as they will continually upload pieces of the torrent to users who will give very little if anything at all back.
To see exactly what this tracker configuration does and how it works watch the video below. The video shows two clear examples, one of a non seeded file and one of a seeded file using these rogue torrents, obviously for legal reasons we have renamed the torrents that I used for this demonstration (HQ download).
There is a way to prevent the leeching. If you download a torrent file from a public tracker check the tracker URL’s and remove the moviex.info announce URL if it is present. This will stop you seeding the file on that tracker and in turn not allow members of moviex.info to leech data from you. You could also try blocking their IP Address (206.53.62.206) in your IP filter if you are not a member of the MovieX community.
MovieX have taken the time to code this feature into their tracker and at the moment as far as we can tell they are the only private site exploiting this type of dirty hack to leech from external BitTorrent users. What moviex.info should do is configure their tracker not to allow external users without a passkey to connect to their tracker in any way, instead it would seem they have deliberately setup to leech as much data from the public BitTorrent community as possible and boost their own private community speeds. MovieX deny this is the case and claim these torrents to be no more than simple advertising for the site in an attempt to attract new members?
Update: MovieX is now blocked by PeerGuardian, a simple solution is to download and install the application.
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[quote comment="229355"]“private sites suck” obviously likes slow downloads and people capping their upload ratio to 1kbs.[/quote]
[quote comment="229355"]“private sites suck” obviously likes slow downloads and people capping their upload ratio to 1kbs.[/quote]
Good observation lol. That’s exactly what I do because if I make that speed higher, some hit and runner make take advantage of it before I have time to react.
Also, I really don’t like public private sites, because their speeds are slow and they have a lot of hit and runners. Lately, I’ve been trying to seed back what I took because I learned that from semi-private trackers. I prefer semi-private trackers because they are organised and have good enough speeds. Their only problem I see, are the VIP hit and runners. But I can’t help that.
Also, I think that Pirate bay sucks dick, because it’s so fucking unorganised, there are lot of fake torrents and little seeders. I almost never used TPB. fuck them
sorry I forgot to quote
How to ban the moviex tracker in utorrent:
http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#What_is_ipfilter.dat.3F
Create a TXT file with the IP address 206.53.62.64 on a line. Save as “ipfilter.dat” into your utorrent directory:
c:\docs and settings\username\application data\utorrent
[quote comment="229835"]
On the other hand, comments on other forums from the owners of MovieX seem to suggest that anyone who is not a member gets assigned a single member account that has now been restricted due to leeching. Essentially, we’re systematically stealing bandwidth from them, and they got sick of it. Until the balance is restored, the rest of the world can only upload.[/quote]
Then I guess all the bans and ipfilters they just obtained will come as a great relief to them.
Everyone wins!
Ernesto has confirmed
we now have a peer limit and everyone can now enjoy the benefits
thanks again to Ernesto for clarifying this up with us
enjoy
loder is doing good work adding scene torrents to the bit torrent community. well done to him and keep it up. and moviex is open to all.
[quote comment="229892"]Ernesto has confirmed we now have a peer limit and everyone can now enjoy the benefits thanks again to Ernesto for clarifying this up with us
enjoy[/quote]
You might sound more credible if you didn’t have other admins from your site posting elsewhere justifying things you deny are occurring here.
BTW…. the BT community has a peer limit for you too.
[quote comment="229676"]we not stealing bandwidth:
… just wait 2-3 day you see on torrentfreak if we stealing bandwidth or not[/quote]
Is that like “just wait till I stop flushing the toilet and you’ll see I have no drugs in this bathroom” ?
[quote comment="229903"]You might sound more credible if you didn’t have other admins from your site posting elsewhere justifying things you deny are occurring here.[/quote]
LMAO it wasn’t another moviex admin, it was actually you
[quote comment="229892"]
My response to p2pvines 2 questions
1. Why does the MovieX tracker message suddenly change to working when you become a seed and are not registered at MovieX, surley it should stay as a Failure if it’s mearly advertising.
Its only fair that you seed back of what you have downloaded isn’t it? , we aren’t even forcing the public members to seed, its out of courtesy that any member that downloads a torrent should at least seed back something. Since we released our content to the public and since the original post came from our uploader on our site its only fair that you seedback on that passkey.[/quote]
“Update: in response to our article, MovieX decided to allow guest on their tracker for now. So, everyone is allowed on their tracker, however, they plan to limit the number of guests in the near future.”
We at Bluetack have removed the block for their tracker for the time being, as the situation where non-members are only able to seed using their tracker has been remedied. I wanted people to be aware of this so people wanting to continue to block them would not be caught off guard. This change will be seen in the update of our lists later today.
I was assured that the part about limiting guests in the near future is not true. If this does occur and non-member seeds are once again being exploited for the benefit of their private site, they will be blocked again. I made this very clear to their representative I talked with this morning on IRC. I hope this does not become necessary, but we at Bluetack would like to hear about it if they return to this former practice.
[quote comment="229922"]“Update: in response to our article, MovieX decided to allow guest on their tracker for now. So, everyone is allowed on their tracker, however, they plan to limit the number of guests in the near future.”
We at Bluetack have removed the block for their tracker for the time being, as the situation where non-members are only able to seed using their tracker has been remedied. I wanted people to be aware of this so people wanting to continue to block them would not be caught off guard. This change will be seen in the update of our lists later today.
I was assured that the part about limiting guests in the near future is not true. If this does occur and non-member seeds are once again being exploited for the benefit of their private site, they will be blocked again. I made this very clear to their representative I talked with this morning on IRC. I hope this does not become necessary, but we at Bluetack would like to hear about it if they return to this former practice.[/quote]
Excellent. You guys are the true honor of p2p for keeping up with this. Please continue to follow closely.
kindest regards.
shit, loder and rama, what the fuck are you saying? It’s actually painful for the eyes and the mind to read your gibberish. Stop smoking whatever u’re and make some sense, cauz it seems to me that torrentfreak’s version makes sense cauz they can at least write correctly,..geez
@212
Says the guy who types like a 12 year old girl sending a text message…
idk my bff jill?
no seriously though 213, the better commercial is when grandma goes “idk my bff rose”… because at first you get it, then you do a double take if only for the fact that GRANDMA said it
For you lot who are supporting the MovieX cunts (they are cunts, they are leaching off of us lot and give us nothing in return) read the following.
“Failure: access denied, leeching forbidden, you’re only allowed to seed”
This is what I and all of the other plebs get when we try to DL a torrent that MovieX et al puts up on a public tracker. Yet you can DL off of us. That is to say the least, fucked up. If you want a private tracker, that is ok, but don’t fuck us lot in the process by stealing our bandwidth for your tracker. We get nothing but buggery from it in return. Well, we get slower than normal downloads, but that obviously isn’t desirable.
[quote comment="230165"]For you lot who are supporting the MovieX cunts (they are cunts, they are leaching off of us lot and give us nothing in return) read the following.
“Failure: access denied, leeching forbidden, you’re only allowed to seed”
This is what I and all of the other plebs get when we try to DL a torrent that MovieX et al puts up on a public tracker. Yet you can DL off of us. That is to say the least, fucked up. If you want a private tracker, that is ok, but don’t fuck us lot in the process by stealing our bandwidth for your tracker. We get nothing but buggery from it in return. Well, we get slower than normal downloads, but that obviously isn’t desirable.[/quote]
WalterMitty are you stupid blind if you think moviex stealing bandwidth dont download from tracker torrent very esay
Two days later and I’m still pissed at moviex. I can’t count how many torrents I downloaded over the last two years that took 20-30 hours cuz my download speed was like 10kb/s while uploading to a whole list of peers who I got nothing back from at 130kb/s. Does everyone realize that moviex has been doing this for at least two years? I remember seeing their name in the tracker list in 2005 when I was a noob at torrents. These guys gotta pay, somehow. Being a ‘.info’ site means they are most likely russian in origin or something, so lets hope someone who knows who runs stupid moviex finds out what these asshats have been doing and kicks their butts.
You are aware that there is an unspoken contract with these things. If I upload (and still need parts) that you provide the parts if you have them and if you are not helping someone else get the file. I.E., you seed the file. This MovieX bollocks violates this. They take but do not give (if we are untermensch who are not part of the group). As a result, the fuckers and their ilk are stealing my bandwidth for they will not seed to plebs like myself. Thus they can go and get fucked because of this. In other words I will not seed to them for they will not seed to us, but are quite happy at exploiting us.
Also, why the fuck would I want to join one of these private groups who don’t like playing with the slow kids?
Walter Mitty your command of the English language is appaling. This site can be read by young people.
Clean your language up.
Whats your ratio next to nothing I bet like must of the people who have commented on here.
And who is the royal us. All the leachers I see day in and day out.
I have a ratio over the last 5 years of in excess of 5. If everone did at least .5 Torrents would speed up dramaticaly.
Forget Moviex for a minute and look round and you will see what I mean.
People on here talk about a comunity what type of a comunity are you talking about it certanly Is not at all civilised if people have to stoop to the disgusting behaviour that is through this hole topic.
STOP!
HAMMER TIME!
No but really. This is what media defender wants us to do. They want us to argue amongst each other. We all brag about the hydra, but once a head drops the ball, we are quick to decapitate it. Calm down. No one stole your internets.
A HOUSE DIVIDED WILL NOT STAND.
[quote comment="230311"]Two days later and I’m still pissed at moviex. I can’t count how many torrents I downloaded over the last two years that took 20-30 hours cuz my download speed was like 10kb/s while uploading to a whole list of peers who I got nothing back from at 130kb/s. Does everyone realize that moviex has been doing this for at least two years? I remember seeing their name in the tracker list in 2005 when I was a noob at torrents. These guys gotta pay, somehow. Being a ‘.info’ site means they are most likely russian in origin or something, so lets hope someone who knows who runs stupid moviex finds out what these asshats have been doing and kicks their butts.[/quote]
http://leader.ru/secure/whoiz.html?q=www.moviex.info&x=0&y=0
Lol i see nothing irritating on such a behaviour. Even RS puts limit on dl for not regged users while you can upload as much as you want..
At least appreciate job of ppl who uploaded torrents (i seriuosly doubt that any of you complaining ever did) If person uploading torrent consieder it OK then all who are DL it should as well or just F.. off and find another source..
[quote comment="230555"]Lol i see nothing irritating on such a behaviour. Even RS puts limit on dl for not regged users while you can upload as much as you want..
At least appreciate job of ppl who uploaded torrents (i seriuosly doubt that any of you complaining ever did) If person uploading torrent consieder it OK then all who are DL it should as well or just F.. off and find another source..[/quote]
LOL. of course a n00b won’t understand. You obviously have NO CLUE what you are speaking of.
Thanks for the morning laugh! Now maybe go perform even the slightest bit of research to begin to understand this matter.
psssst…lol…n00bs
lmao, and thanks for that.
I am so shamefully sorry for you
all.
What are you talking about suposition no proof one accuses the outher what are you nursery school childeren. As for the owner or waht ever you want to call him of this site. Do some research into his behavior before you leachers carry on. I do not and will not except under any circumstaces bad use of any communication protocol. Yes and that includes foul and unpleasant languge because these leachers are just that. Take your foul language ans supositions to where they belong in the gutter.
Movie X have they done anything wrong. Yes they provide links to copyright material. No can get that any where. Leachers people wanting to make a fast buck (Ernesto) Prime suspect. Me I dont care can do what I want. Stop This and in future if you have a complaint speak to the admin of the site.
Enjoy what you have and try to help the comunity peer gardian you are a discrace. Ban something an IP address without any grounds what a perthetic way to behave.
Me as I said dont realy care can afford the software and give freely because I got fed up with the monoplies greed.
I will close now with the only appt and correct statement
Shut Your Festering Gobs You Tits You Vacuiose Melodiuse Perverts. Sat on your big fat spotty behinds picking blackheads. We no the Type.
[quote comment="228199"]A novel idea. And yet another reason not to use public trackers..[/quote]
then I’ll laugh my ass off when the cops bust you for piracy smart cookie now aren’t you?
haha
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