THe idea of democracy is so beyond there understanding just like understanting what the customer wants.

Its funny they call out pirate parties when them and there sicking
use of lobbyiest to bend lawls so they can extort people for money well not giving it to the artists they claim to fight.
I dont see your noble BS highground there Dean D-Bag

“They ["the people"] aren’t able to see the value and hard work that goes into making a movie. It’s a real investment. It requires not only vision and great storytelling, but real capital investment. It costs a little over $100 million to make and market a movie.”

so he’s saying that “the people” aren’t able to see something that is in fact quite well known. what’s really going on here is that people are no longer worshiping commodities and images as sacred, and that’s bad news for any cartel that depends on the image.

“I’m also not of the view that we have a monopoly on perfection.”

freudian slip? although they’re more of an oligopoly than a monopoly, but why split hairs?

he goes on specifically to say that the MPAA’s major strategy has been “education and deterrents” and to “change behavior”

i.e., re-educate us on the sacredness of the image

“We’re in the truly nascent stages of the Internet as a multimedia delivery mechanism.”

it’s not a communication network, it’s a content delivery mechanism. this is truly outrageous, that people see the Internet in this way.

“For us, BitTorrent holds real promise because our stuff is really large.”

in other words, “we’d love to charge you for our content delivery, while you use your bandwidth to do it for us.”

“There’s nothing philosophically principled about it. They [The Pirate Bay] steal copyright content and accept advertising dollars based on taking other people’s work. There’s nothing noble about it.”

actually, our swedish comrades are quite engaged with philosophical theory. i just wish they’d do more work in english so the international community could engage them in a conversation.

“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.” ~ Mahatma Gandhi

Es beginnt!
Die frage ist jetzt natürlich, in welchem zustand befinden wir uns? Ist das noch “Verspotten” oder schon “B…

Nor does paying off democratic politicians.

[quote comment="164039"]The simple fact is TPB and many sites like it operate solely to facilitate copyright infringement and they make a tidy sum of ad revenue in the process.[/quote]

Define “tidy sum”? I bet the MPAA makes more prosecuting scared college students and disabled single mothers (as well as deposing said disabled mothers’ grade-school children without their parents’ knowledge or consent).

[quote comment="164039"]If you can’t understand why the industry has grievances with that kind of operation, you’re just being a naive twat that thinks everybody making music and movies is a multi-millionaire celebrity or exec.[/quote]

And you’re a naive twat if you think these artists are always the ones making money from it… the only ones who profit are the multimillionaire celebrities and execs… and the celebrities only keep their status for so long as the exec decides they’re worth it. Go ahead, see how many musicians are still well-off two years after leaving the industry.

[quote comment="164039"]Likewise, the industry had failed completely at adapting to the new market so it’s no surprise that so many people choose to pirate.[/quote]

Meh. I think that even if the industry had adapted, most people who pirate wouldn’t want to pay execs for the blood, sweat, tears and sometimes deaths of musicians who simply want to make it big. It’s a complete difference in modes of thought: Industrial-age controls versus Information-age freedoms. These moguls and their companies are relics of the past, and their activities only nail shut their own coffins. Consumers hold the power, not the companies.

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File sharing has become a joke anyway, there’s nothing communal or fun about it anymore. Sites just take scene releases and pass them around. There’s only a select few communities that do their own ripping these days, and what the cater to is way off the anti-piracy radar.[/quote]

There doesn’t need to be any “community” who does its own ripping… and in fact there are many people who are trying to build communities on the web, but there are also people who are actively seeking to disrupt these communities, as well as jerkwads who just want the goods and don’t want to talk to anyone… the Pirate Party was a direct outgrowth of these communities, because of this kind of interference, but with their entry into politics, it looks like they got an excellent education about the way things really are. Pity the MAFIAA (et al.) are so clueless as to think that they’re going to win a battle against the social tide of 1% of the planet’s population (to quote their figures… which are inflated to fit their whim, since nobody seems able to prove directly that anything has even happened… sources of information and data collection methods have never been cited, apparently).

Calling a political party and it’s members “thieves” is quite harsh…

Doesn’t he understand that copyright was originally granted by the public to benefit the public?

If the majority of a country decides to dismantle copyright it will go away!

And yes, it is *very* philosophical to discuss the negative consequences of copyright in a modern society.

File sharing has become a joke anyway, there’s nothing communal or fun about it anymore. Sites just take scene releases and pass them around. There’s only a select few communities that do their own ripping these days, and what the cater to is way off the anti-piracy radar.

I hope by your estimation you are only using 1/2 million for easy maths, The real figure would be a hell of alot more then .5million

It is true they provide artists with money IF the artist is member. In Belgium they collect your royalties and you get the money if you become a member. If you don’t they keep collecting untill you do become a member. That means a lot of money from international artists isn’t being collected. I don’t know what they do with that money.

There are now 2 Belgian componists whome won a ruling saying they are the original componists of “you are not alone” the hit song from Jackson.

Good! … not really…?

In spite of being a member of Belgian royalty federation they didn’t get royalties for 12 years. They had to file the case themselves and now they only get royalties back from the belgian sales.

so…
1. they don’t defend their customers they need to do it themselves.
2. they don’t have the power to request international funds.
3. apparantly there are some differences between copyright legislations in different countries.

The burden of Marketing is amongst us.

If you estimate 1/2 a million americans DLing pirated material. Some of which may already own a copy of the material in question, but it is damaged. and others that would never buy it, but may rent it.

I think the estimated sales gains from the Extinction of piracy wouldn’t be close to their figures.

I think they estimate the avg person to buy 4 dvd’s a year at least. 4 @ $20 =$80*.5 million people = +$40 million in sales.

now as i pointed out, some people dont buy DVD’s, since they arnt as reliable ( kids + dvd = money in the trash).

so lets cut that figure to a third
$40 million * 1/3 = ~$13.3 Million

now if you see the court costs, and employment costs of the staff in anti piracy divisions + the revenue loss of the torrent sites, and other P2P…. it comes out to more then 13.3 million in annual revenue.

thus i see them as reducing total profit for themselves, and other parties involved.

They need to stop worrying about piracy of a few hundred thousand people and keep their profit invested in themselves… not lawyers, and lobbying for unconstitional bullshit.

MPAA can kiss my posterior, and lick my balls.