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By: M

Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:39:34 +0000

It is rather ironic that, in a case that is about the misuse of intelectual property that evidence comes from, the misuse of intelectual property. The MPAA are trying to bring a broarder net around the whole pirating network so it encompasses host providers and ISP’s by stating that they all knowingly let a crime happen. Using a companies trade secrets is as far as I know a crime. How does buying these trade secrets from someone committing a crime not have at least an equal link between them and the crime as an ISP and the crime of pirating.

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By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:19 +0000

@25
It’s Thomas Anderson, not Robert…would be funny tho

By: Frank

Frank — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:30:37 +0000

Wow! So a third-party paying $15,000 to someone inside a compagny (or whatever TorrentSpy was) to provide personnal infos from the database isn’t illegal!? What the hell? That call that spying. They probably had to deal with a stupid judge.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:59:17 +0000

“It worries me that people can get away with this crap.”

me to.

But it should worry the MPAA even more. No justice no peace specially when a gun is a lot shiper than a lawer.

By: lol

lol — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:49:55 +0000

comes back to hunt?

By: J.L.Lee

J.L.Lee — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:46:12 +0000

Lawyers are placed in this world by God to be killed.

By: Turbis

Turbis — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:45:45 +0000

I hope they keep him and don’t fire him, íf he gets replaced they may get more effective.

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[...] MPAA’s Hacking Past Comes Back to Hunt The MPAA isn’t known for wasting opportunities to obtain information about BitTorrent sites and their users. In 2005 the MPAA paid around $15,000 to a hacker who obtained emails from TorrentSpy and The Pirate Bay. The case was heard in court and won by the MPAA, but this decision will soon be appealed. [...]

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By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:23:44 +0000

@4 – Go Pirates!

Who the hell says ‘comes back to hunt’. How can a ‘hacking past’ hunt? Do a Google phrase search and this article is the top result as nobody freaking says it. Bloody Europeans and their broken English. ;P

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:38:07 +0000

Just one correction > *an “hacker”

By: laama

laama — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:33:56 +0000

Those greedy MPAA & RIAA mobsters must stop before they going too far.

By: UraPhake

UraPhake — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:45:44 +0000

If it was illegal in the case of the HP spying scandal, then it should also be illegal for the MPAA doing essentially the same thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_HP_spying_scandal

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:21:54 +0000

I wasnt going to say anything because i forgot the first name… all i remember is when he says MR. Anderson.

By: Hahn

Hahn — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:21:39 +0000

@Average Dave:

Its actually Thomas Anderson, but yeah I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that haha.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:57:09 +0000

What sentence did the guy who hacked Palin’s email get? And how long did it take to convict him?

By: PirateDave

PirateDave — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:42:34 +0000

I have no problem with the MPAA doing illegal things–as long as we’re all equal.

However, once in court, the judges seem not to notice any illegalities from the anti-pirates.

I wonder why that is? ;)

By: Hacker/pirates of the world UNITE

Hacker/pirates of the world UNITE — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:30:09 +0000

ya mean like how in 2002 they took a root kit off a hacker and without knowledge turned it into your sony root kit?

By: Use Your Brain?

Use Your Brain? — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:24:40 +0000

Hey Stormblade?

Go blow a goat, u spamming jackass!

By: Wnerd

Wnerd — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:52:16 +0000

To the author of this post; please fix the title; it can be misleading (From what I understood before I read this post was that this title meant that MPAA’s paying hackers again.)

By: Average Dave

Average Dave — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:19:48 +0000

Isn’t “Robert Anderson” Neo’s real name in The Matrix? Seems somewhat fitting that the guy’s a “hacker”

By: P2P Worshiper

P2P Worshiper — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:56:30 +0000

Yes, you both have right in this what you writs, but you both have a flaw in your explanation.

Because here was not made any Material transaction of stolen goods.

article clip:
“”The MPAA isn’t known for wasting opportunities to obtain information about BitTorrent sites and their users.”"

The KEY word is OBTAIN INFORMATION about BT sites and USERS.

Okay let’s try to paint this on a wall so everybody can understand this.

A person (the hacker) steals some mail whit some Info in it over a long time.
After he got 34 pages written down FROM THIS STOLEN’S MAILS (article clip: “”The 34 pages of information he gathered”") of some kind Names and User Data that MPAA want, then he sell’s this 34 pages of information ABOUT & FROM this mail to the MPAA, but he did NOT SELL the mails he stole.

And NOW please tell me, what is ILLIGAL ABOUT THIS kind of information he SOLD to the MPAA.

And if somebody think that this kind of information is illegal, so just think about this, what every country is doing every day to catch us P2P users.

They are spying on your bittorrent connection and they are gathering information on you, to give/sell the information to MPAA or others so they can SUE you in the curt.

So PLEACE TELL ME where is the Illegal difference.

By: Stormblade

Stormblade — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:44:46 +0000

Look at this!!!
It´s unbelivable!!!:D

http://www.youtupe-com-watch-2332-fsdkjfc-1223-11ds.inserat.in

By: Stormblade

Stormblade — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:42:29 +0000

Das müsst ihr euch unbedingt angucken!!!
Es ist wirklich abgefahren!!!:D

http://www.youtupe-com-watch-2332-fsdkjfc-1223-11ds.inserat.in

By: PirateDave

PirateDave — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:07:52 +0000

Actually, the expression is: It is illegal to ‘receive’ stolen goods.

Which means you don’t even have to buy them to be guilty.

By: fool

fool — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:59:29 +0000

@19 it is illegal to buy stolen goods, and it they would have to prove that they did not hire the hacker.

By: P2P Worshiper

P2P Worshiper — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:28:23 +0000

People, people please read the article 2 before you make some comments on it.

The MPAA (aka.Fukers) did nothing illegal here, and therefore the court can’t judge them for this what Torrentspy are accusing them for.

Nr.1 The Hacker was an former friend of Torrentspy owner. “R. Anderson, a former associate of TorrentSpy owner Justin Bunnel,”
So Technical speaking, he could have free access to the Mail server, without to have hacking in to it. “he configured the TorrentSpy mail server to copy and forward all of the site’s email to his own Gmail account.”

Nr.2 The Hacker SOLD his information to the MPAA, they DID NOT PAY HIM for doing this hack, he SOLD IT TO THEM, there is a HUGE difference between this two actions. “The 34 pages of information he gathered was then sold to the MPAA for $15,000.”

So in my eyes here, Torrentspy have NO evidence and 100% ground info that MPAA have something to do whit this.
The only think Torrentspy have, is that mails have been copy’t and sold to MPAA (aka.goat Fuxxes).

So what Torrentspy could do, is to get an confession fron the hacker in the court, that MPAA has offer’t him this $15’000, and commit him to hack the mail server and get this mails for the MPAA.
And Torrentspy NEED to work whit The Piratebay to get more materials for the case, (who was trying to hack The Piratebay to in this case)

This is the only chance that torrentspy have to win this case in my opinion.

By: mu57i11

mu57i11 — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:29:21 +0000

Nothing I didn’t already kno?
lol @14.

By: law is antichrist

law is antichrist — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:53:38 +0000

well this sounds like usa gov/big business politics as long as it works in their favor its legal… they have broke no laws… if you fell other wise too bad so sad for getting in their way… prove the MPAA had any wrong doing all these judges on the lower level are all bought and paid for… none of them think for themselves they are always told how they will rule on a court hearing and none of them at a local court want to give constitutional rulings…which is what i thought they where supposed to do that is the oath they take to uphold the constitution… they are all like George w Bush and believe that its just a piece of paper…

so in oder for anything to be done they will need cash and lots of if… like $150k min to $300k to get a chance at having a real judge rule on it

By: john

john — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:04:18 +0000

w a t c h c e l e b r i t y . c o m

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MPAA’s Hacking Past Comes Back to Hunt | News Inventory — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:36:11 +0000

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:14:57 +0000

sorry, direct link here, stupid reddit

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Classified_US%2C_Japan_and_EU_ACTA_trade_agreement_drafts%2C_2009

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:14:01 +0000

ACTA draft leaked on to wikileaks:

http://www.inquisitr.com/21747/secret-acta-international-copyright-treaty-leaked-to-wikileaks/

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:36:16 +0000

I can imagine the next news item… “News headline misspelling causes uproar, MPAA to blame”

By: ...

... — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:58:58 +0000

“The 34 pages of information he gathered was then sold to the MPAA for $15,000. TorrentSpy’s owner later sued the MPAA, arguing that they had spied on him illegally, but this case was lost.”

I still can’t believe that torrent spy lost that case… talk about a messed up legal system where money buys justice and freedom :/

By: Use Your Brain?

Use Your Brain? — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:39:58 +0000

@3 JTK:

Damn nice link! ROTFL! Love that track!!

By: DTS

DTS — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:01:37 +0000

They’ll essentially be giving the green light to the emails retrieved from MediaDefender. If so, we might expect all the cases where MediaDefender is still named/involved to fall to pieces with the information gleaned from that operation.

By: Bryan Collins

Bryan Collins — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:59:51 +0000

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By: #YLS#

#YLS# — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:39:59 +0000

I think the MPAA believes it’s a one man operation, if one man hacks, sure there’s a chance of getting away with it.

The MPAA being basically a business means on no terms should it be using stolen evidence as evidence, therfore I’d be supprised if they got away with it. Stranger things have happened though.

By: Paul

Paul — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:08:52 +0000

Cool. ok, so it’s legal to hack now? Thanks MPAA, i’m hacking some sites now.

By: Go Pirates!

Go Pirates! — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:57:04 +0000

lol @ number 4 failure.
and rofl @ mpaa

By: Hacker/pirates of the world UNITE

Hacker/pirates of the world UNITE — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:24:00 +0000

so former guy who didnt hack ,had password
and did what the most gay thing ever

By: Dave

Dave — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:09:53 +0000

The phrase is ‘Comes Back to Haunt Them’.

You’ve said ‘hunt’ instead.

By: JTK

JTK — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:24:21 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnLB8wysMbY ’nuff said in that song.

By: Flomp

Flomp — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:21:13 +0000

they arent planning to do it m8 it was just an overblown proposal. deep packet inspection would be hugely expensive, exaustitive and beyond the realms of practical use. its just more scare tactics to make everyone stop pirating. :)

By: Michael Douglas

Michael Douglas — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:06:15 +0000

It worries me that people can get away with this crap.

Then again, I’m coming from the country where Deep packet Inspection is not only legal, the government are planning on doing it to every citizen (UK) so I can;t really talk -__-