Comments on: Music Biz Hopes To End Piracy By Tempting ISPs With Millions

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[...] Music Biz Hopes To End Piracy By Tempting ISPs With Millions A new study commissioned on behalf of Universal Music reports that if ISPs got involved in the digital music market, they could make millions in the years to come. But one can’t help wondering that this is less about the music biz helping ISPs to make more profit, but more about giving them an incentive to do something about piracy. [...]

By: pompous twit alert

pompous twit alert — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:34:14 +0000

@reasoned mind

you are so ridiculous I cant even respond. A store keeper paying for theft prevention and an ISP having to pay for this bullshit is two entirely different things. Only if your bosses can pay enough flack politicians enough to make them will this happen. And it wont. The networks should be neutral. You would have us be China.

By: Bart Simpson

Bart Simpson — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:07:13 +0000

In the immortal words of Comic Book Guy, “Worst idea ever!”

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renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll - Links of the day — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:54:45 +0000

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By: Jay

Jay — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:39:18 +0000

into psytrance, something I suspect the music companies not deal in very much, mostly independent labels

to tempt me, needs to be stuff that is DRM free and can use on my mp3 player, that is not an apple :)

By: digi

digi — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:42:08 +0000

“If the RIAA or MPAA owned – literally – all the major ISPs, they could affect the piracy landscape quicker than ever before. A simple rewrite or tweaking of subscriber’s Terms of Service would ensure that anyone proven to be a pirate could be ejected from the Internet in an instant, no laws needed. While this is unfeasible right now, there are easier ways of encouraging the same, like business partnerships and promises of profit.”

Please check the T&Cs of all the big UK ISPs and you will find that your service can be terminated for copyright infringement, and all sorts of other things.

However, the terms and condition say copyright infringement, not “suspected copyright infringement” – or “a notification from a rights holder who bought the evidence from some doggy outfit in Switzerland”.

The termination of service will not hold up in court on the basis of suspected copyright infringement.

The Virgin Music deal is likely to include a “bi-lateral” business deal to the effect that customers of the music service face technical measures on the basis of suspected copyright infringement – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8101050.stm . plus there is Detica…

Vivendi, which owns Universal, also owns a French ISP – Neuf Cegetel.

Both Sky, remember who owns them, and Virgin Media are media companies that happen to also be ISPs.

By: me

me — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:03:20 +0000

#66 Paul Harris: “firstly, there’s no way that the music industry could afford to ‘buy out’ the ISPs. The small ones mayeb, at a push, but you guys really have over estimated the money in music!”

Well, with the trillions of dollars they got out of AllOfMp3 and so called “stealing” music “pirates”, they could span the globe with many layers of single-mode fiber glass cables. Oh, wait, those were just fantasy dollars that they couldn’t collect. ;-)

But on a more serious note: what do you think do a couple of transcontinental cables cost? What’s the cost of buying out and operating something like Level-3 or similar Tier-1 networks?

Compared to the loads of cash RIAA and MPAA affiliates make out of brainwashed relatively well-off young buyers, and from the revenues of their new business model (widespread carpet-bombing-style litigation), they could very well team up and buy a big network provider… or two, or three, and then it’s “bye-bye free Internet.” and “welcome back, 1:N cable-style distribution network.”

Granted, ISPs are small change, compared to backbone providers…

By: SteveO

SteveO — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:19:35 +0000

And by the way people, the mpaa/riaa whatever you call it, is NOT a failing industry, in fact its growing massivley. Everyone keeps saying that as if your starting to believe thier lies.

By: SteveO

SteveO — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:06:37 +0000

Well both the RIAA and ISPs have broken the RULES as it is. Digital information is SUPPOSED to be cheaper and cheaper and cheaper as technology improves. However these two companies have done the OPPOSITE.Same with cell phones companies too.The towers are built, quit raising the damn prices! Its DIGITAL information guys, its INTENTION was to LOWER costs.Now all thats left is for the NEW superpowers to unite and sock it to the consumers. Screw all of them, and shame on them!