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	<title>Comments on: Music Biz Wants To Swap ISP Disconnections For Cash Fines</title>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>/music-biz-wants-to-swap-isp-disconnections-for-cash-fines-130128/#comment-1084699</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2013 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is getting real when there&#039;s talk of killing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting real when there&#8217;s talk of killing.</p>
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		<title>By: koe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you dont pay fines in France, the court can just take it out of your bank account (+the late fee), you dont f@ck with the authorities easily here... Which makes this latest anti-piracy system even nastier than any other country I can think of...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you dont pay fines in France, the court can just take it out of your bank account (+the late fee), you dont f@ck with the authorities easily here&#8230; Which makes this latest anti-piracy system even nastier than any other country I can think of&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: koe</title>
		<link>/music-biz-wants-to-swap-isp-disconnections-for-cash-fines-130128/#comment-1047812</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, a large part of the French system is based upon Napoleonic law, whereby the onus is on you to prove your innocence, not the other way round. 

For example, a private company, can sue an individual through the court for non payment of debt / fines etc, the court then has the authority to access your bank account to remove the funds (even if you are not aware of the proceedings - i.e. the private company filed it through an address you no longer live at- I had 800 Euro taken from my account last year and the bank couldnt even tell me who or why- just the name of the court)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a large part of the French system is based upon Napoleonic law, whereby the onus is on you to prove your innocence, not the other way round. </p>
<p>For example, a private company, can sue an individual through the court for non payment of debt / fines etc, the court then has the authority to access your bank account to remove the funds (even if you are not aware of the proceedings &#8211; i.e. the private company filed it through an address you no longer live at- I had 800 Euro taken from my account last year and the bank couldnt even tell me who or why- just the name of the court)</p>
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		<title>By: koe</title>
		<link>/music-biz-wants-to-swap-isp-disconnections-for-cash-fines-130128/#comment-1047808</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in France, and the answer is more and more households switch to vpn and newsgroups, sadly nothing as radical as you suggest will happen...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in France, and the answer is more and more households switch to vpn and newsgroups, sadly nothing as radical as you suggest will happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Piracy Lab &#124; Music Biz Wants To Swap ISP Disconnections For Cash Fines</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Piracy Lab &#124; Music Biz Wants To Swap ISP Disconnections For Cash Fines]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] What the approaches have in common is that they&#8217;ve all largely failed to achieve the end goal. Perhaps realizing this, in more recent times rightsholders have been considering what results could be achieved through a more &#8220;educational&#8221; approach. This way of thinking has developed into various &#8220;strike&#8221; regimes, through which consumers are warned they&#8217;re being monitored in the hope that they take a different course Source: Torrentfreak Anti-piracy Gangs RSS Feed [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What the approaches have in common is that they&#8217;ve all largely failed to achieve the end goal. Perhaps realizing this, in more recent times rightsholders have been considering what results could be achieved through a more &#8220;educational&#8221; approach. This way of thinking has developed into various &#8220;strike&#8221; regimes, through which consumers are warned they&#8217;re being monitored in the hope that they take a different course Source: Torrentfreak Anti-piracy Gangs RSS Feed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Poole</title>
		<link>/music-biz-wants-to-swap-isp-disconnections-for-cash-fines-130128/#comment-1028699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene Poole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It could only happen in France. Doesn&#039;t France have a much stricter justice system than anywhere else in the world, with the exception of the unofficial american justice system of &quot;disappearing them in the middle of the night to Guantanamo Bay without a trial until they feel like doing something else&quot;?

I mean, as far as actual justice systems go in the civilized world, I&#039;ve heard France has one of the strictest. If so, this fits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could only happen in France. Doesn&#8217;t France have a much stricter justice system than anywhere else in the world, with the exception of the unofficial american justice system of &#8220;disappearing them in the middle of the night to Guantanamo Bay without a trial until they feel like doing something else&#8221;?</p>
<p>I mean, as far as actual justice systems go in the civilized world, I&#8217;ve heard France has one of the strictest. If so, this fits.</p>
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		<title>By: RLM News Show Blog - 2013-01-29 &#124; Real Liberty Media</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RLM News Show Blog - 2013-01-29 &#124; Real Liberty Media]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andrew Lee</title>
		<link>/music-biz-wants-to-swap-isp-disconnections-for-cash-fines-130128/#comment-1028566</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew this was going to lead to mass extortion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew this was going to lead to mass extortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judging from history, Bobmail and Anon will work hard to forget about it, and mistake the next time an MPAA executive farts as the signal for the cavalry to charge.


Which they will obediently do, dragging a limping threadbare long-since-disproven argument along to cast at the windmill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judging from history, Bobmail and Anon will work hard to forget about it, and mistake the next time an MPAA executive farts as the signal for the cavalry to charge.</p>
<p>Which they will obediently do, dragging a limping threadbare long-since-disproven argument along to cast at the windmill.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary_Devil_Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It IS hilarious.


Also true. You wouldn&#039;t believe the utter contempt the average frenchman has for anybody in &quot;authority&quot;.


It&#039;s enough to make me wonder if their traditional lack of military success can&#039;t be blamed on the bugler blowing attack and the troops all saying &quot;screw you lot, I&#039;m going home&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It IS hilarious.</p>
<p>Also true. You wouldn&#8217;t believe the utter contempt the average frenchman has for anybody in &#8220;authority&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s enough to make me wonder if their traditional lack of military success can&#8217;t be blamed on the bugler blowing attack and the troops all saying &#8220;screw you lot, I&#8217;m going home&#8221;.</p>
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