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		<title>By: robohara.com » Music and MTV and YouTube and Stuff</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] So if kids aren&#8217;t watching music videos, where are they hearing new music? In restaurants, bars, and clubs? Wrong. About five years ago, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) and Broadcast Music International (BMI) began visiting restaurants and threatening to sue them for playing the radio without paying for a performance license. This was going on in 2007, and there are no signs of them stopping. This year, over 50 bars have been sued by BMI for performing live music. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So if kids aren&#8217;t watching music videos, where are they hearing new music? In restaurants, bars, and clubs? Wrong. About five years ago, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) and Broadcast Music International (BMI) began visiting restaurants and threatening to sue them for playing the radio without paying for a performance license. This was going on in 2007, and there are no signs of them stopping. This year, over 50 bars have been sued by BMI for performing live music. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tune-up, pay-up &#8211; Copyfraud and Other Abuses of Intellectual Property Law by Jason Mazzone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tune-up, pay-up &#8211; Copyfraud and Other Abuses of Intellectual Property Law by Jason Mazzone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8220;Even though we only played original music, she said we should buy the license anyway. Apparen... [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Even though we only played original music, she said we should buy the license anyway. Apparen&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jamarson</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, here in Brazil they do the same thing, actually we have a larga gov. organization that does that. the ECAD. It&#039;s bassically a central office that gets all these royalties and is supposed to give them to the artist. 

Of course that never happens. And I still have to pay a monthly fee so i can keep my radio on. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, here in Brazil they do the same thing, actually we have a larga gov. organization that does that. the ECAD. It&#8217;s bassically a central office that gets all these royalties and is supposed to give them to the artist. </p>
<p>Of course that never happens. And I still have to pay a monthly fee so i can keep my radio on. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tosser:

&quot;if they had reasonable cause (They could hear it from a public highway) to believe you were playing music they controlled the rights to..&quot;

Three things:

1. Muffler corridor from the entrance in (required at many places to keep noise pollution down).

2. Have you been on a &quot;public highway&quot;? Most of such highways are so polluted by traffic noise that you cant even hear yourself.

3. What is reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. 

ps. btw what is up with not being able to reply to replies? Some sort of desgin flaw of Disqus?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tosser:</p>
<p>&#8220;if they had reasonable cause (They could hear it from a public highway) to believe you were playing music they controlled the rights to..&#8221;</p>
<p>Three things:</p>
<p>1. Muffler corridor from the entrance in (required at many places to keep noise pollution down).</p>
<p>2. Have you been on a &#8220;public highway&#8221;? Most of such highways are so polluted by traffic noise that you cant even hear yourself.</p>
<p>3. What is reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. </p>
<p>ps. btw what is up with not being able to reply to replies? Some sort of desgin flaw of Disqus?</p>
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		<title>By: Music and Web Stuff Last Week 10/15/11 » Dead Rage - Meez Generated, Live Musician Powered Heavy Metal Band</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and Web Stuff Last Week 10/15/11  Network or Die   Oct 152011    Music Copyright Police Ruin Artists’ Gigs (and Coconut Curry) I wish I had the answer! A venue in which live music is the main draw is one thing, but a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and Web Stuff Last Week 10/15/11  Network or Die   Oct 152011    Music Copyright Police Ruin Artists’ Gigs (and Coconut Curry) I wish I had the answer! A venue in which live music is the main draw is one thing, but a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Music and Web Stuff Last Week 10/15/11 &#124; Network or Die</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Music and Web Stuff Last Week 10/15/11 &#124; Network or Die]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Music Copyright Police Ruin Artists’ Gigs (and Coconut Curry) I wish I had the answer! A venue in which live music is the main draw is one thing, but a restaurant serving bands as a side dish? Maybe their should be some kind of tier system? I&#8217;m all for &#8220;Pay to Play&#8221; clubs being charged double, though! [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Music Copyright Police Ruin Artists’ Gigs (and Coconut Curry) I wish I had the answer! A venue in which live music is the main draw is one thing, but a restaurant serving bands as a side dish? Maybe their should be some kind of tier system? I&#8217;m all for &#8220;Pay to Play&#8221; clubs being charged double, though! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ven</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@An Unwashed Heathen

I&#039;m in agreement with DoN0tReply: the declaration you posted and linked to is merely a list of generalized complaints about large corporations that dominate most facets of industry.

So great, they hate big business. The sad reality is that big business supports most of the things we/you/them take for granted: food variety, internet infrastructure, reasonable prices on everything....

If you take a look at the standard of living from 200 years ago, and realize that the long list of things we have now that they would have considered luxuries are the direct result of big business lowering prices enough for the population at large to afford them.

So if you/they/whoever wants to break the cycle, instead of sitting on Wall Street (where I can guarantee nobody cares), they need to go out and convince the public at large to end their addictions to cheap brand-name beer, fast food, clothing, electronics, cigarettes, utilities, toiletries, and everything else that isn&#039;t sold with a cardboard sign.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@An Unwashed Heathen</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in agreement with DoN0tReply: the declaration you posted and linked to is merely a list of generalized complaints about large corporations that dominate most facets of industry.</p>
<p>So great, they hate big business. The sad reality is that big business supports most of the things we/you/them take for granted: food variety, internet infrastructure, reasonable prices on everything&#8230;.</p>
<p>If you take a look at the standard of living from 200 years ago, and realize that the long list of things we have now that they would have considered luxuries are the direct result of big business lowering prices enough for the population at large to afford them.</p>
<p>So if you/they/whoever wants to break the cycle, instead of sitting on Wall Street (where I can guarantee nobody cares), they need to go out and convince the public at large to end their addictions to cheap brand-name beer, fast food, clothing, electronics, cigarettes, utilities, toiletries, and everything else that isn&#8217;t sold with a cardboard sign.</p>
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		<title>By: An Unwashed Heathen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[An Unwashed Heathen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@DoN0tReply,

&quot;It&#039;s more of a disorganized mass mob demonstration atm. and I&#039;m struggling to put heads and tails as to what demands they have besides &quot;change&quot; (to what exactly? How will they ensure it is better than what you have now and have the checks and balances needed to prevent the atrocities that lead you all to this protest?).&quot;

Yeah, I get you. You&#039;re confused.

Maybe this can enlighten you a little.
link: http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/

{ahem}

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
Posted on September 30, 2011 by NYCGA
This document was accepted by the NYC General Assembly on september 29, 2011


As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

To the people of the world,

We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard!

*These grievances are not all-inclusive.

Remember, you too are the 99%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DoN0tReply,</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s more of a disorganized mass mob demonstration atm. and I&#8217;m struggling to put heads and tails as to what demands they have besides &#8220;change&#8221; (to what exactly? How will they ensure it is better than what you have now and have the checks and balances needed to prevent the atrocities that lead you all to this protest?).&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I get you. You&#8217;re confused.</p>
<p>Maybe this can enlighten you a little.<br />
link: <a href="http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/" rel="nofollow">http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/</a></p>
<p>{ahem}</p>
<p>Declaration of the Occupation of New York City<br />
Posted on September 30, 2011 by NYCGA<br />
This document was accepted by the NYC General Assembly on september 29, 2011</p>
<p>As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.</p>
<p>As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.</p>
<p>They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.<br />
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.<br />
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.<br />
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.<br />
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.<br />
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.<br />
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.<br />
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.<br />
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.<br />
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.<br />
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.<br />
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.<br />
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.<br />
They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.<br />
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.<br />
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.<br />
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.<br />
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.<br />
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.<br />
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.<br />
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *</p>
<p>To the people of the world,</p>
<p>We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.</p>
<p>Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.</p>
<p>To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.</p>
<p>Join us and make your voices heard!</p>
<p>*These grievances are not all-inclusive.</p>
<p>Remember, you too are the 99%.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>/music-copyright-police-ruin-artists-gigs-and-coconut-curry-111008/#comment-840277</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Covers are not Fair Use AT ALL. On the other hand...

&quot;Apparently, even if the band members use something as minor as a Led Zeppelin riff while they tune-up their instruments – that’s a violation.&quot;

This is absolutely untrue, and the guy should have had the balls to say, &quot;Piss off.&quot; How you can be a business owner and can&#039;t be bothered to spend 5 minutes researching basic copyright law is a mystery to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Covers are not Fair Use AT ALL. On the other hand&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Apparently, even if the band members use something as minor as a Led Zeppelin riff while they tune-up their instruments – that’s a violation.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is absolutely untrue, and the guy should have had the balls to say, &#8220;Piss off.&#8221; How you can be a business owner and can&#8217;t be bothered to spend 5 minutes researching basic copyright law is a mystery to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanity_Vocal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sanity_Vocal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a old style mafia shakedown. Pay Protection (license) so future &#039;accidents&#039; don&#039;t happen.

Does the Ricco statues apply here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a old style mafia shakedown. Pay Protection (license) so future &#8216;accidents&#8217; don&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Does the Ricco statues apply here?</p>
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